MisterrSingh

It's akin to asking which political party someone votes for or belongs to. It's simply not done in polite conversation with people you barely know. It's something my dad told me when I was like 7 or thereabouts, lol. Politics and religion: topics about which I'd think twice before discussing with friends or family. Random people I met recently? Forget about it.

Best to find a local tailor who has experience with making them. Apne usually know or are aware of someone who can sort you out.

Is that you, Jagsaw? ?

Mr. Panesar usually doesn't venture beyond the safe confines of his own crew's "board", lol.

Go to your nearest Jatt gurdwara and request a few minutes on the stage, lol.

Your broken record routine got tired like 10 years ago. Saltiness and bitterness is not an attractive quality. It's like you can't help yourself from making little digs. You give too much away because you lack self control to let some comments slide. It's like you feel compelled to excise your frustration EVERY.SINGLE.OCCASION someone mentions a certain issue that triggers you. That's not how men behave.

There is something else I was tempted to mention, but I thought it would be mean spirited considering the young guy died. But seeing as you raised the subject... There is an arrogance and an "I know it all" attitude that's rather pervasive among young, somewhat successful Sikhs involved in certain movements and initiatives. They have very little life experience beyond their sheltered and rather mellow lives. They're dismissive of their others' advice or words of caution, and seem to labour the impression that they're somehow immune to the genuine threats out there. Being young and fearless is one thing, but succumbing to foolishness is unwise. Throw wealth / disposable income into the equation, and it's not a case of "if" things will go pear shaped but "when."

Sometimes young and impressionable guys need an older, more experienced hand to nudge them away from potentially dangerous situations and people. Some of us who sadly don't have a guiding hand in our lives are fortunate -- if fortunate is the right word -- to fall, suffer immensely, but still emerge from our tribulations a little more wiser albeit figuratively bruised. Some, like the young Singh who was killed, don't get that second chance.

I'll quote the above when you post a topic that writes off entire races and communities... like blacks and Muslims, lol. You're a troll, and not a very capable one at that.

Legally, she's done her time. But I suppose no amount of punishment will ever be enough for the Singh's family. The rest of us can learn from the mistakes of others.

I'm not interested in anything you have to say. The last time you and I interacted you made it clear you're incapable of distinguishing friend from foe. Give it a rest; you're just as bad as the OP except generally a little more eloquent. And as if BT actually gives a flying poo about any of that. He just wants to get as many cheap jabs in as possible even at the expense of the bigger picture. That just proves his "integrity and conscience" is in a place where he can't easily fish it out.

Perhaps. I think it was just a very convoluted way of him downplaying various atrocities meted out on Sikhs -- a faith he feels is dominated by one particular caste group that he doesn't seem to like -- and therefore by drawing attention away from those most recent atrocities, in his twisted mind he's striking a blow against the aforementioned caste group and the religion itself by suggesting, "You people don't have a monopoly on persecution. We were persecuted before the creation of the Sikh faith."

I agree that we should keep an open mind about scientific theories that are prone to the limits of their respective eras, but Kulbir Singh's misunderstanding of even the basics doesn't inspire confidence in his conclusions. Seriously, he trips up in the first paragraph. Generally, it is unwise to travel the route of Islamic "scholars" and religious guides by attacking theories that seemingly are at odds with religious teachings. Eventually we'll foster a climate in Sikhi where we become the opposite of what our faith is admired for: rationality and common sense. These attempts to create a counter narrative are the signs of either a devious mind purposefully trying to defame Sikhi as a stone age irrelevance, or an idle mind with too much spare time on their hands.

That's what I was getting at.

Time flies. I remember the original case of the dead young Singh was discussed quite passionately on this very forum.

Nah, that's not what I was getting at. These people partake in the ceremony and ritual of it; they bask in the glow of being vaguely associated with Sikhi. But once you lean on them a little bit, or even suggest they nail their colours to the mast in even the most superficial way, they get very uncomfortable.

And I was agreeing with you!

That doesn't explain why some apne get visibly agitated when they're put on the spot and made to identify their allegiance. There's even a certain amount of hesitance and shame, although I can't imagine why. So, if such people were appreciative that due to our history "we are worth something," then shouldn't they be pleased to identify as Sikh? Why is it acceptable to downplay one's religious allegiance?

Some people from a Sikh background don't like acknowledging the religion of their ancestors. I think, in their minds, it undermines the belief they've been fed that religion is unimportant, and that character, personality, and integrity are paramount. Unfortunately, when you come across a member of a particular faith that is somewhat aggressively persistent in their religiosity, lol, you've immediately ceded a certain amount of social ground/space, and placed yourself on the backfoot from the outset.

I've no idea, bro.

Something similar happened to the daughter of a friend of my mum's. Seems like a common thing. It was a shotgun wedding, lol. She wasn't underage, but she fell pregnant, so they did the needful, lol. The baby was born 4 months after the wedding took place, and the girl's mother tried to convince everyone the baby was premature! The guy got what he wanted: the possibility of British citizenship.

Nothing? The man's contributed huge quantities of ideas over the years about every topic under the sun. He could compile at least a few volumes of work, a la Marcel Proust, from his contributions to this forum. I may have a slight difference of opinion with Jagsaw concerning certain issues, but I can't fault his inquiring mind. The quam could do with some original voices.

Write a book.

It's recommended not to post a topic of every half-baked thought that crosses the mind.

Sabotage. It also allows her to fatten herself up, too. If husband is carrying extra kilos, it allows her to do the same without any fear of you telling her to lose weight.