MisterrSingh

OK, by that logic if you were ever Lord Chancellor of law and justice in somewhere like England, when someone is murdered in cold blood you'd say, "Well, it was the victim's karma he was killed. He did some paap in his previous life; let's go home, no point in hanging around here." From a spiritual POV I'm not denying that kind of thought comes into play, but there are rules and systems that can't exist on karma alone.

Sister, you can't play the "karma" card whenever you find something difficult to explain or when things don't fit your worldview. I'm not denying karma are important, but you use it to end all debate... and it usually works, lol!

It's like Interstellar all over again, but with meditation instead of spaceships and wormholes.

Sri Preet Maharaj Ji is from a dimension above ours where mere mortals such as you and i are not permitted to enter.

Any minority or people that have even the faintest of desires to not die out need their own homeland. Sikhs are under attack. It's not the overt onslaught of the 80's and 90's, but it's incessant and it's subtle. But I keep coming back to this fact: they over there need to be the ones who must desire and instigate change. us over here can scream until we're blue in the face. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. The old reasons of not knowing what's happening in the outside world are moot. Modern technology has put paid to ignorance or censorship. They can't keep bleating on about TV channels stifling the Truth when news and other things of that nature aren't solely limited to television anymore. The will simply isn't there. They have too much to lose. "Peace" has cost us our strength, "victory" has defeated us.

Maybe not.

Absolutely, he must be ruffling some feathers if the Indians are being petty with visas. Probably because he's speaking against Indian abuses? That's brilliant he's using his position to highlight Sikh issues. Plus, he's a good role model for any young Sikhs who assume Sikhi saroop is a hindrance to getting ahead in life.

You have to admire her in a way. She isn't shy in coming forward and fights her corner when presenting her opinions regardless of whether we agree with her. I could be doing a disservice to her fellow Sikh females, but trying to get an original thought or even a bland opinion out of a Sikh girl is like trying to draw blood out of a stone at times. That's the one, Singh Ji, thanks. Is he still fighting the good fight for Canadian Sikhs? He hasn't sold out has he, hehe?

Bet you never thought you'd have to type the above sentence in your life, ever! On topic though, the accomplished young Canadian Gursikh gentleman who made headlines a while back for being voted into Parliament, who was that fellow? He seems like a good sort. Wish there individuals such as him in UK politics.

I want to know the location of this utopian, mythical sadhsangat that has my best intentions at heart and is always there for me when I need their support, and can be trusted to be discrete at all times whilst I share with them my deepest and most personal issues and dilemmas. Does that sound like apne to you at all, lol? One loose word in the wrong ear and your private business will be all around town before you've even reached your own doorstep!

I think those going out of their way to appease and accommodate moderates (particularly those on the Left) are doing so under the assumption that - hypothetically speaking - if a situation arises where Muslims are in a position to seize power through force in a European country (as unlikely as that sounds) these non-Muslim appeasers are hoping the Islamic moderates will stand up on behalf of non-Muslims against their hard-line Islamic brothers and plead for mercy on our behalf. Why on earth would any moderate do that? Any so-called moderate who understands his or her religion would also understand that, in the hypothetical situation I've described above, all Muslims would be on the precipice of the exact type of situation their religion prescribes to be the only course of action for a true Muslim. Why would they risk bring branded an apostate and endanger their own life and perhaps those of their family by speaking up? If by some miraculous chance a few Muslims do feel their conscience stir and object to what's going on around them, they would be going against the tenets of their faith! They have nothing to lose. I really do hope Islam has been unfairly maligned and that it is actually a religion of peace that has been wildly misinterpreted by those with vested interests. If not then troubled times lay ahead for all.

It's not enough. It never will be enough. What I really want to know is are even the moderates biding their time, letting the hardliners take the flack and brickbats, presenting themselves as the acceptable and conciliatory face of their religion, whilst secretly hoping for the same outcome as their visibly extreme brethren? Or am I being completely paranoid?

One thing is for certain: their loyalty to their religion trumps everything else, even what most of us would term as the Truth, or right and wrong. If their faith says the sky is green and the grass is blue, then that's what they believe. There is no reasoning, no meeting halfway, no live and let live.

Makes me wonder whether many more Muslims truly believe this caliphate is the one that's been prophesied for centuries.

Yeah, I had a suspicion that might be the case, hehe, but I wasn't certain.

We're almost in danger of becoming an unimaginative, straight-down-the-middle, unromantic (not in THAT way), humourless people, and that's a tragedy. Ultimately it will be to our detriment, as anyone not part of the mainstream will be shunned and sidelined as worthless. Some of that blame has to fall on the shoulders of our obsession with materialism. I've seen even the uber-religious try to bend over backwards to explain why the pursuit of accumulating vast amounts of wealth is wonderfully noble. Of course, we can't exist on thin air and words, but the balance has been heavily skewed towards one particular direction.

Also, someone could be the most wonderful Sikh in the world, but if they suffer from complete alopecia they're in trouble, lol.

But... everything really does come from India...

Touché.

I understand the reasoning for such stories, but I'd rather keep kesh because of obeying Guru Sahib's hukam. I don't need the dramatic carrot of bring plucked from hellfire dangled in front of me to scare me into conforming. This may sound awesome when you're a teen or a child, but the older you get the more you realise Guru Sahib is not a cartoon character / superhero who goes around doing such things. In your attempt to portray him as such, what you're actually doing is giving the impression he isn't capable of looking into the soul of every Sikh and see who is his Sikh and who isn't.

Honesty and bravery.

I can see why you'd assume the above to be the case, but strangely enough there is a phenomena in Sikhi where some Sikhs declare they are Sikhs of Guru Nanak Ji, whilst others proudly declare themselves as Sikhs of Guru Gobind Singh Ji (the last Master who was Guru in human form). Why do they do it? Well, I think those who exclusively opt for the first Guru prefer the less confrontational, mellower aspects of the Sikh faith, whereas those who go the second route are more geared towards the gung-ho warrior mentality. Unfortunately for both parties they fail to understand both figures are one and the same. There is no difference as they (and the other 8 Guru Sahibs in between) had the same Light of God in them. A Sikh cannot cling to extremes of either variation considering how the world and its people operate; hence the term Saint-Soldier. Guru Nanak Ji's approach was perfect for their time; one of reaching out and lifting veils of ignorance and hypocrisy through the strength of their words (which is also something Guru Gobind Singh Ji did and mustn't be forgotten), whilst Guru Gobind Singh Ji realised that in order to survive and defend the rights of the people words alone cannot suffice against an enemy that only understands the language of fear and violence. Although it was in fact Guru Gobind Singh's grandfather (the 6th Guru) that first instigated and encouraged the warrior ethic in Sikhs. A wise Sikh loves and adheres to the teachings of all Ten Gurus considering them as one. There is no cult or dominance of one personality - or there shouldn't be - as it flies in the face of everything Sikhi stands for. Just my take on the situation.

Just imagine being married to the object of your lust. That'll put an end to any desire on your part. I'm joking!! All of the above posts before mine are great advice. You must be determined to stop... no half-heartedness. Although in all honesty I think the poor lad started the topic under the assumption it would be anonymous.

I did not know they bowed to Guru Sahib. Thanks for the confirmation, bro.