dallysingh101

Oh, look where they've been learning from......

3 hours ago, realist17 said:

There's an article stating he got poisoned. Messed up. 

Let's be careful, remember the whole furore about Moosewala  being attacked using AN 94s which seems like uncorroborated stuff planted in the media.  

20 hours ago, BhForce said:

It says that in the Rehitnamas: Don't tell the ਅੰਦਰਲਾ ਭੇਦ (internal secret) to ਇਸਤਰੀ (woman). 

But some of our Sikhs cope with that by saying that that just refers to female spies that were sent to get information from Sikh warriors.

It saying plainly to keep some things secret from women and yet we still do not want to obey.

Women love a 'mysterious man' - could be this? Also, some women are famous for getting bored with blokes quickly, so keeping a part of yourself back could be advantageous. 

On 6/16/2023 at 1:15 AM, BhForce said:

I know there are "bad" in-laws, but if it's just a case of two parties both wanting the "upper hand", then the bride is in the wrong. She's supposed to live with and follow the in-laws (unless they are actually demonic).

It would be highly rare for in-laws to be just picking fights for the sheer pleasure of it.

Anyways, that's what the texts say.

I know there are problematic situations, but the West has totally destroyed itself making the exception the rule.

To me, it looks like we are only now increasingly realising how prevalent mental conditions such as sociopathy and NPD can be in societies. 

This can actually possibly help us understand some of the familial conflicts we see amongst apnay. 

59 minutes ago, BhForce said:

Bhai Gurdas ji says this regarding wives picking fights with father and mothers in-law, but the same kind of thing could apply to brothers-in-law.

ਨੁੰਹੁ ਨਿਤ ਮੰਤ ਕੁਮੰਤ ਦੇਇ ਮਾਂ ਪਿਓ ਛਡਿ ਵਡੇ ਹਤਿਆਰੇ।

The bride then started continuously advising the husband to desert his parents instigating that they had been tyrants.

ਵਖ ਹੋਵੈ ਪੁਤੁ ਰੰਨਿ ਲੈ ਮਾਂ ਪਿਉ ਦੇ ਉਪਕਾਰੁ ਵਿਸਾਰੇ।

Forgetting the benefactions of parents, the son alongwith his wife got separated from them.

Vaar 37, Pauri 12

Does this mean that Sikhi doesn't acknowledge the potential for some in-laws to be malevolent?   Or parents being neglectful of their children?

19 hours ago, imhosingh said:

Nonce are devious by nature. They promote their own and protect each other. It's not just men either who protect them 

You're not wrong at all here. I was pretty much told this by an expert. He said "They are very devious and adept at worming themselves into positions which aid their predilections." 

Also. judging by both savile, scofield and umpteen pakistani groomers, it's not just 'their own' that protect them. We have a very strange thing going on in certain societies. 

Forget ghosts.

What do people make of all the recent furore about about the US having captured 'alien crafts' and aliens themselves? 

Is it bull5hit? An attempt to detract the population in the face of domestic and international problems? 

22 hours ago, dharamyudh said:

Yeah you would think you'd get all lazy but not at all. I honestly didn't feel anything other than internal calmness and focus. I believe the original maryada is to put 5 leaves but some people go a little overboard. It tastes like a desi milkshake only with a cannabis aftertaste. Pretty easy to make, you should try it out.  

In the past I've made a tea from the ingredients of sukha nidhaan i.e. boiling a few small green lachis, saunf, cinnamon stick, javentry, black pepper, cloves and a few sukha leaves for 20 minutes. You are right in that it doesn't buzz you all over the shop. 

I found it really good as an anti-stress, anti-inflammatory, relaxant. Also, seems really good for nerve pain.

Do you know how long the nihangs raggarh it? And what prayers they might recite when they do it? 

PS- I also found pasted poppy seeds (in a mortar and pestle) boiled with milk and with some black pepper and keeo to be a very subtle but potent relaxant. 

PS - some of those ingredients actually inhibit some of the intoxicating effects of sukha (i.e. cloves and black pepper), so it's more thought out than some might imagine. 

@californiasardar1

The whole 'work' thing got hijacked in itself, it was originally about equality for people of colour then it morphed into something else. You have to check out Bill Burr's take on it. 

2 hours ago, dharamyudh said:

I have actually had the opportunity to drink Degh with Nihangs. I felt relaxed, calm, and kinda focused. It kills that anxiety knot-like feeling you get in your stomach. Because of this, I always thought of it as a way to calm your  nerves before battle. Imagine preparing yourself to launch an attack against some Mughal, Afghan, or some other adversary. The anticipation, unless you're at a high level of bhakti, will get to anyone. Your heart would probably be beating out of your chest, some may even shake and feel jumpy. Drinking Degh essentially eliminates that feeling completely and allows you to focus in on the task at hand. 

Lucky you!

That makes good sense. I thought that it might hamper physical coordination in battle, but in small doses it probably wouldn't.  

I think it's important for Panjabis on both side of the border to ponder this. I'm pretty sure in the event of all out conflict, this will be some of the stuff that will possibly be done in the region.  

6 hours ago, californiasardar1 said:

 

She urgently needs to learn how to read and write.

Not everyone can be a part of the 'Sikh literati' - for now she needs a wider, more positive sphere of influence outside of social media. 

2 hours ago, ipledgeblue said:

lol this is the kind of stuff accounts used to get banned for on this forum!

5 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

I remember when mentioning Jhatka would get you warnings.

I remember those old days. I think what happened is that in the face of a tidal wave of historical accounts of things like jhatka and the use of sukha, including from internal Sikh sources, the old conservative stances simply couldn't be maintained anymore?    

The emergence of khojis who would study and sometimes even translate puratan texts instead of blindly following what was told by conservative, uninformed elders actually helped make our community a bit more open minded. I think a more grown up, contextualised understanding of CP in Dasam Granth also played a part. 

We could maybe see it as the slow fragmentation of hegemony of the colonial era Singh Sabha type thinking?  

I get Ranjeet's and Ipledgeblue's point, and take it on board. I'd still see for myself though. 

That being said, that Kau89r8 sister still urgently needs to find something that healthily resonates with her on the Sikhi front, and find alternative perspectives from skewed social media sources. Some people seem more susceptible to being indoctrinated by social media than others, and that's dangerous in this day and age. 

What's weird as heck is that I actually heard about Schofield doing this grooming stuff on this very forum a good few years ago??? And it's only now coming out in public.  

@redoptics2013

Can she cook bro!!! 

You would have thought people would've learnt from Saville...........

5 hours ago, Kau89r8 said:

become a bahman then 

off all the things nvr expected for you to say that...gross  

It's more than a little ironic that you talk about bahmuns, who many characterise as being caste obsessed but can't see the same thing blatantly talking place amongst our own.........you make me laugh lady. 

Basically, the 'culture' Moosewala exemplified is pushing a lot of our own samaaj into the polar opposite of this direction, and I don't think it's doing anything remotely positive for Sikhs.

On 5/30/2023 at 6:35 AM, BhForce said:

"Jatt x 10000"

It actually is hilarious how just about every Punjabi song is Jatt this and Jatt that these days. Even the singers from other castes (like Miss Pooja) make themselves out to be Jatts for the purposes of their songs.

Thing is, it never used to be like this.

In terms of Panjabi 'culture' it's not exactly inspiring is it.  To me it reflects a serious lack of imagination and talent. And what does it say about Panjab, the birthplace of Sikhi, in that it mass produces this type of low brow crap as it's main contribution to arts, and that hordes of apnay lap it up.