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4 hours ago, CHaamCHrick said:

Baba Budha Sahib Ji also did the tilak on  our Guru Sahiban Ji’s foreheads on their Gadhi Divas.  EDUCATE.

yes, good stuff. Jatha/committee walay don't like us to know this stuff 

On 4/10/2022 at 9:12 AM, CHaamCHrick said:

What Have We Learnt From 1984?
 

Nothing!!! The Sikh Panth still stands where it was pre-1984 in the sense that there is no unity, collective goal etc! 

there was a time when panth was united under budha dal and tarna dal by Nawab Kapur Singh, when we had a Raaj.. Unfortunately, with the help of goray, committees and jathas got created and joined with outsiders to the Sarbat Khalsa, like Phulkian Misl, to take over gurdwaras and create disunity.

35 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

I came into sikhi via Tapoban website and always tried to keep strong Sarbloh pehra. I ate from a bibi and came to know she wasn't bibeki and was a bit sad that I ate from a non bibeki's hand.

So you followed Sarbloh Bibeck and drank water from Well?

On 4/12/2022 at 6:01 AM, shastarSingh said:

All this buddha dal and Tarna dal being made in earlier part of 18th century is false.

Baba Buddha ji were the first commander of Buddha Dal.

18 hours ago, CHaamCHrick said:

Evidence?

Evidence was that Baba Budha ji was first commander of Guru Hargobind ji's akal Sena, and the dal was hence named after Baba Budha ji, therefore Baba Budha Dal and Budha Dal.

Read up more about history of Guru Hargobind and listen to katha such as Suraj Prakash. "EDUCATE" 

22 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

 

yo, most of those men look nothing like Kisaans. Could have at least dressed the part for this main photo! At least Deep Sidhu started dressing in a supportive manner!

18 hours ago, CHaamCHrick said:

You can definitely do with one! 

why say such a thing?

On 7/4/2021 at 11:07 AM, chatanga1 said:

 

Really great information.

But it only takes one drop of poison in a dish of food to kill you...

 

Niddar says that Guru Nanak Dev Ji was "taught" shastar vidya by some kapil naths or something like that. That meant that Guru Nanak Dev Ji had a Guru other than Sri Akal Purkh, which is absolute nonsense. Guru Nanak Dev Ji already had these qualities and knowledge. No-one could teach the Guru anything. If they could they were HIS Guru.

 

Beware of what you take from this video as niddar is well known for his intellectual dishonesty. And I say that from personal experience.

Guru Nanak also had teachers teaching languages when Guru ji was young, so how many Gurus does that add to your list?????

Are you really not able to differentiate ishtdev-Guru from vidiya-Gurus/ustads/adiyapaks etc...?

15 hours ago, Premi5 said:

Posting this video not because it’s my opinion but because I want to learn more on others’ experience in Shastar Vidiya and know about who others here have learned from

I am aware Nidar Singh is ‘controversial’

@shastarSingh? @Koi  and others

 

 

he was more controversial when there was less knowledge about Nihang Singhs and Dasam bani as well as lack of knowledge of historical granths such as Suraj Prakash as well as other historical sources.

Now that the gyaan knowledge is spreading and colonial sects and SGPC as less influential in pushing their brands of sikhi, the controversy should be much less.

oh yeh so Sonia Deol she got married and moved to Canada. so what has she been doing now?+

On 3/10/2022 at 5:55 PM, Kau89r8 said:

You are a perfect saint and will get fast track to Sachkand.

Rest are going to fall in hell. We get it.

On 3/19/2022 at 8:34 AM, BhForce said:

No, bro, Sonia is one of the turncoats that I specifically mentioned.

Well, that would be different, no? "Lilly Singh" (whatever her name is) claims to be not a Sikh. If so, what's she doing in Amritsar? Holding hands together is pure hypocrisy and self-promotion.

Deep, on the other hand, didn't claim to be not a Sikh. Rather he was just an imperfect Sikh. He didn't follow any other religion. He wasn't an atheist. He believed in God and our Gurus. Sure, he was having some fun along the way, but so as Maharaja Ranjit Singh. Would you trade the Maharaja for Abdali or Nader Shah?

A little bit of humility will go a long ways. 

 

ਹਮ ਨਹੀ ਚੰਗੇ ਬੁਰਾ ਨਹੀ ਕੋਇ ॥

Ham nahī chaṅgē burā nahī kōi ॥

I am not good; no one is bad.

ਪ੍ਰਣਵਤਿ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਤਾਰੇ ਸੋਇ ॥੪॥੧॥੨॥

Praṇvati nānku tārē sōi ॥4॥1॥2॥

Prays Nanak, He alone saves us! ||4||1||2||

ਸੂਹੀ (ਮਃ ੧) (੨) ੪:੨ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੭੨੮ ਪੰ. ੧੪
 

Again, no one is saying that Deep should have been a Singh Sahib at Darbar Sahib. That'd be crazy. Just that he was no more anti-Sikh than all the other youth in Punjab who identify as Sikhs.

Well, this is actually true. No reason to praise Lilly for that (because she's a hypocrite in this regard) but it doesn't make it untrue.

for many youth, they may not consider themselves sikhs but they definitely have some anti-gurmatt views, whether they are aware or not!

On 4/5/2022 at 8:25 PM, californiasardar1 said:

 

 

I don't think singhs are better than monay.

Monay are just not sikhs. It is that simple. That is not my opinion. That is what monay have declared.

 

 

Anyway, it is not about judging individuals, who are complex and must be assessed as wholes. Who am I to judge anyway.

But it is sad that, even on forums meant to promote and discuss Sikhi, it is somehow controversial to say that cutting kesh is wrong. It is somehow controversial to say that "keeping kesh is better than cutting kesh."

Shouldn't be controversial at all, cutting kesh is still manmatt, however innocent..

On 4/6/2022 at 4:38 AM, SinghPunjabSingh said:

@MisterrSingh 

I don't believe we share any mythological history with Hindu's.

Though Gurbani does make use of exclusively Hindu mythology in order to illustrate to pantheists that there is only One Ik Onkar that we need focus on.

this mythology is from ancient times, way before there were any hindus. So in some ways we do share some mythology and history with modern hindus. The mistake people make is to call this mythology and history as exclusively hindu, whereas this is not true!

On 4/6/2022 at 4:15 PM, californiasardar1 said:

 

Did "Khulasa Sikhs" refer to khalsa Sikhs who got haircuts?

On 4/6/2022 at 5:49 PM, californiasardar1 said:

 

Okay, correct me if I am wrong, but the term "khulasa Sikh" seems to correspond to the definition I gave of "sehajdhari:" people born in Hindu families who had an affinity for Sikhi but had not transitioned to being keshdhari Sikhs yet. As far as I can tell, it does NOT refer to people born into keshdhari families who decided to become monay.

no, I think khulasa referred to sehajdharis, who were still meant to to be keshdharis! Also many hindus back then were keshdharis

12 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

We had a difference of opinion on a rehit and he said that i will get a bodi like chanakya has a pony tail.

What does the Sangat think about it.

I was wearing a blue banaa and he said "bodi nikal juu".

tell him to read Chaupai Sahib with Arril

On 6/15/2021 at 7:07 PM, shastarSingh said:

Anyone?

yes true

On 4/9/2022 at 11:38 AM, Jacfsing2 said:

I don’t think any of those groups intentionally go against gurbani, but rather that’s how they go towards because of how they’ve been taught. It’s likely that Bhai Fauja Singh and Sukhdev Singh Babbar wouldn’t have believed in Raagmala; however, Sant Jarnail Singh wouldn’t have considered them anti-gurbani people, (despite him believing Raagmala was 100% gurbani). 
 

Even if we look at the past, there was no hostility between Sant Gurbachan Singh Bhinderwale and Bhai Randhir Singh. 

doesn't matter about hostility or not, the fact is there is shanka being taught about Benthii Chaupai Sahib for around a century, none of the sampradaiye practise this, and Chaupai Sahib was never read like this in 19th century.

end of the day, we should listen to pracharaks who don't do shanka of bani like Gurwinder Singh Nangli, and not listen as much to those who do, regardless of their feelings and aims. Gurmatt is more about Guru and less about listening to personalities deviating for their own reasons!

The raagmala argument goes deeper. However the argument for Chaupai Sahib is a load of nonsense and mischief.

4 minutes ago, californiasardar1 said:

 

How about monay go straight to the wedding reception?

Then they wouldn't have to waste $500 paying some guy who just arrived from India to a tie a pagh on them.

yeh in Reading Berkshie, I know a family where the boy refused to wear a pagh and do Anand Karaj. I guuess they just did the court marriage  (civil ceremony) and then there was a party!

2 minutes ago, californiasardar1 said:

 

 

It's amusing that so many people are now upset about "interfaith anand karaj" ceremonies, for example. We got to that point by adopting an all-inclusive "anything goes" attitude in terms of how Sikh weddings are conducted. And when the pro-"interfaith anand karaj" crowd points out the immense hypocrisy, it is difficult to answer them.

how about Singhs start practising puraatan anand viyaa ceremonies and monas can do Anand Karaj, that sounds fun lolz

On 4/6/2022 at 2:52 AM, Jacfsing2 said:

Is this a legit source? 

I actually heard about this in katha, might be in Suraj Prakash. Then I did some Googling.

55 minutes ago, proudkaur21 said:

Sikhs need to start small scale animal farms and selling jhatka meat.

yes!

1 minute ago, Premi5 said:

Problem is many Sikhs will eat Halal or not too bothered if they have no choice on the matter

I think we are better off vegetarian to avoid these issues to start with

I mean I can discuss this with you with gurmatt and rehit, however meat discussion is not allowed on this forum, especially if it is a pro-meat or pro jhatka discussion.

1 hour ago, Redoptics said:

Start bloody complaining like the Muslims do, say we are not allowed to eat,  kosher,  halal or any other type of meat that slowly dies.

we just need to start demanding jhatka, like sikh regiments used to get during colonial times.