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but modern anand karaj didn't exist before 1699, I am talking about the modern sgpc/nirankari version.

too young, have you seen the alternatives of girlfriend boyfriends? I have seen amrit dharis getting into this disgraceful culture, and also getting stressed out because of it. It's not a fantasy world, but just like puraatan times people are still stuck in maya. Just like puraatan times, in jawani age the kaam vikaar is really high. Please show me how many sikhs and amrit dharis are in control and not in control in their teens and early 20s due to non-marriage? The fact is even if they have arguments, they are young and have parents and in-laws to get involved and be explained to.

shouldn't gurdwara matrimonials promote gurmatt instead of people hating on turbans and beards in there? what are they doing with the golak monies and matrimonial membership fees?

this jatt girl with pardra post, is it posted every year. what the heck is a pardra? A sikh is not "supposed to be with" boys or girls. They are supposed to be in grihast with life partner, ie after marriage. If you're doing this stupid trashy girlfriend boyfriend casual partnership then it doesn't matter which caste or race religion panth, then it's just gand behaviour, manmatt. As a sikh, only look for a life partner. Casual partner and then this exe stuff is just malesh behaviour. Yes, Guru Arjan Dev ji calls Bhagat Dhanna a Jatt.

Most people cannot control their kaam and vikaars and grihast jeevan would greatly help them in their teens. Most people who say they are not ready at 18 are lying, speaking chooth, as they are making casual partners of girlfriend boyfriend. Look at the example of puraatan gursikhs and our Guru jis, and see the ages they married. To get married at your age you have an advantage. Alot of sikhs are causing destructive behaviours within the community due to putting off marriage until late 20s and even much later. The money making mentality has put sikhs away from gurmatt mentality. At your younger age, you will have a chance to grow with your partner into adulthood. Most people these days waste this growing up with casual partners. And those that get married later have grown older and independent minded, causing many women to not gel properly with in-laws, and also just couples having differing viewpoints etc etc

I think after paat you are becoming energised. You need some activity to control this. Grihast jeevan is important, and also practising shastar, or just doing some work or study, keep your mind occupied. Or do some hard exercise, exercise is extremely important to rehit as well. daily nitnem is not an excuse to cut out exercise.

the more you do sikhi, the more likely you will have to become grihasti. your lifestyle is incompatible with grihast. Grihast lifestyle is supposed to help you control the vikaars that you are chasing right now.

I think as long as amrit dharis don't follow rehit properly, such as including the warrior aspects as well as with nitnem, then they are still going to be held back by their families; cultures and tribes/castes etc Some sikhs will be more joined to their sampradaiye, such as some sikh sants and sadhus, and Nihang Singhs etc. As they are less binded by cultures of outside castes and tribes, they are more likely to be in gurmatt. This is the opposite for sikhs following SGPC, and colonial jathebandis and I guess many sant babay as well...

the problem I see from some of the people finding it difficult to keep kesh in this topic - it's the fact they see sikhi as a religion like goray do, instead of being a learner of sikh panth as a dharma. When sikh tradition is done as dharam istead of religion, there is a big change in mentality. Learning from Guru instead of religion. Remember, sikh is a learner. Sikhs don't practise sikhi, they DO sikhi....

maybe take her to a sikhi camp and tell her it's an event or fare or something. IF she is new to the UK surely you can convince her?

But please also remember to do shingaar of your dumalla, I mean warrior shingaar of course!

OK, but make it easier for Rajas to be removed, by people and also by the central government. Can't be worse than the corrupt (un)democratic system in India now. I also think Raja system fits more into dharmik and sikhi systems.

I think we can perhaps look at naamdharis as another route to see if they have kept any Laavan rehit as well. I know they don't do prakarma around Adi Gur Granth Sahib for Laavan. I don't know if there are other sampradaiye or sects we can look at as well. Is there any authentic ceremony that Dals have preserved?

I think the modern version (created by the original Nirankaris and Singh Sabha/SGPC) was strictly for Amrit Dharis. There was Anand Viyaah, but this was probably different in some way to modern Anand Karaj. Also Laavan wasn't created until Guru Ram Dass. I hear during Guru Amar Dass period Anand Sahib may have been read.

modern 19th/20th century Anand Karaj ceremony was created for amrit dharis originally.

that look would just not work for a real Singh on the battlefield. It would not intimidate the enemy at all....

I would restore the princely states, but make them connected under a central government. A bit like federal USA but with Rajas instead of Senators. Would also promote some kind of united Punjab.

you should only do pentras that suit Singhs and bana. i.e. proper Shastar vidiya pentras endorsed by Guru Hargobind, Guru Gobind Singh, Baba Buddha jee etc. some of the gatka stuff (like the spinning and around and spin jumping, and especially slapping your thighs in front of shastar) is not authentic with the maryada of Khalsa panth and Khalsa Fauj!

IS it any good, or is it really boring like some of the melas we have down in West London?

I think human sexuality is fluid and shouldn't necessarily be labelled for some people. This includes maharajas/kings and possibly even some prophet(s), especially when it came to Eunuchs and also heard of young boys. Many sikhs and other people used to start grihast jeevan before their 20s. Many of them married people they never saw the face of until after the wedding These ancestors were married in their teens and this helped control vikaar especially kaam. Also people were hard working so they may not have had time or may have been to calm or tired to chase after other partners! As sikhs we should strive for grihast jeevan and to bring bhujangis into the world as sewa and sewa to Khalsa panth. We shouldn't let any sexual desires control us and grihast ashram should also be done as sewa.

this bit about the article is inaccurate. Nanak Panthis are sehajdhari sikhs. Many of them also don't have Singh in their names, and at least they don't do beadbi of Singh name even if they do cut their kesh or their children's kesh.

Adi Guru Granth Sahib is a universal scripture, no religion is required to follow it.

yes but that doesn't give it any public exposure

Still there should be an app that gives the site some exposure. It can simply be an app which opens up the site in a browser, or opens it in a self contained browser.

oh is it. they wanted around £200 from me about a decade ago, prices must have gone up. why would naamdharis learn from them when they can learn from naamdhari ustads??