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instead panth supports pracharaks that do beadbi and shanka of Chaupai Sahib, such as Gurmat Bibek youtube channel which is on the Sikh videos - intermediate  on the forum banner above.

Gurwinder Singh nangli would never do this cutting of Kabyo Baach Benti Chaupai, he is from sampradaiye which would never do such a thing! so-called panthik people are corrupt. I think he has even done prachar of this shanka and beadbi groups do of Benti Chaupai Sahib bani!

23 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

FFS dude, and you're the one going on about monay the most......

 

he is still keshdhari, keeping kesh is still seen as important to keep by any sikh by the Guru sahibs. Just read some bachans of Guru Gobind Singh.

16 hours ago, BhForce said:

Well, there are a few things the "Rehitdharis" could learn from "monas":

1) be physically strong

2) breed.

Of course, old Sikhs did both of these things. The current crop of weakling Sikhs who do nothing but listen to Kirtan don't. Because they're too "smart" for that.

you mean breed after getting married right? and you are saying all monas are strong, there are all kind of monas...

1 hour ago, proudkaur21 said:

well i already have plans to go back. Idky sgpc doesn't help facilitate moving sikhligarh sikhs to Punjab from Madhya Pradesh to increase the sikh population there. It's not like they lack funds. They live in very poor conditions in the forest areas.

why can't we hire sikhiligarh and vanjara sikhs to work on our lands in punjab, instead of the bhaiyas/bhaiye who aren't going to help our culture or panth?

On 3/9/2022 at 3:57 AM, dharamyudh said:

@Suchi after reading this 

Before:

After: 

now they are real kshatriya, allow the wannabes

On 3/8/2022 at 3:59 AM, GurjantGnostic said:

@Suchi Suuuuuuuu chiiiiiiiiiii....grow your Kesh.....be a Keshdhari like every great figure of the Vedas. 

Guru Gobind Singh does actually mention something similar about Khalsa keeping kesh like the ancient Rishis I think, in Sarbloh Granth

4 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

My ancestors were tricked into Sikhi by another group of devious jatts.

Lift the floorboards, bruin!

2 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

Don't forget the 'pareepa-ing'! Bruin without the pareepa-ing is a fool's game! 

is some of that rehnsbai keertan an extension of this culture?

On 2/7/2022 at 7:15 PM, Guest guest said:

oh please.  revisionism 101.  stop deny any hindu past.  jatts were obivously hindus before.  even the ones who followed Saki Sarovar were probably Hindus.  Normal muslims don't follow sufi saints as its against their religion. Thats Hindus and Sikhs that do that (even today).

and literacy of what language?  english?  urdu?

many jatts were jathera worshippers and not considered hindus. I don't think jatt people were normally considered hindus and also not part of vedic peoples.

The arya samaj movement  did a shudi ceremony to bring some jatts into the hindu fold during british raj colonial times

3 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Ah hah. Does that come with prime?

no I don't think so

57 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

It both free and 150 lol. You can read it for free or you can pay for a copy it looks like. 

nope, only free if you have kindle unlimited

On 2/9/2022 at 3:02 PM, shastarSingh said:

It's free on kindle.

On 2/11/2022 at 5:40 PM, SeekingNimrata said:

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Ji,

I was thinking about starting to wake up during amritvela(3AM in specific). I thought I would go to sleep at around 7PM so I could get a full 8 hours of sleep since that is what experts recommend and I personally don't feel very good when I sleep less than 8 hours. However I recently came across this pangti:

Does it mean that I am committing a sin by sleeping 8-9 hours?

Now of course guru sahib cannot be wrong and they would never misguide us. Does that mean we should sleep 6 hours or less despite science recommending 7-9 hours worth of sleep?

Please don't get me wrong I am not saying guru sahib is wrong and mean no disrespect at all, I ask this because I am a bit confused and require guidance.

Thank you.
 

one thing I need to mention, people used to sleep twice a day in those days, not the once a day post-industrial revolution sleep people do now. 

You may see Nihang Singhs wake up bare early and do sewa and nitnem paat, then they might sleep again during the daytime.

10 hours ago, NaamTiharoJoJape said:

wasn't aware gurudwaras dont do aarti in evening, if thats the case there probably are gurudwaras not performing asa di vaar amritvela either 

in the uk some radio stations and tv stations don't play aarti after sodar rehras, and same with some gurdwaras. I am sure I have also seen this in gurdwaras in punjab!  Asa di waar however I think is more regular!

12 hours ago, SikhKosh said:

Here are the bits by Bhai Gurdas about nitnem, interestingly Jaap instead of Japji (which could not refer to Jaap Sahib as the vaars were written during earlier Gurus times).


ਸਹਜਿ ਸਮਾਧਿ ਅਗਾਧਿ ਵਿਚਿ ਇਕ ਮਨਿ ਹੋਇ ਗੁਰ ਜਾਪੁ ਜਪੰਦੇ।
By putting their mind in the unfathomable God through deep concentration, they remember Guru, the God by reciting Jaapu (Ji)

ਸੰਝੈ ਸੋਦਰੁ ਗਾਵਣਾ ਮਨ ਮੇਲੀ ਕਰਿ ਮੇਲਿ ਮਿਲੰਦੇ।
They sing the Sodar in the evening and heartily associate with one another.

ਰਾਤੀ ਕੀਰਤਿ ਸੋਹਿਲਾ ਕਰਿ ਆਰਤੀ ਪਰਸਾਦ ਵੰਡੰਦੇ।
Having recited the Sohila and made supplication at night they distribute sacred food (prasad).

And elsewhere in Pauri 38:

ਸੋਦਰੁ ਆਰਤੀ ਗਾਵੀਐ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਵੇਲੇ ਜਾਪੁ ਉਚਾਰਾ।
Sodar and Arati were sung and in the ambrosial hours Jaapu was recited.

so Sodar Rehras and Arti should both be performed for nitnem, however many gurdwaras seem to ignore this as does sgpc maryada!