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cynthia mahmood who wrote the really gd book Fighting for Faith and Nation: Dialogue with sikh militants was gang raped by the punjab police while she was doing her research in punjab back in the 90s the incident actually motivated her to right the book because she said that if she as a educated journalist can get gang raped like that then imagine what the police does to your average punjabi girl who has no voice.

because we are just culturally very different. sikhs and non punjabi hindus dnt interact much at all. its like we are from 2 different countries, they are culturally quite different. sikhs and punjabi hindus have gd relationship here though. sikhs and non punjabi hindus dnt see each other as the same people

yh council rates are ridiculous the store i worked in i wnt mention the name but the amount of money it made from customers was just enough to pay the rent! no profit made at all. when ever escalators would break down they werent repaired for months bcoz of the cost and the lights were always switched off in the canteen,office, locker rooms etc. smaller businesses just last a couple of months in the shopping centers and then close down. a sheikh from dubai actually had plans to buy our highstreet and shopping center he had planned to make really tall apartments with shops at the bottom but the queen and the windsor lot rejected all the plans! coz windsor castle is really near to us and the highstreet you cant build a building which is really tall because it apparently ruins the view of the castle! the last store i worked in was in the highstreet and from the 3rd floor you could see the castle. he proposed several plans but all were rejected by the people in charge of the castle. and eventually the sheikh got caught up in fraud and was arrested and sent to prison in saudi arabia lol and that was that. our highstreet is just full of poundlands and halal kebab take aways now we even have a islamic book store and islamic ladies cloths shops now!

lol its up again! he makes some interesting points

but if you look at whats happening to the high street in this country then in nxt few years online shopping will completely take over. high streets are dead/dying and one of the reasons is online shopping most retailers are making more money online than they are through their branches. next have closed most of their smaller shops and have now kept just the bigger stores most of these bigger stores are in retail parks, in fact most retailers are shutting their smaller branches. argos have closed their bigger stores and have opened smaller stores in sainsburys etc i think the future might be retail parks other than that everything is gnna be online. and places like oxford street with the massive stores will remain by highstreets in your average town will proabably go. online shopping is now offering lots of things too women buying lots of clothes from online and then getting together with their friends and trying the dresses on as well as drinks/socializing etc is becoming more common retailers know about this and are using it in their advertisements and offering deals.

david ikes in his recent interview spoke about how the aim is for small businesses to close, and head towards cashless society and that we will see more of this after the virus the interview was taken down by youtube the nxt day.

Gandhi believed husband/wife should live like brother and sister Vital Fluid The personal/private life of public figures should not be discussed unless it seriously interferes with their work or poses danger to the nation. But in this article, a few of Gandhi’s sexual eccentricities have been discussed for two reasons: they seriously interfered with India’s freedom movement against the British rule, and, that Gandhi openly wrote about and explored his sexual life. Different people have different sexual fantasies; there is nothing wrong with that – as long as they are not forced on unwilling or minor partners. Most men are visual animals where female physique is involved. Gandhi was no different. He liked women too. He was a celebrity whose company and intimacy many women and girls coveted and fought to get. Sarladevi Chaudhrani (the poet Rabindranath Tagore’s niece whom Gandhi considered his “spiritual wife”); Esther Faering, a Christian missionary from Denmark (Gandhi called “Dear Child”); and Madeleine Slade, a Britisher who joined the Indian freedom movement, (Gandhi’s Indian name for her was Mirabehn) were such examples. But Gandhi had two serious psychological and sexual problems that probably originated from an incident in his early married life: Another serious problem Gandhi dealt with was a result of his philosophy on sex. For him, the purpose of sexual activity was to produce children and should not be indulged for enjoyment. He advised married couple to live as brothers and sisters. He advised all Indians: “It is the duty of every thoughtful Indian not to marry. In case he is helpless in regard to marriage, he should abstain from sexual intercourse with his wife.” Some couples heeded his advice. One of them was Narayan (socialist leader Jayaprakash and his wife Prabhavati, a Sabarmati “graduate”). She took part in Gandhi’s Brahmacharya experiment by sleeping with him. One who didn’t listen to Gandhi’s advice was Vijaya Lakshmi Nehru Pandit (Motilal’s daughter and Jawaharlal’s sister). She was a Hindu Brahmin in love with Syed Mahmood, the Muslim editor of her father’s newspaper. But she could not marry him due to family objections. Mehmood was asked to leave India. Gandhi was invited to the Nehru family home. He came and took her with him to the Sabarmati Ashram and married her off to a wealthy Brahmin Ranjit Sitaram Pandit. She questioned Gandhi’s logic to live as brother and sister. Gandhi was usually very strict, but not with her, as he did not stop her in enjoying her married life. Gandhi considered semen a “vital fluid,” something that was not to be wasted. (Many societies consider preservation of semen as important.) Gandhi believed, “One who conserves his vital fluid acquires unfailing power.” He tried to control his sexual feelings and conducted various “experiments” with young girls and women. These were exercises to control his member from rising in presence of clothed and unclothed women. But male members, i.e. male organs have their own personality and nature, mostly beyond control of their possessors. This was the case with Gandhi. Gandhi always failed. Gandhi-ling always won. Averse to climax Gandhi never achieved the perfect-hood he was longing for. He also did not allow many of his projects: small or large, public or personal to reach their climax or satisfactory completion. One gets the impression Gandhi was averse to achieving climax and zenith of projects, just as he was of achieving personal orgasm, irrespective of whether the projects were political or humanitarian, social or sexual. Here are a few examples: Sushila Nay In 1920, Gandhi had asked Sushila’s mother to gift her 6 year old daughter to him. After finishing her studies, she came to Sabarmati Ashram (commune) in Ahmedabad to serve Gandhi as his personal doctor. Sushila said she slept with Gandhi like she would sleep with her mother. She wrote there were other girls and women also who would physically sleep with Gandhi in the same bed. When Gandhi came under attack for his relation with Sushila Nayar he didn’t deny his relations with her, but defended himself: One wonders why not leave her alone rather than sit there with closed eyes? And if he is there and Sushila knows it, then why shut out that sight? Why not enjoy her beauty and appreciate the aesthetic value of it? It may have enhanced pleasure for both. Why leave it halfway? Why not push it to the peak. (Or was Gandhi getting his kicks from the sound of the soap as he termed it?) Gandhi used to take bath in front of women. The women who slept near him included Amala or Margarete Spiegel (a German Jew, Rajkumari (Princess) Amrit Kaur (a Christian with Sikh roots), Om (daughter of Janakidevi and Jamnalal Bajaj), Bibi Amtus Salam (a Muslim from aristocratic family), and Vasumati Pandit.

Many years later, as Hindu-Muslims riots rocked the southern Noakhali district of the state of Bengal on the eve of India's independence, Gandhi undertook a controversial experiment. He asked his grandniece and ardent devotee, Manu Gandhi, to join him in the bed he slept in. "He was seeking to test, or further test, his conquest of sexual desire," Guha writes. Image copyrightFOX PHOTOS/GETTY IMAGES Image captionSome of Gandhi's closest aides - such as his associate Sushila Ben (L) and his doctor, Sheila Nayar (R) - were women Somehow, according to his biographer, Gandhi felt that the "rise of religious violence was connected to his own failure to become a perfect brahmachari [celibate]". Gandhi, who campaigned all his life for interfaith harmony, was appalled by the violence breaking out between Hindus and Muslims in the run up to independence from Britain. "The connection was a leap of faith, an abdication of reason and perhaps also an expression of egotism. He had come round to the view that the violence around him was in part a product or consequence of the imperfections within him," Guha writes. Gandhi faced a lot of opposition when he told his associates about the "experiment". They warned him it would soil his reputation and that he should abandon it. One associate said it was both "puzzling and indefensible". Another quit working with Gandhi in protest. Guha writes that one needs to look beyond "rationalist or instrumental explanations of why men behave as they do" to understand this strange experiment. For some 40 years by then, Gandhi had been obsessed with celibacy. "Now at the end of his own life, with his dream of an united India in ruins, Gandhi was attributing the imperfections of society to the imperfections of the society's most influential leader, namely himself". A close associate and admirer of Gandhi later wrote to a friend that from a study of the leader's writings, he found that he "represented a hard, puritanical form of self-discipline, something which we usually associate with medieval Christian ascetics or Jain recluses". Image captionGandhi was 13 when he married Kasturba (left), and 38 when he took a vow of celibacy Historian Patrick French has written that although some of Gandhi's unconventional ideas were rooted in ancient Hindu philosophy, "he was more tellingly a figure of the late Victorian age, both in his puritanism, and in his kooky theories about health, diet and communal living". Clearly, Gandhi's attitudes to women were complex and contradictory.

i thought that was just a rumour ? so other than being a pervert he also swung both ways he was a perv he used to experiment by getting young men and women to shower together but tell them not to do anything. he then used to get into bed naked with naked women half his age to see if he can resist it. he also left his dying father who do it with his wife he then became guilty and blamed s3x and his wife its also strange because he saw the hindu/muslim violence in india as a result of his impurity and thats when he start sleeping with his grandniece to purify his thoughts and end the hindu/muslim violence! you cant get any nuttier than that! they could make one of those low budget cheap horror movies about this like the "human centipede" type of movies

i just find it odd how they think the virus can spread in prisons! maybe the prison guards can spread it to the prisoners? in the india news they were saying they might release some of the prisoners. i dnt think they should be released but contact between officers/guards should be limited my cousin was in prison and his 5yr term got cut down to around 4yrs because he behaved b4 they come out for a few months they let them go out of prison for a few hours he used to visit us. they give them duties in prison and pay them cleaning, tidying, cooking etc my cousin was the cook im sure the people they release would have those tags around their ankles to navigate where they are going etc if they are releasing them then psychos should be kept in the prisons like murderers, rapists and pedos while thugs, thieves, dealers etc should be the ones released

sugar is not gd for you at all its an addiction sugar is more addictive than some drugs brown sugar is a better option even here lots of people use gorh in their tea instead of sugar

Jan 2020

most of this info was hidden and suppressed by the politicians who decided to make gandhi into the "father of the nation" indians never saw him as that but it was pushed onto them his birthday became a public holiday, txt books became full of him and every government building had.has a portrait hanging of him it was a carefully/crafted image of him which was made into the father of the nation for whatever reason i dnt know i guess a new independent india needed a figure head for the country in the process all this messed up "experiment with the truth" was hidden and discarded but for many years now stuff has been revealed about this pervert he also was a racist and believed africa should remain under white occupation

This man was a creep and a pervert no Sikh should respect him or his "philosophy" It was no secret that Mohandas Gandhi had an unusual sex life. He spoke constantly of sex and gave detailed, often provocative, instructions to his followers as to how to they might best observe chastity. And his views were not always popular; "abnormal and unnatural" was how the first Prime Minister of independent India, Jawaharlal Nehru, described Gandhi's advice to newlyweds to stay celibate for the sake of their souls. But was there something more complex than a pious plea for chastity at play in Gandhi's beliefs, preachings and even his unusual personal practices (which included, alongside his famed chastity, sleeping naked next to nubile, naked women to test his restraint)? In the course of researching my new book on Gandhi, going through a hundred volumes of his complete works and many tomes of eye-witness material, details became apparent which add up to a more bizarre sexual history. Much of this material was known during his lifetime, but was distorted or suppressed after his death during the process of elevating Gandhi into the "Father of the Nation" Was the Mahatma, in fact, as the pre-independence prime minister of the Indian state of Travancore called him, "a most dangerous, semi-repressed sex maniac"? Gandhi was born in the Indian state of Gujarat and married at 13 in 1883; his wife Kasturba was 14, not early by the standards of Gujarat at that time. The young couple had a normal sex life, sharing a bed in a separate room in his family home, and Kasturba was soon pregnant. Two years later, as his father lay dying, Gandhi left his bedside to have sex with Kasturba. Meanwhile, his father drew his last breath. The young man compounded his grief with guilt that he had not been present, and represented his subsequent revulsion towards "lustful love" as being related to his father's death. However, Gandhi and Kasturba's last child wasn't born until fifteen years later, in 1900. In fact, Gandhi did not develop his censorious attitude to sex (and certainly not to marital sex) until he was in his thirties, while a volunteer in the ambulance corps, assisting the British Empire in its wars in Southern Africa. On long marches in sparsely populated land in the Boer War and the Zulu uprisings, Gandhi considered how he could best "give service" to humanity and decided it must be by embracing poverty and chastity. At the age of 38, in 1906, he took a vow of brahmacharya, which meant living a spiritual life but is normally referred to as chastity, without which such a life is deemed impossible by Hindus. Gandhi found it easy to embrace poverty. It was chastity that eluded him. So he worked out a series of complex rules which meant he could say he was chaste while still engaging in the most explicit sexual conversation, letters and behaviour. With the zeal of the convert, within a year of his vow, he told readers of his newspaper Indian Opinion: "It is the duty of every thoughtful Indian not to marry. In case he is helpless in regard to marriage, he should abstain from sexual intercourse with his wife." Meanwhile, Gandhi was challenging that abstinence in his own way. He set up ashrams in which he began his first "experiments" with sex; boys and girls were to bathe and sleep together, chastely, but were punished for any sexual talk. Men and women were segregated, and Gandhi's advice was that husbands should not be alone with their wives, and, when they felt passion, should take a cold bath. The rules did not, however, apply to him. Sushila Nayar, the attractive sister of Gandhi's secretary, also his personal physician, attended Gandhi from girlhood. She used to sleep and bathe with Gandhi. When challenged, he explained how he ensured decency was not offended. "While she is bathing I keep my eyes tightly shut," he said, "I do not know ... whether she bathes naked or with her underwear on. I can tell from the sound that she uses soap." The provision of such personal services to Gandhi was a much sought-after sign of his favour and aroused jealousy among the ashram inmates. As he grew older (and following Kasturba's death) he was to have more women around him and would oblige women to sleep with him whom – according to his segregated ashram rules – were forbidden to sleep with their own husbands. Gandhi would have women in his bed, engaging in his "experiments" which seem to have been, from a reading of his letters, an exercise in strip-tease or other non-contact sexual activity. Much explicit material has been destroyed but tantalising remarks in Gandhi's letters remain such as: "Vina's sleeping with me might be called an accident. All that can be said is that she slept close to me." One might assume, then, that getting into the spirit of the Gandhian experiment meant something more than just sleeping close to him. It can't, one imagines, can have helped with the "involuntary discharges" which Gandhi complained of experiencing more frequently since his return to India. He had an almost magical belief in the power of semen: "One who conserves his vital fluid acquires unfailing power," he said. Meanwhile, it seemed that challenging times required greater efforts of spiritual fortitude, and for that, more attractive women were required: Sushila, who in 1947 was 33, was now due to be supplanted in the bed of the 77-year-old Gandhi by a woman almost half her age. While in Bengal to see what comfort he could offer in times of inter-communal violence in the run-up to independence, Gandhi called for his 18-year-old grandniece Manu to join him – and sleep with him. "We both may be killed by the Muslims," he told her, "and must put our purity to the ultimate test, so that we know that we are offering the purest of sacrifices, and we should now both start sleeping naked." Such behaviour was no part of the accepted practice of bramacharya. He, by now, described his reinvented concept of a brahmachari as: "One who never has any lustful intention, who, by constant attendance upon God, has become proof against conscious or unconscious emissions, who is capable of lying naked with naked women, however beautiful, without being in any manner whatsoever sexually excited ... who is making daily and steady progress towards God and whose every act is done in pursuance of that end and no other." That is, he could do whatever he wished, so long as there was no apparent "lustful intention". He had effectively redefined the concept of chastity to fit his personal practices. Thus far, his reasoning was spiritual, but in the maelstrom that was India approaching independence he took it upon himself to see his sex experiments as having national importance: "I hold that true service of the country demands this observance," he stated. But while he was becoming bolder in his self-righteousness, Gandhi's behaviour was widely discussed and criticised by family members and leading politicians. Some members of his staff resigned, including two editors of his newspaper who left after refusing to print parts of Gandhi's sermons dealing with his sleeping arrangements. But Gandhi found a way of regarding the objections as a further reason tocontinue. "If I don't let Manu sleep with me, though I regard it as essential that she should," he announced, "wouldn't that be a sign of weakness in me?" Eighteen-year-old Abha, the wife of Gandhi's grandnephew Kanu Gandhi, rejoined Gandhi's entourage in the run-up to independence in 1947 and by the end of August he was sleeping with both Manu and Abha at the same time. When he was assassinated in January 1948, it was with Manu and Abha by his side. Despite her having been his constant companion in his last years, family members, tellingly, removed Manu from the scene. Gandhi had written to his son: "I have asked her to write about her sharing the bed with me," but the protectors of his image were eager to eliminate this element of the great leader's life. Devdas, Gandhi's son, accompanied Manu to Delhi station where he took the opportunity of instructing her to keep quiet. Questioned in the 1970s, Sushila revealingly placed the elevation of this lifestyle to a brahmacharya experiment was a response to criticism of this behaviour. "Later on, when people started asking questions about his physical contact with women – with Manu, with Abha, with me – the idea of brahmacharya experiments was developed ... in the early days, there was no question of calling this a brahmacharya experiment." It seems that Gandhi lived as he wished, and only when challenged did he turn his own preferences into a cosmic system of rewards and benefits. Like many great men, Gandhi made up the rules as he went along. While it was commonly discussed as damaging his reputation when he was alive, Gandhi's sexual behaviour was ignored for a long time after his death. It is only now that we can piece together information for a rounded picture of Gandhi's excessive self-belief in the power of his own sexuality. Tragically for him, he was already being sidelined by the politicians at the time of independence. The preservation of his vital fluid did not keep India intact, and it was the power-brokers of the Congress Party who negotiated the terms of India's freedom. ................................................................................................. The hidden side of Gandhi: 10 startling revelations on the sex life of ‘Father of the Nation’ admin June 13, 2016 8:27 pm Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi, popularly known as Mahatma Gandhi, is one of the most revered personalities in modern India, with his lessons on non-violence still relevant in modern days. Gandhi’s life has acted as a role model to many present day leaders across the world, including the incumbent President of United States of America Barack Obama. Today, he is hailed as the ‘Father of the Nation’ in a country of 1.25 billion plus people. His birth date, October 02, is celebrated as Gandhi Jayanti and is a national holiday. Liquor shops remain shut across the nation on the day, as Gandhi was against consumption of liquor. His homeland, Gujarat, is a ‘dry state’, with complete ban on liquor sale and consumption. His smiling spectacled face image is printed on every currency note India’s central banker prints. Hundreds of roads, schools, colleges, buildings, government schemes etc are named after him by different state and central governments. While Gandhi’s public life remains an inspiration for many, his personal life remains a subject of living room gossip. Not much is known about Gandhi’s personal life, except a few hints on his experiments with sex and sleeping with naked women. However, a book titled ‘Gandhi: Naked Ambition’, published in the year 2012, carries some startling revelations about the personal life of Father of the Nation. The book quotes the pre-independence Prime Minister of the Indian state of Travancore as having called him “a most dangerous, semi-repressed sex maniac”. The book said that it was a known fact that Gandhi had an unusual sex life, and revealed that “much of this (Gandhi’s sex life) material was known during his lifetime, but was distorted or suppressed after his death during the process of elevating Gandhi into the “Father of the Nation”” Here are some excerpts from the book which detail Gandhi’s experiment with sex and women: 1. In 1885, as his father lay dying, Gandhi left his bedside to have sex with Kasturba. Meanwhile, his father drew his last breath. Though, later he felt guilty that he had not been present and displayed revulsion towards “lustful love”. 2. Gandhi set up ashrams in which he began his first “experiments” with sex. Boys and girls were to bathe and sleep together, chastely, but were punished for any sexual talk. Moreover, he segregated the men and women. Gandhi further advised that husbands should not be alone with their wives, and, when they felt passion, should take a cold bath. 3. Sushila Nayar, the attractive sister of Gandhi’s secretary, used to sleep and bathe with Gandhi since girlhood. When challenged, he explained how he ensured decency was not offended. “While she is bathing I keep my eyes tightly shut,” he said, “I do not know … whether she bathes naked or with her underwear on. I can tell from the sound that she uses soap.” 4. Following Kasturba’s death, Mahatma used to have more women around him. He used to oblige women to sleep with him whom – according to his segregated ashram rules – were forbidden to sleep with their own husbands. 5. Much explicit material has been destroyed but tantalising remarks in Gandhi’s letters remain, such as: “Vina’s sleeping with me might be called an accident. All that can be said is that she slept close to me.” 6. Gandhi complained of experiencing “involuntary discharges” more frequently since his return to India. He had an almost magical belief in the power of semen: “One who conserves his vital fluid acquires unfailing power,” he said. 7. In 1947, Sushila (33) was replaced by Gandhi’s 18-year-old grand niece Manu in the bed of the 77-year-old Gandhi. “We both may be killed by the Muslims,” he told her, “and must put our purity to the ultimate test, so that we know that we are offering the purest of sacrifices, and we should now both start sleeping naked.” 8. Gandhi described his reinvented concept of a brahmachari as: “One who never has any lustful intention, who, by constant attendance upon God, has become proof against conscious or unconscious emissions, who is capable of lying naked with naked women, however beautiful, without being in any manner whatsoever sexually excited … who is making daily and steady progress towards God and whose every act is done in pursuance of that end and no other.” 9. Eighteen-year-old Abha, the wife of Gandhi’s grand nephew Kanu Gandhi, rejoined Gandhi’s entourage in freedom struggle in 1947. By the end of August, he was sleeping with both Manu and Abha at the same time. 10. Despite her having been his constant companion in his last years, family members, tellingly, removed Manu from the scene. Gandhi had written to his son: “I have asked her to write about her sharing the bed with me,” but the protectors of his image were eager to eliminate this element of the great leader’s life. Concluding the entire discourse on Gandhi’s personal life the author opined, “It seems that Gandhi lived as he wished, and only when challenged did he turn his own preferences into a cosmic system of rewards and benefits. Like many great men, Gandhi made up the rules as he went along.”

is it true that some people mix chemicals in gorh ? iv heard that UP wale and bihari people in punjab dnt make 100% gorh and that they mix stuff in it? near to my nanke pind they make gorh and its 100% pure gorh

this always makes me laugh thats maa anand sheila osho rajneesh "secretary" defending him on the news ?

In punjab b4 any event or starting anything new they prepare langar for 5 singhs, they do ardas first and then give langar to 5 singhs and then every1 else joins in langar. both side of my families do it on vaisakhi when they gnna harvest the crops also do it when they plant the crops, on weddings, new years, b4 any construction etc people call the granthi from the gurdwara do ardas. prepare langar at home and then get 5 singhs from the pind young or old give them the langar and then every1 joins in and eats langar too iv never seen this in the UK. a few years back when i went my pua from canada was there as well and she organised this at our jaghaa which is obviously not sikhi lol but we got the granthi to do ardas and then 5 singhs from the pind were given the prepared langar 1 didnt turn up so a singh who was working in the fields was called over to have langar and then after serving them we all sat down and had langar and any1 else around working in the fields were given langar too. we also did this after our koti was complete 2 yrs ago got ardas done and langar prepared was given to 5 singhs that were invited

i think this colossal "business" like amazon is whats gnna happen in the future and smaller businesses even things like next, h&m etc are gnna close everything is just slowly being vacuumed by that small group of elites

they mix a lot of stuff in this now so you should buy it only from a trusted place. i wish they put gloves on while making it! the best is when its just taken out and is still wet it is soooo nice lol

Yh a sikh is a combination of all castes/qualities I watched katha on this.

Harvest or religion either way it's a sikh festival! The only people that actually harvest in Punjab are sikhs. It's got nothing to do with hindus.

They dnt know what happens to animals they have no purpose according to them apart from eating them.

Well that's the thing hell breaks loose in jannah. wine and sex outside of marriage is prohibited in islam unless shes som1 you have captured in war but after you die allah rewards you with wine and hooris in jannah there are rivers of wine. The hooris are unlimited. It's basically a rewards for following islam and all the restriction on earth It doesnt say what the women get though as reward lol! This is interesting because they I dont think they got this from christianity. In the gospels a man asked jesus if there is relationships/sex in heaven and jesus said no that there are no vices in heaven and that one becomes like an angel becomes pure which makes more sense! Thing is there is no spiritual progression in islam you just follow some rules and stay within the limit of those rules and then that's it it's about pleasing allah by staying within his restrictions. While with sikhi your supposed to progress spiritually. Why would people who have become like Sants/pure want to go anywhere near what allah promises in Jannah!