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look at how they are pouring alcohol while a dharmik song is being sung they really didn't care in those days. The audience obviously wasnt there for the dharmik songs were they! lol becaoz of the songs they sung, and everyone knew how they couple got together, that was just about enough to draw in crowds.

people in the comments arent very happy haha!

it wasn't a practice it was done by poor people who can't getting married into the same biraadri lol! they still do that in haryana i watched a documentary, not sure if they were jaats but people who financially struggle in haryana they end up buying brides from UP and Bihar. widowed men do that in Punjab as well there was a short movie called kuddesan about it. men who come from poor families in Punjab they still do buy brides from neighboring states. lol its weird

you should hear my mums brothers and cousins after they've thrown down a pint or 2, not very pleasant language. its mainly sikhs here in the west that have become prudish, in fact iv always knows sikhs here to be prudish, thats why when i started going punjab regularly and mingling with the locals it was a huge shock.

jatts make around 20% of punjabs populations thats not much at all, mass migration to the west is mainly from the jatt community and this migration will continue to the point where the vacuum will be filled by another community, perhaps not in the next few decades but definitely will in the future . there already are millions of jatts abroad and that does not include the illegal immigrants. then you clearly dont know what your talking about. do your think any of the above communities you mentioned will get their daughters married to mazbhi sikhs in the pinds? if not they why wont they? coz they too see themselves above the mazbhi sikhs. not too long ago there was video floating about how rajput refused to take amrit from the same bata as mazbhi sikhs, will those same rajput sikhs happily marry their daughters off to mazhbi sikhs? no? why not? im not here defending jats lol my point is the power is gnna eventually pass onto another community, it always has, but is that gnna end the caste system? nope .... also punjab politics is dominated by jatts-khatris i put my money on khatris once again dominating punjab politics and society in the future, not yet but in a few decades time ....

Punjabi society is not and never has been prudish. apart from a few urban sikh circles the vast majority are not and never were prudish. Sex is everywhere in the pinds people do it outdoors in the fields, in the barns in front of the cows, in abandoned buildings, wherever they get a chance. In the old days when the wives used to go to the fields to drop of lunch for their husbands they used to have s3x behind the crops its no secret! iv been told how people did it anally in the old days when no contraception was available. average couple had 7 or 8 kids in the old days you cant be prudish to have that many kids. today, in the pinds sex is openly spoken about, its common to walk through the pind and hear punjabi words for private parts shouted out loud. Men openly talk about having s3x with their wives and laughing and making jokes about it, iv had plenty of unpleasant experiences of having to listen to these conversations. if 2 dogs are shagging men will stand there laughing cracking jokes about private parts. iv had people openly share sexual jokes with me, they use local slang words so initially i dont understand but because they all would be laughing i know what they are talking about. i once was walking though my nanke pind with a elderly man who works for us, we were going to the hatti to buy something and couple of young lads started saying to the elderly man that he should have a drink and that the number 9 will start working. i didnt know what number 9 meant i was only 14 yrs old! i then realized that if you flip number 9 to its side then it resembles and mans genitals! these are regular conversations that you hear on a daily basis! iv had a cousin tell me how if you tie a male goat up behind a wooden pen, that the male goat will break through the wooden pen to mate with the female goat! lol these are the "normal" regular conversations there. there is very little excess to porn yet they pretty much know about all the methods and positions and what not. it actually becomes unbearable the amount of sexual conversations you hear, iv never been in such a sexually driven society. and its always been like that. a lot of pinds also has its illegitimate children, my mums cousin has a illegitimate son with a married chamar woman in the same pind. people there just dont know when to stop. the women are just as bad, iv never had a woman there say this stuff to me but my cousin sister from the UK has told me the many unpleasant conversations shes had to sit through with the women in Punjab. there is absolutely nothing prudish or ever been anything prudish about rural culture in punjab. they are a very sexually driven people with a very high sex drive. charitropakhyan would be very very very popular in the pinds all for the wrong reasons, if some1 introduces charitropakhyan to them it would end up becoming their most favorite bani and recited on a daily basis. they just dont know about it.

A lot of these recent migrants do take the p1ss. I knw this white lady whose friends with a somalian man, his wife was expecting and the white lady asked him how his wife is doing and he said shes flown off to some European country i think it was Sweden! im not sure, but anyway the white lady said why she flown off to there isnt she due to give birth anytime soon and the somali guy said that shes gone there to give birth because you get better benefits there! shes then gnna fly back to the uk after giving birth its mad! Theres a punjabi lady who lives down my road and who was a illegal immigrant and she went to india on a wheelchair pretending shes disabled and she got away with it! and in the process using her "disability" as an excuse shes managed to get her entire family to move over to this country! you really cant make this sh1t up. a lot of this advise is given to them by punjabi lawyers. these people take the p1ss ask those bachare who came over to this country in ships back in the 40s and 50s and worked hard in boiling hot places like foundries and what not, they are the ones who set the foundation for our generations and built the communities and made gurdware. in my area we have a few old bazurgs who were the first sikhs in this area they came over in the 50s

i do like this though lol. but you can see why female singers were not very respected they weren't really looked at with izzat , she is basically the only women there surrounded by hordes of drunk men. this is a dharmik song imagine her singing the usual chamkila lyrics in front of the drunk hordes of villagers! the whole atmosphere at these akharas was very brothel-ish. people never used to let their daughters go and watch these shows, it was considered shameful. Nice song though lol

i guess so, but then again it was a different era and things were done differently. In those days during weddings the bharat used to only have around 10 people in it. I was watching my mama's wedding who got married in 1992 and there were only around 10 people in the whole bharat! apparently kharkus used to threaten the boys side of the family to take less people in the bharat so that they dont become a burden on the girls family, also the police used to rob bharats as well. punjab was like a battle field between the kharkus and police. the whole atmosphere in my mamas wedding movie is eerie and full of fear, its interesting, whenever anyone starts to dance or the dhol gets loud someone runs forwards tells everyone to quiet it down. people are constantly telling each other to keep it quite in the movie. Its interesting watching it because its a reflection of the atmosphere in punjab at the time. chamkila got dealt with how most people were dealt with at the time i guess.

just came back from my local gurdwara and its was so empty! i actually felt sad seeing it like that! langar hall just had 3 men sitting there, normally around mid day we have around 25 bazurgs sitting in the langar hall chatting away socializing, a lot of young people as well but today it was just 3 people! never seen it so quite. There were no bibiyan making rotis so a sevadar singh was making his way upstairs to ask bibiyan to make rotis but were were only 2 ladies present in the whole gurdwara! they both agreed to make food in the kitchen. around this time there are normally around 10 bibiyan cooking away in the kitchen. never seen the gurdwara so empty and quite.

Even if you eliminate jatts from Punjab completely your deluded to think that the caste system will just disappear just like that. Jatts disappear it will only result in another caste taking over. B4 bhamans ruled, after bhamans it became the khatris, after khatris its now jatts, after jatts it will be someone else. You really think a khatri sikh or a saini sikh or a bhaman sikh will get their kids married to mazhbi sikhs? whats a jatts role in that? Here in the UK my cousins friend is a thakan and he was in a relationship with a sikh bhatra girl, the girls father did not approve of the relationships and it took the guy 10 yrs of convincing and then the girls father eventually agreed that too because everyone knew about the relationship. Now imagine is they were in punjab would her father of ever agreed? no My dads pind is dominated by sainis and tarkhans, so how did jatts divide the pind? the singh sabha gurdwara in my dads pind has been ran by a tarkhan family for generations you really think they would ever give a mazhbi sikh a position in that gurdwara?, the current granthi in my friend he's also a body builder too! and also in doaba where im from sainis sikhs who are zamindars and of rajput origin are more dominant that jatts in some parts of doaba, try telling them My point is if jatts lose position in Punjab it will only result in another community taking over. and caste discrimination isnt only limited to jatts! try telling the the khatris, bhamans, sainis to drop their caste! jatts are fast moving abroad in mass numbers, its only a matter of time another caste will take over, just watch ... in 1947 khatri sikhs left punjab and settled in delhi and jatts took over, now jatts are moving abroad and som1 else will take over, discrimination will still be there but from a new dominant caste ....

He actually had been warned many times and that's y he even released a dharmic album but then he went back to singing his usual stuff Singhs had met up with him several times, but he just wouldn't cooperate. And the final thing was what he said on stage in canada.

From todays time it seems bad, but you need to remember this was 1980s/90s Punjab the place was lawless people were dying left right center he just didn't fit in with what was going on considering the situation. So many innocent Sikhs were getting killed and then there he was singing filth on stage how do you think that made the kharkus feel? Who had lost everything

try suggesting tarkhans in the pind to marry their daughters to chamars and see what their reaction is LOL it aint gnna be a pleasant one i tell you that, they definitely wont be making you the bachola her in laws playing a role in the murder was one of the main theories. Having your daughter-inlaw run away with another man to sing on stage that too with a chamar aint considered some small thing in Punjab lol especially punjab in the 80s/90s the amount of shame they faced must of been and probably still is unbearable. And from what iv heard her inlaws were quite influential which would of made it even worse for them. As for other singers getting to kill him. Competition was a big thing. One of his biggest rivals was mohd sadiq and ranjit kaur who by that time were much older but still popular in the 80s. Ranjit kaur had apparently lost her voice, which she did, becoz some1 spiked her drink and it messed her throat up and she could no longer sing mohd sadiq eventually dumped her. Stuff like this was quite common among singers. Singer used to get booked, chamkila was the most booked singer in punjab at the time. Most others singers were pretty much out of work because of him. Punjab in the 70s/80s was very feudal like A lot of these singers were involved in performing for policemen and politicians aswell. Things used to get political. Singers were used at political rallies depending on the police officers present in the audience and the party they supported . The stage was used for all sorts of things

he was killed by Gurdeep Singh Deepa Heranwala who was from a pind named heran which is in Doaba. In Canada chamkila was asked on stage that despite the khalistan movement in full force in Punjab how comes he is still singing his dirty songs and why hasnt any1 stopped him, he replied saying that he was told to stop singing dirty songs several times but then he gave money to members the Sikh student federation and in return they said that he can continue singing. This wasn't true. These people were fighting for the kaum why would they take dirty money from chamkila So Gurdeep Singh Deepa Heranwala killed him. It was less to do with dirty songs but more to do with chamkila saying that he settled it down with the singhs by giving them money, which the kharkus took as a big insult. It terms of dirty songs most other singers were singing dirty songs anyway. Prior to this he had been warned several times and he even released a dharmic album with songs like tera nankana and talwar kalgidhar, which are brilliant songs! but after that he went to his usual songs. Gurdeep singh heranwala had killed many corrupt police officers and politicians who were involved in killing innocent sikhs. Chamkila wasnt a one off kill he had killed many corrupt officers and politicians.

I really like these kind of interviews. He's a very wise man. He says that the greatest honor of his life was when a old Ram came towards him and rested its head on his lap, not many people understand that today ...

Congrats i like the name Amar think it means immortal in sanskrit

Not sure how accurate this is but it seems accurate. You can see that during the 50s and 60s Sikh had among the fastest growing population especially the 60s, this is when sikhs in the pinds were producing 7 or 8 kids. You can see the work of the Christian missionaries during the 60s and 70s the population shot up i guess this is when they started converting the N/E tribal indians to christianity. Some point in the mid 70s the Sikh population rapidly starts going down and by the end we have the lowest growth. This is probably mainly down to all the young sikhs that were killed by the police and governments and the fact that most sikhs only have 2 or 1 kid these days. Sikhs are really bad at making babies now in Punjab and even here, Sikhs are embarrassed to have more than 2 kids, its seen as a laughing matter in punjab if someone has more than 2 kids these days. In Punjab these days couples just have 1 kid. Iv seen people laughing at couples with 4 kids in Punjab! where did this culture of having less kids come from? here in the west people are just having 1 kid as well. iv heard sikhs laughing at couples with more kids. back in they days they would start making making babies at 19 and stop in their late 30s and probably could still produce another 5. Sikh were never shy of making loads of babies or having s3x in the past we weren't that type of culture! my mum told me that she wants at least minimum 3 grandkids from me! lol

One of my favorite sakhis and proof of how powerful true faith in Waheguru Ji is. Bhagat Naamdev ji was dragged out of the mandir by the bhamans and placed at the back of the mandir. Waheguru ji made the entire mandir turn and face bhagat ji Wahegur ji. Proof of this mandir turning is that the Mandir does not face the sun rise like mandirs but faces the direction of the sun set, the khund body of water which is supposed to be located at the front of the mandir is actually at the back and the main gate to the mandir is also at the back. The top part of the mandir was demolished by aurnagzeb but later a marathi queen called illha devi built the upper portion of the mandir which is the white part Singh in the video shows the mandir.

Mr Om Prakash said: 'We have been drinking cow urine for 21 years, we also take bath in cow dung,' said Om Prakash, a person who attended the party

If you get some dried cow pat and stick toof in it, or forget the toof and just set some cow pat on fire in your fireplace then the aroma will fight off the virus.

India has come up with its own solution to tackle the virus https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8112169/Hundreds-Hindus-hold-cow-urine-drinking-party-belief-fight-coronavirus.html Hundreds of Hindus hold a cow urine drinking party in the belief it has the medicinal properties to fight off coronavirus The Akhil Bharat Hindu Mahasabha (All India Hindu Union) hosted party in Delhi Attended by around 200 people and organisers hoped to host similar events Was previously claimed that cow urine and dung can treat coronavirus Coronavirus symptoms: what are they and should you see a doctor? By HARRY HOWARD FOR MAILONLINE PUBLISHED: 15:08, 14 March 2020 | UPDATED: 15:14, 14 March 2020 Hundreds of Hindu worshippers in India hosted a cow urine drinking party on Saturday in the belief that it will ward off cornavirus. There is not yet a vaccine available for the virus, which is sweeping across the world and has so far infected more than 140,000 people, with more than 5,000 deaths. But a group called the Akhil Bharat Hindu Mahasabha (All India Hindu Union) hosted the urine-drinking 'party' on Saturday in Delhi, the country's capital, in the hope of shielding themselves. +15 Hundreds of Hindu worshippers in India hosted a cow urine drinking party on Saturday in the belief that it will ward off cornavirus +15 There is not yet a vaccine available for the virus, which is sweeping across the world and has so far infected more than 140,000 people, with more than 5,000 deaths It was attended by around 200 people and organisers hoped to host similar events elsewhere in India, which has seen 84 cases, with two deaths. 'We have been drinking cow urine for 21 years, we also take bath in cow dung,' said Om Prakash, a person who attended the party. 'We have never felt the need to consume English medicine.' Chakrapani Maharaj, the chief of the All India Hindu Union, posed for photographs as he placed a spoon filled with cow urine near the face of a caricature of the coronavirus. +15 But a group called the Akhil Bharat Hindu Mahasabha (All India Hindu Union) hosted the urine-drinking 'party' on Saturday in Delhi, the country's capital, in the hope of shielding themselves +15 It was attended by around 200 people and organisers hoped to host similar events elsewhere in India, which has seen 87 cases, with two deaths +15 'We have been drinking cow urine for 21 years, we also take bath in cow dung,' said Om Prakash, a person who attended the party +15 'We have never felt the need to consume English medicine', one of the attendees added +15 Photos showed groups of men and women drinking the urine from paper and ceramic cups Share 6.2k shares Photos also showed groups of men and women drinking the urine from paper and ceramic cups. Leaders from Prime Minister Narendra Modi's Hindu nationalist party have previously advocated the use of cow urine as medicine and a cure for cancer. A leader from India's north eastern state of Assam told state lawmakers earlier this month during an assembly session that cow urine and cow dung can be used to treat the coronavirus. On Saturday, the country declared COVID-19 as a 'notified disaster' which would enable the country to provide assistance and spend more funds to fight the pandemic. +15 Leaders from Prime Minister Narendra Modi's Hindu nationalist party have previously advocated the use of cow urine as medicine and a cure for cancer +15 A leader from India's north eastern state of Assam told state lawmakers earlier this month during an assembly session that cow urine and cow dung can be used to treat the coronavirus +15 On Saturday, the country declared COVID-19 as a 'notified disaster' which would enable the country to provide assistance and spend more funds to fight the pandemic +15 Indian women were seen sitting with their legs crossed as they held cups filled with cow urine +15 Ten people in the country who had the virus have recovered fully and the health ministry said that more than 4,000 people who had contact with the confirmed cases are now under surveillance Ten people who had the virus have recovered fully and the health ministry said that more than 4,000 people who had contact with the confirmed cases are under surveillance. Yesterday, the start of the Indian Premier League, the world's most lucrative cricket competition, was postponed from March 29 until April 15 due to the pandemic. Sports events worldwide have been upended by the deadly virus, including the Premier League, this weekend's Formula One Australian Grand Prix as well as PGA Tour golf and NBA basketball. +15 The drinkers of the cow urine hope that it might provide some protection against coronavirus +15 They are hoping to host more events around the country for others to take part +15 The hope that the urine will guard against the virus comes despite there having only been 84 cases in the country 'The Board of Control for Cricket in India has decided to suspend IPL 2020 till 15th April 2020, as a precautionary measure against the ongoing Novel Corona Virus (COVID-19) situation,' the BCCI said in a statement. The two-month Twenty20 competition is estimated to generate more than $11billion (£8.7bn) for the Indian economy and involves cricket's top international stars like England's Ben Stokes, Australia's David Warner and India captain Virat Kohli. Chinese mobile-maker Vivo paid $330million (£261m) to be the top sponsor for 2018-2022 for the league. It involves eight franchises playing 60 matches to packed, raucous stadiums of tens of thousands of spectators - plus cheerleaders - all around India.

Hi bro how old are you and where do you live? are there lots of sikhs in your area? like the poster above try doing seva in the kitchen and langar hall you can meet new sangat like that. Also check if there are any weekly english talks at your local gurdwara or events organized by sikhs in your local area like homeless feeds and other charity work. Normally there are posters of local events up at the gurdwara. Check if your gurdwara does any classes which you might be interested in or simran sessions etc does your your gurdwara have a gym?

they are because there massive banners and billboards up advertising these people, you cant get massive boards like that up without permission from the authorities. Its interesting how the bjp see muslims as a bigger threat than the christian missionaries, and im surprised modi hasn't banned any missionaries yet. areas like kerala, tamail nadu, jharkhand have seen alarming increase in people converting to christianity. Whole of north east was converted to christianity back in 70s 80s.

Yh if its clean it really shouldn't be a problem but idnno