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On 1/11/2022 at 2:42 PM, jkvlondon said:

ghulami bhes of Patiala shahi pagg and fixo tied beard 

Didn’t some of the Kharkus wear the Shahi pagg?

On 1/8/2022 at 8:25 PM, Jassu said:

 I love the name Simran

Too common

15 hours ago, Guest Guest girl said:

Hi, 

I'm not an Amritdhari but I want to cover my head with a scarf. Is this okay? 

Sure

8 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

Hukam of Waheguru is a highly subjective topic and not that easy to understand by human beings.

If 1984 was hukam then why chaupai sahib says that waheguru ji gets sad when saints experience dukh.

Santan dukh paye te dukhi

Even Guru Sahib asked Vaheguru why he let Babur come and do everything. Nothing is not Hukam, Vaheguru does good and bad in the world. 
 

Guru Sahib’s shaheedi is a story about accepting Hukam, “Tera Kiya Meeta Laagye”.

Just now, dharamyudh said:

Angad.... Interesting

I don’t get what the picture is for? 2 demons trying to fight Hanuman?

23 minutes ago, 5aaban said:

I made a list of some names based off historical Sikhs such as the Chali Mukte and Sikh royalty. Some of these names can be used for both girls and boys.  The names are derived from Sanskrit and Persian, some also have their own Punjabi touch to it. 

Male

Jagat, Tarsem, Tegh, Hamir, Hari, Mangal, Baghel, Gurbaksh, Mehar, Naudh, Jujhar, Shabeg, Pargat, Beant, Mokham, Jagir, Zorawar, Santokh, Bakshish, Nihal, Fateh, Dilbagh, Mann, Nidhan, Bhag, Dyal, Khushal, Tara, Gulab, Karam, Gurdas, Kirt, Joga, Mahan, Sumer, Sultan, Phula, Lachman, Nirmal, Duleep, Ishar, Jassa, Badar, Arjan, Jai, Kapur, Angad, Jawahar, Bhagat, Udham, Kartar, Tahil, Randhir, Chet, Roshan 

Female 

Sada, Kaulan, Jeevan, Raj, Jind, Chand, Mahtab, Bhani, Bakht, Datar, Desan, Sunder, Lali, Amar, Roop, Gulab, Upkar, Dalair 

 

 

 

Noice

30 minutes ago, Jai Tegang! said:

The reason for Satguru Guru Nanak Dev Ji coming to this world is also the unbearable sins of the world. I'm sure anit-sikhs would scoff at this assertion. There is probably a lot that goes on behind the scenes with keeping humanity from going extinct. The only thing Gyani Thakur Singh did is share this stuff out in the open, which he perhaps should not do because people are just not receptive of anything beyond their understanding.

We need to respect and value our Mahapurkhs along with our Soormay. They both are important for a balanced Panth.

Sikhs today are too focused on not sounding like other religions, (in this case Christianity), so I’d assume that’s why many Sikhs are too afraid to say something like Guru Sahib came to take weight of sins on earth. 

41 minutes ago, SikhKosh said:

Be easy on the girl guys. We all started our journey somewhere, it seems she is genuinely trying to learn.

Some amritdharis believe in keeping bibek, i.e., only eating food prepared by other amritdharis. Mostly AKJ, Nihangs and some Taksalis. Altough I've personally seen other Gursikhs, non Jatha aligned, also practise it. One example I've seen is Jathedar Ranjit Singh. These people do thus not eat out because you can not be sure who cooked the food and under what circumstances.

This practise can seem harsh and discriminatory to some. It seems that historically the amritdhari-sahajdhari divide was not as problematic prior to the Singh Sabha movement. Some congregations were led by Sahajdharis even after the 'creation' of the Khalsa [refer to Guru Gobind Singhs Hukamnamas to one head of a congregation in the early 1700s who was Sahajdhari], so it is only natural to assume that Sahajdharis would cook langar as well, food which was partaken by the Khalsa and non Khalsa alike.

Other Singhs go even further and keep 'sarbloh' bibek, which means only cooking and eating in sarbloh (all iron) utensils. While I feel there may be some benefits to eating in these (like wearing a sarbloh kara vs steel kara), it would be narrow minded to limit Sikhi to eating in sarbloh utensils or not. Some of these people even refuse to partake in langar if it is not served in sarbloh utensils. Bhai Kahan Singh Nabha criticized this practise in his book Gurmat Martand and he said this is a practise which has crept into Sikhi from Vaishno Matt.

Historically, Rahitnamas (most of whom are unauthentic, tampered with or written many decades after the Guru by the way) do mention that Sikhs should only eat food cooked by other Sikhs though. They also put an emphasis on never leaving food unattended (so it would not be poisoned by enemies etc). Not eating jootha and so on. But as I always say, we should only take the things from Rahitnamas which concords with Gurbani and bibek buddh (as in 'discerning intellect').

There are more good things than bad things in this practise, but it becomes problematic when it creates division and hierarchy in an already divided nation.

I believe that Bibek is Gurmat, but I don’t actually do it.

7 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

I don't know how this happens...you I trust. It's real bro. Hold on. 

Only AKJ, Taksalis, and Nihangs know about Bibek. Rest of the Panth doesn’t know. 

9 minutes ago, Jassu said:

Ok but how many women do you think like fukre and brash men these days. They get easily swayed by Pakistani men, they have a way with words

Punjabis shouldn’t be weak cunning types. 

3 minutes ago, Jassu said:

Muslim people are really good with words and false flattery, they are more cunning. Meanwhile our lot are brash and fukre and usually say it it how it is. Women in east punjab are more cunning than the men. Chalak

Better to be fukre than chalak. 

7 minutes ago, Jassu said:

Wow lol there are literally around 10 active male users in this place and they’re all like 40+ years old or already married. Don’t worry gurjant no one is looking for you 

I'm only a few months older than you bruh

25 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

I agree a saint doing Ardaas to help bring rain is within the boundaries of gurmat.

But if the same saint tells people that I sat crosslegged in my room for 10 days to bring rain for you people sounds Haume to me.

Rest Guru Sahib knows.

Who is Sant and who is pakahandi, just Vaheguru knows.

9 minutes ago, 5aaban said:

It's people from this generation that tried to stop my growing interest in Sikh/Punjabi history, they found discussions on it "boring" and preferred to gossip instead. 

I observed they're more materialistic than the grandparents generation and pass on the "watered down" version of Sikhi to the children which led to the present generation. 

The way to kill a generation, is to kill anyone who even has the potential to be great.

Just now, 5aaban said:

I agree, we're becoming more panthic. I know much more about Sikhi and Sikh history than people from my parent's generation. I call their generation a "lost" one because after our grandparents, their generation lagged behind on Sikhi. 

I know for a lot of people from the 80s generation; they would be warned not to get too into Sikhi, anyone who was wearing a pagh or even a Kara would get picked up and be missing forever. 

25 minutes ago, SikhKosh said:

So you agree that kesh is not the problem; personality, your physical traits (well trained body vs dad bod) and the way you carry yourself are.
Anyhow, more turbaned celebrities normalized wearing a turban for many women. A lot of my cousins have dated Hindus and Muslim women who were avid Punjabi song fans and dreamed of being with Punjabi Sardars. I don't remember such things happening two decades back. In fact most people would cut their hair before going into the entertainment industry.

No, appearance also matters and Kesh is a part of that. But we’d need to improve our other qualities, in terms of appearance as well.

28 minutes ago, SikhKosh said:

You're right.
But from what I see on social media and my surroundings, women are generally more receptive to the Sikhi saroop than lets say 15 years ago. 
No matter how much you criticize them, its mostly Punjabi songs (and movies partially) that popularized turbaned Sardars even among non Sikh women. And it is not only the trim Singhs because even people with saroop like Bir Singh have become popular.

I'll just say that if someone like Dwayne Johnson became Sikh and kept Kesh and pagh, he'd still get women.

57 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

@Jassu is it just me or does your prifle pic, combined with your footer pic, make it look like you want attention from Singhs bad?

Have you said anything Gurmat related to date? Mainly you just come across as thirst trappin hard on @dallysingh101

I thought you were going to calm down when she said that line of Gurbani you wanted her to say?

54 minutes ago, Jassu said:

He is obsessed with the wrong things: grooming & anti-jattism.  

Casteism and grooming are both bad, idk what you are talking about.

1 minute ago, GurjantGnostic said:

We all know who the devils are. Foreign. White and red. 

I thought you were white?

1 hour ago, PuzzledToo said:

Not only become agents, these old fat babas have developed a habit of kissing young women especially when they're overseas.

You talking about Kamalroop?

1 hour ago, Jassu said:

Guys, everyone is racist. It's normal to prefer people of our own culture/ethnicity/heritage. lol. I can't really blame white people for being closet racists knowing we are racist to our own people sometimes, but when it becomes physical that's when I find it disgusting. Actually I think white people are lowkey the least racist around. I found East Asians and blacks far more racist.

If East Asians barely attack anyone; their racism impacts nobody. If whites are actually using racism to justify attacking people; then their racism holds actual weight in the world. By physical violence, it is safer to be a black person in Japan, Korea, and China, then it is to be an Indian in America, UK, and Canada. 

2 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

1984 happened due to sinful karma of Indian govt.

Natural disasters are totally under Waheguru's hukam I feel.

Didn't Guru Sahib say it was Hukam that he sat on a burning cauldron? We can have karma but not Guru Sahib.