nirgun

was his full name Sant Harchand Singh Longowal? Is he still alive? http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt...DUTF-8%26sa%3DG

but is there any proof of this? Everyone's so quick to call certain "sikhs" evil and dumb and fat but we don't even know if their information is 100% true... Basically though, you're saying he was originally FOR/WITH the khalistani movement but became a traitor in the end? and also do you know more about the pact he signed that "gave away everything" of the singhs..? Thanks for all the info though..

There's a picture I have (too large to upload) and it's of a younger Singh yelling into a microphone and some of the sangat is looking up at him in surprise. At the bottom in punjabi it says that the Singh took the mic from "sant longoval" and said that "we don't need this type of 'buddi' leadership" The Singh looked quite angry... So I was wondering where that picture could've been dated from or what the Singh Ji was so mad about

Can someone give me more info on Longoval or "Sant Longoval" as some people have said? I remember hearing about him a while ago but I forgot everything. I mean like detailed info please if anyone can thanks!

Yes kara. It's quite surprising, I've never seen you post anywhere except for saint soldiers. Why so? You should begin that in the literature section.

yes japmans, but we should also see the intentions behind what he wrote. I've seen better articles anyways (sorry). . . I know I couldn't write well myself though. I suck! But other Gursikhs have written better things without having hidden intentions/ulterior motives. Plus japmans, his comment on women was a bit strange. Quite obviously he's directing it towards the AKJ or the rest of "us" who believe that bibis should keep hair and should try to (or definitely should?) wear keskis. To the person who mentioned lalleshvari again, wow. Someone needs to slap him/her a good one But of course I'm joking. Violence is not the answer. :| Umm. :..: I'm tired of such stupid comments. I wonder what a person like lalleshvari would do if Mata Bhag Kaur walked into the room (run away, maybe)?

Thats a better article than I could probably ever write but I agree with Manjot Singh. I wonder what Kamalroop means here, or who he seems to be referring to

The person who posted that original post was most probably NOT a Gursikh. It was someone undercover who was setting this whole thing up. MODERATORS you need to be more aware of what people are posting, I hope you lot aren't sleeping :T: You let some pretty weird posts go by even though you guys know that the people writing them are not Gursikhs. There are probably lots of anti-Gursikh people who have come on this site, it could be anyone - could be nangs, agents, corrupt newspaper writers, etc. Anyone could sign up for an account here and post senseless things and attempt to make Sikhs look bad. You guys should be more strict and don't allow silly posts - you can also tell when people are plotting something against Sikhi or are preaching anti-gursikh ideals and trying to stir up conflict. Maybe you shouldn't let that happen.

ok. anyways chamkila was a major pervert and alcoholic, and didn't seem to follow sikhi much at all. i was told the akal takht banned people like that from producing "dharmik" albums. :T:

i'm not quite sure what you're trying to ask but whether sant ji returns or not, for me personally, i would still fight for justice....but this doesn't mean that we could ever ever ever let go of or forget sant ji, he woke up a sleeping nation of Sikhs... sant ji is in our hearts forever...

there were hundreds more, unknown....

PARNAAAAAAAAAM!!!!!

Kandola veerji, follow your own advice :TH:

If it's in Hukam, then the Almighty certainly WILL and is GOING TO bless us with Khalistan. You should keep faith in your Guru. We want Sikhs to be safe in India - we want them to be able to freely practice their religion without getting ridiculed or teased, we want all of our Sikh brothers still stuck in Punjab jails to be released, we want those people responsible for the deaths of 200,000 Sikhs to be punished. The Indian government is impossible and completely corrupt. Sikhs MADE Punjab what it is today. You mention how with the creation of Khalistan, we will be tearing up the "brotherhood" of India. WHAT brotherhood? The brotherhood that caused Indian policemen to gang rape our sisters in front of their families and villages? The brotherhood that caused Indian policemen to urinate on our dead brothers bodies? The brotherhood that caused Hindu fanatics to burn our elderly people alive? The brotherhood that caused Indian soldiers to put a bullet into our Dhan Dhan Dhan Maharaj Sahib Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jeeo? The brotherhood that caused Indian soldiers to bombarde our most holy shrine and laugh at the bullet holes and dusty, broken down remains of Guru Arjan Dev Ji's harmandar? The brotherhood that Indian soldiers felt when they LAUGHED at the bloodied, muddy, waters of Guru Ram Daas Ji's pavitar Amrit Sarovar, full of dead bodies floating like fish? I guess that's how India defines brotherhood! Hindus and Muslims already got their own lands - didn't they already tear up the "brotherhood?" :T: So why do WE have to be the ones preserving it? Why should we be slaves living in Hindustan, being denied our rights? Barely any of the people responsible for 1984 were punished. What kind of justice is that? :| India claims to be so wonderful and respectful of her citizens, but she murders them instead. Our culture is being broken apart because of Bollywood, Hindu movies, and fundamentalist, ethnocentric, egotistical Hindu fanatic terrorist groups like the RSS, who are going into Punjabi villages and attempting to drill Hinduism into the minds of our Sikh children. They try to make our children speak Hindi, some of them have even put Hinduism into the school curriculum so children are required to learn about Hinduism and Hindu history, and be tested on it. :T: Why??? In India's media, Sikhs are always portrayed as overweight, ugly, overly affectionate uneducated drunks who run after women half their age. When young Sikhs see this kind of garbage ALL AROUND THEM (in all Hindu movies, in all serials/soap operas/shows on Television, on TV and magazine commercials - everywhere), do they gain more pride about the turbans on their heads? NO. They become ashamed. They want to become like Hrithik Roshan and Akshay Kumar and all these Hindu actors that are always portrayed as being noble and brave. Little does the world know, our Singhs could make those fairytale actors piss in their pants and cry themselves to sleep at night. It's a matter of justice and freedom!!! Parnaam Shaheeda Nu. We will never forget their sacrifices, and will live, breathe, and die with our sweet Guru and our sweet Shaheeds in mind, always and forever willing to avenge their sacrifices and live for the perseverence of JUSTICE, TRUTH, and FREEDOM. vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

Wow navjot singh, that is pretty strange. Maybe you could post a picture of yourself and we can compare! :wub: :nihungsmile:

anyone?

SarabLoh bhajee can you please share the information with everyone? I really really want to learn more about this and hear if it's true or not. PLEASE...

:wub: @ :H:

He's an AMAZING Gursikh ~ words can't describe him. He's awesome. So so humble and sweet and cute and strong and beautiful and amazing.

Yes, I've also heard about some scary predictions that Guru Gobind Singh Ji supposedly wrote down somewhere, maybe they're in the Sarbloh Granth? I've heard that Guru Jee predicted 1984 and mentioned how Indira Gandhi is going to cause havoc to Sikhs (but he didn't mention her name, he just referred to her somehow, I think he referred to her as the "evil widow" or something like that). I was told that Guru ji supposedly predicted 1984 and compared it to a horse, saying that there would be so much blood shed, that there would be a river of blood all the way up to the horse's ankles. The scary thing is, according to these predicitions, Guru ji supposedly said that a much harder time is going to come up after 1984 (which means it must be coming soon , where there will be SO MUCH more blood shed for Sikhs, that the river of blood will be up to the horse's stomach. :| (that's a lot of blood)... So basically it is saying that pretty soon (after the 1984 attacks) the Sikh Panth will have to face another major holocaust or genocide, where there will be unbelievable amounts of blood shed and lives lost. (I guess that means it's coming up soon, so we should be prepared for anything). Maybe we all WILL be able to obtain shaheedi!!! :T: :wub: I am not 100% sure of these "predictions", but this is just what I have been told. I do not know whether these are the same "predicitions" that are in the Sarbloh Granth. Can someone please clarify??? It would be good for the sangat to know!

Gursikh bhujangi singhs and singhnees of Shamsher Bahadur Dasmesh Pita Ji would never commit injustices. What injustices are you talking about jee? It's not an injustice to use the sword, especially against someone like Indhira Gandhi who was responsible for slaughtering tens of thousands of innocent men, women, youth, and children.

It alarms and saddens me that no one replied. The beautiful, mahaan Shaheed Singh who'se picture is pasted above gave his head for the Khalsa Panth, yet we do not even know about his jeevani. So many Gursikhs gave up their lives to protect and preserve the Khalsa Panth and keep Sikhi strong, yet we are such horrible Sikhs today - we do not even acknowledge these Shaheeds. PLEASE, SOMEONE, FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THESE MYSTERIOUS YET AMAZING SHAHEED SINGHS THAT WE DO NOT KNOW ABOUT! PLEASE SOMEONE TRY TO GATHER THIS KNOWLEDGE SOMEHOW, AND ENLIGHTEN THE SANGAT! When you forget about your history and those who DIED for you, you have nothing left. I am ashamed, with myself at least. :wub: :homer

GurSa, yes, some of them do that. Some of them do remove their hair, eyebrows, etc. Some wear sleeveless shirts but have no underarm hair - they remove it. Not all of them do that, though. there is no such thing. All hair is blessed. I believe the more hair, the more blessed. :wub:

OH I was so shocked! Who made it then??

http://www.sikhvision.com/gallery/viewphot...0Ranjit%20Singh ????