Tarrandeep Kaur

Erm how about approaching the gursikhs, and asking them what made them choose to wear baana, im sure they will be more than happy to answer your questions :TH:

tut tut

ok im one of the narrow minded people. Personally i would say not to go, as sikhs we should keep sangat of gursikhs, and not go to places which would prevent us from japping naam. The atmosphere of songs meat and dancing, these are the kind of things we should stay away from. Its ur decison, but jus think while ur at this prom, imagine ur father guru gobind singh jee mahraj lookin at u, would you be ashamed as to were you are at that moment? Mahraj knows and sees all. japp naam be happy Vahigurooooo why would you regret not going after, we have a chance to japp naam in this world, dont waste time indulgin in maya sorry if i sed nefink rong, please correct me if i have :D

oh dearie dearie me lets all take a long nice deeep breath ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh now, prem and rupinder singh have some fine points, and are just using their brains, whats rong with that? the news of a sikh boys hair being forcefully cut against his will did obviously cause me great distress. BUT the first thing we should do is think. What is going to help THE BOY the most, not how people think sikhs look. i think that most importantly is paath and ardaas to maharaaj for the poor young boy. OK i completely understand the view that we should not just sit on our backsides, and do something actively to combat this disgusting type of racism, and in that view the protest was defeinatly a good thing. but to say, those hu didnt come, bla bla bla. no excuse, bla bla bla how do you know that some people hu didnt come werent praying all day for the young boy? its not up to us condem those who didnt go as weak, or whatever. as long as youve got a good reason and intetnion behind ur actions i tihnk thats what counts, whether you protest all over the country (which i think is great) or do paath or ardaas (which i think is great 2) now please stop with the angry comments, and admin after not letting countless of my posts up, im suprised you let up a post containing a swear word "we re warriors, prem and rupinder r just batty mans." that is not a good attitude amarjeet singh

does it matter wich keertanis are coming??

the kirtan was wikedd!! :TH: vahiguroo vahiguroo

those hu still try to justify manmat with the excuse of "its true love" bla bla, are truly misguided. there is only one true love and that is the love with vahiguru, all other love is temporary kis naal keechai dosti sabh jag chalanhaar

wich country, place? wats her full first name?

hahahahahahahahaha ur religious.... and u have a girlfreind hahahahahahahahahahhahaha

that is completely unacceptable some of these youth who think sikhi is all about being a jatt, battering pakis, or wearing things with a khanda on, (now in their hair) have completely lost it. they need to be educated soon. Its a joke

how bout my name; tarandeepkaur

how is it brahminism by not accepting food from non amritdharis. we should keep sangat of, eat from amritdharees. why is this hard for some people to grasp?

Vahigurujikakhalsa Vahigurujikifateh Paaji/Penji, there is no need to take the mick is there? R u achieving any thing by mocking the rehit of sarbloh bibek. Someone wants some advice, as sangat we should try to help him, if you have nothing useful to say then pls, i do benti, its best to not anything at all. Errm to the original poster, medicine is best prevented, bcos bibek involves consuming raw ingredients, and medincine isnt considered as 'bibek'. howvever if your in a lot of pain and it cant be prevented, then i suppose its not that bad. best thing to do is just naam jap, mahraj will take away your pains. Second question u asked, erm this is a debatable issue lol, evry one has there personal opinions. Basically milk from the shop should be avoided and it would be better if you, or an amritdhari sikh could obtain the milk yourself before it has been handled. However it can be very difficult in obtaining milk in this way, so alot of bibeki's just boil the milk and do naam simran to make it pavitr. Obtaining it yourself, is the best way though. japp naam, mahraj will do kirpaa to bless you with this rehit, as we can not do it alone. gurrroooo I hope this helps, i am sorry if i have said anything wrong, please forgive me!! Vahiguroooooo vahigurooooo Vahigurujikakhalsa Vahigurujikifateh

Gurfateh sangat jee! Im not bothered with the negative posts, becuase im not forcin my views on anyone, and if it seems like that, then i ask for sangats forgiveness. I'm glad, bcause i have had a few singhnia PMing me wanting advice and knowing more and tht, this is what i wanted, awareness. Look how many views this topic has had, and i know quite a few people r goin to rethink the way they speak to opposite gender. Ok we've said enoguh on this topic now. We really are wasting time, that goes for me mainly. So please, no more replies. Sorry if i have made mistakes. Vahiguru ji ka khalsa Vahiguru ji ki fateh

Thats disgustin, i feel sick to think a human being could do such a thing to another human being :D

where does it say in gurbani about 5 kakaars???

yes, assume if the post is ended with baba amarjeet singh that maha moorakhs brother is making the post extra feelings does not necessarily mean kaam. stop assuming things. in fact i was refering to attachment, growing close to the other perosn, but of course i am not going to deny that kaam could become a factor because it could. i once again say to you, that no one is saying dont talk to opposite gender because all of a sudden ull be over run with kaam. they r saying tht with talking comes freindship, with freindship comes closeness, if you get close to someone of the opposite gender there are obvious problems. maybe not obvious to those blinded like yourselves. from baba amarjeet singh

can you people not read???? where did anyone say tht we shudnt talk to opposite gneder bcos it will giv is kaam??!?!?!?!?! STOP MAKING UP THINGS "talkin to opposite sex arouses kaam" WHERE DID SOME1 SAY THT stop making up rubbish what was said tht talking to opposite gender freely has the potential to build up a relationship between those two people and this is dangerous as it could lead to further feelings. is this SO HARD for you to understand?????? STOP MAKING THINGS UP AND REPLY TO WHAT HAS ACTAUULY BEEN SAID MR s133k_s1kh. from BABA amarjeet singh

Sangat Jee There has been quite a few posts regarding this issue, i do not want to make this into a long thread, so it would be better if no-one replies, as we are wasting time if we are to keep debating about this issue, when we could be using our time more wisely. However, i would like to bring to your attention, this article which was written by a gursikh. Please take time to read it and taken on aboard the advice that has been given. Thank You Vahiguru ji ka khalsa Vahiguru ji ki fateh --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Waheguroo ji ka khalsa, waheguroo ji ki fathe Piyari sangat jio, daas has a little request to my maan (mind) and to your feet. Recently daas sent a message around saying that singhs and singhnia can talk but only about Sikhi and it does not matter if it’s for hours. Sadly I was very wrong; I ask forgiveness from the sangat. Singhs and Singhnia should have no contact with each other, but putting this in mind one should see each other as brother and sisters. We should only say the Gurus Fathe to each other and that is about it, there should not be any other questions. Asking questions after the Fathe i.e. how are you doing? What you been up to? Then it will only lead to a conversation, which we should not get in to. If the Singhni or Singh has a problem then it will be best to go to the same gender as them. If we need to tell the other person about a program, then ask their sister to tell them or send a quick email across to the sangat. Daas doesn’t want to use examples but I think we won’t learn until we realise what our mistake is. Daas had a situation where some bibia got together and there was a Singh coming from a far distance to chill out with the bibia, sorry to say but this is totally MANMAT. If we do that then we are just falling in to the trap of kaam, it does not mater how old that Singh is or who he is. We also go on msn talking to the opposite gender as if it was ok. It is not ok! we need change this; it will only cause our Kaam to strike us. If moni bibi wants to learn about sikhi then give them websites to look at, get them to come forums give them your sister’s number. There is no need for a Singh to talk to a bibia even if it is on sikhi, because Gursikhs souls are very attractive. Even if we don’t have any feelings or intentions for the other gender, there soul will get attracted to yours; they then have a feeling but don’t know what it is so they will just assume it’s the kaami feeling. The same as we are attracted to the elder gurikhs when we see them at rensbhais. Bhai Anokh Singh Babbar NEVER looked at a bibi in to her eyes when talking to one; he would answer the question then walk away. These days we eye each other up at keertan programs in front of our Guru Granth Sahib ji. Singhs at those times would walk in the streets and when a bibi comes to sight they would put there heads down, these days we see a bibi from a distance we start to run towards her. A bibi who is still around and in Birmingham was adopted by Bhai Randheer Singh, she told the gursikhs that her brother had to ask permission from Bhai Randheer Singh if she could come along with her brother to the markets. Waheguroo These days we phone other Gurikhs daughters and ask then direct if they want to go to the Birmingham town centre with them. It has gone really bad and this the time of Kaljug, people have started to look for there wife and husband to be. Kaljug is standing on one leg and things will get worse and only the true Naam Abhiyaasis will be able to rise the rest will only fall in to the trap. Look we find it ok to go out with the opposite gender so when we have kids we will think its ok for our kids to go out with a male or female, later on when our kids have there own family it will be ok for there children to go out with there boyfriends and girlfriends. That’s how bad it will get and to some extent it has already reached that stage. Oh Waheguroo protect us, we are only kids we will fall in to the 5 chors traps, and we need your arm to get out of these traps that we fall in to. Daas begs the sangat and his mind to stop this manmat thinking, so that we can become more like the chardikala puraatan Gursikhs. Daas knows he has made mistakes, please daas asks forgiveness from the sangat Daas will carry on to make mistakes so please tell me if I ever go wrong. As Sikhs we have a lot to learn we can get there together. Waheguroo ji ka khalsa, waheguroo ji ki fathe! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

i really like gitikas post.alot. guys stop getting trapped in brahmanism and rituals.rehat.hmm idont really know how to start this post. just that im fed up with bibek this, bana this, sarabloh this... i liked gitikas post becuase it emphasised the teachings of gurunank dev ji and our other belssed guru's. what is the need to look at anyone else...our gurus are just the most amazing examples of gursikhi...and we go around quoting others...as if the inspirational lifsstyle of our guru's isnt enough.i mean..whats that about? im sure that gurunanakdevji didnt go around saying.wel all have to wear bana, we all have to eat out of sarbloh, otherwise we havnt given our manns to Vaheguru.i mean..sikhi isnt abotu what we wear, what we eat from..what ajoke.i feel so upset wrtiing thsi post, i feel weve compeltely lost the essence of sikhi.so many of us are bibekis, sarblohi's but how many of us are peace loving people, loving to all of humankind,how many fo us are willign to share with those who ahvnt got as much as ourselves, how many of us practise forgiveness and kindness....if guru nanak dev ji was here, we wouldnt even recognise Him..we'd say--oh your not sarbloh bbieki or anything so you cant be part of our jatha...dotn worry when we get to dharamraj we'l suffer the consequences of our actions...our falsehood... if the questions your asking before amrit are whetehr we shoudl eat out of sarbloh, then i think youve totally not understood what amrit is.amrit isnt somthing oen takes to become part of a club..when we sacrifice our minds and bodies..it means it means thtat we are ntohing anymore..we are not of any status, we are the dust of everything, everyone..we have no identitiy as an individual, but we take on vaheguru's identity... i mean...we are so proud of all our shastars, our dstar, our 1ft kirpans,our sarabloh...our bibek... but fareedhaa mai bholaavaa pag dhaa math mailee hoe jaae || Fareed, I was worried that my turban might become dirty. gehilaa roohu n jaanee sir bhee mittee khaae ||26|| My thoughtless self did not realize that one day, dust will consume my head as well. ||26|| naam is not just reciting vaheguru with our tongues..naam is beyond anythnig..i wish i knew what naam was...naam is a state of mind, which is beyond anything anyone has expereienced.guruji in one section says naam cannot eb recited with the mouth.its beyound this world.we have to live it..live naam...wow.vaheguroo what are we doing..wasting our lives away.we havnt got a clue abotu anything..and we write all these articles and havnt got a clue about anything.we know nothing, yet we pretedn to be something.the truth will come out, it always comes out.guruji knows everything and everyone inside out, so why are we trying to please and pretend to others.

these feelings you have. its called kaam something a sikh should try to overcome not give in to

Thats wrong stop talking to her your breaking your own rules WHAT, I AM A GIRL!!!

YES PENJI!! THANK YOU SOO MUCH, ONE PERSON FINALLY AGRESS WITH ME. I STARTED A TOPIC IN GENERAL, PLEASE BACK ME UP! LOL.

hmmmm u guys r bein 2 harsh i felt really sorry for them women we hsud b soo lucky that weve got sikhi!