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^not all muslims comply with that - not all would put their hand on their qu'ran and lie - even to a 'kafir'. Taken from Zafarnama...it might not be 100% accurate but you get the gist...it's AIMED at Aurangzeb as the letter is addressed to him too: KE EEN KAR NEK AST DEEN PARVARI CHU YAZDAAN SHANAASI B-JAAN BAR-TARI This act on your part ( of meeting Guru Ji ) will be as per your religion since keeping of word ( given in name of Almighty Himself) is above one’s own life. TURA MAN NADAANAM KE YAZDAAN SHANAAS BAR-AAMAD Z TU KAR-HA DIL KHARAASH I do not know if you believe in the Almighty since you have performed too many deeds that were tyrannical SHANAASID HAMEEHN TU BA YAZDAAN KARIM NA-KHAWAHAD HAMEEN TU B-DAULAT AZEEM The bountiful Almighty knows your (evil) deeds well. He does not want you to continue having this great wealth ( Aurangzeb! Your kingdom is coming to an end by the will of Almighty ). AGAR SAD KURAN RA B-KHORDI KASAM MARA EITBAAR-E NA YAK ZARRA DAM Now if you swear a hundred times on Koran, I will not trust you for a moment even equivalent to a single speck

lol zafarnama was not aimed at ALL muslims but Aurangzeb and his armies and followers - who happened to have sworn on the qu'ran and cheated the Sikhs...don't tar everybody with the same brush

Tried to answer as best as I could

It's probably one of those Punjabi mottos flying around the country I once heard that in Maharaj it's written that if you stick your hand in sesame seeds and pull it out - you'll find thousands stuck to the hand....that's meant to be an idea of how many times a muslim has lied? :6 I've heard that one from many people and they trully believe it is bani??? :rolleyes:

What kind of answer is that? Not very mature Pahji come on! What if GUru Gobind Singh had said, "Stay out of the Moghuls way then, if you don't wanna die!" Where would we be now? :rolleyes:

I could not find that...sounds a bit made up in my honest opinion.... But I DID find this: suAwmI ko igRhu ijau sdw suAwn qjq nhI inq ] suaamee ko grihu jio sadhaa suaan thajath nehee nith || A dog never abandons the home of his master. nwnk ieh ibiD hir Bjau iek min huie iek iciq ]45] naanak eih bidhh har bhajo eik man hue eik chith ||45|| O Nanak, in just the same way, vibrate, and meditate on the Lord, single-mindedly, with one-pointed consciousness. ||45|| This was by Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji 1428 Salok Mehl 9 So dogs cant be that bad eh?

I have a clue about it...can someone explain to me why whilst Vipul Shah chats about these scenes - he's allowing promotion in UK - with half naked girls and singhs? It don't sound like much is being done to me and as usual a petition aint gonna work cos it'll circle the net and be forgotten...we need to get stuck in and take more drastic action. try and get ahold of Mr. Shah through mail or phone?

You lot can come up with as many excuses as you want. There is only 1 Khalsa. We should NOT label ourselves Taksali, AKJ or w/e. It just causes divisions in an already dividing panth...like JustME pehnj said...like caste wasn't a bit enough problem! Now we can't go to a reihnsbhai because our Taksali mates don't agree with it? We can't have Raagmala at an Akhand Paath because AKJ don't agree with it? I can't wear bana because I don't roam around like a REAL Nihang? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Like life isn't hard enough dealing with outer forces trying to divide us... Start growing up, because I'm no Brahmgyani- but I'm pretty sure Guru Ji would be ashamed of us right now. :rolleyes:

You lot are laughing at this lot for standing up for something they firmly believe in... WE should do something about this Singh is Kinng flik...I saw a song advertisement and if I saw Akshay Kumar inthe street I'd kick his head in for it - this film has to be stopped! It's making a mockery of Guru Ji's roop and so indirectly Guru JI!

not all hindus are anti-sikh lol so SOME of them clearly have a right to be peeved byt the film

^WOW! That's so cool!

How can you be sikh and stll be into caste?? Guru Nanak Dev Ji's message ever since being a child was there is no caste...if we can't follow that simple message then surely we aren't Sikhs of Guru Ji?

im in

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pehnji get an account!

we all know the truth...these guys are gonna keep coming up with excuses til they go to their graves...but who'll listen then?

I think you're being naive. My point was that the majority of the panth seems happy to keep caste. How can you get rid of something that a large amount of people want to keep? hey, you gotta start somewhere...If Guru Nanak Dev Ji thought that way where would we be now?...like talking about it is making any difference?

lol never mind

like khalistan_zindabad said, we should set up a stall and have a group talk about the events. A lot of people are either ignorant or unwilling to acknowledge what happened...we should take the 1st steps to do something...You're right Sarpanch we should be ashamed of haveing 300 saal Guru de naal and having dont nothing.

lol arent there any other options?

lol one of those things that 'gangsters' wear a bit like a bandana/ a patka

glad to know you have a lot to say about the matter

lol cant see how i can use a song for selfish means i think its funny, we dont see eachother all day and he walks in singing the same tune as me. cept he sings it better haha

There were no hostages in 84 on any Sikhs part...on the Armys' side yeh I wouldnt have put it past THEM.

lol i get a song in my head and when I sing aloud so does my brother - at the exact same lyrics.... is that telepathy? It happens all the time and only with my lil bro.