Raaj.Karega.Khalsa

ijn nr nwm iqhwro khw ]dwird dust doK qy rhw ]24] jin nar naam thihaaro kehaa ||dhaaridh dhusatt dhokh thae rehaa ||24|| One, who repeats Your Name, Will be relieved from poverty and saved from attacks of foes.

Provide proof to back up what you say and believe in. Atleast mention the Gurbani quote that you're referring to!

All the quotes were either from Dhan Sri Guru Granth Saheb Ji or from Bhai Gurdas Jis Kabit/Vaaraan. With all due respect, it simply does NOT matter what you think. Please provide evidence and proof to back up what you say and believe in.

Strepsils?

Very Beautiful!!!! :respect:

Bhaji, I've read the mool mantar...and have also read the 'arth' done by Sant Giani Kartar Singh ji Bhindranwale. With Maharaaj ji's Kirpa, I'm pretty sure about what I'm saying. Infact, Sant Ji has made it extremely clear, with abundant proof, that Guru Nanak Dev Ji were Akaal Purakh themselves. In the 'steek', about 30 pages are a beautifully detailed explanation of how Guru Nanak Dev Ji were the Avtar of Akaal Purakh Waheguru Himself! Following are the panktian satated as proof in Sant ji's steek: siqgur nwnk dyau hY prmysru soeI] sathigur naanak dhaeo hai paramaesar soee|| Guru Nanak is the True Guru and is God Himself. nwrwiex inj rUip Dir nwQw nwQ snwQ krwieAw] Awip nrwiexu klw Dwir jg mih prvirXau ] joiq rUip hir Awip gurU nwnku khwXau ] joth roop har aap guroo naanak kehaayo || The Embodiment of Light, the Lord Himself is called Guru Nanak. siqguru prmysru myrw ] sathigur paramaesar maeraa || The True Guru is my Transcendent Lord. In Sri Naanak Prakash Granth: "Ekangkaar dhaar nij roopa ll Pragte Satgur Roop Anoopa ll" Anq klw hoie Twkuru ciVAw ] guru prmysru eyku hY sB mih rihAw smwie ] gur paramaesar eaek hai sabh mehi rehiaa samaae || The Guru and the Transcendent Lord are one and the same, pervading and permeating amongst all.

Below are a few quotations from Dhan Sri Guru Granth Saheb Ji and Bhai Gurdas Ji's Vaar/Kabit. guru myrw pwrbRhmu guru BgvMqu ] gur maeraa paarabreham gur bhagava(n)th || My Guru is the Supreme Lord God; the Guru is the Lord God. guru goibMdu goivMdu guru joiq iek duie nwv DrwieAw] gur gobi(n)dh govi(n)dh gur joth eik dhue naav dhharaaeiaa|| Guru is God and God is the Guru, two names are of the same supreme reality. guru prmysru eyko jwxu ] gur paramaesar eaeko jaan || Know that the Guru and the Transcendent Lord are One. guru myrw pwrbRhm prmysuru qw kw ihrdY Dir mn iDAwnu ]1] rhwau ] gur maeraa paarabreham paramaesur thaa kaahiradhai dhhar man dhhiaan ||1|| rehaao || My Guru is the Supreme Lord God, the Transcendent Lord; I enshrine Him within my heart, and meditate on Him within my mind. ||1||Pause|| guru pwrbRhmu prmysru Awip ] gur paarabreham paramaesar aap || The Guru is the Supreme Lord God; He Himself is the Transcendent Lord. gur goivMdu guoivMdu gurU hY nwnk Bydu n BweI ]4]1]8] gur govi(n)dh guovi(n)dh guroo hai naanak bhaedh n bhaaee ||4||1||8|| The Guru is God, and God is the Guru, O Nanak; there is no difference between the two, O Siblings of Destiny. ||4||1||8|| gur goivMdu goivMdu guru hirgoivMdu sdw ivgsMdw] gur govi(n)dh govi(n)dh gur harigovi(n)dh sadhaa vigasa(n)dhaa|| Accepting Guru (Arjan Dev) as God and God as Guru, Hargobind (the Guru) remains ever elated. gur pwrbRhm prmysur AprMpr AlK AByv ]16] gur paarabreham paramaesur apara(n)par alakh abhaev ||16|| The Guru is the Supreme Lord God, the Transcendent Lord, infinite, unseen and unknowable. ||16|| DMnu DMnu siqgur purKu inrMkwir Awkwru bxwieAw] dhha(n)n dhha(n)n sathigur purakh nira(n)kaar aakaar banaaeiaa|| The formless Lord has assumed the form of True Guru, the blessed one. Dnu Dnu siqguru purKu inrMjnu ijqu imil hir nwmu iDAweI ] dhhan dhhan sathigur purakh nira(n)jan jith mil har naam dhhiaaee || Blessed, blessed is the True Guru, the Immaculate, Almighty Lord God; meeting Him, I meditate on the Name of the Lord. pRB siqgur dIn dieAwlw ] prabh sathigur dheen dhaeiaalaa || God, the True Guru, is Merciful to the meek. gur goibMd gopwl gur gur pUrn nwrwiexh ] gur gobi(n)dh gopaal gur gur pooran naaraaeineh || The Guru is the Lord of the Universe; the Guru is the Lord of the world; the Guru is the Perfect Pervading Lord God. guru goibMd gurU gopwl ] gur gobi(n)dh guroo gopaal || The Guru is the Lord of the Universe, the Guru is the Lord of the World. guru gopwlu guru goivMdw ] gur gopaal gur govi(n)dhaa || The Guru is the Lord of the World, the Guru is the Master of the Universe. pwrbRhm prmysr siqgur Awpy krxYhwrw ] paarabreham paramaesar sathigur aapaekaranaihaaraa || The True Guru is the Transcendent Lord, the Supreme Lord God; He Himself is the Creator Lord. guru prmysru guru goivMdu ] gur paramaesar gur govi(n)dh || The Guru is the Supreme Lord God; the Guru is the Lord of the Universe.

I wonder what actually goes on in his head!

ir`iD is`iD Gr mo sB hoeI ]dusæt Cwh CÍY skY n koeI ]23] ridhh sidhh ghar mo sabh hoee ||dhusaatt shhaah shhvai sakai n koee ||23|| Such persons possess all worldly and spiritual pleasures, while sitting in their homes. Enemies cannot touch even their shadow.

To be fairly honest, I don't believe it was an honest mistake. One can't have had Amrit recently, before getting Head Granthi Singh's sewa. He's bound to have read Rehraas Saheb for years now! It's supposed to be second nature by now!! Try and imagine what happened. Bhai Saheb says,"Kaho Naanak Ham neech karamma ll Saran pare ki rakhaho sarma ll". And then right after that...what did he start with? "Raamkali mahalla teeja"? How is it possible? The brain should simply start going BEEP BEEP! something's wrong! It doesn't sound right. Well, if one can't do Rehraas Saheb without forgetting such a big part of it...one isn't deserving of the sewa of Head Granthi of Sachkhand Sri Harmandar Saheb.

jy AisDuj qv srnI pry ]iqn ky dusæt duiKq hÍY mry ] jae asidhhuj thav saranee parae ||thin kae dhusaatt dhukhith hvai marae || There are men who seek Your shelter, There enemies meet miserable deaths.

Waheguru! It's shocking to read what humans can be capable of! Waheguruji!

Ab r`Cw myrI qum kro ]is`K aubwir Ais`K sMGro ] ab raashhaa maeree thum karo ||skh oubaar askh sa(n)gharo || O God give me Your protection now. Protect my disciples and destroy my foes.

khUM PUl rwjw hÍY bYTw ]khUM ismit iBXo sMkr iekYTw ] kehoo fool raajaa hvai bait(h)aa ||kehoo simatt bhiyo sa(n)kar eikait(h)aa || Sometimes God sits joyfully as an Emperor, Sometimes God sits as a Yogi, detached from all.

Did 'your' Sant-friend ji tell you? :buzzbee:

Haven't listened to gaane and stuff for quite a while, but this thread has got me addicted to coke studio. Anyways, this is the one that's touched me so far. This one's cool too!

Makes me really wonder about the ethical part of it all!!! :mellow2:

Bhai Saheb, only you both can decide what your attitude for showing affection towards each other is supposed to be like. Being intimate or showing affection isn't planned. They're just emotions. And they're purely instinctive! Nobody tells a baby to cling onto the mother for love or protection. S/he just knows! It's all instinctive! Let me give a little example. When my baby was about a month old, the health visitor had come for a check-up. She held him in one hand...and asked me to get him to hold onto my fingers with his hands. She dropped him a little, and caught him with the other hand. As soon as my baby was dropped a bit, he clutched tightly onto my fingers that he had held. It was all done to check some survival instinct. But it was absolutely astounding that a month old baby KNEW to do that!

I don't think your Kanga getting wet should matter much. If you take a shower, your Kanga is in your Kes beneath your keski. Change your Keski after your shower, if wet. I would recommend a separate gatra and Kirpan for ishnaan... as getting your kirpan wet, damages the sheath from the inside...and after some time the kirpan will not fit in it tightly enough. Whilst Kesi-ishnaan, (if under the shower) tie the gatra onto your waist. If your Kanga has a long looped 'dori' (thick thread?)...you can wear it on your neck. If you've got no dori on it...attach the Kanga onto your gatra...with the gatra looping through the teeth of the Kanga. Like I said, having a separate Gatra-Kirpan for your ishnaan is beneficial. After Kesi Ishnaan...you can leave that gatra to dry and put on the other one. Do take care, that if the Kirpan is wet, take it out of the sheath and let them both dry up.

Where would the money come from? Will it be from sangat's daswandh? If the sangat gave their daswandh directly to the organisations they'd wish to support, they can do it as per their own will. I'm assuming that if there was such a bank...it would control where the money went. (or the donors could be provided with choices). Transparency is a MUST is such 'non-profit' organisations. ^^^ I believe this would be the hardest part to decide on, 'coz the words Sikh and Punjabi are generally always intertwined.

eykY rUp AnUp srUpw ]rMk BXo rwv khI BUpw ] eaekai roop anoop saroopaa ||ra(n)k bhayo raav kehee bhoopaa || God has only one form. Without parallel. God himself manifests as a poor man, a lord or king at different places. It's all right, bhenji. You can use this link: http://www.sikhitoth...?ShabadID=10200 :smile2:

That's the whole point...isn't it?

I'm only assuming... but I think because they might have some Taksaali Mahapurakh or jeevan-wale rehni-behni wale Singhs as their ideals...and understandably, it's hard to decide what's right, when you're newly-wed. Also, I think this Gupt section is more like a boon in that sense 'coz no one wants to talk about these things in 'real-life'.

http://www.sikhitoth...?ShabadID=10149

Waheguru! Bhaji, Dasam Bani smashed it! :tongue2: To be fairly honest...the questions the OP has asked are quite legitimate to an extent. Me and my Singh have been discussing about the theories about preservation of s*xual energy for spiritual progress. Baba Waryam Singh ji mentions about it in his Katha as well. Yoga suggests it too. So, my Singh decided to ask Baba Hari Singh Randhawe wale (they're good friends). And Baba ji said almost exactly what NeoSingh Bhaji has been explaining in a few recent posts; i.e. if one doesn't want to indulge in all of this...grihasti jeevan is not for them and they shouldn't be in it in the first place....and one-sided decisions for becoming 'bihangam' only makes matters worse. And thus, we came across this Guru-waak. Also, being a mother and a wife does make such things clearer. Had I come across the question when I was unmarried...I'd have thought the OP has gone bonkers!!! :drop: