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Two member team comprising of Navkiran Singh, a human rights lawyer and activist from Punjab practising in the High Court at Chandigarh and who is the General Secretary of LFHRI along with another lawyer Gagan Aggarwal, visited Dubai and Sharjah on 13th and 14th of April and met the lawyers who have been hired to defend these 17 Indians by the Indian Consulate of UAE. They also visited Sharjah jail and met all the prisoners and found a gross miscarriage of justice. “The meeting was conducted for almost 2 hours, with these 17 young boys who are all aged between 21-25 years and it revealed a very sorry state of affairs. The apathy of the prisoners revealed a total miscarriage of justice, highhandedness and religious biasness of the CID branch of Police of Sharjah and a total callous attitude of the Indian consulate towards the Indian citizens who are languishing in jails of UAE,†the group said in its fact finding report. LFHRI said the prisoners reported that none of them was arrested from the spot and on their arrest they were brutally tortured by giving beatings to them for continuous 9 days by police men of CID branch. “They were beaten with Golf clubs & plastic pipes and were also given electric shocks. They were made to stand on one foot and not allowed to sleep and asked to make confessions to the crime, which as per their version they never committed," Navkiran Singh, who is LFHRI general secretary, told IBNS. “However in spite of brutal torture, they never confessed. Some of these prisoners also showed their injuries received by them in the police interrogation and also disclosed that the said injuries are contained in their medical reports,†said Singh, who visited the prisoners in the jail. The right group said the accused disclosed that they are not allowed access to their religious prayer books and have been forced to keep away from their articles of faith. Two of the accused want to grow hair to be true Sikhs, however are not being permitted to do so. In the library of the jail there are no books in Punjabi language literature or of Sikh religion, which can be read by the inmates,†LFHRI said. The victims also alleged callous attitude of the Indian Consulate as officials from the consulate hardly visited them in the jails. The group said one of the prisoners told them that out of their 9 months incarceration in the jail, only now has the consulate officials started visiting some of them, due to highlighting of these 17 accused case of death penalty. LFHRI has demanded immediate action by the Indian Consulate to protect the human rights of the prisoners.

If the Sikhs are executed then like afghanistan Dubai has proven itself a tyraanical islamic regime if random killings of Sikhs is tolerated then the goverment should be taken over by western goverments and a proper democracy established. There is no place in the world for these extreme muslim and right wing hindu goverments. Like I have said before learn from the Jews until we have our own country no one is going to speak up for us now tell me who is doing anything from India where is the pressure for these Sikhs. These medieval goverments that kill innocent citizens are being monitored by Amnesty International and so its only a matter of time beofre they are blacklisted for human rights violations. There is no place in the world for these backward thinking genocidal goverments hiding behind large amounts of money whilst killing the downtrodden.

I never use muslim businesses because I have walked in in the past and they look at you with contempt When I see sikh girls walk in young staff always follow them out staring

Protest must go ahead it is our human right if these atrocities are not highlighted we have no voice they shut our voice off in India Democratic freedom of speech is our right WJKKWJKF

The UK is to maybe have a new conservative leader The conservatives are very sympathtic to the SIkhs Congratulations WJKKWJKF

Over the last 13 years it has been clear where the priorities of the brahmins and muslims lied they gave up support of the tories and backed the labour party into goverment and did a grand old job off messing up the country. All of the way through hindus misused their powers to get grants and built an Indian alliance against the Sikhs of the UK however all of that has changed I am personally aware that Brahminism and hinduism is frowned upon by the conservative government and the election tactics used against Sikhs has backfired. Manmoham SInghs party also asked the Labour government to put a stop to SIkhs voices for independance in the UK by Labour - The nazi hindus who have penetrated the very veins and heart of labour using their bribes and downright dirty tactics thought they had succeeded I AM PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THE NEW LEADER OF THE UK IS A CONSERVATIVE The conservatives of the USA and the UK have always recognised the hindu race as manipulative and deceptive as for the muslims they dont have a chance All of th hindus will try to jump into bed with the tories and buy them out Im sorry to say but they have already been briefed on the tactics used by the 2 MP's and are very aware of ALL TACTICS THAT WILL BE USED AGAINST SIKHS We have won a major battle today for truth and traditional values the RSS HINDUTVA and all pseudo tactics are being investigated as we speak expect announcements over the next few months WJKKWJKF

ANY MAN THAT CELEBRATES WITH SWEETS WHEN INNOCENT BABIES AND FAMILIES WERE MURDERED CANNOT REPRESENT THE OVERALL VIEW OF A CONSTITUENCY THAT HAS MUSLIMS AND SIKHS IN IT

Get Sharma out and Sikhs in these pro Congress Sikh hating MP's need to be exposed although I am sure the British parliment is already aware of them. The next thing we need to do as soon as we get a Sikh into parliment is fight for the Sikh cause by democratic means Dont be afraid now we are very close we will kick the backside of these shaitan Brahmin and Neo NAzi supporting hindus who commit genocide when it suits them and then laugh when the world does not condemn them Let everyone on Southall as well as sending letters to parliment that Sharma does not represent the views of the Sikhs and that he celebrated with sweets when innocent women and children were killed in Delhi

Action commitee another Sikh hater its very funny how you people jump on and find any little point to try to get the sangat to not vote for a Singh. How can he raise his hand when he has to support his whole constituency so not just the voice of the Sikhs as an MP he has to be impartial. Action committee do you think you guys have a chance in hell of stopping the Sikh revolution thats taking place across the world you should be on mulim sites cussing them and trying to stop them getting into power instead of comming on these boards pretending to be Sikhs

hu gareeb how can you compare an anti sikh congress PM with a Sikh rights supporter such as manmohan SIngh its blatantly pobvious humgareeb doesnt want to see a singh in power

Check out this article from Sharmas site on how the Labour Mp's think he is the voce of the Sikhs in Parliment Article Here "Paying tribute to Virendra Sharma he added, “Virendra Sharma is a champion of the Sikh cause in Parliament and works tremendously hard on behalf of all his constituents.” Virendra Sharma said: I am delighted to bring Labour's Foreign Secretary to the Sri Guru Singh Sabha Gurdwara to celebrate the contribution of the Sikh community to Britain. Today I pledge to continue to work on behalf of all the people of Ealing and Southall and make sure that their voices are heard. "

Well hes the closest thing we have to a Sikh which is justification enough to vote for him why such hate for your own brothers if they are wrong we will go to their constituency and comment on the fact that he should clean up his image try telling that to a gora

Ignore humgareeb he is very against having any kind of Sikh in parliment and I know why if you even need to be convinced of why we need to support our own kin and race and religion then read below on the importance of a Sikh in the UK parliment as we arent gonna be treated fairly by any hindu or muslim Dr Mashuq Ally, 59, is paid more than £100,000 to eradicate prejudice at Birmingham City Council as its assistant director for equalities and human resources. Dr Ally, whose job is also to promote equality for the council’s 25,000 workers, and the authority were last night at the centre of an embarrassing unfair dismissal case. The father-of-three, an Islamic affairs expert, is accused of race, ethnic, age and disability discrimination by a former worker, Rajpal Virdee. Mr Virdee 50 year-old, a practising Sikh, claims he was victimised and sidelined in his job as the council’s former £50,000 equalities manager for social services, partly because of his religion. The council said they would be “vigorously contesting” the claims and said Mr Virdee, had been sacked for gross misconduct after an internal audit. While the council refused to say what the audit uncovered, it is understood that he was sacked after he was found to have undertaken other employment while off work, which Mr Virdee denies. In January it was disclosed that Mr Virdee had collected more than £175,000 in wages after being off work for four years. It is thought at least one other member of his team, understood to also be a Sikh, is to give evidence in support of Mr Virdee’s allegations. Dr Ally, who also denies the latest claims, has courted controversy before. In 2003 he was sacked from his role as director of the South-East Wales Racial Equality Council amid claims he had an “improper personal relationship" with a colleague. The colleague, Rachel Godwin, 31, an equality officer who denied they were having an affair, left the organisation after her contract was not renewed. The dismissal of Dr Ally, an Islamic affairs expert, came only a year after his resignation as the head of the Campaign for Racial Equality in Wales, following unrelated allegations of professional misconduct. He quit the organisation before a disciplinary hearing into the allegations could be heard. Birmingham City Council last night said Mr Virdee’s claims would be vigorously contested. “Proceedings have been issued in the employment tribunal, resulting from the city council's dismissal of the said employee for gross misconduct following an audit investigation,” said Alan Rudge, the council’s equalities and human resources cabinet member. "All claims brought by the said employee will be will be vigorously contested.” He declined to comment further. Mr Virdee was unavailable for comment. Dr Ally has denied he left his position at the CRE position “under a cloud” despite the organisation confirming he was investigated before he resigned. He said his employment history was assessed by his new bosses at the council, who had no issue with it. The case cannot be heard in Birmingham because Mr Virdee sits on that tribunal's board. It has been moved to a Manchester employment tribunal on a date to be fixed.

Read the article below if you think anyone is going to help Sikhs apart from Sikhs your deluded away from reality and I suggest we ignore humgareeb as he thinks we are very very stupid Dr Mashuq Ally, 59, is paid more than £100,000 to eradicate prejudice at Birmingham City Council as its assistant director for equalities and human resources. Dr Ally, whose job is also to promote equality for the council’s 25,000 workers, and the authority were last night at the centre of an embarrassing unfair dismissal case. Related Articles * Race relations chief sacked * Christian primary school receptionist sues over religious discrimination * Muslim Pc's boss 'accused him of looking like Osama Bin Laden' * Council boss sued for £1m claims to be victim of 'hate campaign' * City manager compared woman he bombarded with phone calls to Kate Winslet * Secretary called '<banned word filter activated>' and made to scrub male toilets wins damages The father-of-three, an Islamic affairs expert, is accused of race, ethnic, age and disability discrimination by a former worker, Rajpal Virdee. Mr Virdee 50 year-old, a practising Sikh, claims he was victimised and sidelined in his job as the council’s former £50,000 equalities manager for social services, partly because of his religion. The council said they would be “vigorously contesting” the claims and said Mr Virdee, had been sacked for gross misconduct after an internal audit. While the council refused to say what the audit uncovered, it is understood that he was sacked after he was found to have undertaken other employment while off work, which Mr Virdee denies. In January it was disclosed that Mr Virdee had collected more than £175,000 in wages after being off work for four years. It is thought at least one other member of his team, understood to also be a Sikh, is to give evidence in support of Mr Virdee’s allegations. Dr Ally, who also denies the latest claims, has courted controversy before. In 2003 he was sacked from his role as director of the South-East Wales Racial Equality Council amid claims he had an “improper personal relationship" with a colleague. The colleague, Rachel Godwin, 31, an equality officer who denied they were having an affair, left the organisation after her contract was not renewed. The dismissal of Dr Ally, an Islamic affairs expert, came only a year after his resignation as the head of the Campaign for Racial Equality in Wales, following unrelated allegations of professional misconduct. He quit the organisation before a disciplinary hearing into the allegations could be heard. Birmingham City Council last night said Mr Virdee’s claims would be vigorously contested. “Proceedings have been issued in the employment tribunal, resulting from the city council's dismissal of the said employee for gross misconduct following an audit investigation,” said Alan Rudge, the council’s equalities and human resources cabinet member. "All claims brought by the said employee will be will be vigorously contested.” He declined to comment further. Mr Virdee was unavailable for comment. Dr Ally has denied he left his position at the CRE position “under a cloud” despite the organisation confirming he was investigated before he resigned. He said his employment history was assessed by his new bosses at the council, who had no issue with it. The case cannot be heard in Birmingham because Mr Virdee sits on that tribunal's board. It has been moved to a Manchester employment tribunal on a date to be fixed.

Humgareeb you are not Sikh at all its blatantly obvious get away from this board do you think we are stupid Yes we only put our faith in the gurus but if one of gurus sons is standing for a seat in Southall we will vote him rather than anyone else Please justify a vote for anyone other than a Sikh humgareeb as a Sikh whether he drinks eats meat or anything else he was born into a Sikh family which none of the other candidates are so why the hell would we vote anyone else who also drinks and eat meat yet we have nothing in common with Our commonalities bring us together I have nothing in common with someone who shares sweets after the killing of innocent women and children god knows what he says about Sikhs behind closed doors Humgareeb is on the wrong forum bugger off

I have seen many people on here tlaking about dont vote for somebody because of his middle name is Singh believe me when I tell you they are on here to take away votes from any Sikh of any description. Every muslim in any constituency will always vote for a muslim candidate any hindu will always vote for a hindu candidate Are we so stupid as a kaum that we have a chance to get a turbaned gentleman in parliment who will do more for the Sikh identity than any hindu gora or muslim could do ina thousand years yet we wont vote DUMB DUMB DUMB If your walking down the street and you are attacked as a gursikh who is more likely to come to the rescue a sikh with a turban or a muslim hindu or gora think about this If you had a sister in trouble and you needed someone to look over her would you trust a kesdari a muslim hindu or gora Think about the words of Guru Nanak Dev Ji The reason people are on this board saying dont vote for a Sikh is if one Sikh gets into power it raises the confidence of hundreds even thousands of youth think about it if we have Sikh representatives we are more likely to be listened to in parliment Look at the depseration of these people they are pooping themselves they cant afford to have a Sikh in parliment before India brands us gursikhs as terrorists Believe me when I tell you that the best thing you can do for the kaum RIGHT NOW is persuade as much people to vote for a Kesdhari the power the Sikhs will gain is monumental And play the game of the hindus use manmohan SIngh as an example and how he is trusted by Obama and all world leaders get newspapers articles showing this they are everywhere The time for Sikh on Sikh hatred has to stop this is what the RSS Hindutva and Communists in London want If hes a conservative so what at least we have a blueprint to get into labour and liberals for that matter because if one Sikh is votes into parliment many other Sikhs will be confident to stand Look at obama do you think any real proud African voted Bush for Gods sake Dont be brainwashed whatever party a Sikh gets into is good for SIKHS There are masses of hindus in labour and I have come up against them they dont help anyone apart from their own kind STOP THE STUPIDITY VOTE SIKH

Let me be the first one to say Bole so nihal sat sri akal The meeting that took place yesterday between all of the Sikh organisations from around the UK was monumental The Pseudo hindus have failed the brahmins have failed the fortune tellers have failed the so called punjbai newspapers trying to destroy Sikhi have failed the RSS has failed the Shiv Sena has failed above all all evil has failed as a man says what you resist persists The meeting between rhamgharia sikh temples and singh sabha also ravidass has proven once and for all that Sikhi is here to stay The BBC presenters have tried to make sikhs look bad zeetv has tried to destroy our respect bbc asian network presenters have tried to make us look bad Where has your underlying hatred for Sikhs got you youve lost viewers the radio stations are closing and all other channels set up as so called voices of punjabi sikhs are losing viewers in the thousands Karma has spun round and slapped you all in the face All of these congress people in gurdwaras who have tried to split commitees in every temple to weaken the SIkh cause all of the idiots promoting ghand mand to our sisters all of the wedding halls promoting dancing and nasty habiits after attending a place of god your times are coming to an end One of the first things that panthic commitees will be pointing to is an end to these extravagant parties to show off and ply our youth with alcohol a study has confirmed that most of these wedding hall owners are not even true sikhs and just exploit us to make money in fact many of them are hindus who the hell knows what they are putting in food in Sikh weddings The trend towards extravagant weddings is in actual fact coming to a peak and we can expect a dive to come soon as people are just sitting there and thinking hang on we are here looking stupid dancing for what you dont need this crap to be happy in fact the pressure that this will take off our kaum is huge and people who do hold these extravagant parties will just end up looking stupid. The ekta one meeting is just a blueprint for what is about to happen worldwide the sSikh dream that my gursikh brothers have kept faith in in their hearts is finally coming true It is proven that if a man sticks to his vision it will more than likely come true however when we have 1000 prominent sikhs with a vision that matches and a sangat of 100's of thousands there is no power in the world that will be able to stop this power that is being unleashed for the greater good of Sikhs and mankind as a whole. The reason they divide you is they didnt want you to see this power the seed is known we have rooted and the light of gurbani is helping us grow what can I do you may all be thinking well all you have to do is stop all hatred and animosity for anyone Sikh greet them with a smile like you would your brother and the magic that will take place will unravel before your very eyes WJKKWJKF

WHat the SInghs need to do is reach out to Dosanjh (publicly) and ask about his reservations about the orthodox Sikh community if he refuses to meet on grounds of he is busy go to his office along with local councillers so you can voice your concerns on how he is a fellow Sikh brother by attacking constantly you are adding the fuel to the fire that people need to make the Sikh's look bad. There are a lot of moorakhs that are damaging their own community in the eyes of goras which is obviously either a fear of the unknown or some underhand tactics How can the sangat be sure that Dosanjh isnt being blackmailed as some major games that are played in politics is to get powerful politicians in comprimising situations and blackmail them If this is the case an issue needs to be brought up in writing to the Canadian parliment that we feel some of our esteemed representatives may be getting blackmailed on the orders of eastern powers which is not only a threat to the Sikh community but a threat to all Canadians because if another goverment has its representatives under control they can internally destroy Canada after they have finished with the Sikhs The reason I feel the orthodox sikhs are targeted is they are very hard to buy out and stand up against all tyranny Think about it if we dont drink fornicate or party and arent attached to maya we are of no use to corrupt politicians which is where I feel the problem lies But a burden to one person is a gift to the people who truly care about Canada so if Canadians can be convinced that Sikhs are being damaged deliberatly we can combat this disease before it spreads all across Canada

I have watched a great many movies over the last 10 years or so and as they say what you read or listen to influences your outlook on life Just look at all of the singer lookalikes in Punjab LOL So just to ask the sangat on here what is your most favourite or motivational movie choice I will start off this thread with mine 1st Choice - Che - A 2 part movie about che guevera although they portray che as being weak and sickly (propoganda) this movie shows what one determined individual can achieve with honesty integrity and respect a very very moving film about the cuban revolution with an almost true potrayal of Che guevera - WATCH THIS MOVIE AND TELL OTHER GURSIKHS Wikipedia LInk 2nd Choice - Into the Wild - (directed by Sean Penn) Many immigrants from India will relate to this movie about the freedom you experience without attachments to money greed or lust

Here you go guys free website for everyone Paaji dont take it wrong but I feel the sikh movement has gained great momentum and there are many sevadars that will not allow that to be jepordised Congratulations to the young veerji who is doing seeva but I feel we need to focus his strengths is he has such vision on much more important matters If anyone wants a free website go here www.weebly.com

Singh Pajiis why is everyone getting so wound up by a singer and fabricated rumours about him if you look at the Ranjit SIngh comments they were flared up by people trying to divide Sikhs Kesdari or Sejdari I will not give up on any Sikh brother the gurus even gave our enemies water on the battlefield yet we attack a sikh on the wroong path Tommorow if your brother makes a mistake will you disown him I think not yet when someone sings about his caste his life why complain hes not singing about you because as a Sikh you have no caste So by being offended by caste you are acknowledging that it is alive within you So when a Sikh does wrong we should bring them back into the fold if they do not want to be in the fold what you are essentially doing is losing all of the gursikh jeevan you have built up Think about this if you pray 10 times over the last 10 days and you slander Babbu Mann he gets all of your jeevan so you are actually in debt to God whilst Babbu Mann is in chardi Kala I feel everyone on this board seriously needs to focus their strengths on building the panth and not 2 bit singers singing about their caste after all we are Singhs and dont have a caste

Pajji before commenting on hiding IP addresses I have noticed you are one of the first people on the board to break news of the new Sikh channel before anyone even knew and the only person to break the news before you was a hindutva supporter who worked for zeetv when they said they didnt want any kesdari on the show. A jew told me that before you ever put your name on a database or a list think twice as the people in delhi were on a list the people in punjab were on a list the jews were on a list before being chosen and know we have young 14 year olds collecting lists very fishy me thinks.

This is a totally fabricated rumour its so obvious from the conversation which is fabricated beyond belief only a true *Deleted* would believe this conversation took place Which punjabi actor or singer would risk their entire career on making such a blatant statement against Sikhs and their guru nobody I mean nobod is that stupid and as for Im a jatt first come on which <banned word filter activated> would believe someone would say something as stupid as that. I believe this is a good point for the admin staff of this board to get all of these rumour mongers out of here they are obviously here to split the kaum on caste and to seperate the monay from the kesdari its blatantly obvious and whoever made these rumours up have an alternative motive.

All the better reason for him not to target student unions and established groups Passion is fine if channeled in the correct manner I suggest the young lion first publishes his own website with his background and family background and reasons for doing this There are many laws in providing these services including the freedom of information act which young lion should look into first He should roll it out to his friends foirst and establish true credibility because we dont know who he his passionate or not he should be known to the sikhs he is offering his service to and then only then should he be allowed to gather data on people

Now we all have an understanding of the long road ahead of us in getting justice against the perpetrators of the Sikh Genocide and holocaust in India its time to get wise. Getting wise means thinking before speaking not reacting before checking your facts and not taking bait thrown at you. So what do I mean well as of late I have noticed on these boards that as soon as a rumour is started everybody jumps aboard and attacks the person in question what we need to think like is the wise gursikhs like Bhindrwale when faced with an opinion as thats what most of them are he reacted in a very calm demeanour. Reacting with violence or hrash words stops your thinking process and the results are often regrettable when the facts turn out to be wrong. So use your brains which are much bigger than the tongue and use 2 ears thats why we were given them I will leave you with a point look at a Lion he doesnt just keep roaring unless ready for attack he waits and then attacks and roars if need be when the tmime is right on the other hand look at the Jackal (Kootha) he just makes lots of noise in a group and uses cunning to get scraps of meat left over by the kings of the jungle So are you a jackal or a Lion I leave it to you to decide