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Been so much nindya and attacking Shastarvidiya since the 2000s, however if we look at gatka now it's still mostly as poor and poorly taught as it was back then, still morris dancing moves and still behzti moves in BBC shows about sikhi and vaisakhi. If people were going to attack shastarvidiya, wouldn't have made sense to improve gatka instead and make it more effective? Additionally, the Nihang Singh presence has improved greatly now, and the cracks within the the SGPC and affiliated jatha jathebandis are showing more greatly as panth becomes more knowledgable with dasam bani and itihas day-by-day, so much gyaan which was lost within panjabi sikhs during colonial times. In the 2000s, the groups were able to talk down this bani and gyaan by associating it with RSS and hindus, brahminwaad etc. Not working so well now is it? However with gyaan it would be also good for us to try and preserve our martial arts and keertan vidiya as well! More and more crazy keertan videos are coming out from jatha members that are being made fun of and making sangat annoyed and upset, on tiktok and instagram reels.

Author Posted April 24 On 4/21/2025 at 2:43 PM, ipledgeblue said: sirr should not be nanga because keski is usually worn. Sikhs can sleep nanga-sirr if they choose to . Being from Punjab, almost every Sardaarji i know (amritdhari or not) sleeps/showers with their hair uncovered. I don't think Guru Sahib asked us to wear Dastar to sleep and I don't think it is in SRM. The idea of "keski being worn to sleep" is cos in Bollywood films (Bachna Ae Haseeno) Sikh characters usually tie a gol parna when sleeping since the actor's usually Hindu. So they gotta cover his head somehow or he'd have cut hair. Same reason Diljit wore a pagg to bed in the El Sueno vid. Only time they didn't do that was in Gadar with Sunny Deol which just looked odd tbh What in the world? What sikh or even a decent human would base their knowledge of their culture or religion on a movie industry, that too Bollywood? Believe me, no sikh ever said, I must cover my head becasue an actor did so in a movie. I've been doing it all wrong, I must start covering mh head because the sikh in that movie did. Just because every panjabi and sardaar you know, does something, also doesn't make it right.. Follow the guru. And if you have a medical condition, then exemptions can be made. Just admit it, because of my medical condition, I am not able to follow this rehit. Why are you getting everyone else to drop to your level?

Same here. I just visited Patna Sahib. Seen all 5 Takhats.

1) Guru Granth Sahib with 5,894 hymns. (Note this Granth was given Guruship). It has 1430 pages. Granths by Guru Gobind Singh :- 2) Dasam Granth with 17,293 verses in 1428 pages. 3) Sarbloh Granth in 4,361 stanzas 862 pages in print. There are number of other works by various poets like Suraj Parkash, Bhai Gurdas and Nand Lal.

kartarpuri bir is the first bir, compiled by guru arjun dev ji (bhai gurdas ji wrote it). this the origional bir of the sikhs. guru sahib wrote it, so in case if he wasnt there to guide his sikhs, he could still talk, through SGGS. well you tell me ji, why isnt it important? reason why it is ji, like i said above, its the first ever bir. some say, that seeing the origional texts of the bible and the tohrah (jewish granths) were destroyed by the romans, is it not obvious some of the words have been altered? the kartarpuri bir is the word for word what guru sahib was telling bhai gurdas ji. no-one can alter the word because the kartarpuri bir can be looked up for reference. people made copies of SGGS, but origionally, they looked it up at the kartarpuri bir. every bir you see in the world was once copied from another bir, which was copied from another bir, which was copied from another bir, which was copied from another bir etc, this ultimatly leads to all the birs in the world having their word copying the actual word from the kartarpuri bir and (or) damdama bir. < br>every bir you come across in the world before guru gobind singh ji added more shabads to the kartarpuri bir is somehow linked to the kartaripuri bir. and every bir you see (at the gurdwara or at home) is linked, some how in some way to the damdama bir. when guru hargobind ji left amritsar for kiratpur sahib (i think), he took the bir with him, dhirmal (his grandson) stole it, just to prove he was the next living guru. but he wasnt. the sodhis tried to kill guru tegh bahadur sahib ji, one of his devote followers, makhan shah went after him, i think he plundered some of his stuff, including the kartarpuri bir, which he presented to guru sahib ji. guru ji ordered makhan shah to return the belongings to dhirmal and co. he declined to having the kartarpuri bir seeing that there were enough copies of the bir. now, perhaps someone can fill me in on how maharaja ranjit singh came to posses kartarpuri bir. he used to take a hukamnama from it everyday. i think the sodhis agreed to give him the bir, on a sum of cash (i think), but i am a fool, perhaps someone else learned on this site can fill me here ji. anyway, when the british came to punjab, they took all of the maharaja's belongings. the kartarpuri bir was handed to the indian government. in which, the sodhis decided to get back and took this matter to court. therefore, the indian court declared the sodhis were the rightful owners of the kartarpuri bir, seeing that the guru said to makhan shah to return it. thats what i think ji bhol chukke muaff das