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  1. Whoever wants to moan about this on the forum, pelase don't. As far as I know, there aren't any 3HO representatives on this forum. It would be better for folks to contact them through their youtube channel. It goes without saying that one must be humble and polite during the discussion.
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  2. should we be getting upset about this? it is a spirit fest after all, not a sikh fest.
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  3. You're misunderstanding the problem, Mehtab Singh. Its not a problem with the nature of Sikhs in the UK. Its a problem with the psyche of muslims in the UK. I'm sure even the US State Department would admit that the UK has the highest amount of fundamentalist muslims in the world, and 99% of them are 2nd and 3rd generation UK born. To get to the bottom of that you need to examine the peculiar nature of multi-culturalism practiced in the UK. An example of it can be seen in visits to Punjab. There, you will find the Canadian flag and American flag proudly being displayed by Canadian and American Sikhs, but you will never, ever, find a British Union Jack being displayed by a UK Sikh. Ever. There are 2 reasons for this. Firstly, because as Europeans, flag waving and nationalism has since world war 2 been considered poor taste and thus it is only the right wing facists that display the national flag. Secondly, because no matter how many generations non-whites in England have been in England we always consider our nation to be the nation our grandparents were born in. Thats why 4th generation blacks in London consider themselves Jamaican rather than British. Thats why we 3rd and 4th generation London born Sikhs consider the Nishan sahib to be our flag and Punjab to be our nation rather than England. In the same way, the British born muslims are drawn to the pan-islamic identity. They identify with every muslim nation on earth, but not England. Just like our allegience lies with Punjab, and not England, their allegience lies with Islam, not England. This is why the dynamics here in England are so very different to that in Canada and America and probably why north American Sikhs find it difficult to understand the problem. On top of that you have one very profound difference between the Pakistanis in England and those in Canada and America. The first point to notice is that the Pakistanis greatly outnumber the Sikhs in the UK. But the most important point is the type of Pakistanis the UK has. On visits to Canada and America I noticed how most of the Pakistanis seem to be either Punjabis or modern pashtuns. Here in England, however, the vast majority of Pakistanis are Mirpuris. Amongst Pakistanis in Pakistan they are known as 'jangli' types, i.e very criminal minded and backward. Amongst this group, petty crime is a way of life, and the act of using girls is a natural by-product of this general immorality. Now......Lets put things in perspective though. We, in the UK, have an almost zero problem of Sikh girls marrying Christians and Hindus. Of course it happens, but in such small numbers it ain't even worth mentioning. In contrast, on my visits to north America, I noticed how extremely common it is there for Sikh girls to marry into, and by default become, Christian. What you will notice then, is that the UK Sikhs tend not to ignore their problem. They make a big scene out of it. In contrast, there is total silence from the Canadian and American Sikhs regarding their far bigger problem of Christian / Hindu marriages. Thus, I can't help but feel that the title of this thread should actually have been : "Question to Canadian and American Sangat: Why don't you learn from the UK Sikhs and do and say things to stop your sisters marrying outside the faith ? "
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  4. Focus on your education, play sports and study Gurbani. If you still have time then learn keertan or Gatka. Get a professional degree and a professional job, and then get married to a Singh appropriate for you. Its upto you whether you want your parents to find you one. Forget about this relationship garbage. You are just 17, a dangerous age, so best to focus on studies for now and get good grades. Having a boyfriend is something non-Amritdharis do, you said you are Amritdhari, so you can't get into this stuff. I know initially it all may seem pure, but at your age it doesn't take too long to turn impure. padhaayi ch dhiyaan de putt...agge jaake mundeyaan di koi ghaat ni rehni fer...saari umer kari jaayi chatting ohne sammne bithhaake
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