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  1. The Sikh Federation seem to be sticking their nose into the Hindu Muslim affairs. This is a lobby group that is supposed to represent Sikh interests. Both Islamists and Hinduvatis are not our friends and our lobby groups should butt out.
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  2. are you quite sure , because its amazing how many apnay are marrying gujus and panjabi hindus and seperating the next generation from sikhi
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  3. Yes and it would be extremely pathetic if we joined them. They try to groom our girls and have carried out attacks on gurdwaras. Just let them get on with it.
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  4. This kind of mob violence is something us Sikhs try to avoid as much as possible, we are very reluctant. The other 2 communities love to indulge in it. But I think I may have mentioned this before but I think our propensity for violence when unleashed is something to behold because when we lose it we really lose it. It's like a person who has a long fuse and very rarely lose their temper but they are very hard to control once it is lost. I think many of us Sikh somewhere inside know this about our nature. We are not scared of others per se but we are more afraid of what we become. Like in 1947, we unleashed far more destruction on the muslims but it disgusts us and we hated for doing what we had to do, whereas they don't have any feelings of guilt at all of the things they did. We are wired differently. I think if neuroscientists did tests on us Sikhs compared to the other communities I imagine the neuroscientists would confirm this. I think we probably operate on a different vibration/frequency. We clearly operate at a far higher avasta and then we have to lower ourselves to a more more primitive level. We may all come from the same part of the world and share some ancestory and dna/ heritage etc but I honestly believe that we have diverged from the other 2 communities in a lot of intangible ways.
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  5. There's a berserker lurking quietly in most of us that emerges given enough provocation.
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  6. 1947 is also an example. We were heavily outnumbered by muslims in Punjab but inflicted more damage on them than vice versa. Again it was them who started it. The muslims breed like rabbits but what they don't realise is how much poverty it causes them.
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  7. The muslims cannot really do much in Leicester so they picked an easy target in Birmingham. And they use what they are good at which is the numbers game. I wish there was a community that breeds at higher rates than the muslims so that when the muslims try to get their numbers that they get out-numbered by another community. As to your post that you mentioned about us Sikhs being outnumbered by mobs from other communities is that although we are quite a docile race, we have a knack of being extremely well organised and disciplined when the time comes and this bodes well when tackling an unruly mob particularly when being outnumbered. It's like some kind of dormant gene that gets activated. You saw how quickly our community galvanised during 2011 riots, how quickly during the Kisaan protests. Like MrrSingh said we are a walking contradiction.
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  8. From what happened last week it looked like the Hindus started it and the muslims ended up on top with what happened in Birmingham. You're right apne don't really bully minorities, we are racist though. I can't blame the Hindus to some extent when it comes to suls. Their leadership let them down big time allowing huge amounts of suls to stay behind after partition. We've been fortunate to have an almost sul free Punjab, we only know what suls are like due to living next to them in the west. Punjab has the lowest percentage of suls in all of India. Suls like to push the boat to see what they can get away with and when they go too far like they did in Myanmar recently, the majority community finally has enough and retaliate. If they were a community that kept their head down and worked hard no one would hate them but they just try to push their way of life on all of us. They have conflicts with every other religion.
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  9. The recommended schedule for Sikhs is to go sleep saying God's name and wake up doing the same: ਸਉਦੇ ਵਾਹੁ ਵਾਹੁ ਉਚਰਹਿ ਉਠਦੇ ਭੀ ਵਾਹੁ ਕਰੇਨਿ ॥ saudē vāh vāh ucharah uthadē bhī vāh karēn . Whilst going to sleep they utter Lord's glories and praises and when awake they eulogise Him as well. ਨਾਨਕ ਤੇ ਮੁਖ ਉਜਲੇ ਜਿ ਨਿਤ ਉਠਿ ਸੰਮਾਲੇਨਿ ॥੧॥ nānak tē mukh ujalē j nit uth sanmālēn .1. Nanak bright are the faces of those who daily arise early and remember God. p312 You have to sleep the same number of hours anyway. So why not go to sleep early and wake up early? Afterwards, you'll still have the same number of hours to study--there are only 24 hours in a day. If you say it's the same if you do Amrit Vela first and then go to sleep, it's not: If you do it your way, after you wake up, you won't be worshipping, as commanded above. Instead, you'll head to school or whatever. We're supposed to worship after waking: ਗੁਰ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਜੋ ਸਿਖੁ ਅਖਾਏ ਸੁ ਭਲਕੇ ਉਠਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਵੈ ॥ gur satigur kā jō sikh akhāē s bhalakē uth har nām dhiāvai . He, who calls himself a Sikh of the Great True Guru, should rise early and meditate on God's Name. p305 Meditate after you rise, Gurbani says.
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  10. What the Hindus have shown (They have decades of experience in India) is that when you stand toe to toe in mob violence with Muslims, the muslims b1tch and scream and play victim. When they cannot use their usual tactics and are unable to use their numbers, they capitulate very quickly. I think we are the very few communities that can exert extreme violence historically but we feel great aversion to go down to mob violence route. Though I am completely neutral in this Hindu -Muslim spat, it is an interesting case study.
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  11. This seems to be getting worse with the passage of time. It's absolutely shameful. A complete lack of respect. They treat the gurdwara like a glorified community centre.
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  12. One thing I'll praise the Firangis for is, they do respect and adore their sovereign. The question for us fools is how much we respect and adore our sovereign, King of the Sachi Sarkar (true government), Guru Granth Sahib ji? ਖੰਭ ਵਿਕਾਂਦੜੇ ਜੇ ਲਹਾਂ ਘਿੰਨਾ ਸਾਵੀ ਤੋਲਿ ॥ If I could find the wings on sale, I would buy them for an equal weight of my flesh. ਤੰਨਿ ਜੜਾਂਈ ਆਪਣੈ ਲਹਾਂ ਸੁ ਸਜਣੁ ਟੋਲਿ ॥੨੧॥ Them, I would attach to my body and search for and find that Friend of mine. ਸਜਣੁ ਸਚਾ ਪਾਤਿਸਾਹੁ ਸਿਰਿ ਸਾਹਾਂ ਦੈ ਸਾਹੁ ॥ The Friend is the True Monarch. He is the King over the heads of Kings. ਜਿਸੁ ਪਾਸਿ ਬਹਿਠਿਆ ਸੋਹੀਐ ਸਭਨਾਂ ਦਾ ਵੇਸਾਹੁ ॥੨੨॥ Sitting by whose side one looks beauteous and who is the support of all. p1425 The code of conduct in a Darbar (court) of Guru ji is as that of a worldly king. Yet we see Sikhs chatting away, utterly disrespecting our Guru. If Guru Granth Sahib ji is the Jagat Guru and the King of Kings, as the Sikhs claim, then why don't they accord Guru ji the commensurate respect?
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  13. It depends on what you're asking. The recommended lifestyle is to go to sleep when dark, wake up early, do Ishnan, do Amrit Vela, and stay awake the rest of the day. If you can't do that (because of job schedules), then you simply have to make do. When you stay up, you don't generally do Ishnaan, you don't get the same feeling of getting up to worship. Again, remembering God is always a good thing, never a bad thing. The point is simply that following the recommended lifestyle has benefits.
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  14. Sleep is something that every body needs in order to refresh the physical systems of the body. If you have the power of naam, that can rejuvenate you and you simply don't need to sleep much: ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਗਿਆਨੀ ਸਦਾ ਸਦ ਜਾਗਤ ॥ (Sukhmani Sahib) But it should be clarified that this is only a very few people. The vast majority of people need a normal amount of sleep (which doesn't have be 8 hours).
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  15. That's not due to grooming, its their own choice and from what I've seen it's more Gujarati girls marrying apne.
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  16. Gurbani speaks soo much on this topic. All the shabads about how i have a thousand faults and sins still you forgive me. Your kindness is more vast than my sins. How God protects anyone who dares to come to his Sharan. How countless sins eradicated from doing simran. Look at rehraas sahib. Jap tap Sanjam dharam na kamaayia... Just tell yourself that your Guru is more wiser than you're stupidity. Also look at bhai gurdaas jis vaaran. IK CHARAN SHARAN GUR EK PAINDA JAI CHAL, SATGUR KOT PAINDA AAGAI HOY LETH HAI. Also Bhagat bani: HUM SAR DEEN, DAYAL NA TUM SUR. Forgive me the mistakes in writing these pangtis Go dive into the ocean of gurbani to learn the true meaning of gratitude, self love, and forgiveness.
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  17. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/nov/20/domestic-and-sexual-abuse-of-silenced-sikh-women-revealed First ever report shows 70% of respondents have suffered at the hands of a partner or members of their extended family.
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  18. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-59901035 A man who beat his father to death with a cricket bat and a metal dog bowl has been jailed for a minimum of 20 years. Santokh Singh, 59, known as Charlie, was attacked by his son Phillip Badwal, 25, at their home in Airedale Road, Bradford, on 30 November 2020. Bradford Crown Court heard Badwal, who was on bail at the time of the attack, inflicted "unspeakable violence" after an argument with his father. He initially denied murder but changed his plea on day two of his trial. Read more Yorkshire stories Mr Singh, who had worked as a publican and an engineer, suffered extensive skull fractures, fractures to his face and nose and a broken leg during the 20-minute attack at the family home. Judge Jonathan Rose described the murder as "a savage, brutal and prolonged attack on a defenceless and vulnerable man". The court heard Badwal had previously subjected his father to threats and violence and had forced him to go out and buy drugs for him as well as pay off drug debts. The day before the attack Mr Singh had gone with relatives to see a new flat, having said how unhappy he had been in the family home. After the attack Badwal called drug dealer numbers instead of emergency services. He also tried to cover his tracks by throwing the cricket bat over a neighbour's fence, disposing of his phone and telling police his father had come home that morning badly injured. Barrister Peter Moulson QC said Badwal's addiction to drugs was the root cause of the offending and his client could not recall what had happened in the house. At the time of the attack, he was on bail for his involvement in multiple street robberies and was jailed for five years at Leicester Crown Court in May. Speaking after the hearing Det Supt Tony Nicholson, said: "Badwal unleashed a serious and sustained assault on his father in the house that they shared, leaving him with injuries which were to sadly prove fatal. "Rather than seek urgent medical attention for his seriously injured father, Badwal contacted drug dealers before finally ringing the emergency services, who, despite their best efforts, were unable to revive Mr Singh." ---- Mod Note: Due to your majority of your anti-sikh posting of news articles (mostly all negative), we will be looking forward a bit balance from your account. To avoid having trolls on this forum, we want to see some positive sikh related news from your accoun. Meanwhile, we will delete next anti-sikh postings coming from your id.
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  19. https://www.desiblitz.com/content/2-3m-drug-ring-linked-to-india-busted-in-canada Canadian police have dismantled a $2.3 million drug ring with links to India. Investigators with the York Regional Police Organised Crime Enforcement Bureau collaborated with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP), Peel Regional Police, and the US Drug Enforcement Administration. Together they busted a large-scale international drug trafficking network. The drug ring extended to Western Canada, the United States and India. An investigation dubbed Project Cheetah was launched in May 2020. Parshotem Malhi, aged 54, of Brampton, is charged with trafficking methamphetamine, heroin (six counts) and possession for the purpose of trafficking of heroin, methamphetamine, possession of property obtained by crime (six counts) and possession of identity documents. Rupinder Dhillon, aged 37, of Brampton, is charged with possession of methamphetamine and heroin for trafficking. Sanveer Singh, aged 25, of Brampton, is charged with failure to comply with an order and possession of a controlled substance. Haripal Nagra, aged 45, of Brampton, is charged with heroin trafficking and possession of opium for the purpose of trafficking. Hassam Syed, aged 30, of Brampton, is charged with heroin trafficking and possession of heroin and methamphetamine. Pritpal Singh, aged 56, of Brampton, is charged with heroin trafficking and possession for the purpose of trafficking of heroin, cocaine and opium, possession of property obtained by crime (three counts) and possession of counterfeit money. Harkiran Singh, aged 33, of Brampton, is charged with possession of heroin for the purpose of trafficking and possession of property obtained by crime. Lakhpreet Brar, aged 29, of Brampton, is charged with trafficking heroin, ketamine (three counts), opium (three counts), conspiracy to traffic ketamine, opium and heroin and possession of property obtained by crime (four counts). Didy Adansi, aged 52, of Toronto, is charged with trafficking ketamine (two counts), conspiracy to traffick ketamine, possession of methamphetamine and possession of the proceeds of crime. Sarbjit Singh, aged 43, of Woodstock, is charged with trafficking ketamine (three counts) conspiracy to traffic ketamine and possession of property obtained by crime. Balwinder Dhaliwal, aged 60, of Brampton, is charged with trafficking cocaine (two counts) and possession of property obtained by crime (two counts) and conspiracy to traffic cocaine. Rupinder Dhaliwal, aged 39, of Toronto, is charged with trafficking heroin (two counts), opium and ketamine, possession of property obtained by crime, possession for the purpose of trafficking of heroin, possession of methamphetamine and ketamine, failure to comply with recognizance and conspiracy to traffic ketamine. Ranjit Singh, aged 40, of Toronto, is charged with failure to comply with a release order and probation, possession of heroin and possession of ketamine for the purpose of trafficking. Sukhmanpreet Singh, aged 23, of Brampton, is charged with heroin possession. Rupinder Sharma, aged 25, of Vaughan, is charged with heroin and methamphetamine possession. Prabhsimaran Kaur, aged 25, of Vaughan, is charged with possession of heroin. Khushal Bhinder, aged 36, of Brampton, is charged with trafficking cocaine, conspiracy to traffic cocaine, possession for the purpose of trafficking of cocaine and opium and possession of property obtained by crime. Prabhjeet Mundian, aged 34, of Brampton, is charged with possession of cocaine and opium for the purpose of trafficking and possession of property obtained by crime. Vansh Arora, aged 24, of Brampton, is charged with trafficking cocaine, conspiracy to traffic cocaine, possession of cocaine and opium for the purpose of trafficking and careless storage of ammunition. Simranjeet Narang, aged 28, of Brampton, is charged with trafficking opium and cocaine (two counts), conspiracy to traffic opium and cocaine and possession of property obtained by crime (three counts). Harjinder Jhaj, aged 38, of Caledon, is charged with trafficking ketamine and conspiracy to traffic ketamine and possession of property obtained by crime (two counts). Gaganpreet Gill, aged 28, of Brampton, is charged with cocaine trafficking. Sukjit Dhaliwal, aged 47, of Brampton, is charged with possession of heroin for the purpose of trafficking and possession of methamphetamine and oxycodone. Imran Khan, aged 33, of Toronto, is charged with trafficking ketamine and possession of property obtained by crime. Chinedu Ajoku, aged 51, of Brampton, is charged with heroin trafficking. Harjot Singh, aged 31, of Brampton, is charged with heroin trafficking (two counts) and methamphetamine trafficking. Sukhjit Dhugga, aged 35, of Brampton, is charged with trafficking ketamine, conspiracy to traffic ketamine, possession of ketamine for the purpose of trafficking and possession of property obtained by crime. Gurbinder Sooch, aged 41, of no fixed address, is charged with trafficking ketamine (five counts), possession of property obtained by crime (four counts), conspiracy to traffic ketamine, trafficking opium, trafficking heroin (two counts), conspiracy to import heroin and fail to comply with a release order.
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  20. I've even seen kids with kesh calling others Gyani as well. You're right though, this is a real problem amongst the youth in our community. It's starting to catch on to other communities and people are calling keshdharis gyani.
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  21. i dont think that bindy n em were tryna set up a gurdwara they were known to be hired to intimidate khalistan types by more moderate gurdwaras. Bindy johals rivals gangsters ron and jimmi dosanjh were involved with setting up babbar khalsa set in vancouver but bindy guys ended up killing both of them. and yea pakis r a joke here they tried setting up a crew few years back and got <banned word filter activated> kicked. all they r known for is dating 15 year olds and being bottom feeders
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  22. How about Sikhs shouldn't be criminals in the first place. You really do talk some nonsense.
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  23. It seems like Sikh criminals are like the Pakistanis of the UK.
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  24. Didy Adansi, aged 52, of Toronto, is charged with trafficking ketamine (two counts), conspiracy to traffick ketamine, possession of methamphetamine and possession of the proceeds of crime. Pritpal Singh, aged 56, of Brampton, is charged with heroin trafficking and possession for the purpose of trafficking of heroin, cocaine and opium, possession of property obtained by crime (three counts) and possession of counterfeit money. Flippin 'ell. Even the 'sianay' was at it! Only in Canada! lol That being said: I'm not a supporter of the failed western 'war on drugs' strategy. I'd decimalise it and let adult junkies die as they will.
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  25. No, 12% are, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_London#Religion
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  26. https://www.opindia.com/2020/08/haryanvis-vs-khalistanis-sydney-australia-harris-park-fight/ A band of Haryanvis clashed with a group of Khalistanis at Harris park in Sydney, Australia on Friday night in an organised brawl following a quarrel that ensued over an argument on TikTok. It was apparently broadcast through the social media platform. According to Punjabi singer Kamal Choudhary, the fight started after Jassi, a Khalistani, started posting pro-Khalistani and anti-India content on TikTok.
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  27. She seems to identify with Pakistan quite a bit which is odd In an exclusive interview with Geo News in 2015, then-London mayor Johnson told this correspondent that his wife is from Pakistan, and that she has insisted him several times to visit the country. "My wife (Marina Wheeler) originates from Pakistan, she is a Sikh and her parents were from Sargodha. She has been asking me to visit Pakistan since a long time but unfortunately I was unable to do so but I intend to visit the amazing country soon," Johnson had told Geo News in the interview. https://www.geo.tv/latest/243568-new-british-pm-boris-johnsons-pakistan-connection
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  28. The attack happened at a Pentecostal church in the Punjab state, raising fears among the local Christian communities for their safety as the call for increased protection from the Punjabi government. The targeted church is located in Amritsar, the state’s largest city and the site of Sikhism’s main place of worship, the Golden Temple.According to the Union of Catholic Asian News (UCAN), four people armed with guns stormed the church as Christians were leaving a meeting on Friday, October 23.The network did not say if the assailants were men or women.Witness Jaspal Masih, whose father is the church pastor said he immediately dropped to the floor when he heard the sound of bullets being fired.He told UCAN: “Four persons armed with guns entered the church and opened fire at us.“I laid flat on the ground and saved my life.”Mr Masih’s cousin was not so lucky and died in the attack.https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...hristians-shot
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  29. It seems that the Valmikis and other communities are leveraging their position by going their own way and creating their own adi -dharm. They are doing a lot of outreach in these communities, helping with books and education etc. If this is a pattern that is emerging then it means converting to Christianity is no longer a preferred option and Evangelicals and other christian denominations are becoming irrelevant. That is because the evangelicals and missionaries cannot bribe their way into converts. Combined with Ghar Wapsi (I think Modi understands the intra-Hindu game being played here), there is a harder push to get these 'Christians' back into dharmic fold. I think this why the Christian churches in Punjab have shifted their priorities to target our Sikhs and other Hindu groups. The shooting in the Church looks increasingly like a power struggle to get the converted Valmikis into adi-dharm or into mainstream hinduism.
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  30. Also the Deras in Punjab. They’re like these Christian missionaries.
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  31. I really hope this isn't done by Sikhs. It will just make us look like a bunch of violent extremists.
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  32. There are so many different denominations of Christianity but the church is Pentacostalist. I have heard of it, but never knew what it actually is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentecostalism This particular brand of Christianity is not really about the bible, but it seems to be more believing in the spirit of Jesus and uttering words or something and baptisms. I have provided the link, but it would be interesting that other than the money/bribe aspect, what kind of things would entice Punjabis into Pentacostalism. This whispering uttering of certain words and having spirits entering you and excorcising spirits seem to be very popular in Sub-Saharan Africa, sounds very shamanistic. From a Punjabi context, what existing practices would find similarity with this brand of Christianity that Punjabis would be enticed.
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  33. Whomever claims responsibility will be interesting to observe.
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  34. After the aggressive proletysation that has been taken place in Punjab, it would seem that it's inevitable that there was going to be kind of push back. However, we do not know who the assailants were and what the motives would be.
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  35. This is interesting Christian persecution has started in Indian Punjab like the rest of India. Christians felt safe in Punjab because of a Sikh majority.
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  36. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/nri/other-news/indian-origin-sikh-councillor-suspended-from-conservative-party-after-saying-he-did-not-like-muslims/articleshow/78581067.cms Indian-origin Sikh councillor suspended from Conservative Party after saying he ‘did not like Muslims’
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  37. Of course we are! Or we are the descendents of recent economic migrants. But a certain type of hypocritical whitey (e.g. many of those in Australia, US and other nonwhite territories that have been usurped by europeans) - is wilfully blind to the fact that they themselves are 'immigrants' or their descendents (well more like hostile invaders). Take Australia for example, where a big portion of the white population descend from 'transported' convicts. Sure some of them may have been political prisoners but the majority weren't. England basically off-loaded a lot of their degenerates and scum out there. Even up to recent times they would send orphans there to bolster white numbers (many of whom were sexually abused after arriving - presumably because of their vulnerability)? My point was in response to you 'minority rules' point. Underneath the facade there seems to be deep seated fear by many white europeans about their 'races' future survival. That will probably lead to their true nature coming out, as we can see in the US. I don't think 'minority rules' like you are suggesting. And if the politics of recent decades has curtailed white supremacy somewhat - that can very easily and quickly change.
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  39. But of course people have to stay quiet because minority rules these days.
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  40. The reason Africans do better is because most of them (particularly those from West Africa) came here as professionals with degrees whereas the ones from the Caribbean obviously didn't. The Afro Caribbeans have assimilated into western/white working class culture (and with that comes poor academic attainment and low social mobility).The other reason is those form the Caribbean have an individualist culture (Like White Brits) whilst Africans have more of a collectivist one
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  42. So why are parents in Southall and Slough (my hometown) doing such things. In those towns it's more like 'spot the white person'. As for names like Sukhdeep, the Sikhs born here would know the innuendo associated with that name and avoid it. They can go for a simple easy to pronounce name like Preeti. No need for 'Jessica'. But some people are hell bent on giving their kids a western name and will look for any excuse to so.
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  43. https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/geeta-sidhu-robb-jack-straw-jew
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  44. DESPITE WEAKENING ECONOMY, PAKISTAN APPROVES 1 BILLION FOR CONSTRUCTION AT BABA GURU NANAK UNIVERSITY CHANDIGARH, Punjab—Despite day by day weakening economy, the Pakistan government has approved PKR 1 billion for continuing the construction of Baba Guru Nanak University at Nankana Sahib. On June 27, western Punjab’s CM Usman Buzdar approved ‘Baba Guru Nanak University Budget Bill 2020’ for the second phase of construction at Baba Guru Nanak University, under which PKR 1 billion will be spent for the construction of hostel, administrative block, and classrooms. A wave of ardency is being observed among the Pakistani Sikhs as soon as the completion of construction work at Baba Guru Nanak University is heading towards completion. Baba Guru Nanak University will benefit thousands of students living in villages nearby to Sri Nankana Sahib, Sheikhupura, Jadaanwala, Okada, etc. It may be recalled here that the foundation stone of Baba Guru Nanak International University (BGNU) was laid in Nankana Sahib on July 12. The Pakistan government is likely to spend more than 2.5 billion rupees to develop a high standard infrastructure over 70 acres land allotted to the University. https://www.sikh24.com/2020/06/28/despite-weakening-economy-pakistan-approves-1-billion-for-construction-at-baba-guru-nanak-university/#.XzV1k-hKg2w
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