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  1. so america was given only 2 choices: kerry or bush. If, according to u, both are bad, then there should not be any difference whatsoever. so in ur opinion, kerry is as bad as bush. so why cry?
  2. Its not that I like republicans and dislike democrats. The fact is, I do not go for the party, but for the person and his/her views. I a pro Bush, not pro republicans. To further prove this, I don't like california governer and the things he stands for. He is republican.
  3. WOW! CONGRATULATIONS!!! :wub: President George W. Bush, is the man! :D Kerry was a fraud who doesn't even know who Sikhs are, and he called us "TERRORISTS". How could such a person run the country? So now the Americans have given President George W. Bush 4 more years to serve the coutry. :doh: chill out!
  4. One day i was walking to my car from school and 2 black people were staning in the parking lot and one of they said, "Osaaaaama Beeeeen Ladeeen" (in their funny accent). When I turned back and said, "I am not.....", they they laughed soooooo loud and run away. One day I was sitting next to my white classmate. I am taking 2 classes with him and know him for about 3 years. He didn't know that i was a sikh. One day we were talking and he asked me to eat something. But I kindly refused. He asked me, "Oh yea, because it is Ramadaan?" I said, "What is Ramadaan"? He replied, "Don't you know what Ramadaan is, aren't you muslim". I said that I am not muslim. He replied, "Oh that's good." But when I told him that I am a Sikh, he had no idea and never heard of Sikhs and Sikhism. That's sad!
  5. Welcome to the forum Raul Gonzalez!
  6. yea, they are both different in their ownn ways and people will decide what they want. if they liked George Bush, they will vote for him, and if they want to taste something different, just out of curiosity, they'll vote for Kerry. I think there is nothing right or wrong in this.
  7. so that means Indira Rani, Rajiv Gandhi, Nehru, Tytler, Sajjan Kumar, were/are all good leaders because leadership and morals are two different things? so does that justify Indira attacking Harimandir Sahib because she did what she thought was right, even though it was immoral according to us, just like Hitler's activities were immoral to Jewish? But both of these individuals' activities may be 'moral' to the rest of the world.
  8. It is very very difficult to change our parents' mind about cast issue. Majority of our parents believe in it. But times are changing and the new generation will be far better Sikhs than their parents in terms of caste issue. Only the people who they think belong to high caste (majority of them, not all) are proud of themselves. The low caste ones have nothing to be proud of. so they have this advantage. In these days, Sikhs are the biggest discouragement for people who want to be Sikhs. This is sooo true. Just think about all the problems in our community. we have created all of them. We keep doing those things that are strictly forbidden in Sikhi and expecting other people to know about who sikhs are and what sikhi is. Baba Hardev Singh said one day that if you want to make one Sikh, be a Sikh. People will turn to Sikhi by looking at a Gursikh's life. All those ex amritdharis and people who have been turned away from Sikhi, actually is not their fault, but ours. Our parents play a major role in it. We are not free to practice sikhi because we are trapped in daulity between parents and Sikhi. Our parents also know that they are not allowed to believe in caste system and Guru Granth Sahib Ji says that those we are proud of their caste are "fools", but still, this is very hard fact to accept.
  9. hmmm... so how can a devil be a good leader when he kills hundreds and thousands of people? Making a bunch of people follow him and making them do whatever he says does not prove any kind of 'goodness' of leadership. There is one more thing to this and that is, its not only about Hitler that he was able to convince, but also about the people who were convinced. The whole credit does not go to Hitler alone, but also to those people who helped Hitler by being convinced. If we look at "great leadership" from this angle, Tytler also made a bunch of people follow him to massacare Sikhs and burn them alive in Nov. '84. So does that prove him to be a good leader too, just because he made people follow him. He "pump[ed] josh into the ppls" to follow him. Again, he also won the elections in Delhi this year, does it mean he is a good leader just because he convinced people to vote him (meaning, he made them follow him), including majority of the Sikhs in Delhi. I don't think so. A true Jewish heart cannot accept Hitler as a good leader, just like we Sikhs cannot accept Tytler. Moreover, its not about acceptance, but about facts, that are far beyond emotional feelings. oh well i think we are going out of topic Vicky S1ngh hahaha... lets have fun now....
  10. This is one of the most absurd and strangest things i have ever heard in my life. Its hard to follow the logic. I hope you were not serious when you said this. But if you were, then according to you, the following will be true too: Aurangzeb was the great leader and that's proven in every country history.. (though in a bad way..) Vazir Khan was the great leader and that's proven in every country history.. (though in a bad way..) Indira Gandhi was the great leader and that's proven in every country history.. (though in a bad way..) Rajiv Gandhi was the great leader and that's proven in every country history.. (though in a bad way..) Sajjan Kumar is the great leader and that's proven in every country history.. (though in a bad way..) Jagdish Tytler is the great leader and that's proven in every country history.. (though in a bad way..) just think about it and btw whats ur planning for Yuba City. I think we are leaving on Friday evening or Saturday morning.. take care :wub:
  11. Some people don't like Bush just because they think he stutters. But it does not mean that those who do not stutter are better candidates for Presidency. Adolf Hitler was an eloquent speaker, obviously not stutterer, but it does not make him a good leader.
  12. Somebody told me that he was ok before 1984, but after that he turned agaist Sikhs and Sikhi, probably to save his a$$ from indian government. He said himself in his article (or the interview) that Indira was used to put anyone in jail whoever spoke agaisnt her, but she did not do anything to Khushwant Singh cuz he had done alot for her and her son. This proves 2 things: 1) He was already her puppet and 2) He had his hidden motives to disguise as a Sikh and portray us as criminals.
  13. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh I read an article by Khuswant Singh though the message at sikhnet discussion forum at the link below: http://www.sikhnet.com/sikhnet/discussion....45?OpenDocument and posted the following reply, however, it was rejected by the moderators by saying that reference from another discussion forum is not valid regarding Khushwant Singh's views on hair that i put on quotes that i found from another website (this website is the heavy supporter of Kala Afghana). I remember reading Khushwant Singh's these views at American Sikhs yahoo group, but I could not find the post there. so i used the link that is in the post below. so the sole reason of my writing this message here is that does anyone know the valid referece to Khushwant Singh's views on hair that where it appeard the first time, in a book, or article, or something else???? Below is my reply to the article on the link above where u can find khushwant singh's views on hair: ------------------------------------ I read this article. There is nothing special in it. We may say its good cuz he said something that some of us like to hear about Indira Rani. So what? This is the technique that these kind of writers use to bring you to some points where you agree with him and you start thinking that whatever this person is saying is all true, and along the line later on as you keep reading he says something that we did not expect, and due to the previous agreements it makes us think for a white that his this point that we do not agree with, is also true. This is what Khushwant Singh did. Most of the poeple said he is a Sikh, but he is not. This is what he thinks about hair: “As CHILDREN WE were not encouraged to ask too many questions about religion. The last Guru had ordained that Sikhs must never cut hair on any part of their bodies, not eat Kosher {halaal} meat, smoke or consume tobacco in any form. And that was that. Men who clipped their beards or moustaches were automatically ostracized as patits (renegades). The observance of ritual and prayer were also laid down. If you recited the five prescribed prayers (nitneym) you were a good boy; if you did not, you were an urchin. Since I could recite my morning and evening prayers by rote and at times sang a shabad or two in the Gurdwara, I was my grandmother's favorite grandchild. Till I was fifteen I liked wearing my hair long. There was nothing effeminate about it. Ours was a macho creed of the Khalsa and our warrior Guru had ordained that long hair was sacred. When hair began to sprout on my face and genitals I began to question its sanctity. I used depilatory cream to remove my pubic hair and thought women without it and hair in their armpits, as portrayed in marble statuary, looked more fetching than those with bushy growths between their thighs in dirty picture-postcards. Thus the first dogmas I BEGAN TO QUESTION WERE THESE EXTERNAL EMBLEMS OF SIKH SEPARATENESS: THEY APPEARED TO ME TO BE AS SUPERFLUOUS AS SUPERFLUOUS HAIR ON THE BODY; THEY HAD NO SPIRITUAL CONTENT. I continued to retain the outward emblems of the Khalsa not because of any conviction but out of a wish to remain a part of the Khalsa fraternity. The sense of belonging gave me a sense of social security, as it does to this day.” http://sadapunjab.codeshake.com/forum/topi...asp?TOPIC_ID=11 In the artile, Khushwant wrote, "Bhindranwale was a thug, a fanatic, and he fought like a fanati c and didn't give in. The battle instead of two hours lasted two days and nights. And with a heavy toll." After reading his comments on hair above, one can easily see how much he knows and understands Sikh History, despite the fact he has written books on Sikhi. Even McLeod has written sooo many books, but it does not mean he understands the essense of Sikhi. This is the same case here with Khushwant. I read his article a long time ago on the internet where he said, if he had the choice, he would accept Rajnish Osho his Guru. Now he is calling Sant Jarnail Singh Ji a "thug" and "fanatic" who did not "give in", but he is completly ignoring the fact that Sikhs have ALWAYS faught bravely and preferred achieving martyrdom rather than running away from the battle field. This is a Sikh Tradition right from Gurus' period "soora so pehchaniye jo larey deen ke hait, purja purja kat marey kabhu na chhadey khet" It is so chickenish that he thinks of Sant Ji to run away and leave the battle field. He is totally unaware of Sikh Spirit. ------------------------ If anyone knows where he wrote this about hair, please post. Thanks.
  14. John Kerry's Resume NAME: John Kerry RESIDENCE: 7 mansions, including one in Washington DC, worth multi-millions. I served in Vietnam (four months). EXPERIENCE: Law Enforcement. In my career as a U.S. Senator, I've voted to cut every law enforcement, CIA, and Defense bill. I ordered the city of Boston to remove a fire hydrant in front of my mansion, thereby endangering my neighbors in the event of fire. I served in Vietnam (four months). MILITARY: I served in Vietnam (four months). I used three minor injuries to get an early discharge from the military and service in Vietnam (as documented by the attending doctor). I served in Vietnam (four months). I then returned to the U.S., joined Jane Fonda in protesting the war, and insulted returning Vietnam vets, claiming they committed atrocities and were baby killers. I served in Vietnam (four months). I threw my medals, ribbons, or something away in protest. Or did I? My book "Vietnam Veterans Against the War: The New Soldier", shows how I truly feel about the military. I served in Vietnam (four months). COLLEGE: I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. Unlike my counterpart George Bush, I have no higher education and did not get admitted to Harvard nor graduate with an M.B.A PAST WORK EXPERIENCE: After College and Vietnam, I ran for the U.S. Congress and have been there ever since. I have no real world experience except marrying very rich women and running their companies vicariously through them. I served in Vietnam (four months). ACCOMPLISHMENTS: As a U.S. Senator I set the record for the most liberal voting record, exceeding even Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton. I have consistently failed to support our military and CIA by voting against their budgets, thus gutting our country's ability to defend itself. Although I voted for the Iraq War, now I am against it and refuse to admit that I voted for it. I voted for every liberal piece of legislation. I have no plan to help this country but I intend to raise taxes significantly if I am elected. I served in Vietnam (four months). My wealth so far exceeds that of my counterpart, George Bush, that he will never catch up. I make little or no charitable contributions and have never agreed to pay any voluntary excess taxes in Massachusetts, despite family wealth in excess of $ 700 million. I served in Vietnam (four months). I (we) own 28 manufacturing plants (Heinz) outside of the U.S. in places like Asia, Mexico and Europe. We can make more profit from the cheaper cost of labor in those Countries, although I blame George Bush for sending all of the other jobs out of Country. I served in Vietnam (four months). Although I claim to be in favor of alternative energy sources, Ted Kennedy and I oppose windmills off Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard as it might spoil our view of the ocean as we cruise on our yachts. I served in Vietnam (four months). RECORDS AND REFERENCES: None. However, I served in Vietnam (four months). PERSONAL I practice my Catholic faith whenever cameras are present. I ride a Serotta Bike. I love to ski/snowboard. I call my Gulfstream V Jet the "Flying Squirrel". I call my $850,000 42-foot Hinckley twin diesel yacht the "Scarmouche". I am fascinated by rap and hip-hop and feel it reflects our real culture. I own several "Large" SUVs including one parked at my Nantucket summer mansion, though I am against large, polluting, inefficient vehicles and blame George Bush for our energy problems. I served in Vietnam (four months).
  15. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh I think everybody is at a different stage in his/her life. When I came to America, 7 years ago, I also cut my hair. Actually when I was in India, I had in mind that I will cut my hair when I go to America. I made all kinds of excuses to my parents to let me cut my hair, and I succeeded. But I always had the guilt, the guilt that ALWAYS stayed with like a shadow. Your brother may come back. I know it hurts when your loved one does something wrong. But at the same time, we do not have control over anyone's life, may it be anyone, even your brother. But you have to keep up with your life. Set an example. Do not try to convince anyone because our arguments cannot make anyone Sikh. It is our life, sachi suchi pooran Gursikhan wali life that will make one think about the path we are following. Bhai Lehna's life took a turn when he saw a Gursikh's life. So do more paath, naam simran and ardas, and leave the rest to Guru Sahib. Everybody comes to this earth with his/her own karam...
  16. lets all leave dirtiest comments in the world in his feedback....
  17. Excellent! :wub: But Vicky Singh, "13 Reason Why I am Sikh?" at http://sikhpride.com/youthreading.htm is linked to "Hair vs. Nails" page. take care!
  18. America has gone though and is going through several changes since sept. 11, 2001. But we cannot blame President Bush for each and every problem. I think we should blame it on American Life. Two weeks ago I was talking to an Asian American Studies professor who is a single mom and went though alot of hardships to complete his phd. She said we should change our lifestyle. Americans live a totally different life style than rest of the world. Instead of complaining about gas prices, go and ride the bus, get on a train, ride a bike. I totally agree with her. Blaming the president is not a wise choice, instead we should blame, not blame actually blame, but understand the circumstances and the situations we went though in past 3 years. We were attacked. Very bad. Then we have to defend ourselves and punish the enemy. And in order to do that, we used our resources and our economy went down. So what! Don't Americans see that they were attacked and therefore, it will affect their lives too(economically). As for the elections, it is sad that some sikhs are willing to vote for someone who calleed them TERRORISTS. (His apology wan't satisfactory!) So in my opinion, President Bush will be a better choice for American Future.
  19. Found it (in english): http://www.sikhcybermuseum.org/People/BhagatSingh.htm MEETING WITH BHAGAT SINGH, THE GREAT PATRIOT From Autobiography of Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir Singh At last the day came. It was 6 p.m. on 4th October, 1 930 The news of my release was announced and everyone was very happy about it. I was sitting in a blissful solitude within my cell. All the patriots rushed towards my cell to break the news to me and congratulate me. The first to come and congratulate me was Bhai Gajjan Singh (Teacher). In a matter of minutes other patriots gathered around me and read joyfully the orders of release. I was overwhelmed not so much by the joy of release as by the separation I would have to bear from devoted friends like Bhai Kartar Singh (of Canada). I was overwhelmed by these dual emotions of joy and sorrow when friends came to bid good-bye with loving embraces: The prison officials stood there ready to carry out the order of my release but my feet were reluctant to move away from such dear companions. I embraced everyone of them and after a few affectionate words with each one of them I left them all with tears in their eyes. The stream separated from the river at last. When I went out of these prison-wards I met Mohammed Akbar near the central dome. He was smiling and coming towards me. On seeing me he congratulated me for my release. Inattentive to his felicitations I told him hat it was time that he should fulfill his promise. He should not miss the chance. He smiled and said that he had already m ade arrangement for the meeting with Bhagat Singh. I could now meet him for full two hours. I asked him if he had taken permission from the Superintendent. Daroga: Before I found it necessary to ask him, the Superintendent was already worried and puzzled and was seeking a way out of a difficult situation. His worry is that you should be quietly released without giving any chance to outsiders to make much noise about it. He asked me to find a way out of this difficulty. He said, there are regular pickets of people outside, who are waiting for the news of the release of political prisoners. As soon as a political prisoner is released the news spreads like fire and there is a great noise and hubub of long processions, which are very disturbing to the Government. The Government has issued strict instructions, that the release should be secret and quiet. You see people sitting near the prison gates in regular pickets till sunset, so you must make some arrangement to send Randhir Singh out secretly and quietly so that we may not be blamed for anything later on. At that very, moment I asked the Superintendent not to worry, and suggested to him the plan, saying, "You remember sir, the day Randhir Singh came to this prison, Bhagat Singh who has been sentenced to death submitted an, application for permission to meet him, but you rejected it. I believe that if we now allow him to meet Randhir Singh, the meeting may take about two hours. It will be quite dark by then and by 8 P.M. we will send Randhir Singh out and strict secrecy about the releasewill be maintained." The Superintendent was impressed by this suggestion and gladly issued orders to allow this meeting and you can talk freely as long as you like. I will now give you a warder, who will guide you to Bhagat Singh. So saying, he sent a prisoner warder with me and ordered him to permit us to have an unrestricted meeting. Bhagat Singh was taking his daily stroll in the prison compound. He had been told about the permission granted for this meetin g. On seeing me he came running towards me. I was standing outside the fence of the courtyard. He crossed the fence and greeted me with great love and affection, bowing low out of reverence. I also folded my hands and greeted him warmly. The warder moved away when we were together. Even the policemen on duty in the compound kept away from us. We were all alone facing each other. Bhagat Singh was so overwhelmed by the, joy of meeting after months of anxious moments, that tears rolled down his eyes. I had hardly met anyone in life who had developed so deep affection and love even before coming into contact with me. It appeared we had known each other for long time. In a rapturous tone he said, "O I can hardly say how happy I am today on having met you at last. Day and night I was restlessly longing for just a short meeting with you. At last the blessed moment has come and my wishes have been fulfilled. After knowing all your great sacrifices and suffering in prison, I had become a keen admirer and passionate devotee. It was the heroism of the great freedom fighters of 1914-15 like you, which inspired insignificant patriot like me. All our revolutionary exploits are nothing compared to the astounding heroic deeds performed by you and your companions. Your own life and struggle for freedom and rights especially impressed me. Munshi Manna Singh has perhaps told you with what passionate longing I was thirsting to meet you and talk to you. I should say that my inner attachment and admiration for you brought you back to Lahore prison after sixteen years. When I first sent a message to you within this prison, that I was anxious to meet you, I received your divine command to keep the sikh symbols (beard and hair.) I am prepared to abide by your wishes. I am really shamed and am prepared to tell you frankly that I removed my hair and beard under pressing circumstances. It was for the service of the country that my companions compelled me to give up the Sikh appearance and disguise myself as a sannyasin. So it i s in association with the irreligious people that I was compelled to show disrespect certainly my religious symbols, but now I will certainly do whatever you wish me to do: I was glad to see Bhagat Singh repentant and humble in his present attitude towards religious symbols. I was deeply impressed by his frank statement of facts, but I could not hesitate in expressing my inner feelings and I said "Brother Bhagat Singh ji, I am deeply touched by your love for me. I am also impressed by your spirit of service and partriotic zeal, but I must tell you dear brother, that your companions did not give you good advice. You seem to be seeking something very petty and you became a prey to the evil and mischievous suggestions of your companions. Compared to our times the period in which you started the freedom struggle is a period of, great awakening. You could fearlessly take part in the freedom struggle and serve your country and humanity as you wished. But you must be knowing that, in our times (1914-15) few and rare souls felt inspired to dedicate their lives to this cause. In the Punjab only a few Sikhs who could be counted on finger-tips were politically awake felt the patriotic fervour to fight for freedom. There was a great feeling and political opposition to the heroic partriots who had come from Canada and America,, Every child in the Punjab was opposed to them. I will give you only one example of the moral courage of our patriot brothers of those days. Bhai Nidhan Singh of Chugga village was a great patriot and fighter for freedom, who inspired hundreds of Indians living in foreign countries to come to India and dedicate their lives to freedom struggle. He spent thousands of rupees from his own pocket for freedom fight. And yet he did not disguise himself. He came openly by sea but the Government atonce made elaborate arrangements to arrest him. He reached India along with his companions without being detected. He could not be arrested. He came to the Punjab and threw himself heart and soul i n the freedom struggle. His heroic deeds for the cause of freedom must be known to you. Warrants for his arrest had been issued, his photograph was widely publicised and a price was set on his head. There was an all out attempt to arrest him. He moved swiftly from one place to another organizing the 'freedom struggle. There was no sympathy and support for these freedom fighters in the public. The patriots depended mostly on Bhai Nidhan Singh for organisation and inspiration. Of course in fearlessness there was none so daring as Kartar Singh Sarabha. One day Kartar Singh feared that Bhai Nidhan Singh may be arrested. He was the key figure among the freedom fighters and it was necessary that he should not be arrested soon. Keeping only the political interest in view he suggested to Bhai Nidhan Singh that he should dye, his beard and thus change his publicised appearance to some extent. Bhai Nidhan Singh boldly answered that he would never do such a thing and tarnish and disgrace his heroism in the freedom fight. You can use me as best as you like with this appearance only and do not make any suggestions which would make me a coward" he said. His companions wanted him to fall a prey to their evil suggestions but his determination remained unshaken. For organising the freedom struggle he travelled twenty to thirty miles a day and sometimes fearlessly passed close by police posts. He performed such heroic deeds compared to which your plans were insignificant. He did not even agree to change the colour of his beard, while you went to the extent of removing your hair and beard.* *Note: Bhai Nidhan Singh of village Chugga, Ferozepur district was sentenced to death in the First Conspiracy case on 13th Dec, 1915, but the death sentence was changed to life imprisonment. He was released and died on 6th December 1936 at Mop. Bhagat Singh: Actually I did not murder Saunders. I was of course accused of having murdered him. I considered it, a great heroic deed and so took the credit for it. I con fessed that I killed Saunders. Whether there was any benefit in it or not, I nevertheless got the credit for the whole deed. Even otherwise there was no escape for me. I: The ideal of a true patriot is never to seek such petty joys of empty credits. For the joy of getting worldly praise you did not hesitate to fall from a higher spiritual ideal, nor did you ever repent over this fall from a much higher ideal. All that you have achieved by this wrong step is some trumpeting of your name and heroism by some papers. You gave up the Guru's personality for false glory and empty ambition. If you felt that you made a mistake you should have, repented and come back to the ideal by maintaing a Sikh-like appearance again. Why did you not do it? Bhagat Singh: I might have kept the Sikh like appearance again, but then I would have lost the friendship and sympathy of my comrade B.K. Dutt. Secondly, I would not have got so much publicity as I am getting now. It is true that my sacrifices are insignificant compared to the sacrifices of the freedom fighters of 1914-15. But after such astounding sacrifices they did not get any publicity or praise in the papers. The Sikh papers had very limited circulation. Even they did not reveal all facts of the heroic deeds of patriots like you, because their timid policy prevented them from writing anything frankly. It is the non-Sikh papers which publicised my name widely and it is through them I have acquired all the glory associated with my name. It is a fact that if I had maintained the Sikh appearance and if I had professed myself to be a Sikh and kept hair and beard the non-Sikh papers would not have written a word about me, just as they did not write a word about you and your companions. Even out of Sikh papers "The Khalsa Akhbar", Lahore, an urdu paper, dared to write something about you. I know it for certain that Hindu papers are always reluctant- to write even a word in praise of Sikh patriots and freedom fighters. They do not like Sikhs being praised for anything. If I had kept hair and beard again and become a Sikh, they would have started belittling me instead of praising me. So I hesitated to keep hair and beard again. I: On judging what you have said, my dear Bhagat Singh, your ideal of patriotism is very. low and frippery. To make such a show of patriotism and service to the country for personal glory is cheap chauvinism and vain jingoism. The patriots of 194-15 movement suffered and saved the country keeping only the selflless service. of the motherland in view. They did not have the slightest thought of such cheap publicity and never even in a dream had any ambition of personal glory. It is only in the company of petty minded and evil-motived people that your mind was misled into such vain, thoughts of personal glory. The seeking of eminence through newspapers, and honour and glory through propaganda are all superficial things about which it is rightly said in the Guru-Granth. Mad are those who trumpet a man's glory, Shameless is he who accepts such fame, He is like a rat who has tied a winnowing basket to his waist, He now finds it impossible even to get into his hole On hearing this Bhagat Singh was deeply moved and said "The ideal of Sikhism is no doubt very high. The world in general hankers after empty glory only. I also drifted in the same passion for personal glory. But today I have realised that all these things are idle exhibition of vanity; conceit and self-glorification. I would have been fortunate if I had got the opportunity of living in close association with you for at least three or four months. If I had got this opportunity to live in your company for three or four months, I would have gained much and all my shortcomings would have disapeared. Now I will do whatever you ask me to do You now want me to become a kesha-dhari Sikh. I now admit that I made a great mistake. Even contrary to this healthy family tradition, I went against the Guru's instructions and showed irreverence to the Sikh symbols. > But there is one more fact, and I would be committing a sin if I conceal it from you. I kept hair and beard merely because there was a long standing tradition in our family to do so. I am very proud to be called a Sikh, But the hard fact is that I am not a Sikh at heart. You will excuse me if I tell you in quite plain terms that at heart I am an atheist. I do not believe in God All my companions know it. With all that I am willing to do anything you ask me to do. If you command me, I will keep hair and beard. Alas! if only I had got the opportunity to stay near you a little longer, you could have changed my atheistic views. I: I am very happy that you have revealed the truth of your inner state of mind and have not concealed what is really in your heart: It is absolutely useless to keep religious symbols like hair and beard while you are an atheist at heart, nor would I be proud of making you do such a thing. I am no more anxious about your coming back to Sikh forms, nor am I sorry that you do not have hair and beard. My only anxiety and wish now is that you should die with faith in God. You will definitely die on the scaffold. It would have been better if your atheism had disappeared before you faced death sentence. Even though you are an atheist remember one thing that you will not die, keep it engraved in your heart that you will not die. You will be born again. Your soul is immortal and ageless. It will never be destroyed. It will be born again and again: Know this for dead certain that you will not die. You will take human birth again. Look within and see what you are? Are you a soul, a spirit (Atman) or first a lump of flesh and blood. Do you think that this self within you which speaks, understands, thinks, reflects on serving humanity and expires after doing great deeds, is nothing beyond bones, blood and flesh and do you think it will end with the end of the body ? No, never your real self will not be destroyed and you will never die". On hearing these words which were uttered in an inspired mood (by the Grace of God), Bhagat Singh stood there mute and inwardly moved. For a moment he lost his physical consciousness and his mind soared high. Speechless, he bowed low, as if some unknown power had taken possession of him. For quite sometime he remained absorbed in deep silence. I shook him with my hands and helped him to stand. On his face there was a strange glow. He came nearer me and stretching his hands through the fence he tried to touch my feet. I held his hands in mine and said that only the Guru's feet are worth worship and not human feet. I helped him to stand up and when he had regained control over himself he said "Your words have pierced my heart like an arrow, my unbelief and faithlessness have been terribly shaken, a magnetic influence has changed my inner being. Deep down in my heart now I believe that I will not die and this belief will remain unshaken in my mind, speech and actions. I am that spirit that death will not destroy. I will not die. After I give up my body I will come again. Until my new birth my Atman will remain in everlasting glory. When I die on the scaffold I will die with a great spiritual joy. I was brave through sheer will power and asserted that I did not care for death. Within my heart was the deep hidden sorrow of complete extinction after death. Whenever this thought came to mind there was darkness before my mind. The thought of being reduced to nothingness after death created a painful void within my heart. Your words have brought a, miraculous change in me. I can now see my future clearly in the light of new consciousness you have given me. The void, created by the thoughts of extinction have disappeared. All doubts and delusions have been dispelled. I have gained much more strength. I will now die with great moral and spiritual courage. Your exalted life has imparted to me the elixir of spirituality and I feel its ennobling influence. I knew one thing about your life that you always say what you have experienced and your words and actions are always in unison. Not only am I convinced that I will not die, and that I am immortal Atman but I am convinced that there is God and you have had a glimpse of Him. So now you will be extremely pleased to learn that your beloved Bhagat Singh is a believer in God and he will die with complete spiritual faith in Sikhism, and according to the Sikh terminology, I will face not death but ascension. The word ascension is a beautiful word and reveals that the soul will rise above the body and go beyond death. After leaving my body my spirit will ascend heavenwards and will never die. It will be born again and will work for the ideal service of the Motherland and the nation. How fruitful has been this meeting with you. * After this significant end of our meeting we greeted each other and parted in blissful silence. It was quite dark now. I was taken to the office from where l was given unconditional release and sent out of the prison under cover of darkness. I boarded the train from Lahore railway station and came to Amritsar. From Amritsar railway station I walked to the Golden Temple. A Government servant had been given to me to help me in my journey. He carried my bag and bedding and attended to all my needs. Near the clock tower the servant waited with my luggage while I went inside and had a dip in the holy tank. It was 1am. There I sat in peaceful solitude meditating on His Name. I enjoyed this solitude very much. After meditation, I had a mind to meet some friends. But on second thought I wanted to keep this pilgrimage to the Golden Temple a secret. I knew that if I met some friends there will be unnecessary noise of jubilation about the release and a good deal of trumpeting through processions. I was tempted many times to go and meet Gyani Nahar Singh and Gyani Harbhajan Singh in the Malwai Bunga, but I overcame the temptation. Until day break I enjoyed the divine Kirtan of the Golden Temple. Then quietly I slipped out of Amritsar and resumed my journey to Ludhiana. Vah Guru ji ka Khalsa Vah Guru ji ki Fateh. Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir Singh *Note: At Bhagat Singh's death Sikh rites were performed by a sikh patriot. He had kept the promise of keeping hair and beard. Blitz, Bombay published a photograph on 26th March, 2949 which was taken a few hours before his death.
  20. Good Job Vicky Singh... chakde fattey :wub:
  21. I searched this pdf file, and it does not have anything about Bhagat Singh.
  22. You can read the autobiography of Bhai Randhir Singh at the link below but i'm not sure if it has the chapter where he wrote about his and Bhagat Singh's meeting. I had a pdf file of this chapter but i misplaced it somewhere. if i find it, i'll post it. http://www.tapoban.org/JAIL_CHHITHIAN.pdf
  23. Dear Darcy, please click on the link below to read the story of this man: http://www.sikhnet.com/sikhnet/youth.nsf/3...33;OpenDocument
  24. Dear Darcy, welcome to the forum! Bhai Gurdas Ji in his Bani Wrote: "charan sharan gur aik paida jaye chal, satguru kot paida aage hoye lait hai." meaning: If you take one, but one steps towards the Guru, Guru takes one million steps towards you. Now you have taken your first step towards the Guru and Guru has already taken one million steps towards you :wub:
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