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Though they lived for lacs of years but they would NOT construct the palaces, forts and grand mansions.

Akaal!

Khalsa Ji, please try gurmat.com, Shaadi.com, and any other site you can think of.

I guess that's makes me VERY distinguished then!

The funny thing is, Rihanna said why aren't we talking about this, not giving a full on statement. This was enough to make Modi and Co soil their pants!!

Historically, Singhs would marry Hindu women

People gonna do what they want at the end of the day.

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Not really. Firstly (again) one is exhibitionist, the other is a proper traditional lethal fighting art. The other thing is that you'll pick up a lot of bad habits from gatka. You'll literally have to unlearn all those bad habits first.

Errrm...why?.

And as I said before, I'm more than happy to entertain a conversation from the sangat who is pro gatka. If you feel I'm missing the trick here, please do share...

Fine tuning is one thing brother. But what you're talking about is reinventing the wheel. It's the equivalent of using a caravan to build a skyscraper. Other than twirling a stick around and cutting up sabji, what does gatka really have to offer? There is no battle strategy, no history, no depth, absolutely nothing. I apologise if it seems like I'm berating gatka in a very cruel way, especially to those kids on this forum who are practising it. As I said before, if gatka is your only source of sangat, please continue going. But for those people on this forum who are a little older or have martial arts experience, let's stop kidding ourselves here...

Problem isn't with gatka teachers, problem is with gatka itself.

Why? We should never be afraid to discuss different things. Just because a scared pigeon closes it's eyes, doesn’t mean the cat's disappeared...

Please read previous posts. Gatka is an exhibitionist art only. No practical application.

Intact, I believe that later on, Baba Sri Chand Ji Maharaj also met with Chaitanya Mahaprabhu Ji.

Gurdev Nidar Singh learnt from Baba Mohinder Singh nihang, who learnt from the well known Baba Gian Singh Nihang (Rabb Ji). Yes, he did come across him randomly, something which he says in his interviews. He has not recompiled the art. In fact, he spent a long time finding other practioners. And whilst there were a few nihangs who heard of the art, there aren't any masters. During partition, Giana Rabb Ji taught some basic moves to the Singhs so they could protect themselves. Now there are some gatka akharas who claim lineage from Baba Gian Singh ji based on this. They do not have the full Vidiya (or any real battlefield Vidiya to be quite frank). I did gatka for a year before I came to Shastar Vidiya. And the thing I loved and still admire about gatka akharas is the sangat. It's good if you have no other sangat. If it inspires you to be closer to your Sikhi, that is great. But understand it's not the real deal. Never has been, never will be. I know people who practice gatka, and never discourage them, because I do not want the paap of breaking their sangat on my head ?? Do we have any gatka practioners on this forum? Would love to hear from you regarding this.

Do you know of any other teachers of Shastar Vidiya? If so, would you kindly share here ji? And which "money first" attitude are you referring to? Since the Akhara has become more established, and the services provided by the Akhara (Gurdev ji travelling worldwide, publishing of books, interviews/seminars etc.), there will of course be a monetary element involved to sustain such ventures. And there is nothing wrong with this. Are you taking in to account the students he teaches for free because they can't afford lessons? Or more to the point, do you even know about this? I think not. I myself back in the day would train with students who trained for free. On to your final point. Full of hankaar. Based on what? Every individual has their own temperament. And I for one do not have a "universal metre stick" which I use to measure everyone's avgun and judge whether or not they can teach the Vidiya. Have all your teachers been brahmgyanis? The mother is the first teacher of the children. You have children. Should one then assert that you are unworthy of teaching your children because you are "full of hankaar" (hypothetically speaking of course)? Please, let us not split hairs with this. Time and time again over the years I hear the same thing with regards to Gurdev Nidar Singh Ji. Your grievances with him have nothing to do with the Vidiya, but with his ideology (which is not entirely different if you go through it properly). And again, it goes back to the same point. Gatka is an exhibitionist art, nothing more. Shastar Vidiya is the real deal.

Without addressing attacks on his personal life, the main point still stands. Gatka is nothing more than an exhibitionist art, with no real practical application in a battle. Shastar Vidiya is the real deal. Even if you just look at it from a martial arts perspective. I tell you, if (hypothetically) he changed his ideology and started shouting Khalistan Zindabad slogans, you'd all be more accepting of the vidiya. The doubts people place on the Vidiya have got nothing to do with the Vidiya itself, but personal grievances against his ideology. And unless our community can be mature enough to separate the two, we're never going to grow as a martial kaum...

This meeting happened when Guru Nanak Sahib Ji Maharaj went to Jagannathh puri (where he then composed Aarti). They both met (as religious leaders do), had respect for each other and did kirtan together. Now, whilst in Sikh books we don't have mention of the meeting itself, it has been recorded in the history of the "Hare Krishanas" (as they're commonly known), where they mention that a saint by the name of "Nanak" and his disciple who was a bard (referring to Bhai Mardana Ji) met with Chaitanya Mahaprabhu.

Bump! Any update? Any thing anyone can to do help?

I'd be extremely surprised if they don't have backups...

Bump @ADMIN - can we pin/prioritise this until this is resolved? Thanks

Apparently their twitter and website is also gone too!!!

The Basics of Sikhi YouTube account has been hacked and videos removed. If anyone knows how to help, please contact them ASAP. Dhanvad Ji ??