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Bhai Dharam Singh Ji

Just because we have some dumb Jatts who have contributed to the demise of Sikhi, this does not make them all backward land and power grabbing loonies. Ignoring for a moment the involvement of Sikhs in the British Army, which I'm also not against, there have been many more examples of Jatts as THEE greatest Sikh Generals in history, but envious posters fail to see these contributions. I can reel of a long list but do not have the time at present.

Yes, in this age all Bhagats were delivered via Gurmukh Naam: ਕਲਜੁਗਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਪ੍ਰਧਾਨੁ ਪਦਾਰਥੁ ਭਗਤ ਜਨਾ ਉਧਰੇ ॥ ਨਾਮਾ ਜੈਦੇਉ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਤ੍ਰਿਲੋਚਨੁ ਸਭਿ ਦੋਖ ਗਏ ਚਮਰੇ ॥ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਨਾਮਿ ਲਗੇ ਸੇ ਉਧਰੇ ਸਭਿ ਕਿਲਬਿਖ ਪਾਪ ਟਰੇ ॥2॥

How did the Sikhs during Guru Sahibs time and up to the advent of Nanakshahi Calendar celebrate Gurupurabs. They all used Bikrami, which is good enough for me.

4 odd terrorists attacking a base on this scale are either suffering from dementia or the whole story is skewed at many levels and this we know is a speciality of GOI to fool the masses into blaming Sikhs or Muslims, never themselves. Had they gone in as suicide bombers it might be believable. The other amusing bit of the story is that the might of the India Army including helicopters are struggling to oust a huge army of......2.

Slough is a good example of this and some Gurdwarey up North. In a Utopian world, a full size professionally supervised sports centre for the larger Gurudwarey.

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thanks for the links, the blog rarely touches their life...I'll ask around.

Is there any information on Thakur Singh, what can one say about the voice, out of this world..I've heard of the Almast name, but would like to read up on their history!

not a subject I've explored in any detail, but you have to forgive me that made me chuckle.

why the need to have BEADBI next to the What's Happening title?

Very much doubt this theory. The man is what we need to control, only once it is under our control can it have a pass to dargah. How can a maila man, which has not erased its previous karams reach Vaheguru? If the soul leaves the body is that not the end of the body?

Uchi Jeevan Vale Gursikhs stay within hukam. Even if they knew in advance, (mamooli gal hai) for someone of their stature, they would let the course of history play out per hukam.

What individuals want to do is up to them, but as a 'Sikh' and as a minimum we should be following the Maryada which describes the naming ceremony. Here is a copy paste from SikhAnswers. In addition to the naming ceremony it is beneficial to give 'Gurti' to the young child preferably soon after the birth. Sikh ceremonies are not rituals or occasions for the display of affluence and ego, but acts of thanks-giving and prayer, suited to the occasion. There is no ceremony at the time of the birth of the child in a Sikh family, even though the event produces a feeling of joy among the near relatives. However, when the mother and the child are in a position to move about, say a few weeks after the birth, the family takes the opportunity of performing the Naming Ceremony. Below is a description of Naam Sanskaar or “Naming Ceremony” in accordance to the Panthic Sikh Rehat Maryada: CEREMONIES PERTAINING TO BIRTH AND NAMING OF A CHILD (ਜਨਮ ਤੇ ਨਾਮ-ਸੰਸਕਾਰ) ੳ) ਸਿੱਖ ਦੇ ਘਰ ਬਾਲਕ ਦਾ ਜਨਮ ਹੋਣ ਮਗਰੋਂ ਜਦ ਮਾਤਾ ਉਠਣ ਬੈਠਣ ਤੇ ਇਸ਼ਨਾਨ ਕਰਨ ਦੇ ਯੋਗ ਹੋਵੇ ਤਾਂ (ਦਿਨਾਂ ਦੀ ਕੋਈ ਗਿਣਤੀ ਮੁਕੱਰਰ ਨਹੀਂ) ਟੱਬਰ ਤੇ ਸੰਬੰਧੀ ਗੁਰਦੁਆਰੇ ਕੜਾਹ ਪ੍ਰਸ਼ਾਦਿ ਲੈ ਕੇ ਜਾਣ ਜਾਂ ਕਰਾਉਣ ਅਤੇ ਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਦੇ ਹਜ਼ੂਰ ‘ਪਰਮੇਸਿਰ ਦਿਤਾ ਬੰਨਾ’ (ਸੋਰਿਠ ਮ: ੫) ‘ਸਿਤਗੁਰੂ ਸਾਚੈ ਦੀਆ ਭੇਜਿ’ (ਆਸਾ ਮ:੫) ਆਦਿ ਖੁਸ਼ੀ ਤੇ ਧੰਨਵਾਦ ਵਾਲੇ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਪੜ੍ਹਨ, ਉਪ੍ਰੰਤ, ਜੇਕਰ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਜੀ ਦਾ ਪਾਠ ਰੱਖਿਆ ਹੋਵੇ ਤਾਂ ਪਾਠ ਦਾ ਭੋਗ ਪਾਇਆ ਜਾਵੇ, ਫਿਰ ਵਾਕ ਲਿਆ ਜਾਵੇ। ਵਾਕ ਦੇ ਅਰੰਭ ਦੇ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਦਾ ਜੋ ਪਿਹਲਾ ਅੱਖਰ ਹੋਵੇ, ਉਸ ਤੋਂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥੀ ਸਿੰਘ ਬੱਚੇ ਦਾ ਨਾਮ ਤਜਵੀਜ਼ ਕਰੇ ਅਤੇ ਸੰਗਤ ਦੀ ਪ੍ਰਵਾਨਗੀ ਲੈ ਕੇ ਨਾਮ ਪ੍ਰਗਟ ਕਰੇ। ਲੜਕੇ ਦੇ ਨਾਉਂ ਪਿੱਛੇ ‘ਸਿੰਘ’ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਅਤੇ ਲੜਕੀ ਦੇ ਨਾਮ ਪਿੱਛੇ ‘ਕੌਰ’ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਲਗਾਇਆ ਜਾਵੇ। ਉਪ੍ਰੰਤ, ਅਨੰਦ ਸਾਹਿਬ (ਛੇ ਪਉੜੀਆਂ) ਮਗਰੋਂ ਬੱਚੇ ਦੇ ਨਾਮ ਸੰਸਕਾਰ ਦੀ ਖੁਸ਼ੀ ਦਾ ਯੋਗ ਸ਼ਬਦਾਂ ਵਿੱਚ ਅਰਦਾਸਾ ਕਰ ਕੇ ਕੜਾਹ ਪ੍ਰਸ਼ਾਦਿ ਵਰਤਾਇਆ ਜਾਵੇ। “(a) In a Sikh’s household, as soon after the birth of a child as the mother becomes capable of moving about and taking bath (irrespective of the number of days which that takes), the family and relatives should go to a Gurdwara with Karhaah Prashaad (sacred pudding) or get Karhaah Prashaad made in the Gurdwara and recite in the holy presence of the Guru Granth Sahib such hymns as “Parmeshar ditaa banaa” {Sorath M. 5} (The Almighty Lord has granted support, [sorath M. 5, Guru Granth Sahib Ang 628]); “Satguru sache dia bhej” {Asa M. 5} (The true Lord has sent this gift [Asa M. 5, Guru Granth Sahib Ang 396]) that are expressive of joy and thankfulness. Thereafter if a reading of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji had been taken up, that should be concluded. Then the holy Hukam (command) should be taken. A name starting with the first letter of the Shabad of the Hukam (command) should he proposed by the Granthi (man in attendance of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji) and, after its acceptance by the congregation, the name should be announced by him. The boy’s name must have the suffix “Singh” and the girl’s, the suffix “Kaur”. After that the Anand Sahib (short version comprising six stanzas) should be recited and the Ardas in appropriate terms expressing joy over the naming ceremony be offered and the Karhah Prashad distributed.” The Hukam or command taken at the Naming ceremony is a Hukam for the child and parents, which Guru Jee’s guidance and instruction. From the Hukam (command), the first letter from the first word of the shabad is used to choose a name. When choosing a name, such a name should be picked which is inspiring and uplifting because a name affects the child in later life. Picking one a name using the letter giving by Guru Ji, the parents receive the Guru’s blessings. When the name is chosen by the parents and approved by the Granthi (the Sikh man or woman in attendance of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji) then it should be announced to the Saadh Sangat, congregation. On announcing it to the congregation, someone should shout, ‘Bole So Nihaal: Sat Sree Akaal!’ (Whosoever responds to this call shall be blessed: True is the Immortal Lord). This signifies the congregation has accepted the name.

agreed

Jujhar Joravar Jodha Jodhbir Jangbir Japji Jugaad Jeevan Japnaam

No need to go as far as reading Sri Guru Granth Sahib, although I'm not stopping you. All the answers are in Japji Sahib.

1. The Panthic Sikh Rehat Maryada explains how to take a Hukamnama: CHAPTER-VI Taking Hukam* (Command) Article VII (*Hukam:- Reading or Reading out to others, including the congregation, of a Shabad (hymns) or a unit of one or more saloks (short scriptural compositions normally of two to four lines) and a pauri (short stanza of four or more lines) from Guru Granth Sahib Ji after, or even without performing, Ardaas is an important Sikh ritual. It is called “Hukam laina” (Taking the order or command), “Vaak laina” (taking the word), “Awaaz laina” (taking the voice). The hymn or unit goes by the name of “Hukam” (order, command) “Vaak” (uttered Word) or “Awaaz” (voice). a. Doing obeisance to Guru Granth Sahib Ji, respectfully, taking a glimpse of the congregation, an embodiment of the Guru’s person, and taking the command : these together constitute the view of the Satguru (Immortal destroyer of darkness, the true guru). Raising the drapery covering the Guru Granth Sahib and merely taking a look or making others take a look at the exposed Ang (respectful word for page), without taking command (reading the prescribed hymn) is contrary to Gurmat (Guru’s way). b. In the course of the congregational sessions, only one thing should be done at a time : performing of kirtan, delivering of discourse, interpretative elaboration of the scriptures, or reading of the scriptures. c. Only a Sikh, man or woman, is entitled to be in attendance of Guru Granth Sahib Ji during the congregational session. d. Only a Sikh may read out from Guru Granth Sahib Jifor others. However, even a non- Sikh may read from it for himself/herself. e. For taking the command (Hukam), the hymn (shabad) that is continuing on the top of the left hand Ang must be read from the beginning. If the hymn begins on the previous Ang, turn over the Ang and read the whole hymn from the beginning to the end. If the scriptural composition that is continuing on the top of the left hand Ang is a vaar (ode) then start from the first of the saloks preceding the pauri and read upto the end of the pauri. Conclude the reading at the end of the Hymn with the line in which the name ‘Nanak’ occurs. f. Hukam must also be taken at the conclusion of the Congregational session or after the Ardaas. 2. The Granthi Singh's should take the Hukam randomly, the time of day or occasion should not play a deciding role and also not always from Sorath Raag like we witness at some Gurdwarey. This way, when the hukam is taken becomes irrelevant as we then leave it up to the Guru to decide what vaak they would like the Sangat to take laha from.

No why would Sikhs hate, pretty strong word to use for someone who does not believe in a higher being, but what's that saying ' you don't meet too many atheists in a death zone'

you must be referring to the video that surfaced in India a few years ago to the OP If the person performing the test is one with Vaheguru and has opened their own dasam duar, then the raffle will prove a success, not otherwise. Apparently they churn out 50-80 Brahmgianis per year so should not be too hard.

should be more optimistic, what would you rather have FN?

This is the tip of the iceberg. 3HO have been a money making machine thanks to the now deceased Faustian Yogi (Harbhajan) and his clever marketing techniques. They have businesses worth hundreds of millions if not more.

It was not only the likes of Brar and Gill who killed their own. Many sold their souls to the devil for temporary positions of authority, for money or other short term gains and some are living comfortably in places like Canada and the UK. Pinky's recent interviews are testament to this and if he is not himself killed in a fake encounter I'm sure he will reveal the names of more Sikhs who betrayed their own. This type of treachery on has made history as previous attempts to thwart Sikh uprisings normally came in the guise of cleverness by people from other faiths, mainly Hindus.