Baldeep Singh

Yup I recorded it

Gurfateh, Does anyone have pics of Shaheed Bhai Sukha and Jindas Parents? Your help will be appreciated.

Vahegurooo Jee Kaaa Khalsaaaah, Vaheguroooo Jeeee keeee fateeeeeh.. Yes, I cammed it back in June and just got round to transferrring the footage to my PC yesterday evening. If anyone wants the DVD please let me know and I will post it out to ya.. please note that I am UK based. Baldeep Singh. Gurfateh.

Gurfateh, Isnt it interesting on one side of their coin they demean other faiths, call them false and target specific youths for conversions due to their missionary needs, however when other faiths try to educate and to defend themselves. What do they do under threat use? Gang mentality techniques against elderly folks that the Gurdwarah as they are fully aware that not many youths attend!

Please read the following article. http://www.gazette.net/stories/090606/ente...634_31944.shtml Another article http://www.bcsikhyouth.com/2006/widow-colo...umentary-award/ Website http://thewidowcolony.com/index.php?p=home...;show=lotrailer

Gurfateh, I wish to relate to you all that are readig this the events that accurred on Monday the 14 August. As we are very well aware what occurred due to terrorist threats over the weekend and the flights being at standstill. Anyhow, my mother was flying out from Manchester airport via US Airways and I wish to take you through the duration of events: 14 Aug 2006 8am : Dropped mother (aged 59 years) off at manchester airport Between the above and below time, mum checked in went through imigigration and metal detectors. The security removed toothpaste and facial cream from my mum possession. 11am : Flight due to depart. 11.20am two police officers (one male and female) board the plane whilst the plane is full and remove mum off the plane. Take mum to a small didgy room and provide mum with no drink nor food. approx 2.30pm is released after mums belongings are checked. Mum enquires about flight, police officer states its gone and to enquire at US Airways desk (which is closed). Mum asks what now, they (police) inform mum to call back at 8am and leave her there. At this point mum rings me and tells me everything. I get the number of the US Airways, speak to a representative and she informs me taht the plane is still there due to maintenance. 4pm Arrive at Manchester Airport with my wife and father. Go down to the Information Desk who inform me that the flight has just gone! Ask to speak to the US Airways Manager called Darley Williams. 5.30pm US Airways manager turns up all apologetic! I say we not asking for a apology, we are asking for an explanation WHY, she was removed from the plane by two police officers in a such a humilating and indignified manner! Finally after half hour she says the following: 1. Persons Origin, I ask her to ellaborate, she states Pakistani 2. Skin Colour 3. Asian Surname She states that it is nothing to do with her or the airline but the police (Special Branch!) We asked for compensation for the inconvenience she was having non-of-it!!!! She said taht she if we wants compensation we need to contact their customer relations who are in AMERICA!!! I said call me on my mobile and provide me with the e-mail address and number which she never did and we phoned her at 9.30pm and she promised that she would be at the US Airways desk to meet us in the morning which she never did!!! On arriving at home.. my wife spoke to the police and mentioned the above the three points and asked wouldnt you say this was discrimination? The police officer responded I wouldnt disagree with you. My wife mentioned that Darley said it was the police who instigated everything. The police stated NO this was all the airways doing and they are just trying to pass the blame on. Then we spoke to Darley and mentioned the above (obviously she did not have a clue and was trying to ween herself out of a sticky situation) . Then my wife laughed at her down the phone because we were getting no where! Then Darley puts the phone down on us. The next day I go back to work, my dad and wife drop mum off at 8 am. My wife phones me up and states that two guys are following mum around and I asked my Singhini to ask them who they are. My wife goes up to them and asks them and they state they are security. They check mums suitcase again! At this point I am annoyed next day (Wednesday) BBC come round to my house and record statements and chase up statements from US Airways and the Police. Yesterdays Metro Paper on Page 7 article, Human rights may be sacrificed, says Reid (John, The Home Secretarty). Hes not kidding!!! "INDIVIDUAL human rights may have to be sacrificed to protect the wider public from terrorism!", Johh Reid warned yesterday.

Veerjee, I am not disputing the ill-treatment by muslims to sikhs and their nature... What I am emphasising is facts and my experience. Muslims will do it infront of you ... hindus will do it behind your back! The legendary ex- prime minister of UK Sir Winston Churchill himself referred to the Hindus as what? A "foul race"! In 1945 Sir Churchill on board HMS Orion and after reading Beverley Nichol's : Verdict on India, he wrote to his beloved wife, professing the following : "Meantime we are holding onto this vast Empire, from which we get nothing, amid the increasing criticism and abuse of the world and our own people and increasing hatred of the Indian population, who receive constant and deadly propaganda to which we make no reply!" You see even Sir Churchill witnessed a shocking insight into the world of Hindus, modern Hinduism and the Hindu propaganda machine. Todays modern Hindu Prophet is in the form of Mohandas Gandhi and a huge myth has been built up around him that he is whiter than white, a "Mahatma"! I would like to present KDS 1980 with quotes from Gandhi's 100 mamoth volume autobiography where he negates the Khalsa, the bana, Desh mesh pita, Sri Guru Granth Sahibjee, the Zulus by referring to them as Kaffirs, and Sh*ting on the untouchables. Gandhi never hid his feelings as he outrightly expressed them in his writings, just that modern gandhians want to present this immoral individual as a modern prophet of freedom and peace. I wish to apologise but after watching the documentary it just brings back home truths and how the British under the guidance of the Hindus are cunningly re-writing history and dismissing the facts that the Sikhs themselves made any significant contributions towards the Hindus Independance and what the sacrifices and losses that the Sikhs occurred before, during and after independance - these historical facts are not being presented but have been maliciously disregarded.

I agree with you its a good documentary... is that the <banned word filter activated> Mark Tully doing the commentary. WHat an a**hole calling the shaheeds of 84 terrorists, and saying that guru nanak dev sahibjee wrote the Guru Granth Sahib when it was Sri Guru Arjan Dev Sahibjee and also stating That Desh mesh pita was buried at Anandpur Sahib. Obviously goes to show he knows jack! Next time when I go to India I will make a documentary on the Nihangs [Harian Bela].

You should become a stand up comedian. Yea, I noticed alot of blokes punjabis as well as hindus out there do alot crotch grabbing to themselves and holding another blokes hand. @ Tell me whats that all about. Two words dirty *%$£"!rds. Is this wot you define as western culture! Or are you going by what bollywood films are depicting (NB I dont watch that rubbish "Hindi movies" and alot of gurmukhs here in the UK, USA and Canada regard it as obscene and immoral ). Yea I did go to Chandigarh, that city is "very forward" and you may refer to the youth as "Modern". Boys and girls holding hands and showing affection to one another openly... embrassing and shameful! A warped version of "western culture". I was impressed by the "rose garden" and "rock garden"... yea right ... boriiiiiiinnnnnggggg! :wub: If that was the case why did a bhaijeee about 20years old approach me inside sis ganj gurdwara which is in the heart of Delhi .. where I was wearing my bana ... which included : 1. Huge Dumalla.. 2. panj kakaars 3. Flowing Chola He approached me and said "Fateh, Bhaijee, I am pleased to see you" I responded "Fateh, veerjee, feelings mutual" Bhaijee complemented me by saying "You look amazing in your bana, I had to meet you" I felt gratified as well as humbled by his complementary words I replied "This is my Gurus form, he has blessed me with it... there is no-one on this planet that is as beautiful as my Gurmukh brothers and sisters and my Guru" Veerjees reply was "It amazes me that you are proud to wear your bana and say such sweet words... the youth here disregard the bana and gurus khalsa roop and regard it as backward.. instead they wear jeans and shirts and trim their beards and regard this as modern... " I went onto talk about the so-called "modern" or as Hindu government refers to em as "moderate" sikhs, donkeys calling themselves lions. As I said bhaijee your words are like water off a ducks back.. they are baseless. Look this topic is not about the state of India nor your mind.. its about the documentary - obviously you didnt watch it ... so you shouldn't really be commenting on this thread. :

1. Have you been to Pakistan? Well I have and the Islamic state treats the Sikhs in "high regard" how do I know this because in 2003... I did a Yatra there ... With my own eyes I have seen at Kartarpur Sahib muslims doing langar ke sewa? Doing joray di sewa and jaaping naam! I stayed at Nankana Sahib the military/police officials there were the most welcoming and most respectful than those in India ... one of them even allowed me to hold his rifle. When ever have you seen a Hindu at any gurdwara doing this ? 2. I recently visited india.. I was present at a wedding in Nawashahr and the punjab police were most discourteous towards me especially wearing my bana.. why was there so much disregard towards me. answer my question. The Hindus spoke to me in an arrogant voice ... Idder Ao! COME HERE! |Why is this? answer my question. 3. NO! a Hindu (dog) cannot because : Firstly, he wouldnt have the balls Secondly, a muslim loves their faith more than themselves than the land they stand on Thirdly, do you love your faith as much as you love Hindustan from the way you chatting! answer my question. Sir Jave to Jave Mera Hindustan na jave, right!? 4. A Sikh in the 80s did start speaking out against the Human Rights abusing being made against the Gursikhs/Sikhs at that time by the Hindus look at what happened to him and the Gursikhs around him! Please visit the following site http://www.searchsikhism.com/gal8.html Your question is like a water off a ducks back!

Thanks for your reply, however the above statement you can apply to India also... have you been recently? Secular India? Hindustans strategic corruption of minority states, faiths and nations [whats left of em]? A base and haven for internaiotnal terrorists being one of them - RSS, Shiv Sena, BJP, Congress just to name a few.

Did anyone watch this last night? It was interesting for the following reasons : 1. The Sikh contribution to the history of the so-called Indias Independence was neglected. 2. There was one bloke in a so called sikh attire - a trim singh! Helping Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi. ! We all know that during them days majority of Sikhs donned the dastaar/pugh and kept kes ! 3. Master Tara Singh or any form of sikh official was removed from the documentary as a representative and contributor towards Indias liberation from the British! 4. Interesting conversation in the documentary between Gandhi and Mountbatten, Jinnah [leader of All India Muslim League and father of Pakistan] and Mountbatten - Gandhi did not want Pakistan to goto the muslims, which contained of Lahore - Gandhi asked Mountbatten "We are willing to offer Jinnah, the seat of the of Prime Minister, this will make him the first Prime Minister of India, but he will need to reject the notion of Partition!" - When this was offered on a plate to Jinnah by Manbatten [who was a go between], Jinnah replied : "Forsaking my faith and nation for a so-called seat of power of India and what will happen to my people when I die...?" Mountbatten replies back "what do you mean?" Jinnah elaborates "When a Hindu shakes my hand, straight afterwards they run to the toilet to wash them!" Mountbatten looks at him with empathy. - At the speech when independance occurred Gandhi was there, jinnah was there, mountbatten was there, but no person representing Master Tara Singh within the documentary ... as he presented a speech to All India Radio. You gotta hand it to Jinnah, he knew what Gandhu and Nehru agenda was, how do we know this because he clearly said to Master Tara Singh "You will become the slaves of the hindus your masters". Look at that logic ... look where the sikhs are today, our history is being taken away from us, our language has become secondary in punjab, our rights have been abused and misused and land is been taken away from us - Haryana and Utter Pradesh. Baldev Singh was present at the official radio broadcast over "All India Radio" on the 3 June 1947 when he informed Indians about Hindustan and the Sikhs, heres a transcript I have obtained from [Dr. Rajendra Prasad, Correspondence and selected documents, Vol. 7, pg. 505] : "It will be idle for me to pretend that the day is bright and joyous as indeed we might well have hoped it would be. It will be untrue if I say we are altogether happy. Seldom perhaps has a fulfilment like this been tarnished with so much of fear and sorrow. I say, seldom, because, even though we struggled and even though the struggle was long and heavy, our common quest for freedom need never have divided and torn us as under one from another. This has actually taken place. The shadow of our differences has thrown its gloom over us… It is not a compromise. I prefer to call it a settlement. It does not please everybody, not the Sikh community anyway!"

AKHAND KIRTANEE JATHA ALL THE WAY BAYBEEEEEE VAHEGUROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

The Independence of India: Days That... At the stroke of midnight on August 14th 1947, the ruling British Empire relinquished its iron grip on the impervious Indian nation as it handed over governance of India to its people. As the impending mood of festivity approached midnight, celebrations across the country turned sour. The inevitable fight between the warring religions began to reach its climax, leaving a web of irretrievable devastation and destruction in its path, the impact of which still reverberates across the subcontinent to this day. [AD,S] Mon 20 Mar, 20:30-21:00 30mins Stereo Widescreen I wonder if they will say anything about "Hindus got Hindustan, the Muslims got Pakistan, what did the Sikhs get?"

I heard that bhai manjeet singh from glasgow was there... wheres his mp3

"lack of understanding" that is what I was referring to and I was also in the same shoes as you a few years back (and I dont mean literally)

I accidentally came across this site. http://www.sikhnextdoor.org/video.html There are three videos on this site, check 'em out. What I found interest is that a bibi called manpreet kaur refers to Guru Granth Sahibjee as "our holy book". Man when will our people learn so that they can teach others.

That is probably the most truest predication of bollywood I have ever seen ... it shows the true essence of what the stupidity of bollywood is in its pure entirety. For me, it tells me how pathetic the whole industry is and that they are all insanely twisted. Thanks Nama Singh ... awesome link.

Vaheguroooo jeee kaaa khalsaaa, vahegurooo jeee keeee fateeeeeh! I have just purchased todays yorkshire evening post and the following article appeared in it: Hopefully the GOI will see these pics and articles and come to their senses and release the innocent detainees and stop the inhuman torture and human rights abuses.

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Vaheguroooo jeee kaaa khalsaaa, vaheguroo jeee keee fateeeeh! A few photos that were taken in Leeds a muslim bibi

Vahegurooo Jee Kaaa khalsaaah, Vahegurooo Jeee keee fateeeh! What in the Naam of God is going on here! I have just been to this idiots website!! www.dasdharamonline.com This thief in white has plagerised Sikhi and changed it rehit! In an attempt to deceive the ignorant and kill the Khalsa Panth. Kurta/Shirt - White Pyjamas/Trouser- White Belt - White Shoes - Black Dastar / Turban - White( for people who have long hair.) What the hell is this rehit about! I ask ya it sound more like Saturday Night Fever "His Holiness Huzur Mahraz Darshan Das Ji is true prophet of devotional bumility and love" What is Satguru Nanak! Devotees are not allowed to bow their heads and touch His Holiness lotus feet. Instead devotees are encouraged to clasp their hand together and greet His Holiness with the divine word of "NANAK DHAM CHARTI KALA TERE BHANE SARBAT DA BHALA. " I like the way these nakla baba, sants, mahapursh or whatever, put their right hand up as if too say give me five The reason why apnay dont understand Sri Satguru Granth Sahibji is that they dont pay attention and remain focused instead their minds run in tangents.. I have been into sikhi for approximately last three years and initially getting into sikhi, I didnt understand one word from SatGuru Granth Sahibji. After being recommended by a fellow Gursikh to attend rensbhai keertans ... I have a far better grasp of Gurbani now than I could have ever imagined. I have been to these radhasoamis prior to getting into sikhi, they target on the ignorant and the blind. They know that Sri Satguru Granth Sahibjee is the key to gaining divine bliss and all they are doing is using it to gain worldly power and riches! They dont have any type of divine or spiritual knowledge they are just plagerising it! Das Ashwinder, you have come from a "very Gursikh family", you should be ashamed of yourself and your family as you have stated are gursikh should be utterly be ashamed of themselves! Allowing this to happen, for leaving the True Satguru for a fake one... they are not Gurmukh they are Beymukhs and so are you for turning your back on your guru! MODERATOR!!! STOP THIS VILE THREAD NOW!

Dhan O Dhan O Sri Satguru Nanak Devjee... If you didnt come into my life I would not be here . Joth roop har aap guroo naanak kehaayo || The Embodiment of Light, the Lord Himself is called Guru Nanak.

Vaheguroooo Jeee Kaaaa Khalsaaaah, Vaheguroooo Jeee Keee Fateeeh! Bhai-o and Peyn-o, To watch Bhai Roop Singhs speech following this link Roop Singhaaaa, to see the remaining speeches click here O Kiddah! :e: Baldeep Singh

Vahegurooooooooooooooooooooooooo I cant even express my gratitude.