mohinder pal

I think we have mahan Scholars here in SIKHSANGAT who are far better in giving examples of Gurbani.

Looking at our Side, we should also be aware of the fact even though SGGSJI and Shri Guru Dasam Granth was written by our Satgurus yet we raise doubts on the authenticity of the Gurbani. Looking at the above posts, it was correctly prophesied by Vedas or Rishis and Munis. Looking for the Evidence which is in the Suraj Parkash Granth where in It is clearly mentioned when Nanua Pandit read vedas and found out that there would be a Birth of a PURAN Parmershwar Akal Jot in the form of Dhan Dhan Guru Nanak Dev ji; Nanua thought HE is the GUru Nanak Dev ji(becuase his name was somehow related to GUru Nanak Dev ji) also he already knew all 4 vedas, shasters and smrities orally and had immense knowldege of Relgions. Many people started worshipping him without relizing the fact that He is fake. Then Guru Nanak Dev ji along with Mardana and Bala went to Haridwar side and met with Nanua and had a Sidh Ghost type of Conversation. then Nanua told to all that Guru Nanak Dev ji is not me and asked for forgiveness from Guru Nanak Dev ji.

Maharaj ji is telling only and only one Thing in SGGSji and also in Shri Dasam Granth Ji, i.e HAR KA NAAM MERE MANN BHAVTA HAI, VAHO VAHO KYA KHOOB GAVTA HAI

SInce Guru Gobind SIngh ji Maharaj was Akal Purakh Jot, thus he had authority to point to mistakes which earlier avtaars made. But we are not even sikh and should avoid doing Ninda of Avtaars(of any religion) and be more concerned about ourselfs(of Our life boat which is sunk). Give Respect to Others, If you want the same in Return.

SOme can control this urge and some cannot. It all depends on which avasthaa is he in. We cannot Interpret this avasthaa because we have not felt it. koeI AwKY BUqnw ko khY byqwlw ] koeI AwKY AwdmI nwnku vycwrw ]1] BieAw idvwnw swh kw nwnku baurwnw ] hau hir ibnu Avru n jwnw ]1] rhwau ]

Have you heard of Word Called "MASTANA" in Gurbani; if not please please ask any Puran Sant Mahapursh what is the avastha of a Mastana

Jida Vishvash(Faith) Vada, Ohda Guru Vada.

kysw kw kir cvru Fulwvw crx DUiV muiK lweI ]1] rhwau ] kaysaa kaa kar chavar dhulaavaa charan Dhoorh mukh laa-ee. ||1|| rahaa-o. I make my hair into a fan, and wave it over them; I apply the dust of their feet to my face. ||1||Pause||

Her name was Ganika

Whaeguru Waheguru...

Veerji YOU WOn

Mirror Veerji, you are correct from one side but this Shabad can be compare to Our Guru Sahibaan's Life also what was Bhai Lehna ji before receiving Guruship from Guru Nanak Dev ji. What was Guru Ramdas before receiving Guruship from Guru Amardas ji. if we read Suraj Prakash granth, we can find infinte examples How from Guru Nanak dev ji till SGGSji ...TESTS were conducted before passing Guruship to another.

Fully Agree with Mehtab singh ji.

I think You are taking it very Personal here veerji. I never wanted to offend you. Its your destiny and luck if you do not want to read the ebook of sant mahapursh. I just wanted to tell that it will give more insight detailed Information of Bhagats with GURBANI quotes Har Har Jan Duee Ayk Hai(n) Bib Bichar Kachh Naahi

Bani Prabh Ki Sabh Ko Bole, Aap Adol Na Kabho Dholee

I THIINK YOU FORGOT OUR GRANDFATHER GURU TEG BAHADUR JI, Father of GURU Gobind Singh ji who had given guruship to Guru Gobind singh ji.(Vaho Vaho Gobind singh Ape Guru Chela) Please read Suraj Parkash Granth before raising such typo questions here.

You are 100% correct Mirror Veerji.

Sant nand singh ji Maharaj had told, Stick to your religions(whether you are Hindu,Muslim,Sikh,christian) and follow the code of conduct given by your religious's Holy Granth or Holy Book. and never do Ninda of other religion because in the eyes of akal all religions he had created are equivalent.

Our Satguru is Maryada Parshotsam, and made it very clear SAACh Kahon Sunn leyo Sabe Jin Prem Kyo Tin he Prabh Paeyo. Guru Gobind singh ji Maharaj is not telling just to sikhs but to "Sabhe" all humanity.

What evidence are you looking for....Those bhagats were muslims by their religion yet their gurbani is written in SGGSJI. Also please refer to ebooks of Sant Waryam singh ji ratwara sahib wale to get more insight of Bhagat Fareed ji life in very detailed description with Gurbani Quotes and How Did he meet Puran Muslism Sant to merge with Akal PUrakh.

@ Mirror veerji, You are absolutely right. I didnot mean thAT YOU are wrong. just wanted to highlight few points. Since i'm living in UAE(a Muslim country), I know few Muslim friends(Bori sect) who do worship Pir of age around 60-70(Please donot compare Pir with Some Black magic or Voombo jhoombho), They have told me that they dodnot worship him beacuse he had shown some divine powers or something but whenever they go to his sangat, they feel strong presence of Naam Simran and they feel very peacful and joyful presence. Even though worshipping any Human in Islam is strongly prohibited, yet they worship him and they even had put his pictures in their offices.

Veerji who said you will find puran sants only in Sikh dharam. AVAL ALLAH NOOR UPAYA KUDRAT KE SAB BANDE. Allah/Waheguru/Ram/Rahim/Akal Purakh didnot differentiate that HE IS SIKH....HE IS MUSLIM........HE IS CHRISTIAN......HE IS JEW. Uthe amalan de hon gye Nibere, kise ne nahi teri Jaat pushni. Even Krishan Maharaj ji had to obtain teachings from his guru, Even Jesus christ had to bow to his Guru, Even after spending 36 years by doing tapp, Bhagt a Farid ji had to go to look for Puran sant/Guru, that is why GURu gobind singh ji said VAHO VAHO GOBIND SINGH APE GUR CHELA. If we are telling its difficult to find Puran sant/guru in other relegions, then pardon me what i am going to say. HOW MUCH WE ARE GIVING RESPECT TO PURAN SANTS and Mahapursh who are in sikh dharam. With out Puran Satguru/Sant/Mahapursh, Earth cannot even survive for one microsecond. that is why even if you roam entire earth right now, you woul find a Puran Sant Mahapursh(one or may be more than one).But Tu Beant ko virla Jaane,Gurprashad ko Shabad Pehchane.

Also Remember That Bhagat like Kabir ji , Farid ji didnot get VAHEGURU mnatar from their Gurus, They did naam simran of gurumantar given by their guru(Ramanand ji incase of Bhagat Kabir ji and Bhaktiyar Kaki in case of Bhagat Fareed ji).

REHAT PEYARI MUJKO SIKH PYARA NAHI. Sufi Sant like Bhulle shah, Sarmast, inayat hussain, Rumi and many more achived that avasthaa which is described in SGGSJI. Outer Amrit is given by Panj Payre is just given to awaken the Immortal Amrit Inside you. Some people think just by having Amirt from Panj payre, You are done . But that is the first step to get admission in to Satguru's School. People like me didnot even pass Kindergarten of Satguru's Class and talk about higher avasthas.

If above point are not being observed by us.....then those hindu wives or Fasting wives(of sikh families) are far better than us.