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Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh! : i just found out that this topic has be discussed before. Waheguroo.. i just read and i was just shocked.... Sorry guys... Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh! :wub:

Gawaher.com · Forum Rules Help Search Members Calendar Statistics Site Map Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register ) Resend Validation Email Islamic Forum -> Discussions -> Why Did They Revert (Convert) To Islam Pages: (7) [1] 2 3 ... Last » ( Go to first unread post ) Sikh Reverts In Islam? Track this topic | Email this topic | Print this topic Zahra Amatullah Posted: Apr 19 2004, 20:39 Member Group: Members Posts: 66 Member No.: 4,931 Joined: 10-April 04 Gender: Female assalam alaikoum, i just want to know, is anyone here or does anyone know of any sikhs, men and women, in real life who have reverted to Islam? i've already tried looking on the internet for some information, but there is nothing apart from stories about a 60 year old Sikh man in India, a sikh girl in Brunei for instance. there were some posts in other website forums, i tried to contact them but no response really. thanks. wa salam. (i want to know about genuine cases) *Proud*Muslimah Posted: Apr 19 2004, 21:03 Member Group: Members Posts: 101 Member No.: 4,377 Joined: 16-March 04 Gender: Female As Salaam Alykum, I am good friends with a sister who was sikh previously. Alhamdulilah she is such a strong Muslimah now!! Can you PM? Give me your email (or I can give you hers) and you guys can keep in touch. It really amazes me when I see reverts on a whole but it's much more impactful to me personally when I meet someone of the same b/g as I on ce had that also converted, so I know what you mean! faizmalik Posted: Apr 20 2004, 04:44 Elite Member Group: Members Posts: 1,557 Member No.: 3,814 Joined: 13-February 04 Gender: Male salaam alaikum we guys? :umm: u mean u girl!? wslm.. 21st July, 2002 First Sikh to convert to Islam The number of people of other faiths, who have converted to Islam continues to increase. Yesterday four people, including a Sikh girl, embraced Islam together at a ceremony at the Islamic Dakwah Centre in Kampong Pulaie, RTB reported yesterday. The Sikh girl, Amrita Kaur Sandhu's new Muslim name is Isya Aqillah binti Abdullah. Dayang Isya Aqillah, 17, is a student at Menteri Secondary School. She decided to embrace Islam because she believes that Islam is a truly holy religion. Records show she is the first Sikh to embrace the faith in the country, RTB reported. The conversion ceremony was witnessed by the Assistant Director the Islamic Dakwah Centre, Dayang Hjh Zasia Sirin. The three other new Muslim converts are an Iban, a Bisaya and a Chinese. Liew Che Liong is now known as Awang Muhammad Zulhilmi bin Abdullah. Saidi Anak Kayok has taken the Muslim name Awang Muhammad Saiful Saidinee bin Abdullah. Dayang Merdiana Anak Liang is now known as Dayang Nurdiana binti Abdullah Liang. amina Posted: Apr 20 2004, 06:06 Elite Member Group: Members Posts: 1,553 Member No.: 2,844 Joined: 2-December 03 Gender: Female Mohammed - Pakistan Topic Faith & Practice Title How to Convinc e a Sikh about Islam? Question As-salamu `alaykum Dear brother or sister, I'm reading about Sikhism because I'm intending to help some Sikhs to convert to Islam. It's not an easy task, so would you please help me answering the following questions? Was Guru Nanak a Muslim? Is it true that the Sikh's holy book, the Adit, contains some ideas of Muslim and Hindu holy men or scholars? Could you give me some information to be used with a Sikh by which I can convince him of the Qur'an and raise doubts about his own book? Jazakum Allah khayrun Date 2003/11/3 Name of Consultant Shahul Hameed Content of Reply Salam, Mohammed. Thank you very much for your question. Sikhism as we know it today is the result of the teachings of the ten Gurus, the first of which was Guru Nanak (1469-1539) and the tenth and last of which was Guru Gobind Singh (1666-1708). Guru Nanak spread a simple message: "We are all one, created by the One Creator of all Creation." There is no definitive biography of Guru Nanak, though there have been many attempts to write the story of his life by his devotees after his death. According to Dr. Hari Ram Gupta, author of A Life-Sketch of Guru Nanak, Nanak started his mission at a time when both Hinduism and Islam as practiced in the Indian Subcontinent had become distorted and degraded. The caste system was at its worst, and all kinds of corruption had become rampant in society. Men of vision were worried, and they attacked the rot that had set in the society. Rather than address the socio-political problems, the reformers of the day tried to initiate a spiritual movement that would turn people towards God. They believed that this was the way to cure the ills of the society. Guru Nanak was indeed the most important of these reformers. He was born to a simple Hindu family. From an early age, he made friends with both Hindus and Muslims and acquired a good knowledge of Hind uism and Islam. He used to spend long hours in discussions with Muslim and Hindu holy men of the area. There is a story of how he disappeared for three days and came back with enlightenment. It is reported that he was no longer the same person he had been. Then he uttered these words: "There is but One God, His name is Truth, He is the Creator, He fears none, He is without hate, He never dies, He is beyond the cycle of births and death, He is self illuminated, He is realized by the kindness of the True Guru. He was True in the beginning, He was True when the ages commenced and has ever been True, He is also True now." (Japji) These words are enshrined at the beginning of the Sikh holy scripture, the Guru Granth Sahib. It was 1499 and Guru Nanak was thirty years old at this time. After this, with a Muslim companion, Guru Nanak undertook long journeys as part of a spiritual mission. He took twelve years to return from this first journey. He then set out on a second journey traveling as far south as Sri Lanka. On his third journey Guru Nanak traveled to the north to Tibet. Guru Nanak visited Sheikh Ibrahim, the Muslim successor of Baba Farid, the great Sufi dervish of the twelfth century at Ajodhan. When asked by Ibrahim which of the two religions was the true way to attain God, Guru Nanak replied, "If there is one God, then there is only His way to attain Him, not another. One must follow that way and reject the other. Worship not him who is born only to die, but Him Who is eternal and is contained in the whole universe." On his fourth great journey Guru Nanak dressed in the blue garb of a Muslim pilgrim and traveled to Makkah. He visited Madinah and Baghdad, too. After having spent a lifetime in traveling abroad and setting up missions, an aged Nanak returned home to Punjab. He settled down at Kartharpur with his family. People came from far and near to hear his hymns and preaching. After Guru Nanak’s death in September 1539, his Hindu followers thought him to be a Hindu and his Muslim followers thought him to be a Muslim. That is to say, both Muslims and Hindus viewed him from the perspective of their respective faiths. It was the later disciples of Nanak who gave shape to a new religion, of which Nanak is considered the first Guru. In 1604, Arjan Dev (one of the ten Gurus) compiled the hymns of Guru Nanak along with the compositions of both Hindu and Muslim holy men, like Jaidev, Surdas, Sheikh Farid, and Kabir. The compiled book was enshrined by Arjan in the Golden Temple and was called the Adi Granth. It was the tenth Guru, Gobind Singh, who organized the community of Sikhs into a khalsa — "a spiritual brotherhood devoted to purity of thought and action." He taught his followers to wear long hair (kesh, denoting saintly appearance), underwear (kachha, denoting self-control), iron bangle (kara, denoting purity in acts), comb (kangha, denoting cleanliness of mind and body), and sword (kirpan, denoting fight for a just cause). The Sikh scripture called the Adi Granth (called respectfully as Guru Granth Sahib) is considered the Supreme Spiritual Authority and Head of the Sikh religion, rather than any living person. It contains the works of not only the ten Gurus but also the hymns by sufis like Sheikh Farid (1175 - 1265) and Sheikh Bhikan (who died during the early part of Akbar’s reign). From the foregoing, we understand the following: Guru Nanak was a religious reformer at best; he was not the founder of any new religion. Sikhism is the creation of the Gurus, particularly of Guru Gobind Singh, whose compositions and innovations form the content and the framework of the new religion. The scripture of Sikhism is not any revelation from God but only the compositions of the Gurus as well as those of certain Muslim and Hindu mystics. For this reason, there is no meaning in talking about the authenticity of the book as a Divine Revelation. Because neither the book nor the authors claim it to have been reveale d by God. As Muslims, we can perform da`wah to the Sikhs, chiefly by appealing to their faith in the Oneness of God. We can tell them that Guru Nanak was most probably a Muslim when he died; the available evidence favors that conclusion. Anyway he did not try to replace Islam with a new religion; on the other hand, his utterances point to the fact that he certainly believed Islam to be the True Religion of God. Zahra Amatullah Posted: Apr 20 2004, 08:29 Member Group: Members Posts: 66 Member No.: 4,931 Joined: 10-April 04 Gender: Female assalam alaikoum, jazakallahu khair for the two articles, i have read them before. i was wondering whether you know of any sikhs in your area who may have converted, if that makes it any clearer. they could be from the UK, Canada, America and anywhere else in the world. wa salam. AbdulMajid Posted: Apr 20 2004, 09:38 *Do NOT PM me* Group: Members Posts: 747 Member No.: 1,417 Joined: 23-August 03 Gender: Male :Sl: I had a friend, at university//// she used to go clubbing with a sikh guy, but things changed, they both became religious in their second year of university. They were never romantically interested. The Sikh guy converted to Islam , and the Girl started wearing Hijaab.. n stuff she was already muslims.. Needless to say the ex sikh couldnt tell ppl about his revertion because of the big fuss it would cause.. and he would probably be terminated or banged up proper. I also know od ex SIkhs who become muslims and go on Jamaat .. Know this SIkh girl , dad was sikh, mum muslim, she embraced Islam... got married to some paki. SO ya there are enuff stories.. around. Me other mate , a medic, had a Hindu ( same thung as sikhism init ) firend, she converted to Islam after a year of research. They both married now... whilst still at uni. The guy wasnt a clubber, ladies man or stud or anything, infact he had a long beard.. but he was a good muslim boy. Got another mate who reverted a Hindu girl too, n married her, although they recently divorced, because he was too committed to Tableeghi Jamaat and going on 40 day vacations with the brothers etc..etc.. and she wotned to do other stuff. This is all by the Grace of Allah subhan'talah.! :lol: ) This post has been edited by AbdulMajid on Apr 20 2004, 09:46 Zahra Amatullah Posted: Apr 20 2004, 09:53 Member Group: Members Posts: 66 Member No.: 4,931 Joined: 10-April 04 Gender: Female assalam alaikoum, thank you for that info brother abdulmajid. there are very rare cases where Sikhs revert to Islam hence the reason why i cannot find out nay information about it. moreover, it is difficult for Sikhs to openly declare that they are Muslim because of the retaliation that they will face from the Sikh community. since i don't know of any Sikhs personally who have become Muslims it is difficult to make contact with such people. it's really difficult where i live too cos there is a large indian and muslim community, and word gets round really easy if you know what i mean :wub: . inchal lah Allah will guide me. wa salam p.s. please if anyone has further info let me know or PM me. DesertLion Posted: Apr 20 2004, 13:48 Newbie Group: New Members Posts: 25 Member No.: 4,828 Joined: 6-April 04 Gender: Male :aa: I have known 2 Sikhs and 1 Hindu.... who had become Muslim.. SparklLZz Posted: Apr 30 2004, 20:38 Golden Member Group: Members Posts: 342 Member No.: 5,081 Joined: 16-April 04 Gender: Female asalaam hu alaikum my cousin's wife was sikh and now alhamdulillah she is a muslim also my other cousin's wife was a hindu and now mashallah she is a better muslim than any of us in my fam! we learn from her!! mashallah This post has been edited by SparklLZz on Apr 30 2004, 20:39 Ashti Posted: May 1 2004, 20:23 Newbie Group: New Members Posts: 25 Member No.: 4,666 Joined: 31-March 04 Gender: Male :Sl: Well I know of a Sikh girl who became a Muslimah and married a Pakistani Muslim but later she got a divorce because he wasn’t religious enough but she’s still very devout, does hijaab/niqaab and all. Aishah Posted: May 2 2004, 03:08 Newbie Group: New Members Posts: 2 Member No.: 5,514 Joined: 2-May 04 Gender: Female salaam i just thought i would reply and inform you that i am revert born into the sikh faith, however it has been 12 years now, marshallah i have six sons my eldest is going to be 9 in july, and even after my divorce i would never turn away from Islam. I born and raised in englan Uk, and i came to canada almost 4 years ago. wasalaam Aishah Jihad4Jannah Posted: Ma y 2 2004, 14:14 I-L-O-V-E-I-S-L-A-M Group: IF Guardians Posts: 783 Member No.: 3,940 Joined: 21-February 04 Gender: Female :Sl: Welcome to IF, Aishah. Plz, read our forum rules if you haven't done so yet, :j: . dot Posted: May 2 2004, 20:16 e-SL@vE Group: Administration Posts: 2,163 Member No.: 1 Joined: 31-May 02 Gender: Male QUOTE (Aishah @ May 2 2004, 05:08) i just thought i would reply and inform you that i am revert born into the sikh faith :Sl: Welcome to IF sister Aishah. Its great that you have found the true path, 12 years ago, alhamdo l'Ellah. I invite you to write your reverting story in a separate topic. I'm sure everyone will be excited to know all about it. You may start a new topic here, or better still, in this forum: http://forums.gawaher.com/show.ppa/showforum/78 :b: jihadiforever Posted: May 6 2004, 02:49 Newbie Group: New Members Posts: 5 Member No.: 5,614 Joined: 6-May 04 Gender: Male salaam brothers..im happy to hear all of this in your country (UK i presume?) but the exact opposite is true here..muslim women have a reputation (even among whites) of sleeping around with sikh, hindu and to a less extent whites..and many (hundreds a year in vancouver alone according to stats canada) of converting to sikhism and hinduism..especially the persian and pakistanis...this includes 2 of my cousins..i asked them why and they felt that Is lam is way to strict and needs to adjust to survive in the west....BS..does anyone have any ideas of trying to bring them back in the fold??thanks. Aishah Posted: May 6 2004, 03:24 Newbie Group: New Members Posts: 2 Member No.: 5,514 Joined: 2-May 04 Gender: Female salaam, actually i was born and raised in england i only came to canada almost four years ago. But i know what you mean, i think this a recent trend, and it will phase out. i think at the moment they find the religion restictive but they will come back because when you hit with difficult time and even your own turn against you that on eccaepts that there is not other than Allah to turn to. Inshallah we have to keep doing dawah and start praticing and stop be hypocrites so that people can see and discover the true beauty of Islam. i use to judge Islam by those that claimied to be muslim and took Islam for granted, but i learned in the end, that i can not do that because when i study Islam i can see the wisdom, the beauty and justice and we must remember to turn to the quran and the sunnah as our example of how we must live our day to day lives even when we are praticing against the majority. there is a saying that there will come a time when there will be an ocean full of muslims but only a drop will consist of true believers. We must fear Allah and struggle because this will be the true test of our imaan, it is is to blind follow a culture or group. The responsibilty is upon us individually first to strugle and aquire knowledge. For me it is very easy to differciate between my past (life as a sikh) and my present and future as a muslim, because i know everything i understood and was riased to believe is the norm such as, my culture my traditions and so on are not from Islam, so i leave everything that was before and i can draw a clear line between what was before and what is noe and what i must leave behind, but for those that are born into muslim yet cultural familys from ceratain count ries such as pakistan have thier culture, traditions also aquired and mixed with the bordering countries such as india, thier knowledge is usually limited and tangled up with this culture and traditions most which can be regarded as seriouse forms of bida in Islam, however it is very difficult to clearly show and draw a line between the culture and Islam, for them it is the norm, that is part of thier understood perspective of Islam and its pratices. To try to duvide the two is almost difficult and very challenging for the youth of today. Culture is a very big part of asian life these days. If you were to walk down an asian/indian area of toronto or vancouver or even southall in england, you can not identify who is a muslim, a hindu, and a sikh, because between these three religions at times, it is a tread to have a beard (goti) fastionable asian clothing with a scarf bearly covering the head, and when they dress in western clothing there is no way to identify them any other way than by then universal term as east asians. anyway i hope my views helped a little, however this is just my perspective. wasalaam 0 User(s) are reading this topic (0 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users) 0 Members: « Next Oldest | Why Did They Revert (Convert) To Islam | Next Newest »

i'm with all the SAAG lovers... haha.. Few days back.. i ate FOUR roties with SAAG....LOL, for the FIRST time... hahaha....

Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh !!! I wonder if one of the Bhagats whose bani comes into Guru Granth Sahib were alive today, would today’s Sikhs bow down to such Saints who have achieved oneness with Waheguru. If there is no difference between the Bhramgani and the Lord, is it still wrong to sing the praise of that Bhagat? I know few familys who are extremely passionate about Baba Nand Singh , they have family history with Baba ji and it seems appropriate for them to have such respect. Of course I strongly disagree with placing pictures of Baba ji’s in the same room as Guru Granth Sahib and singing such lyrics in the presents of Guru Granth Sahib JI( which I have seen many times). :T:

Guru Fateh!! ALL of the Singhs and SINGHNiz look just AWESOME here... May Waheguru bless u all... ..i told Son of Guru Gobind Singh JI, that he looked good at the smagam, luved his outfit. Rochak veer ji... u look really nice in dastar! and of course, vicky too hehe.. Guru Rakha

oh come on ppl, that's my lil bro.... look at him...he looks just like me!

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Is garih meh ko-ee jaagat rahai. Those who remain awake in this house are very rare; saabat vasat oh apnee lahai. ||1|| rahaa-o. by doing so, they receive the whole thing. ||1||Pause||

MUAH!!!! congrats to both of u!!! heheh..of course i was the first one to wish u both... but i'm gonna say it again..... Congratulations!!! and stay in chardikala!!! rem. that i luv u both..... ur sis... Ruby!

Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh!!! I feel that if one is confident about his or her choice keepin the natual form, then the socity doesn't matter. If one is comfortable with ones body and the hair on it.. then, its the most natual and beautiful thing. My sisters shave, and when they see my legs they sometimes go "damn Ruby"... and i'll be like.. " oh i know i look damn GOOD :D "...and that's all it takes. If i learn to accept myself, then so will everyone around me.

OMG... Preeto.. ur such a dumb butt!!! Wat is there to repay.... I luv u like a sis..and NO ONE ever owes anything to sisters... just keep ur head up.. like a true Princess of Guru ji. And keep the luv for sikhi and Sikhs inside ur heart..and i will luv u forever.... muah!!! ( oh..and plz just cut me out of the pics. if u guys are going to post it on this site..... sorry...thanks.. muah!) OH and Son of Guru Gobind Singh ji.... ... u looked awesome that day... truly a son of Guru ji.... :D alrite.. Guru Ang sang! B) Princess Ruby!!!

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Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh! I am not aware if its mentioned in SGGS ji that Guru ji saves his sikhs from pullin their hair. But, i think it simply means that, one who commits him or herself to Sikhi and the teachings of Guru, Guru ji will save them no matter wat. By keepin the hair is showing that u are following the first hukam of being a Sikh. I am sure that who ever does ardass from their heart, will be rescued by Guru ji. But, it is most likely that one is willing to save his or her love one before someone else. And i think Guru ji will def. put his Gursikhs first. guroo guroo gur kar man mor || Chant Guru, Guru, Guru, O my mind guroo binaa mai naahee hor || I have no other than the Guru. gur kee ttaek rehahu dhin raath || I lean upon the Support of the Guru, day and night. jaa kee koe n maettai dhaath ||1|| No one can decrease His bounty. ||1|| (SGGS 864) plz forgive me for watever i might have said wrong.... Guru Rakha!!!! Gur oopar sadhaa kurabaan ( I am forever a sacrifice to the Guru) B) Princess!!!

Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh!!! This is awesome site.... i wonder why i was never told abou this site before... hmmm. oh yeh, the Smagam was off the hook... it was my first one...:-D!!!! can u guys guess who i am? Waheguru ang sang! ( guessing game only for ppl who know me...LOL)