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Hence you cut your nails?? and yeh, scrub em! only takes a minute.

Kara is Kakkar, you shuold never remove it!! A ring isnt even Sikhi. It was given from valentine to his wife as a tocken of his love and from there, so many people took it on to do the same. its now tradition. The ring shows love to a person, Kara shows love for Guru Ji. Go back and refise to take parshad. Many a time i have done this whereby when the sevadar is seated, then gets up to serve again. When getting up he is touching the floor therefore his hands are not sucha anymore. The sink is rite next to them, say 2 or 3 steps away. Again keep telling the commitee, chances are they wont listen!!! but keep at them!!! Also do Ardaas that this stops and maharaj forgives you for refusing parshad when the person knows themselves they should have clean hands.

Appealing to Sikhs from Coventry: Any more specifics - date, time, confirmation of address of Gurdwara etc. 109346[/snapback] Evening time, not sure what time. date was either Saturday or Sunday night, my dad was tellin me about it, but he didnt hear exactly what was being said by the committee as they were so stupid, they didnt call the police or nothing until after the event happened. Gurdwara is on Foleshill Rd, Longford, Coventry. Let me know if you want more, see if i can get you anything. Im not liked by the commitee anymore as i dont follow starchy or pointy maryada with a trimmed beard, but non tied dhari, dhumala and only point coming out of my dastar is shastar. No offence to anyone with the above description!! im just following Maryada of Gursikhs.

Go in your bana, full shastar, do you think they gona stop you when they see the sight of you??? you dnt need to use anything, just stand infront of them and dont back down! If they intimidate you, then they win. If you intimidate them and show NO fear, Nir Bhao!! then you will be succesful! Kale are feared, lets make it known SIKHS dnt fear!

The change was met made through discussions with the family and they were shown as to why it is disrespect to hold the wedding in such places. Even still, Guru Ji did Kirpa in making them understand so we should celebrate this!! Hopefully the papers might write a GOOD article praising this (doubt they will!!) and so more people will do the same or just not book a wedding so that they dont have to go through hassel of finding alternative locations!!! Which would make everyones life more simpler!! Respect Guru Ji, or DONT have his Anand Karaj

From what i have found out, there is no Gurdwara in the city of where the wedding is being carried out therefore the lcoation of their weekly diwan was agreed to on the terms the campaign agreed to the location and circumstances. UNLESS YOU KNOW THE EXACT DETAILS, ITS NOT RIGHT TO MAKE JUDGEMENTS, the campaign are not in place to ruin peoples lives, its in place to ensure the beadbi of Guru Ji is not carried out!! Therefore the location agreed to has been done so with the approval of 5 Singhs. It was allowed due to the lack of Gurudwara in the city therefore it has been stressed to the sangat to ensure they sort this out therefore there will be no re occurance of this again. It will be appreciative paji if you dont try to cause further conflict as the comments you made above will make the campaign look weak but on the contrary, they are still strong and upholding Respect for Guru Ji. WJKK WJKF

Gurfateh Just to let eveyone know!! THERE IS NO NEED TO COME TO THE WEDDING AS IT HAS BEEN RESCHDULED TO A PLACE WHICH R4G HAVE AGREED TO!!!!!! PLEASE DO NOT TURN UP AS BOTH POLICE AND R4G HAVE MADE ALTERNATIVE ARRANGMENTS. ANYONE WISHING TO GO AGAINST THESE INSTRUCTIONS WILL BE GIVING SIKHI A BAD NAME AS THIS MARRIAGE HAS BEEN DEALT WITH. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

:doh: we all must have done something bad in our previous joons, if we didnt we would be in sachkhand already 109078[/snapback] And she must have done something good to come in human form. No matter what, as Sikhs its our duty to help. We are no1, we are Gurus Servants, its our duty to help her! Only Guru knows what she has done and he deals with it, we are here to help her after.

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If your gona bring Maharj into your house then dont cook meat or drink alcohol after simple as. Im against it. What good is it pretending infront of Maharaj when he sees and knows everything!?!? Its the same as hair cut guys not cutting their beards for couple weeks before the wedding so they look "nice" and putting red dastar on too so you are fooling Guru Ji into believing you are this nice saintly looking person but really your doing it as its now tradition to do so. Obey the Hukham of Guru! Not half of it. All of it. Easier said then done BUT simple things like dont cook meat and consue alcohol, if you cant give these up then dont bring Maharaj into your home!!! If you choose to stop then CLEAN the house properly from top to bottom cleaning everywhere! Only then is it right to bring maharaj in and ask for forgivnes to for not obeying his hukham Apologies if that offends anyone, its just anoying so many people want to do "Sikh" things but dont want to obey anything. An example is my friend. Her brother sadly passed away, but when i was at the house, i heard the dad say to one of the relatives, "i wanted to have an Akhand Paath at home for his bday in a few weeks then hav a nice BBQ after and little party as the weather has been so good". Immediatly after he said that, the clouds darkened and it started to rain. This is no joke, maharaj is against this behaviour, the thought was obviously cancled but even still, when uncle mentioned it, Maharaj changed the weather. WJKK WJKF

Did anyone record the show?? a few of the guys from my city wanted to listen in butwere in bham for the Chaupi Sahib Jap

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The writers were a joke. Uncle specifically asked DO NOT CALL MAHARAJ A BOOK as its makes his angry so they use those words in the picture!!!!!!!! Its looks much better in color!! Will try and scan in and put on the net for you! Still good work what they Singhs and Singhnis did, just wish for once the papers would tell the truth!!!!

Like i said If its not put as sticky, i WILL bump up reguarly!

Radio Show on Akaash Radio - 8pm-10pm. Its an On Air Debate!! Worth tuning for!!!

Ever heard the phrase a picture paints a 1000 words or what ever it is?? Think about it, a picture is inspirational, if it wasnt then WHY do we have them? Why have pictures of Shaheeds, why wear Sant Ji tops, Babbar Khalsa? They pictures people! We wear them all the time, i too wear them but then at the same time i also keep pictures of Singhs back in the day, Gurus Pictures. I dnt matha tekh them, i only matha tekh Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj BUT these pictures taught me our history. Pictures are good for kids, if people are to stupid to realise the differnce in a pic and Living Guru is that the fault of the artist? not really. thats the fault of the person who told the foolish individual thats your Guru, Matha Tekh etc. As for how to dispose, Burn. Why? Thats Gurus Image. Dont matter if its Not Bani or Guru Ji, but still show just a fraction of respect to the fact its an Image of Guru Ji. You are looking at the roop, that Roop is still Guru Ji. You see Khalsa, thats Guru Jis Soldier, thats HIS SIKH. Sikhs dnt believe in idolistic worship, CORRECT, but how is having Sikhi Pictures of Gurus Pictures making it idolisitc Worship? Obviously ALL the Gurdwara people go to dont really have pictures huna, they jst our imagination showing them as pictures. People dnt start matha tekhing the pictures, they matha tekh Guru Sahib (and if you crzy enuf you will start matha tekhing a baba too). If a picture teaches someone history then whats wrong with it? Takes 2 min to burn a picture, not hard. For all you know, that picture might have Gurbani on it, like in calendards the Gurdwara hand out. What do you do then? Throw away to? Seriously people its a stupid topic,. I agree Guru Ji is everywhere, but we aint that stage, and we are a LONG way away from that stage but that dnt mean we cnt have a pic. But then that wud contradict the purpose of what you sayin yeh, coz if Guru Ji is everything then the picture is him too. No point in making mountains out of mole hills, for the sake of doing something for 2min. Im not ritualistic and this pracitse is not ritualistic, its called making sure you dont do beadbi. Correctly so, the images we see are not what Guru Ji looked like, its someones imagination, but if that imagination has helped SO many people, then in my opinion, nothing wrong with it. WJKK WJKF

Organisers have said more information is to appear on the site http://charitykeertan.co.uk ADMIN< PLEASE CAN YOU PUT THIS AS A STICKY AS MONEY IS BEING RAISED FOR PHENJIS OPERATION!!> Lets show her and the family that sikhs still care for our own and we will always help them!!!! If not then i WILL bump everytime it drops so to save wasted posts!!!! Lets make it possible so all can see!! Thanks WJKK WJKF

Shastar is weapon in simple terms. Well said phenji, its tru, the shastar isnt what kills, its the person behind it! Like a car, the car is dangerous, its the person driving behind the wheel. If they are iresponsable then they will kill themselves or someone else. The same applies to Kirpan, if you cnt use it then theres no point in having a big massive one to look good or to "protect people" as you only gona get it taken off you in a fight and then prob get sliced up with it!! And its like a Cardinal Sin to get done over with ya own weapon!!! Quite rightly so too!!!! Behzti man! Get beats with ya own shastar!!!!

Try the metal plate under your dhumala instead? Like singhs would of a few 100yrs ago, like its a metal scull covering type thing with a lifted point for you joora!! lol, seen it at the Sikh Museum they had in london a few yrs back!!! One od the best things i seen!!!! The obviously, tye a nice tight dhumala so its not goin newhere!!!! I dnt personally think that idea will go down well with the army of the police, they will prob still be uptight and say no!!! Also i aint got a clue where you would go for this to start up, maybe a uni? Ie research project for some students?? I like the idea, in a way... but i dnt think i would wear it? not sure, wud wona see it... Ask 5 singhs too, like if yuo can as it becomes like a hat over your dastar, some people mite have a problem with that...

When the nail has been knocked on the head with the Wedding thing, or more sangat activley take part in stading up to Beadbi like those Singhs and SINGHNIS (Yes, Singhnis included!!) then the problem will be put to rest!!! IF each person who hears about this stuff stood up and said something in return to it all happening then it wake make life easier. For the above situation, Take 5 Thiyar BiThiyaar singhs to the house, inform they MUST stop cooking meat/drink in the house and clean PROPERLy up to standard of the singhs and only then will you allow maharaj to stay in the house. IF they refuse, then take Maharaj. No1 will stop you, and if they do, then use MINIMUM force to defend Guru Ji!! Thats why we are here, lets take a step on the path the campaigners are walking on and protect Sikhi from the people who are actually harming!! Not muslims, etc, but Supposed sikhs!!!!! If that fails, then mail the campaign, and they will send singhs to take maharaj. This has been taken into account that this also happens and in due course this issue will be tackled also, Disrespect in the home as many Gurdwaray have said this too. Please Sangat Ji, Stand up to this disrespect to Guru Ji and walk the Path the Sikhs walked to fight Beadbi to Guru Ji. WJKK WJKF

Buy one then, they arnt that expensive!! You only ever get free shastar if maharaj wants you, like you have done something to deserve it. Asking for a free noe dont mean you gona get one, you have to work for it. I want a katar, i love them but im so skint i cnt get the one i like but instead of askin people for it, i am working to get one!!! If amaharaj wants me to have it, he will keep it for me, if not then "Tera Kiya Mitta Lagay" (Hope spelt rite ) The only time a Gurdwara will come something free is when you take amrit and even then they prob only give you like not very good stuf!! or if some reacly Chardi Kala Sikh comes to their Gurdwara and then they will get them something special. WJKK WJKF

Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj (not all, but trying my best!) 107710[/snapback] WJKKWJKP!! All-Info Paji...i know your intentions are good and i appreciate them, however, i've always thought of it to be disrespectful to consider Guroo Maahaaraaj as a book.... Sorry if i offended, just wanted to make a point...sorry ji... As for my inspirational book....hmmm....Gallant Defender, Struggle for Justice. WJKKWJKP! 107712[/snapback] Non taken as im not referring to maharaj as a book but their writings as inspirational.

Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj (not all, but trying my best!)

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Hmmm!!! well if you cant control your shastar, how comes u own so many? If a singh cnt control his shastar, its pointless him wearing it.