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  1. y r u in favor of the original poster can u explain
  2. guru ji told us not to get revenge thays wy he sent banda singh bahadur to avenge those who have been killed right thats why sikhs in da 80's got revenge against all those evil leaders right u r a <removed> bcz thats the only word that can describe u . words are meant to describe so let them describe . would call a paapi a punni bcz paapi is bad ?
  3. in badals raji dont think we can talk bout stuff like khalistan or its boom lights out. ur dead . dasmesh pita returning when did he ever leave his atamic jot is with us . we need som1 like sant jarnail singh ji to rturn a tru gursikh we already have guru ji .
  4. i heard that the britsh made the nam dhari sect to destroy sikhs after seeinghow strong they were . thats wy there is a hundred year gap in nam dharis .
  5. kesh r equally important the above post is re tar ted u need to be a sikh inside n out not be manmukh from out . kesh iswahegurus gift and his hukam to keep it so by following everything else u stilldo not follw wahegurus hukam by keeping kesh . sri guru gobind singh ji said i love your kesh morethan my own sons and this is how you treat gurus loe by going to haircut places . there are many more things said and written by guru ji regarding kesh AND IF U CUT KESH UR NOT A FULLSIKH OUTWARDLY .
  6. r u ok shaheed bhai jinda and sukha were highly intelligent and spiritual . i think both of them knew about 20 languages and jinda could speak arabic so fluently that ppl that he was an outsider not from india u think a couple or normal pindus can pull of a 5 crore bank robbery without any1 gettn hurt and when shaheed bhai jinda and sukha were in jail the wardden used to say that when bhai jinda and sukha used to do waheguru simran he used to feel something like shanti or calmness or waheguru or something but jinda sukha were highly intelligent and spiritual singhs .
  7. i no who really has the most shaheeds for sikh kaum . THE SINGHS .
  8. r u ok go to neverforget84.com u will find ur answers and there where many jatts who did stuff in GURU JI'S time to help sikhs and give shaheeds . i think jatts have the most shaheeds .
  9. uttar pradesh is RSS base . UP is full of hindus . they dont like sikhs . UP , Delhi , Bihar send in hindus from hteir state to go corruptup punjab .
  10. this guy is a F K R . he is very bad M 0 F 0 . he killed som many militants .
  11. LOOK THROUGHTOUT HISTORY HOW HINDUS BETRAYED SIKHS . I H8 HINDUS THAT H8 SIKHS. IT IS I THINK MAJORLY THE BRAHMINS THAT DID THE BETRAYING THE ALWAYS HATED GURU NANAK RIGHT WHEN HE STARTED SIKHISM WITH SAYING IK ONKAAR .RIGHT AWAY THEN THEY STARTED H8N GURU JI . IN INDIA I THINK THERE A HINDUS THAT APPRICIATE WHAT SIKHS DID . LIKE MY DADS FRIEND SHARMA HIS WIFE'S SISTER SAYS HINDUS AND SIKHS R 1 BUT HES SAYS NO THEY ARE NOT N STOP TRYING TO MAKE SO THEY ARESIKHS N BCZ OF THEM WE R HERE TODAY SO ITS NOT FAIR TO SAY ALL HINDUS R BAD AND ITS NOT FAIR TO SAY ALL HINDUS R GOOD . FOR GET HINDUS EVEN SIKH SELL OUT THEIR OWN RELIGON . BEANT SINGH , BADAL , KPS GILL ...... EVEN THERE ARE MULSIM TO BUT I THINK HINDUS R THE WORST N NOW SOME PPL SAY HINDU N SIKHS R 1 LIKE BROTHERS . WE R NOT 1 WE R DIFFERENT .READ ARTICLE BELOW TO SEE THROUGHOUT HISTORY HOW HINDUS BETRAYED SIKHS . WE EVEN LOST KHALISTAN SO MANY TIMES BCZ OF THEM BACK IN SRI GURU GOBIND SINGH JI'S THE HINDUS HELPED THE MUSLIMS TO FIGHT AT ANANDPUR GURU JI TOLD SIKHS TO STAY AND I WILL GIVE U RAJ U ALREADY NO WHAT HAPPENED AT ANANDPUR HINDUS WERE INVOLVED . THEN SECOND KHALISTAN THE CRASH OF MAHARAJA RANJIT SINGHS KINGDOM . AFTER THAT THEY OTHER SIKH KINGS WERE ABOUT TO SEND THE BRITISH OUTTA INDIA BUT HINDUS SAID NO DONT LEAVE THE SIKHS R ALMOST FINISHED N THEY STAYED N TOOK OVER . HINDUS FAULT . THEN THIRD NOWADAY TIMES WHEN THE PARTATION HAPPENED BRITSH WERE GIVING KHALISTAN TO SIKHS BUT OUR LEADERS DIDNT TAKE IT SOLD THE WHOLE KAUM OUT FOR MONEY .SO MANY CHANCE LOST BCZ OF HINDUS . I DONT BLAME NORMAL INNOCENT HINDUS BUT THE BAD EVIL HEARTED HINDUS EVEN FAKE SIKHS AND MUSLIMSNOW LETS LOOK AT WHAT SIKHS N HINDUS RELATIONSHIP IS . HINDU SIKH BROTHERHOOD? WHAT SIKHS HAVE DONE FOR HINDUS AND HOW THEY HAVE BEEN REPAID. Hindu Sikh Brotherhood? Bijla Singh Sikhs and Hindus have been living together in India and Punjab ever since Sikhi was founded by Guru Nanak Dev Ji over 500 years ago. Many Sikhs these days under the brainwashing influence of Hindu propaga...nda have started to believe that “Sikhs and Hindus are brothers” just on the basis that both communities have been living together for over five centuries. Although, Hindus are our brothers just as are Christians, Jews, Muslims and other communities but this brotherhood is not based on religion but on humanism. In other words, Hindus are our brothers not because they are Hindus but because they are humans. But today’s relationship between Hindus and Sikhs is being looked upon as “nail and flesh”. In other words, this ‘brotherhood’ is considered inseparable. This is all due to the lack of knowledge about Sikh history, holocaust in 1984 which was the result of attack on Darbar Sahib, and awareness of their separate identity. Although after the attack the fabric of this ‘brotherhood’ has been ripped apart but some people prefer to live in the past. According to such people “Everything had been going great until Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale showed up and demand for Khalistan rose to the top on the notion that they were not being treated equally in India.” A closer look at history would make everything crystal clear that the attack of 1984 by the Hindu government was not out of the blue but a continuation of their hostility against the Sikhs. The bitter truth is that majority of the Hindus have always opposed not only the spread of the Sikh religion but the young Sikhs taking Amrit and following the principles of their true Guru. Mr. D. Patrie has explained this very well by saying: Hinduism has always been hostile to Sikhism whose Gurus powerfully and successfully attacked the principles of caste which is the foundation on which the whole fabric of Brahaminism has been reared. The activities of Hindus have, therefore, been constantly directed to the undermining of Sikhism both by preventing the children of Sikh fathers from taking Pahul and by reducing professed Sikhs from their allegiance to their faith. Hinduism has strangled Buddhism, once formidable rival to it and it has already made serious inroads in to domains of Sikhism. (D. Patrie, Asstt. Director, Criminal Intelligence, Govt. of India, 1911) Opposition during Mughal Empire Hindu Brahmins became hostile to Sikhi when Guru Nanak Dev Ji refused to wear ‘Janeau’ (a Hindu sacred thread) at the age of 9 and spoke against many of the blind rituals of Hinduism such as idol worship and caste system. According to Dr. Cynthia Mahmood: Not only did Guru Nanak reject what he saw as the empty ritualism of the Hindu tradition, but he also famously renounced its most characteristic social organization, the caste system. (Fighting for Faith and Nation, P. 27) Guru Nanak Dev Ji’s true message was an awakening to the people who had been physically and mentally enslaved by Brahmins and the teachings of Vedas, Upnishds, Puranas and Simratis. Although Mughals were the rulers of India but Hindu Brahmins were the real thugs who in the name of religion and God looted the public. Guru Sahib’s message to people started a wave of freedom from mental slavery of the Brahmins and physical slavery of the Mughals. This, of course, was intolerable to the Brahmins as well as the Mughal rulers which resulted in the arrest of Guru Sahib. Brahmins were determined to uproot the new freedom movement started by Guru Nanak Dev Ji. They went as far as to kill Guru Sahib on His wedding day by demolishing a wall onto him. The message of Guru Nanak Dev Ji was further preached by His successors. Guru Angad Dev Ji opened a wrestling school to make people physically stronger and Guru Amardas Ji strongly mandated Sikhs to sit together and eat in the community kitchen before joining the congregation. This was a direct attack on the foundations of Brahminical principles that held the fort of the caste system. Seeing that the Sikhs were not only becoming physically stronger but renouncing every principle and belief system of the Hindu religion, the Brahmins chose the way of lying to the government officials and convincing them to attack the Sikhs and crush the freedom movement before it could become any stronger. Brahmins went to Emperor Akbar in Lahore and complained that Guru Sahib was turning the public against the Mughal government and preaching hatred about Islam. Akbar quickly requested Guru Sahib to come to Lahore and clarify everything. Guru Sahib sent Bhai Jetha Ji who explained the Sikhi principles in a manner that Akbar was not only impressed but wished to meet Guru Sahib. Akbar was so much impressed by Guru Sahib’s teachings that he humbly sat down in the community kitchen with others to eat. Even after so many failed attempts to harm Sikhi, Brahmins failed to realize that there was nothing they could do to stop the freedom movement from flourishing. When the fifth Guru, Guru Arjan Dev Ji, became the successor of Guru Nanak Dev Ji’s mission, Hindus not only instigated Prithi Chand against Guru Sahib but also convinced Sulhi Khan and Sulbhi Khan to attack the Sikhs. Hindus like Bhagwan Das and Chandu, whose daughter’s hand was refused by Guru Sahib for His son, accused Guru Sahib of preaching against Hinduism and Islam and turned Emperor Jahangir against Guru Sahib. Guru Arjan Dev Ji was arrested and handed to Chandu for punishment. He poured hot sand over Guru Ji’s head, boiled Him alive and used various tortures for five days after which Guru Ji departed from this world and became the first Shaheed (martyr) of the Sikh nation. Hindus tried to suppress Guru Hargobind Ji but they could not withstand the fierce power of His sword and always lost in the battlefield. Hindus kept on filing complaints against the Sikhs regularly until their religion (Hinduism) was about to be eradicated by the Muslims during the reign of Aurangzeb. The emperor Aurangzeb ordered all of his chiefs to bring all Hindus in the fold of Islam. Thousands of Hindus were being given the choice of either death or Islam. Majority of the Hindus chose the latter. The remaining had no choice but to come to Sikhs for help. The ninth Guru, Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji spoke against this oppression and advocated free choice to practice any religion. Aurangzeb failed to force Guru Ji to adopt Islam which led to martyrdom of Guru Ji along with other three Sikhs who were boiled, burnt and sawn alive. This was the sacrifice of the ninth Guru, Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji. Guru Ji helped them by sacrificing his life for the sake of freedom and the right to worship. Guru Ji gave his life to and saved the Hindu religion but Hindus today completely oppose this by saying that Guru Ji was martyred because of His personal problems with the government. Sikhs saved their religion from extinction but Hindus are paying their dues back by twisting our history. The tenth Guru, Guru Gobind Singh Ji established Khalsa Panth and gave the title name of ‘Singh’ to every male and ‘Kaur’ to every female. Furthermore, all Sikhs were given the same set of principles to follow, same way of lifestyle to live and same attire to wear. Thus the mission started by Guru Nanak Dev Ji was completed. This was the final blow to the Hindu beliefs. Hindus had no choice but to attack Anandpur Sahib. The same Hindu kings whose forefathers were freed by the sixth Guru Ji from the prison of Emperor Jahangir, declared their war against Guru Sahib which is known as the battle of Bhanghani. Even though Sikhs were greatly outnumbered they fought so fearlessly that the Hindu armies retreated soon after the battle had begun. Afterwards Guru Ji fought numerous battles (in defense) with Hindu kings and Mughals who had been mislead by the Hindus into thinking that Guru Sahib was preaching anti-Islamic message. In the last battle, the Hindu and Mughal armies surrounded the fort of Anandpur Sahib. They swore on Quran and in the name of a cow (Hindu’s holy animal) that if Sikhs were to leave the fort they will not be attacked by the army. Guru Sahib refused to believe them but when Sikhs requested Guru Ji to leave the fort, Guru Ji agreed. As soon as the Sikh army that had been starving for more than nine months came out, they were attacked by the Hindu and Mughal armies. Hundreds of Sikhs became martyr and Guru Ji’s entire family was separated. During this fierce battle, a Hindu named Gangu, who had been a servant at the house of Guru Ji for over 20 years, found Mata Gujjar Kaur Ji, mother of Guru Sahib, along with two youngest sons of Guru Ji and requested to take them to his house nearby. Upon reaching the house he stole their money and had them arrested. After the arrest the young children, age of seven and nine years, were called in the court. The governor asked his ministers about what the fate of the two young children should be. A Muslim priest reminded the minister that Islam prohibits execution of innocent children but it was a Hindu, Sucha Nand, who openly requested the governor to kill them. The two young sons were bricked alive. A Hindu was responsible for their arrest and a Hindu was responsible for their death. After a while, Guru Gobind Singh Ji baptized a recluse in the south, named him Banda Singh and sent him to Punjab to punish the criminals and fight injustice. Baba Banda Singh Ji quickly took command of the Sikh army and established Sikh rule in Punjab. He started a separate Sikh calendar and minted coins in the names of Guru Sahib. Hindu Brahmins soon realized that with the end of the Mughal Empire their belief system would be doomed as well. They sent a Hindu, nephew of Sucha Nand, to Baba Banda Singh who requested to be enlisted in the Sikh army. Baba Banda Singh enlisted him but did not trust him at all. He appointed Bhai Baaj Singh to keep an eye on him. When the battle of Sarhind began, the same Hindu showed his true face and attacked the Sikhs. Bhai Baaj Singh quickly retaliated and killed him before he could do any damage. After numerous battles, Baba Banda Singh was arrested from Gurdas Nangal and sent to jail with his family where he was tortured everyday. A Hindu counselor Ratan Chand would visit Baba Banda Singh and his family on daily basis and try to convince them to adopt Islam or face death. It was not ironic that where Sikhs were being killed in large numbers everyday for keeping their faith, Hindus were being awarded and given high ranking jobs in the government. Then the time came when Sikhs were being hunted down from house to house and prices were put on their heads. Anyone who told the whereabouts of any Sikh was awarded. Most of the spies were Hindus who served as informants to the government and collect the award. Just a mere thought of helping a Sikh was considered a punishment. Hindus had Sikh women and children arrested who were later killed by the Muslims and cut into pieces limb by limb. Lakhpat Rai, a Hindu, took thousands of Muslim troops under his command and attacked Sikhs unexpectedly which is remembered as the First Sikh Holocaust. More than 10,000 Sikhs became martyr in this holocaust. Another holocaust remembered as the Great Holocaust occurred when Ahmad Shah Abdali attacked Sikhs unexpectedly in which Hindu kings once again helped the Afghans. About fifty thousand (number varies) Sikhs in this holocaust were killed and most of them were women and children. This holocaust resulted in elimination of more than half of the Sikh population. This was the betrayal of Hindus who had our women and children killed at the hands of foreign rulers. Their opposition and betrayal clearly proved that they were no brothers to the Sikhs during Mughal Empire. Opposition during British Empire After decades of struggle, Sikhs established their rule in Punjab under the leadership of Maharaja Ranjit Singh. Hindus adopted the Sikh faith just for a show and to gain higher positions in the Sikh army. Some unforgettable names are Pandit Dina Naath, Dheyan Chand (Sinh), Ghulab Rai (Sinh), Heera Chand (Sinh), Laal Chand (Sinh) and Tej Mall (Teja Sinh). Sardar Hari Singh Nalua, the most feared Sikh by Afghans, was shot dead by Hindu Dogras. After the death of Maharaja Ranjit Singh for which Hindu Dogras were responsible all the royal family members one by one were murdered. Hindu Dogras sided with the British and helped annex Punjab. They cut off the food and weapon supplies during the wars of Mudki and Firozshah and turned the British defeat into victory. Dogras again betrayed in the last battle of Sabhravan which lead to the death of a great warrior Sardar Sham Singh Attariwala. The British took over Punjab, turning the Kings of Punjab, Sikhs, into slaves and all the credits go to Hindus. For being loyal to the British they were awarded Kashmir. After annexation of the Sikh kingdom, Sikh religion was being attacked from all four sides. On one side Arya Samaj of Hindus was attacking Sikh religion claiming it to be a sect of Hinduism and on the other side Hindu Brahmins were given the control over Darbar Sahib and other Gurdwaras who placed statues of Hindu gods inside the complex. According to A.R. Darshi: When the British conquered and annexed Punjab in 1849 they were aware of the power and glory of the Sikhs. They also knew that Sikh power emerges from the Gurdwaras. Therefore they conceived a sinister plan to scuttle Sikhism by taking control of these institutions of religious power through their agents. In pursuit of their aim they installed Hindu Mahants as managers of important Gurdwaras. For instance, Mahant Narain Das and Mahant Sadhu Ram both anti-Sikh elements, were respectively made in charge of Gurdwara Nankana Sahib and Harimandir Sahib. The fanatic and corrupt Hindu Mahants installed idols in the Gurdwaras and introduced Hindu rites and rituals which were denounced and renounced by the Sikh Gurus. In this way the Mahants brought Sikh religion under the evil influence of Hinduism and muddled it greatly. (Gallant Defender, Page 25) Sikh Gurdwaras were turned into Hindu temples and some Hindus carried out lecherous activities. When Sikhs heard of such immoral activities being carried out in their holy places they brought up this matter in the British Parliament and demanded the Gurdwaras to be handed over to the Sikhs but Hindus like Narayan Datt opposed it with everything they had. Seeing that they had no choice, they started a peaceful movement to gain the control over Gurdwaras and to restore the principles of Sikhi, in which Hindus took no part. Such was their brotherly love. Sikhs started the first war of independence during British Empire. Bhai Maharaj Singh Ji, and Baba Raam Singh Ji were some of many Sikhs who started the freedom movement to drive the British out of India. Babbar Akalis, Gadar movement and even Indian Liberation Army were movements started by the Sikhs. It is unfortunate that none of the Sikhs were ever honored by the Indian government after independence. True fighters like Bhai Randhir Singh Ji spent almost 16 years in jails and survived only by eating fruits for months but name of this hero is not even mentioned in the history books let alone honoring him with the title of “True Patriot”. Three government officials who tortured Bhai Sahib the most were also Hindus. Udham Singh avenged the Jalianwala Bagh massacre in 1919 by killing General Michael Francis O'Dwyer in London. A ruthless murderer had been brought to justice but shockingly Gandhi opposed it and called Udham Singh “insane”. Sikhs fought the British so bravely that many of the leaders could not resist praising Sikhs of their bravery. Sikh Quam has come into existence to fight for freedom. I say it with confidence that because of them India will become a free country soon. (Dada Bhai Narojee, President of Congress) A country which has martial race like Sikhs cannot be ruled by foreign powers for long. (Bhai Seeta Raameya) I have found the way to independence. Gurdwaras are free at last. India will become free because of your struggle. (M. K. Gandhi) I salute to Sikhs who are fighting for independence and are sacrificing for freedom. (Moti Laal Nehru) Movement of freedom has risen from Guru Ka Bagh which will play a major role to free the country. (Madan Mohan Malveya) Freedom is everyone’s right. Sikhs are true sons of the country who are fighting for it. (Lala Laajpat Rai) Sikhs are the toughest of all communities. I believe that the British are devils and God resides in Sikhs. (Dr. Khan Chand Dev) Sikhs have shown us the way to freedom. Now no one can keep us as slaves for long. We shall be free soon. (Dr. Saifudeen Kichloo) Hindu leaders made promises to Sikhs according to which they would be entitled to a separate Sikh state where they could rule freely and enjoy the freedom. “…in future, the Congress shall accept no constitution which does not meet with the satisfaction of the Sikhs” (The Lahore session of the Congress Party. December 31, 1929) “…the brave Sikhs of Punjab are entitled to special considerations. I see nothing wrong in an area set up in the North of India wherein, the Sikhs can also experience the glow of freedom.” (Jawahar Lal Nehru, Lahore Bulletin, January 9, 1930) “I ask you to accept my word and the Resolution of the Congress that it will not betray a single individual much less a community. Let God be the witness of the bond that binds me and the Congress with you (the Sikhs). When pressed further Gandhi said that Sikhs would be justified in drawing their swords out of the scabbards as Guru Gobind Singh had asked them to, if Congress would renege on its commitment.” (Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi, Young India, March 19, 1931) Behind these promises the Hindu leaders had only one aim which was to win the trust of the Sikh nation which would grant them control over more land. Unfortunately, Sikhs failed to recognize the true faces of the Hindu leaders and refused to create their own separate State. This caused the Sikhs to face another era of opposition and fight a war with the cruelest government of all times. Opposition in Hindu India After the independence, all promises were thrown out of the window. Nehru ignored his promises by saying “time has changed”. The Hindu leaders promised the Sikh leaders that after attaining freedom the Sikhs would be assigned a specific area in the North West India where they could feel a glow of freedom and advocate their religion and culture. When the deceptive Hindus got freedom in 1947 and consolidated their power they conveniently forgot the promises made to the Sikhs. (The Gallant Defender, Page 22) Gandhi, Nehru, Patel and Seeta Raam started to speak ill of Guru Sahib and Sikh principles. Gandhi’s speeches against Sikhs were not anything new since he used to make similar speeches before the independence. In one of his speeches he called Guru Gobind Singh Ji “a misguided patriot” (Sachi Sakhi, Sardar Kapoor Singh, 74-76). According to him, Guru Ji’s teaching of fighting oppression with sword was wrong yet he favored Krishna’s acts of leading the Pandavs into the battle field against their own brothers. Does this leave any doubt that his thinking was totally foolish and biased? He had forgotten that it was Sikhs who raised their swords against the British which resulted in the independence of the entire subcontinent. Hindu leaders started to convince the Sikh community to abandon their religious practices and join the fold of Hinduism. Gandhi appealed to Sikhs to “give up Gurmukhi and adopt Devnagri” (Sikhs in History, Sangat Singh, Pg. 196) and asked them to leave Sikhi by saying “Cut your hair, give up an obsolete weapon (Kirpan) and merge yourself in the Hindu religion”. (Ibid, 250) It was not ironic that the Hindus chose the same person to be the “father of nation”. The hatred of Hindus towards the Sikhs started to show its true face. “I hate the very physique of a Sikh because of the turban and beard.” (Vallabh Bhai Patel, late Indian top politician) It is better for Sikhs to forget about their distinctiveness and merge themselves into Hindu laws. (Kaatjoo, Greh Mantree) The only way for minorities to survive is to be faithful to majority (Hindus) and they should always be at their best to win the majority trust. (A Hindu leader) We do not believe in kicking the minority groups out of the country. Instead, our desire is to change their religion and convert them all to Hinduism. (Mahaveer Tyagi cited in Sikhs in History, Sangat Singh, Pg. 249) I do not like the word “minority” (Aeengar) When Pakistan was created at the time of partition it became crystal clear that there remained only one community (Hindus) in India. (Vallabh Bhai Patel) Furthermore, the Hindu government passed strict laws against the Sikhs, which prevented them from getting higher positions in the government. Under Article 25 of the constitution (unapproved by the Sikh nation), Sikhs were considered part of Hindus. Sikhs were called “lawless people” and “menace to the society”. The first person to give Sikhs such title was Chandi Laal Tarwedi who was also a Hindu. The army enlistment was decreased from 40% to 1.2%. “The Sikhs are a lawless people and a menace to the law abiding Hindus ... The [Government] should take strict measures against them." (Pandit Nehru, Indian Prime Minister) Is this the way brothers love each other? Are these honorable titles? If not, then why shout the nonsensical slogans of Hindu Sikh brotherhood? The above quotes also make it crystal clear that it has always been the Hindus who spewed hatred against the Sikhs not the other way around. After independence, Seeta Raam, Patel and Nehru passed a resolution that Punjab will not become a state with its own language, which is exactly what happened. Punjabi Hindus who had been living in Punjab and had been speaking Punjabi for centuries chose Hindi as their mother tongue instead of Punjabi. Such was their love for their language. When Sikhs started a peaceful protest to create a Punjabi State they were opposed by the majority of the Hindus. To control the situation, Indian army attacked Darbar Sahib in 1955, arrested many Sikh leaders and killed many Sikhs. Prime Minister Jawahar Laal Nehru threatened the safety of Sikhs living outside of Punjab. His statement showed its effect when a 10 years old Sikh boy, Inderjit Singh, was beaten and thrown in the well by the police in Karnaal. It took thousands of arrests and a war with Pakistan in 1965 to convince the Hindu government that Sikhs were loyal to the country and they deserved the State of Punjab. But when that time came the most important parts including the capital were taken away. The water and electricity were given to other states for free. The Indian government had seen the bravery of the Sikhs in 1965 and 1971 wars. The government also knew that as long as Sikhs were united they posed a grave threat to the Hindu Empire. To weaken the Sikh community by creating divisions, the government started supporting anti-Sikhi groups such as Naamdharis and Narakdharis. Anti-Sikhi procession was held by Narakdharis in Sikh holy city of Amritsar and on Sikh holy day of Vaisakhi. Thirteen innocent Sikhs were fired upon and killed. All criminals were safely escorted to Delhi in the government vehicles and later acquitted of all the charges. Fake encounters of Sikhs under National Security Act started taking place and hundreds of Sikhs were killed. Harbans Laal Khana (leader of Shiv Sena), Bhajan Laal (Chief Minister of Haryana) and Lala Jagat Narayan (Editor of Hind Samachaar) started attacking Sikhs and started insulting the Sikh Gurus. Sikhs, who passed through Haryana by trains and roads, were humiliated, killed and women were dishonored. In 1983, everyone with name of “Singh” was stopped from going to the Asian Games in the Indian capital of Delhi. In the early 80s, Sikhs demanded Amritsar to be given the same status of Holy City that had been given to Hindu cities such as Banaras and Hardwar. Hindus not only opposed it but caused a huge uproar in the government. Hindus demonstrated their hatred by raising anti-Sikhi and pro-smoking slogans in the streets of Amritsar. How was the demand of the Sikhs unconstitutional or anti-Hindu? Making Amritsar a holy city would not have harmed the Hindus or the country in any way but the messages was clear that regardless of the state of affairs, Hindu community had nothing but opposition for Sikhs in India. The major attack on the Sikhs happened in 1984 when the Indian army attacked Darbar Sahib under the name of Operation Blue Star. Electricity and telephone lines were cut off and all the reporters were forced to leave. More than 50 Gurdwaras were attacked. Thousands of Indian troops attacked Darbar Sahib just to flush out some 250 Sikhs or so called “terrorists”. In the operation the army used heavy weaponry such as tanks that are only used against another country in time of war. Thousands of Sikhs were killed. The Akal Takhat Sahib was destroyed and all of the property and priceless scriptures were burnt by the army. Saroops of Guru Granth Sahib Ji were burnt. The army walked in the Gurdwara with their shoes on and smoked inside. They were there to destroy the Sikh religion. According to Pettigrew ''The army went into Darbar Sahib not to eliminate a political figure or a political movement but to suppress the culture of a people, to attack their heart, to strike a blow at their spirit and self-confidence." (Joyce Pettigrew: The Sikhs of the Punjab: Unheard Voices of State and Guerrilla Violence, Zed Books Ltd., London, U.K. 1995, page 35) Hindu leaders openly supported the attack. "I don't give a damn if the Golden Temple and whole of Amritsar are destroyed, I want Bhindranwale dead." (Indira Gandhi, Indian Prime Minister, communicating with Gen. Vaidya during "Operation Blue Star") "We have broken the back of the Sikhs and we will get them elsewhere." (M. M. K. Wali, Indian Foreign Secretary, June 7, 1984, Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, Radio 740, As It Happens) Hindu civilians distributed sweets to the army men and danced around in the streets celebrating their victory over the “enemy”. After all this has happened how can we look upon Hindus as our brothers? Has any Sikh ever attacked a Hindu temple, raped a Hindu woman or burnt Hindu holy books in the name of religion or national unity? The oppression and hostility did not stop here. The army started Operation Woodrose under which all Amritdharis were considered terrorists and were to be killed. Some of our innocent countrymen were administered oath in the name of religion to support extremists and actively participate in the act of terrorism. These people wear a miniature kirpan round their neck and are called Amritdhari …. Any knowledge of the 'Amritdharis', who are dangerous people and pledged to commit murders, arson and acts of terrorism, should immediately be brought to the notice of the authorities. These people may appear harmless from outside but they are basically committed to terrorism. In the interest of all of us their identity and whereabouts must always be disclosed" (Baat Cheet, A publication of the Department of Defense, Government of India, Serial Number 153, July 1984; reproduced in Surya Monthly, October 1984, page 6). Women were dishonored and young children were killed. Sikhs in the Indian military were arrested, thousands of which still remain in Indian jails without any charge or trial. For these misdeeds two Sikhs assassinated the Indian Prime Minister Indira Gandhi. The two Sikhs were her bodyguards and were enraged at her evil actions on the holiest of Sikh shrines. Hindus looked at this as a very inhuman act. Rajiv Gandhi, son of Indira and new Prime Minister of India ordered Hindus to kill Sikhs in large numbers. "Let us teach these bastards (the Sikhs) a lesson." (Rajiv Gandhi, October 31, 1984) Hindu leaders organized the mobs and their goons for another Sikh massacre. Hindus were paid in money and liquor to kill Sikhs. Lists of properties owned by the Sikhs were distributed to the mobs. The mobs burnt all the property owned by the Sikhs. Sikhs were burnt alive and women were dishonored including girls as young as 12. Sikhs were killed in a similar way in other states of India. More than 5000 Sikhs were killed in 3 days in Delhi alone and more than 20,000 Sikhs became homeless. The government passed “The Terrorist Affected Areas Act” in 1985 under which the army and the police could arrest any Sikh without any reason and keep him in jail for as long as they could. Freedom of speech, religion, press and all other rights were thrown out the window under this act. The government could take any action including killing of children and raping women to fight terrorism. The government put prices on capturing or killing freedom fighters. The greedy police started killing every young Sikh and started collecting the money. Sikhs were killed in fake encounters; thousands were picked up, killed and then thrown in the rivers. In last twenty years anywhere from 1 million to 1.2 million Sikhs have been killed. All the awards and money paid to the police is considered debt on Punjab by the Hindu government. ...the Indian Government has been the major cause of bloodshed in the state (Punjab)..." (New York Times, Sept.16, 1985) "Indian Government is accused of inhuman barbarities against the people of Punjab." (Justice V.M. Tarkunde, Bombay High Court) A member of the Indian government's "Red Brigade" confessed to State-sponsored terrorism against the Sikhs. (The Ottawa Citizen, Feb. 12, 1989) The current situation of Punjab is getting worse and worse everyday. Currently, Hindu organizations like RSS, Shiv Sena and Bajrang Dal are attacking Sikhi and distributing false literature on Sikhi. They are distorting the Sikh history. Sikhi is being mixed with Hinduism and shown as a sect of Hinduism. Many of the Sikh martyrs are being classified as Hindu warriors. Guru Gobind Singh Ji is being equated with worthless Hindu kings who oppressed their own people. All of this has been incorporated in the books that have become part of the education system. This is a direct attack on the future generation of the Sikhs. Punjab is being flooded with liquor and bars have been opened on every corner of the streets. Many young Sikhs including girls are into drugs. 23% of Punjab’s revenue comes from selling liquors and drugs. AIDS and abortion are out of control in Punjab. Sikh youth is being diverted away from Sikhi. Sikhs are being mocked in Indian movies. Sikhs are being called “terrorists” and being misrepresented by the Indian government. One example is worth mentioning here: When a Christian missionary with his two sons came to India to preach, he was burnt alive by the Hindus. The criminal who was arrested was a hindu but his name was changed to Dara Singh and his file was given to the Australian government to show that this was done by a Sikh. Thus giving a bad name to the Sikhs. Conclusion Hindu are willing to do anything to destroy Sikhi and Punjabi. This has become their mission. They want Hindu, Hindi and Hindustan. There is no place for Sikhs in India. Many Hindus do not have an iota of love for Sikhs. The above examples clearly prove that Hindus have always been hostile to Sikhi. They have forgotten the times when Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji saved their religion from going extinct, and their women were saved from the Mughals and Pathans by Baba Ajit Singh Ji, Bhai Jassa Singh Ji, and Bhai Hari Singh Ji Nalua. Sikhs freed them from the Mughals, British and many foreign invaders like Ahmad Shah and Nadir Shah. In return they have given us nothing but their opposition, hostility and betrayal. Their opposition in Mughal Empire resulted in the Sikh massacres and first holocaust. Their opposition during the Sikh kingdom resulted in annexation of Punjab by the British. Their opposition during the British Empire resulted in disrespect to many of our Gurdwaras including Darbar Sahib. Their current opposition is apparent from their constitution, attacks on our Gurdwaras and Sikh genocide in the last 25 years. By betraying the Sikh community that has always been at forefront in fighting foreign invaders and rulers, the Hindus have become the real traitors of India. They sided with the foreign rulers and helped them fight the only nation that was fighting for freedom. Hindus have opposed us in the last 500 years and helped the foreign rulers take over our land. They are attacking our religion, culture, history, language, Gurdwaras, women, future generations, pride, dignity and our conscious. Their mission is to eradicate Sikhi, to assimilate our religion, and to keep us as slaves in India. It is time the Sikhs wake up and realize their responsibility. Our future depends on us. This is no time for us to sleep carelessly. Without our own country the chances of survival of Sikhi are getting less and less. We all should consider the history of how other communities became separated and developed. No Quam (community) without achieving independent existence can progress. As long as a quam remains a branch or sect of another, it remains in a state of slavery and suffers. As long as the Christians did not separate from Jews they were not in a very good situation. In fact, Christianity was once reduced to almost nothing. After great reflection the Christians separated themselves from the Jews so much so they changed their sacred day from Saturday to Sunday. The premier counsel of the Guru to us is about unity and mutual love and respect; we can never forget that. We love all our neighbors, any harm to them, we consider that as our own harm but we cannot be one with Hindus on account of religion and social principles. We have learned from experience that the Sikhs have suffered a lot on account of their mixing with the Hindu quam and that is still happening. We are a separate nation. We deserve our own country where we can live as Sikhs with dignity and pride and where our future generations can flourish and learn the values of Sikh principles. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Bibliography 1) Singh, Ajmer. Sikh Politics in 20th Century. Amritsar: Singh Brothers, 2003. 2) Singh, Sangat. The History of Sikhs. 3) Udhokay, Sukhpreet Singh. Tabay Roas Jageyo. 4) Mahmood, Cynthia. Fighting for Faith and Nation. 5) Narang, Saroop Singh. How the Brave Sikhs Became Slaves. 6) Darshi, A.R. The Gallant Defender. 7) Nabha, Kahan Singh. Hum Hindu Nahin.
  12. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3jR4Zx2vbE a vid on enemys of the panth n how the infiltrate punjab
  13. uttar pradesh is run by RSS hindu terrorist no suprise there
  14. BLACKLIST. 1.)PARKASH BADAL. 2.)MANPREET BADAL. 3.)SUKHBEER BADAL. 4.)HARSIMRAT BADAL. 6.)KPS GILL. 7.)MOHAN BHAGWAT. 8.)MOHAMMAD IZAR ALAM. 9.)JAGDISH TYTLER. 10.)SAJJAN KUMAR. ... 11.)RULDA SINGH. 12.)L.K. ADVANI. 13.)PUNEET LAMBA. 14.)ATAL BIHARI BAJPAYEE. 15.)AMRINDER SINGH GILL. 16.) K.S. BRAR. 17.)GURMEET RAM RAHIM. 18.)ASUTOSH NOORMAHLIA. 19.)HARDEV NARAKDHARI. SINGHAA NU BENTI AA KI EE COPY KAR KE RAKH LOO AUR JADO SAMA MILE CHAK DEO. add if you know anymore these ppl have killed many sikhs .
  15. pakistan is not our friend . if they were our ally then right when harmander sahib got attacked they wouldve attacked the indian army right. that was such a good chance to for pakistan to attack. pakistan muslims want sikhs to finish because sikhs r the only ones that can stop them or they want to be allys with sikhs for there own reasons . if pakistan did help us it would probably want help back in return . we need some1 like Sant Jarnail Singh Ji back n badal out n revived militancy.
  16. =2 links that describe the resons for farmers suicides in india
  17. hindus out of punjab in delhi uttar pradesh are RSS bases and do not want to spread sikhi . they have killed over 4 million sikh youth since 84 till now and they are re-writing sikh history maming it look bad saying SRI GURU TAGH BAHADUR SAHIB JI didnt get shaheed for hindus , which is true he did it for everyone , he did it for freedom to practice ones religon . they even call SRI GURU GOBIND SINGH JI a hindu king who terriozed the public and they are ruining sikh scriptures,history taking over gurduaras doing so much bead bi you probably hear on the news SRI GURU GRANTH SAHBI JI SAROOPS torn found in garbage burned . We cant live in india anymore . the government even helps with this because they are against sikhi spreading s othey help fake sects like namdharis radho sawmis dera fake baba rss they help all of them . over 75% youth in punjab is addicted to drugs . there are tekhas (liquor shops) in every pind and there a deras in every pind y to take sikhs away from sikhi . we need khalistan.
  18. read the first post i made it explains y go to the bottom of it it talks about how khalistan can survive a nation
  19. Why Khalistan? By: Bijla Singh Note - For more information go to Sikh Freedom website. Khalistan is the Sikh homeland. By definition it means land of pure people. Currently it is under Indian government's control. Some people support it, some don't. Many people have different opinions about how to free Khalistan. Some people are just totally confused. So the purpose of this article is to explain why Khalistan is needed, how to free it and what free Khalistan will be like etc. First, it is important to talk about why Khalistan is needed. Khalistan is not a destiny, it is a necessity. Guru Gobind Singh Ji said: "Raj Bina Nahin Dharam Chale Hain, Dharam Bina Sab Dalle Malle Hain" which literally means that sovereignty is a MUST in order for a religion to survive; otherwise religion perishes. Now you can understand that even Guru Gobind Singh Ji himself has said it. There are many reasons why we (Sikhs) need Khalistan. I will give you some reasons starting from the beginning. We shouldn't live with Hindus for many reasons. Hindus have always betrayed Sikhs. From the time of Gurus, Hindus have always been against Sikhs. You can't find a single name of a Hindu who was loyal to Sikhs. During two holocausts in the 18th century and many wars against Mughals, Sikhs did not receive any help from Hindus, not even from Rajputs and Marathas. It was Hindus who betrayed Sikhs and helped British army to take over Punjab, Khalistan which included all of Pakistan and some of the Indian states like Kashmir, Haryana and Himachal Pardesh. For doing this Hindu Dogras got Kashmir and the rest of the country became part of the British empire. Sikhs had fought for helpless Hindus and freed their women from Muslim invaders for two hundred years and this is how Hindus returned the favor. Even Punjabi Muslims fought against British from the side of the Sikhs but not the Hindus. Punjab was never part of India. Name "India" didn't even come until the east India company. British had occupied the whole of India but then Punjab was not part of British empire. It was a separate country. British ruled over India for more than 200 years and for 92 years over Punjab, Khalistan. After British took over Punjab it became part of British empire and when India gained independence it was handed over to the Indian government to be ruled. It was because of Hindus that Sikhs lost their country. Before India became independent the Hindus leaders of the new nation Nehru and Gandhi promised that Sikhs would be given full rights in India and that no law would be passed without consulting Sikhs. "...in future, the Congress shall accept no constitution which does not meet with the satisfaction of the Sikhs" (The Lahore session of the Congress Party. December 31, 1929) "...the brave Sikhs of Punjab are entitled to special considerations. I see nothing wrong in an area set up in the North of India wherein, the Sikhs can also experience the glow of freedom." (Jawahar Lal Nehru, Lahore Bulletin, January 9, 1930) "I ask you to accept my word and the Resolution of the Congress that it will not betray a single individual much less a community. Let God be the witness of the bond that binds me and the Congress with you (the Sikhs). When pressed further Gandhi said that Sikhs would be justified in drawing their swords out of the scabbards as Guru Gobind Singh had asked them to, if Congress would renege on its commitment." (Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi, Young India, March 19, 1931) "You (Sikhs) take my word that if ever the Congress or I betray you, you will be justified to draw the sword as taught by Guru Gobind Singh" (M. K. Gandhi). After the British left India, Sikhs were fired from their jobs and Hindus were hired. Then Indian constitution was written but Sikhs refused to sign it in the house of parliament because under Amendment (Dhara) 25 it declared Sikhism as part of Hinduism. When Sikhs talked to Nehru about their rights, he said "The time has changed now. If you wanted to live freely then why didn't you demand for a separate country from British?" Look at some more quotes that explain the real attitude of Hindus towards Sikhs. " To preserve the unity of India, if we have to eradicate 2-kror [ 20 millions ] Sikhs, we will do so. (Balram Jhakhar, a colleague of P.V. Narsimharao, the former Indian Prime Minister) " The Sikhs are a lawless people and a menace to the law abiding Hindus ... The [Government] should take strict measures against them." (Pandit Nehru, Indian Prime Minister, on Sikhs) "Kya main taqat dushman (the enemy -the Sikhs) ke haath main de dun (How can I entrust power into the hands of the enemies)." (Jawahar Lal Nehru, 1961) " I hate the very physique of a Sikh because of the turban and beard. " (Vallabh Bhai Patel, late Indian top politician) "I don't give a damn if the Golden Temple and whole of Amritsar are destroyed, I want Bhindranwale dead." (Indira Gandhi, Indian Prime Minister, communicating with Gen. Vaidya during "Operation Blue Star") "We have broken the back of the Sikhs and we will get them elsewhere." (M. M. K. Wali, Indian Foreign Secretary, June 7, 1984, Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, Radio 740, As It Happens) "Let us teach these bastards (the Sikhs) a lesson." (Rajiv Gandhi, October 31, 1984) "... a threat to the villagers that all males would be killed and their women taken to army camps to breed a new race if there was any militant activity in their village." (Brig. R. P. Sinha, Indian Army, March 8, 1991) "You do not know the might of our armed forces. We will eliminate 10,000 Sikh youths and the world will know nothing about it." (Chander Shekhar, former Prime Minister of India, CK, 21st October, 1991) When China attacked India from the side of Nepal and Kashmir, coincidentally, Nehru was near Nepal. When he heard the news of war, he forgot all about his peaceful speeches and called for the army. The military didn't arrive there for a few days. There were only 500 Sikhs who fought China and held Chinese army back. Nehru was saved by Sikhs and he came back to Delhi. As soon as he came back he said "How can I entrust power into the hands of the enemies?" Nepal's side was saved but China took over some of Kashmir which is still under their rule. In India all states were created on the language basis but Punjab was not declared a Punjabi State. Sikhs started demanding for a Punjabi state and Sikhs launched a peaceful morcha. More than 100,000 Sikhs were arrested but the government paid no attention to this matter. Nehru said "If there ever be a Punjabi state then all Sikhs will have to move to Punjab and the government will not be responsible for their safety." The morcha went on. During this morcha, Indian police walked in Darbar Sahib with their shoes on and tear gas was thrown inside the main building. In 1965 the war broke out between India and Pakistan. It was Sikhs who fought bravely and defeated Pakistan. Hindus couldn't stand in front of Pakistan's army. After seeing loyalty of Sikhs, Indian government decided to create a Punjabi state but it was divided into three parts Haryana, Himachal Pardesh and whatever left was became Punjab. Other two parts became Hindi states and Punjab was declared a Punjabi state. Punjab was divided on purpose because Indian government had seen bravery of Sikhs and the government was afraid that if Sikhs turn against Indian government, they will take over or if they by any chance demand for a free Punjab then they won't have much land. Indian government also divided the Sikh army into many battalions. Indian government always wanted to divide Sikhs and it did by walking on the steps of British and adapting their theory called "divide and rule." The Indian government says Punjab was divided on the basis of language . The government says Sikhs did not occupy the majority in Punjab and Punjabi was not spoken in all parts of Punjab. But the fact is, the Indian government didn't want Sikhs to become majority which would make Hindu majority the leader of Punjab. In Patiala, when Sikhs outnumbered Hindus by 14,000, Nehru and Patel moved about 30 thousand Hindus in Patiala to show that Sikhs were a minority. Hinduism is a caste religion. Low caste people didn't have any rights in India. So they started converting to Sikhism because Sikhism gives equality to all people. Number of these low caste people were about 140 to 150 million and they were from 34 different castes. Seeing this Nehru and Patel gave more rights to low caste people and said only Hindus will have these rights. This stopped their conversion. Only 4 out of those 34 castes were considered Sikhs. Others claimed themselves as Hindus. Today, low caste people like Harijans have more rights. They even have reserved seats in colleges regardless of their grades. This was because of Patel. Furthermore, Punjab's capital Chandigarh was also made the capital of Haryana. There is no high court in Punjab. Punjab has no control over its water, electricity and dams. All the electricity produced in Punjab is sent to Haryana, Rajasthan, Himacham Pardesh and Delhi. These states are given hydro projects which is affordable and cheap. The electricity that Punjab is given comes from the thermal plant which is more expensive. Don't think its better for Punjab. Instead it is worse because most of the electricity will be used by farmers who happen to be Sikhs. This means they will have to pay more than others. It doesn't effect Hindus because they live in cities and work in other professions. Cheap electricity which belongs to Punjab and which could save Sikh farmers some money is given to the other Indian states. The government increased its activities against Sikhs in late the 70s which led to massacre of thirteen Sikhs in 1978 who were peacefully protesting against an Indian agent who was preaching anti Sikh material. When Sikhs filed a case in the supreme court in Punjab, it was heard in Haryana because the majority was Hindus in that state. Those majority people (Hindus) accused Sikhs for causing the trouble and the agent and his followers were released. This really outraged Sikhs. At that time a person named Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale started preaching Sikhism in Punjab and all over India. He spoke against Indian activities against Sikhs. His speeches made Sikhs realize that they were not free in India. They were being treated like second class citizens. Sikhs started demanding more rights and wanted to be treated like first class citizens. Sikhs launched a peaceful march. A band of 51 Sikhs would go to protest peacefully and would get arrested by the police. But Indian government didn't care and more than 150,000 Sikhs were arrested. This lasted for more than two years. In between this time, the police burnt copies of Sri Guru Granth Sahib at Mehta Choank, killed many Sikhs in fake encounters. But not a single case was filed. On the other hand when a Hindu was killed by police, prime minister Indira Gandhi herself came over to his house and gave his family money. His case was filed within hours. But police and the government did not do anything when copies of Sri Guru Granth Sahib were burnt. Many Sikhs were killed but their families didn't receive anything from the government. Indian government completely showed that one Hindu's life was more important than not only 150 Sikhs that were killed but also Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. When Sikhs lost all the hopes from the government, they raised arms as instructed by Guru Gobind Singh Ji to get freedom. Seeing this Indian government launched a sudden attack on Golden Temple and killed thousands of Sikhs. Other 45 Gurdwaras were also attacked by the army. Women were dishonored. Many innocent children were killed. After the attack was over all Sikhs inside the Golden Temple were taken out, lined up and then shot dead. Reference library which included many hand written scriptures and priceless antiques was burnt. One bullet had gone through Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Indian troops walked inside Golden Temple with their shoes on. They smoked cigarettes, drank alcohol inside the Gurdwara which was highly disrespectful to the Sikh faith. If there was Khalistan, there would have been no attack on the Golden Temple. After Indira Gandhi was killed, Hindus killed more than 5,000 Sikhs within five days and these riots were led by the congress. Sajjan Kummar (still alive), Lalat Makan and Arjan Das (killed by Sukhdev Singh and Harjinder Singh) were congressmen who played a major role in these riots. They were gives orders by Rajiv Gandhi, Narsima Rao and Attal Bihar Vaajpai (Indian prime minister now). Many Hindu criminals were released from jails to kill Sikhs and each was given 500 rupees and one bottle of liquor. Congressmen gave Hindus the list of Sikhs' properties and their home addresses. Hindus went from house to house, dragged Sikhs, especially young males, out of their homes and burnt them alive. Their properties were looted and destroyed. Hindus' target was to kill Sikh males from age 10 to 40. Women above age of 14 were dishonored. This went on without any interruption from the police. In fact, the police was helping these mobs. Every bus on the road was stopped and checked if there were any Sikhs traveling in it. If they found any Sikh, he was killed on the spot. Police was motivating the mobs by saying "If Sikhs were given even one day to kill Hindus, they would've killed all Hindus in India. You, on the other hand are too slow." These brutal things happened to Sikhs in India. If there was Khalistan there would've been no riots and Hindus wouldn't have dared to attack Sikhs. Sikhs are being killed in fake encounters. There is disappearance of Sikh youth in Punjab. Indian government has killed from 1 to 1.2 million Sikhs and about 70 thousand Sikhs are in jail. Here are some of the methods of torture, humiliation and atrocities used by Indian Government against the Sikhs. These are taken from www.saintsoldiers.net To interrogate the Sikhs, a round log of wood is placed on their legs, and after putting heavy weight on the log it is rotated on the legs. Chilly powder is sprinkled in the eyes and sex organs of the Sikhs. Sikhs are hung upside down from the ceilings till they became unconscious. The body joints are battered. Electric shocks are administered to the genitals making most of the youth impotent Sikh women, during interrogation, are hurt in their sex organs. Filthy abuse is showered on them. Violence is inflicted on the parents in presence of their sons and daughters and vice-versa. Brothers are forced to beat sisters and vice versa. violence is inflicted on adult girls after stripping them naked and their sex organs are damaged. They are sexually assaulted, pregnancies are terminated of the expectant females. Crotchets are pulled apart. The victims of inhuman violence are made to sit naked in winter, and under the sun in summer, kept sleepless for days in solitary cells. Sikhs are subjected to severe beatings and filthy abuse in the presence of their village folks. Dead bodies of Sikhs killed in fake encounters are not handed over to their parents to conceal marks of excessive violence The state manipulates tailored post mortem reports from the doctors, and burns the dead bodies of the Sikhs after falsely declaring them unclaimed. All sorts of excesses are made on the parents of underground Sikh youths. Indiscriminate atrocities are committed on the parents of the underground youth of the area where some militant action takes place. Atrocities are committed without caring for one's age, health, life or death. If some one luckily survives such brutal excesses, it is well and good But if one dies while under "interrogation", then such a dead body is taken out, pierced with some bullets, and a news item is sent that a dreaded terrorist has been shot dead in an encounter Houses of underground Sikh youths are demolished, their belongings are looted, crops destroyed, their tube well motors are taken away, and they are prevented from sowing crops. Even animals of the families of underground Sikh youth are subjected to police anger. After summoning the families to the police station, villagers are told not to take care of the animals of the families of the underground youth. Generally the animals starve to death. False cases are registered against innocent Sikh youths, later they are let off taking fat bribes. Reporters giving true reports are arrested, an undeclared censorship is imposed on them to stop them from exposing police atrocities. Peaceful protests by the Human rights organizations are prohibited. Press is used to launch vicious and false propaganda against the Sikhs. Hardened criminals are inducted into Sikh movement to help in arresting the Sikh revolutionaries and sabotage the movement. Such criminals are inducted to tarnish the fair name of the Sikh revolutionaries are now called the "Black Cats" in the Punjab. Under SSP Izhar Alam, such criminal gangs were named the "Alam Sena." Besides, such police sponsored bands of criminals also operated under the name of Panthic Tiger Force and "Red Brigade." The director general of the police himself admitted about the "Black Cats" bands. In his interview to the India Today on Sept. 15, 188, KPS Gill had announced without an iota of shame that the security forces in Punjab cannot do anything without the help of secret bands (Black Cats). Thousands of innocent pilgrims, children, females, aged people, who got encircled in the Golden Temple during Operation Bluestar were made to die through starvation and thirst. The whole of Punjab was converted into a vast jail by clamping curfew on the entire area. The army bulletin branded all Amritdhaaree's as terrorists. Indian army desecrated the Gurdwaras and committed such atrocities on the Sikhs that even the soul of Ahmed Shah Abdali might have felt ashamed of. The targets of army guns were none else but religious persons, devotees, pilgrims, ladies, old people, children or some militants whom the Indian government deemed as terrorists. No neutral observer was allowed to take stock of the situation. The injured during the attack on the Golden Temple were subjected to extreme partiality. Whereas every assistance and facility was made available to the injured army personnel, there was no such provision for the wounded belonging to the other side. The number of prisoners taken was rather small. There is ample scope for doubt that the Indian army had thought it better to eliminate the thousands of people seized in the Golden Temple instead of taking them prisoners or having to provide them with medical assistance. No need was felt to perform religious rites for the dead pilgrims and devotees. Before consigning the dead bodies to flames, no effort was made to identify them. No relatives were informed. No dead bodies were handed over to the next of kin. In such a situation only the dead or those wishing to be dead could be present at the last rites. All dead bodies were placed in heaps and then con- signed to flames. IT was never insured that among the dead there could also be some Muslim devotees. To cremate is against the tenets of Islam. No need was felt to give a list of the dead to the Red Cross or any other International Agency Despite such atrocities, no commission was appointed to go into this dark episode. Even the British, the foreign rulers, had cared to appoint the Hunter commission to inquire into the Jallianwalla Massacre which was of a much less magnitude on the other hand. The Indian government, on the other hand, took all steps to hide the excesses of the army. These days, Indian government has flooded Punjab with Dehdhari Gurus (human fake Gurus) who preach against Sikhism. RSS, Shiv Sena and Bajrang Dal with the support of Indian government are distributing drugs in colleges. Sikhs are being humiliated in newspapers, on televisions and in movies. Anti-Sikh books are being published by the government to prove that Sikhism is part of Hinduism and Sikhs are Hindus although they will never succeed. If there was Khalistan, there would be no bars in Punjab, no anti Sikh propaganda, no humiliation of Sikh character by the media, and no drug distribution on the land of the Gurus. Some people have many different questions on Khalistan. So I will try to answer those question to the best of my knowledge. First lets look at what American Sikhs of Sikhnet.com say about Khalistan. "The Gurus believed in creating harmony between people of different faiths, so that we could all live together as children of the same God. Khalistan, to me, doesn't support that mission. It creates even more divisions in the name of religion when the Khalsa are here to protect and serve so that religions don't divide people any more. If all of the money, time and energy different people spent on trying to create Khalistan were instead channeled into securing true freedom of religion for all people, the Sikhs would be loved, honored and admired. Sikhs are here to serve the interests of the entire humanity, not just their own interests. This is what a sovereign does. Remember, the Khalsa are the spiritual royalty of the world. We are here to rule-not through power and politics, but through love and service. We are here to protect-not ourselves, but all people. We are here to secure that every human being has a chance to enjoy his or her life the way God intended. That is our duty. Khalistan distracts us from that duty." Yes, Gurus did believe in creating harmony between people of different faiths but what if those faiths turn against us and don't let us fulfill our mission which is Khalsa's mission, then what? Shouldn't we fight for our rights as instructed by Guru Gobind Singh Ji? What is the meaning of the Kirpan if we don't fight for freedom? It is not about land, it is about freedom of religion, speech and everything else. Guru Gobind Singh Ji said that Khalsa should live a free life, but how can we live a free life under someone else's rule especially Hindu rule? Guru Gobind Singh Ji taught Sikhs to stay away from "Bipran Ki Reet". The only way to stay away from it is by having the freedom to fully practice our religion. Since 1947, more and more Sikhs have started following Bipran Ki Reet but not a single Sikh followed Bipran Ki Reet in 18th century. When Sikhs had their own country (1799-1849), it was the best era in Sikhism. Look at all the good things Sikhs did. Sikh population increased significantly. People from America and many European countries lived in the Sikh Kingdom. Did Sikhs not serve the humanity then? Who was not happy in the Sikh country? Not a single person was unhappy and no one was given a death sentence. At the fall of Sikh kingdom Hindus and Muslims both shed tears. This shows that Khalsa treated everyone equally. That's why people of all faiths cried from their hearts when British annexed Punjab. In order to serve the humanity you need lots of money and power. To get money you need a country that would back you up. For example, how did Christian missionaries serve the humanity? They had many countries behind them which gave them all the money they needed. In India, Christian schools were opened by missionaries but the money was provided by England and America. If we have Khalistan, we can do better job in preaching the message of truth. Without political power, it is impossible because there will always be people against you and your religion. Indian government and Brahmins are well aware of Gurus' message but they are doing their best job to destroy it because they are jealous of it. After learning the truth about Sikhism, the British tried to make many conflicts between Sikhs and tried to destroy the Sikh religion. Why were there no converts from English people after they learned the truth? Simple, its because they were jealous because Sikhism preaches the message of truth which conflicts with Christianity. If we have Khalistan, it is a lot easier to do the job. Khalistan will provide money for preachers who would preach the truth. People will only hear you when you have the power, otherwise they will crush you. For example, famous scientist Galileo discovered the truth but did anyone listen to him? He didn't have any political power, so he was killed. Those Christian priests didn't listen to him even though he was telling the truth. If we send a Sikh preacher to preach to any country like Afghanistan, he would be killed because Muslims would not tolerate anything that conflicts with Islam. Then who would be responsible for his death? No country would put force on Afghanistan's government to punish the murderers. But if the same preacher is sent from Khalistan, he has political power behind him which means its less likely that he would be killed. There will a country behind him that supports him. Khalistani government would put pressure on Afghanistan's government to hand over the murderers so they could meet the justice. People will listen to Sikhs if Sikhs have power. Through power we can teach that people shouldn't fight in the name of religion and should live together. We should be worried about our safety first. By living in Khalistan, we can set an example for the people. Who would listen to you if you have no recognition in the world? People would have better knowledge about Sikhism. If people see a person with a turban, they would say he is a Sikh from Khalistan. But today if a Sikh is seen, he is misunderstood to be a Muslim or Hindu. If a Sikh says he is from India, most people automatically assume he is a Hindu. How many people really know about the Sikh religion? Sikhism is more than 500 years old and yet only some 30 million people know the message of the Gurus. WHY? If there is Khalistan, the message of Gurus can be preached in better ways. Think about it. We can teach people how to rule with love and humility if we have Khalistan. Because Khalistan will set an example for them. Khalistan means freedom of religion for the Sikhs. Why would Sikhs ask for freedom of religion if there was no interference in Sikhism by the Indian government? Without Khalistan we can hardly survive let alone having the responsibility of preaching to others. We can't even solve our own issues and Sikhnet is talking about solving world issues and serving the humanity. Thousands of Sikhs were killed in 1984 and their families received no support from anyone. Shouldn't we take care of our people first and then set an example for others and teach them how to do it? For example, If I drink alcohol and tell someone else not to drink it, would he listen to me? It will be all in vain. We need to do it first which means taking care of those orphans whose parents sacrificed for the Sikh faith. Have Sikhnet people served those people yet? They live in America. What do they know about situation of Punjab and Sikhs living there? They are definitely not serving people living in many third world countries. Besides, they have already separated themselves from the rest of the world by living in America. If Khalistan divides people then they are divided already because America is also separated from other countries. American government sent air force to Afghanistan that bombed many cities and killed many innocent people. Have Sikhnet people taught anything to their own government yet? Their own government divided them and separated them from the rest of the world. How can we preach freedom of religion if we are not free and don't have freedom of religion. As I have stated in beginning that Guru Gobind Singh Ji said in his own words "Raj Bina Nahin Dharam Chale Hain, Dharam Bina Sab Dalle Malle Hain" means sovereignty is a MUST in order for a religion to survive otherwise religion perishes. Now should we listen to Sikhnet people and anti Khalistan people or Guru Gobind Singh Ji. Sikhism is a way of life which says religion, science and politics are together. That's why Akaal Takhat Sahib stands in front of Darbar Sahib. I just don't know how can Khalistan distract them from doing anything that Sikhi requires. "All Sikhs-regardless of what their cultural background-recognize the line as saying, "Khalsa shall rule." The question is-in what manner will they rule? The ruler ship of Khalsa is not one of physical might, but one of spiritual sovereignty." Very true, but Bhai Sahib Bhai Randheer Singh Ji, Baba Nand Singh Ji, Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji Bhindranwale and many other saints have said that Khalsa Rule of the world shall come through humility. A Khalsa rules over his five thieves and maya which makes him a spiritual ruler. This means there is a spiritual sovereignty. If we look at Sikhs of 18th century, we find that each and every one of them was a real Sikh and Khalsa. They were real Sikhs who had total control over five thieves because they had reached the highest level of spirituality. So they were ruling spiritually already. The problem with the above interpretation is that it implies that no Khalsa has been capable of spiritual sovereignty because it says Khalsa will rule spiritually. Another question rises from this interpretation. It also implies that Sikhs have been reading "Raj Karega Khalsa" for over 300 years and they had been unable to understand its true meanings until these "White Sikhs" came along. This is very wrong. All Sikhs knew what it meant. Only Khalsa is qualified for sovereignty. Now, if we look at the Shabad clearly, we find that "Khalsa" is referred to the whole Panth not a single person. Because a Khalsa who becomes one with the Guru and has total control over five thieves has spiritual sovereignty already. So it must be referring to the whole Panth. When the whole Panth gets together and wakes up in the morning to do Naam Simran, Khalsa Raj will come and there is no doubt about it. I don't say it, many respected Saints in the Panth have said it. Bhai Rama Singh Ji from England has said the same thing and it is well written in his book. Guru Ji has given us the Raj but are we well qualified or capable of ruling? The only way Khalsa is qualified to rule is when Khalsa does Naam Simran and follows the Rehat Maryada of Guru Ji. Today Sikhs are not doing that. Most of Sikhs do not even take Amrit. So are we qualified? No we are not. Sikhnet people have no understanding about the Sikh history of 18th century. "Being a Sikh in Northern India is both a cultural ethnicity and a spiritual identity. Because of that-there are a lot of issues that you face in the Punjab related to politics, society and culture. Those of us who have become Sikhs in the West already have a cultural and political identity. However, Sikhs in the Punjab have political, social and economic challenges to face. Because of that, you connect very strongly with Guru Gobind Singh's message of standing up to tyranny and becoming sovereign over your own life. We firmly believe that when people are willing to live in tune with the Will of God, then all these social, political and economic injustices will automatically come back into balance. But as long as people do not live surrendered to the Will of God, the imbalances will continue. If it God's will that the Sikhs have an independent state, then all you need to do is meditate and learn how to surrender yourself to God's Will and by His hand, without any effort from your ego, it shall happen." There are many problems with the above statements. First they say they don't support dividing people but now they say "It is not their issue that Punjabi Sikhs are being killed in India." When a person takes Amrit he loses his own identity and his caste. After taking Amrit he/she belongs to Anandpur Sahib and his father is Guru Gobind Singh Ji and mother Mata Sahib Kaur Ji. Anandpur Sahib is in Punjab. So either you belong to Punjab or you belong to America. According to the above statement Sikhnet people do not want to belong to Anandpur Sahib. They say they already have a culture but American culture is so anti-Sikh. Just look at it. Does American culture fit in Sikh religion? Not at all. When you become a Sikh your identity either political or spiritual becomes one. So there is no point in saying that they have different political identity. There is no political system better than Akal Takhat's Sahib which was set up by Guru Ji. By saying they already have a political identity they mean that they don't belong to political system of Guru Gobind Singh instead they belong to American politics which is created by humans. Once you are 21 you can legally buy drugs and smoke tobacco in America. This is the American law. Is this the identity they belong to???? Use of tobacco and drugs is prohibited in Sikhi and is against Sikh principles but American political laws legalized it. If you are a Sikh, you belong to Anandpur Sahib and the highest political authority for you becomes Akaal Takhat Sahib. Did Panj Pyare not tell them this or they are sticking with American political system on purpose? Sikhs are connected with Akaal Takhat Sahib just as the Catholics are connected with the Vatican. Sikhs are not fighting because they want to rule over others. They are fighting for the truth because Indian government attacked Golden temple and killed thousands of Sikhs. Khalsa is fighting against oppression. Khalistan is not about political issues. It is about religious freedom. Guru Ji taught us to fight for the truth and for justice. Did Guru Ji not fight for justice? He did and so is His Khalsa. Sikhs in the 18th century fought for truth and the right cause. Did they not live in tune with will of God? Guru Gobind Singh Ji fought against oppression because Guru Ji said "When all other means have failed, it is your right to raise arms and fight for your rights." This is exactly what Sikhs are doing. We have to be both Saints and Warriors. Practicing Naam Simran and fighting against oppression at the same time is what Guru Ji has taught us. Guru Gobind Singh Ji said that sovereignty is a MUST for a religion otherwise it perishes. Do they have different interpretation of this? If the only purpose of Sikhi is to meditate and accept the will of God then what was the point of building Akaal Takhat Sahib? The whole point is to fight for the truth while doing Naam Simran and following Sikhi. Besides, fighting for justice and righteousness is part of Sikhi which they are not following. A Khalsa should fight his inner thieves and outer thieves. If you don't fight then anyone can take over you. If everything is only about meditating then Guru Nanak Dev Ji wouldn't speak against Babur. Babur didn't do anything to Guru Ji but Guru Ji spoke for human rights and the truth. Why didn't Guru Ji just say "these are not my issues. I am not being harmed. If others are being harmed then its not my problem?" Why didn't Guru Ji say this if this is the right way? Why didn't Guru Nanak Dev Ji wait for God to end the whole oppression? Why did Guru Ji have to speak for the people? Why should we wait for God to do something? "God helps those who help themselves" (Benjamin Franklin-an American politician and forefather). This is very true. If we should wait for God to do something then why didn't Guru Ji wait for God to do something? Why did Guru Ji fight? Why did Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji sacrifice to save the Hindu religion? He could've waited for God to fix the whole problem but He didn't because Guru Ji knew it was not the right way. If we just sit back and start doing Naam Simran then anyone would be able to crush us. Guru Ji made us Saint-Warriors. So where is the warrior spirit in Sikhnet people? God gave us two hands and Kirpan is given by Guru Gobind Singh Ji and we have to fight for our rights with our hands if it comes to it. Sikhs are instructed to make their own destiny not to just sit back and wait for God to do it. Then what would be the purpose of God given hands? For example, look at Jews. They are accepting the will of God but there are less Jews in the world than Sikhs. Did they not accept will of God in WW2 in which they lost 6 million of their people? Had they fought using their hands, the outcome of the holocaust may be different. They have suffered for over 5000 years but if they had fought against oppression it would have been a lot different. The Indian government's plan was to go to every village to kill Sikhs which was called Operation Wood Rose but the Sikh army rebelled and government's attention turned to rebellions, otherwise they would've killed all Sikhs. I speak for human rights whether it be Sikhs or Jews or Christians. I think the Sikhnet people are missing the whole point. By the time they realize the truth, it will be too late but Khalsa Shall Rule. Punjab belongs to us and we will rule it. I want to ask them one question: If the whole American government turns against them (Sikhnet people) and their children are killed in the streets, men are burnt alive, women are dishonored and the government doesn't punish the criminals, would they still say that they are proud to be Americans or would they rather support a separate country? Would they still live among those who killed them? Would they raise a sword and fight like Guru Gobind Singh Ji has taught us or they rather spend their time in serving the criminals and not fight for justice? Or would they just forget about the whole thing, get themselves killed and wait for God to do something? Guru Ji said "Soora So Pehchaniye Jo Lare Deen Ke Haith" which literally means "Brave are those who fight for truth and justice with honor and valor." So why shouldn't we fight to protect our faith? If we should wait for God to do it then why did Guru Ji say these lines? Just for the heck of it? Think about it. Perhaps they should get themselves out of the trap of pacifist thinking and think about the teaching of Gurus only for a moment. We are responsible for our own actions and for doing good and bad things. The Sikhnet people say they belong to America but their own government doesn't recognize them. September 11 was a very bad disaster for Sikhs. How many Americans know about Sikhi? These Americans killed Sikhs. Sikhs were attacked all over the country (look at attacks on Sikhs http://www.attacksonsikhs.com/viewreports.cfm). If there was a Sikh country to back up the foreign Sikhs and to give them support, this wouldn't have happened. Sikhs should always wear a Kirpan but Sikhs are not allowed to wear Kirpans on airplanes, and other government places. Not even in most schools. Sikhs have been living in America for over 100 years and yet American government hasn't understood the significance of Kirpan and they never will until there is a country that represents Sikhs. Sikhs are not admitted in the army and police. In America, which is the most democratic country in the world, Sikhs are being discriminated. In Khalistan Sikhs will be allowed to wear Kirpans everywhere and only then the world would learn about the true message of Sikhi. If there was a Sikh country, no one would have attacked Gurdwaras and killed Sikhs. If there was a Sikh country, the situation would have been different and Punjab wouldn't be stuck between the nuclear war of India and Pakistan. If there is a war, the whole of Punjab will be destroyed. How does their community service help solving the real problems of Sikhs? The Indian government is spending billions of rupees to bring Sikhism into the fold of Hinduism. How does their community service help Sikhs to stop Indian government, RSS and Noormahals from attacking their Sikh brothers in Punjab and India? How? Sikhs are fighting to keep their distinction and appearance, to save their religion and to keep Sikhi alive. If that means a separate country then why not? It doesn't mean we want to divide the world but shouldn't we think about securing Sikh faith first and all the virtues it stands for? If the Indian government doesn't like us and doesn't want to live with Sikhs, then why shouldn't we just be separated? When we gain power we can promote Sikhi and teach the message of the Gurus and universal brotherhood. Can this not be done? Khalistan is not for bad purpose. When I ask any non-Punjabi Sikh about Khalistan, the vast majority have the same answer that they don't want to be separated or wouldn't want to move to Khalistan. But who says you have to move. Sikhs will still live in other countries. But most of Sikhnet people reply in exactly the same words. Sounds like they need to learn the true purpose of fighting. Perhaps they are sticking with community service a whole lot but what if those people we want to help turn against us, should we not fight to defend ourselves? If yes, then that's exactly what Sikhs are doing. If no, then that is not Sikhi. Now some general questions from Punjabi people. These are the people who are not Amritdhari. They don't practice Sikhism at all. They eat meat, drink alcohol, smoke and do everything that is prohibited by Gurus and yet they call themselves Sikhs. Before I go into their questions, I want to say that only an Amritdhari person is a Sikh. One who follows Guru's teaching is a Sikh and Khalistan is for Sikhs. Everyone will have religious freedom but people who commit adultery, smoke, drink alcohol etc. will not be allowed to live there because not only Sikhism but also all religions prohibit these things. How would Khalistan survive economically? Well, how did India and Pakistan survive after independence? UAE gained its independence in 1971 and it is surviving. Same way Khalistan will survive but it will not be a third world country because Sikhs are very hard working people. Punjab is a cultivated land and it provides most of the food for India. Punjab produces corn, wheat, sugarcanes, sporting goods, clothing, industrial material and many other commodities. Khalistani government will keep this stuff as much as it needs and the rest will be shipped out to other countries as a trade and in return oil and other necessities will be bought. No one in Khalistan will die out of hunger because if Punjab can provide food for 90% of the Indian population then it surely can provide food for everyone in Khalistan because the population in Khalistan will be a lot less than Indian population. Who will be the leader of Khalistan? Panj Pyare will be the leaders of Khalistan. Elections will be held every four years and people will choose Panj Pyare. These Panj Pyare will rule under the authority of Akaal Takhat Sahib. Every city will have Panj Pyare as its leader. There will be no bad leaders in Khalistan because when Khalsa Panth starts doing Naam Simran in the morning, it will gain spiritual power which no one will be able to destroy. Foundation of Khalistan will be laid upon the power of Naam Simran. Guru Gobind Singh Ji said "When Khalsa starts following the true path of the Guru Granth Sahib and abandons all the bad things, I will give them sovereignty." So when the time for Khalistan comes, every Sikh will be a true Sikh and there will be no bad people in Sikhism. Guru Ji said "Raaj Karega Khalsa Aakki Rahe Na Koe" which means Khalsa shall rule and there will be no one against Khalsa. Khalsa Raj (Khalistan) shall come for sure. Khalistan will be a true Khalsa Raj. What about sea ports? There are 42 landlocked countries in the world that are surviving. To say or think that just because of lack of seaport Khalistan will not survive is irrational. There are many third world countries that have sea ports such as Sri Lanka, and Brazil. Landlocked countries are helped by their neighboring countries that have seaports. In return these countries get money and/or something else in exchange. There are numerous possibilities in business. We can use Pakistan’s and/or India’s seaports. I don’t think there is any country that does not want to do business and make profit. How exactly would this work depends on the future, circumstances and situations. Oil can also be imported through India or Pakistan. United Nations is working on passing a treaty that would help landlocked countries get access to seaports. We can survive without a seaport. What would happen if there is war between Pakistan and India? Khalistan will be a neutral country and will be a buffer state between the two countries. With Khalistan as a buffer state both countries will feel safe from each other. Neither Pakistan nor India would dare to step on Khalistan's boundaries. India has fought two wars with Pakistan and every time Pakistan was defeated because only Sikhs fought on the boundaries of Punjab. Sikhs are a martial race. British recognized that soon after Punjab was annexed. Guru Gobind Singh Ji made Sikhs saint-warriors. Sikhs in Khalistan will be true saints and warriors. They will have power of Naam Simran because they will free Khalistan on the power of Naam Simran and one who has this power is never afraid of anyone other than God. By doing Nam Simran one never fears death. We have numerous example from the 18th century. Sikh country will be very powerful and Pakistan would not try to mess with it. Hindus can't fight, so there is no question that Indian government will ever dream of attacking Khalistan. If there is war between India and Pakistan, they will have to fight it outside of Sikh territory. What about control over Gurdwaras outside of Khalistan? Well, all the Gurdwaras will be directly controlled by the Khalistani government run under Akaal Takhat Sahib. Currently, Indian government is not doing anything about the Gurdwaras in Pakistan, Afghanistan and other countries because the Indian government doesn't want Sikhs to be attached with their Gurdwaras. Indian government thinks the only way to destroy Sikhism is to keep Sikhs away from Guru Granth Sahib's message and the Gurdwaras. Gurdwaras outside of India are still standing without the support of Indian government but when there is Khalistan, the government will do its best to take care of these holy places and agreements will be made with the other countries that would give us the direct control over the Gurdwaras. We can negotiate with Pakistani government and have control over our Gurdwaras and they can have control over their mosques. We will negotiate with Pakistani government to give us the control over Sikh Gurdwaras. Committees will be established to manage these Gurdwaras. Monthly reports will be submitted to the officials (not necessarily to the federal government). The money of the Gurdwaras will be spent in managing the Gurdwaras, Sikh schools, parchaar, helping the poor and needy. There is no constitution? Yes, there is but people just never search for it. Khalistan will be totally based on the principles of Sikhi. Gurbani is the constitution. There is not and can never be a better constitution than Gurbani. Guru Ji wrote this constitution more than 400 years ago. But look at the reality. Constitution of the USA was written ten years after thirteen colonies gained independence. Constitution of India was written three years after it gained independence. If these countries can write their constitution after independence then why can't we? No country is perfect. Every country has loopholes in its laws and policies so expecting flawless plans and policies from Khalistanis is not realistic. Laws can be changed. India has amended its constitution many times. So, do not expect a perfect constitution and policies from Khalistan. We should free it peacefully? Guru Gobind Singh Ji said "Koi Kisi Ko Raaj Na Dehain, Jo Lehain Nij Bal Se Lehain" which means "no one gives one freedom and sovereignty, the only way to gain independence is by through power." So is Guru Ji wrong? No definitely not. Thousands Sikhs were killed because they did not have arms and weapons to defend them from mobs. Had they had weapons they would have protected themselves just like couple of Sikhs protected Sees Ganj Sahib Gurdwara in Delhi from four thousand Hindus by taking up arms. Power is not just war with weapons but also war with the pen, intellect, diplomacy and justice. Sikhs lack these today which is why Sikhs need Khalistan. Some people say that their families were killed on the name of Khalistan so they don't support it. But they should look at the facts. If there was Khalistan their families would have never gotten killed. Also, their families were killed because they were Sikhs. Five thousand Sikhs didn't support Khalistan when they were killed in the streets. They were killed because they were Sikhs. Indian government just used the name of Khalistan as an excuse but in reality Indian government never liked any Sikh whether he was Khalistani or Indian. Some people ask What does Khalistan mean for Sikhs in foreign countries? Well, the answer is simple. Khalistan will play a great role in the lives of foreign Sikhs. A strong country will represent them and will preach Sikhi. Foreign countries will understand the true meaning of Kirpan and Sikhs will be allowed to wear Kirpans at all places. Now, Sikhs can't wear Kirpans on airplanes, immigration office, courts and even jails. Governments will never understand the true meaning of Kirpan unless a country represents Sikhi and supports this idea. People think of Sikhi as just a sect because there is no representation of Sikhi in world's politics. Jews thought Christianity was a sect but this changed when Christians took over some countries and they became a separate religion. Khalistan will represent all Sikhs living anywhere in the world. After 9/11 a Sikh was killed in Arizona and many were attacked but the government didn't do much about it. No one even remembers that Sikh now. Khalistan will preach Sikhi and will represent Sikhi and will force the foreign governments to take control and punish the criminals. There will be less discrimination, killing and misunderstanding about Sikhi. In fact, there will be no more misunderstanding and discrimination when there is Khalistan. You will see, Khalistan will be the most powerful country in the world. I can go on but I think you understand what I mean. Also, I think the Panthic Rehat Maryada should be one before there is Khalistan because Sikhs should be connected to each other spiritually. If we drop our differences and keep our own different Rehat Maryada then we won't become a single family. Even if we assume that after keeping our differences we manage to free Khalistan then which Rehat Maryada will be issued from Akaal Takhat Sahib? Sikhs will end up fighting with each other. Example of the thirteen colonies is a perfect example to look at. The thirteen colonies dropped their difference and defeated British. After they gained independence, they became so weak because there was no central government. They started fighting each other internally to gain more power. So I personally think we should become one first and have one Rehat Maryada. Besides, Guru Gobind Singh Ji gave us one Rehat Maryada not many. According to the book of Bhai Rama Singh "Roop Gobind Ka, Raj Khalse Da, Sikka Sone Da" the Khalsa Raj will come for sure. He was a great person with very high spirituality. He has written many things about Khalistan. I recommend everyone to read it because it explains the true concept of Khalistan. It also explains how Khalistan will be free and how Indian government will be defeated. So if you want to learn the real truth read this book, otherwise you will miss a lot about the concept of Khalistan. Guru Arjan Dev Ji gave the sacrifice and we became victorious. Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji gave the sacrifice, and we became victorious. Guru Gobind Singh’s entire family gave the sacrifice and we became victorious. Today, our Akal Takhat has chosen to offer itself as a sacrifice, and we shall not lose. We will get our Khalistan. So get those doubts about Khalistan out of your minds. Khalistan will come. Sikhs will rule Punjab because Punjab belongs to Sikhs and it is their birthright. Finally I want to say Khalistan is needed for some of the following reasons: A central government that represents Sikhs All Sikhs of all races need a homeland It is the duty of all Sikhs to protect Sikhi To keep Sikhi alive by promoting it in other countries in better ways and offer PhDs of Guru Granth Sahib in Sikh universities A peaceful life for all Sikhs which Sikhs haven't enjoyed since 1849 Freedom to wear Kirpan at all places Complete break off from the Hindus and Bipran Ki Reet No more discrimination, injustice and lies to Sikhs No more oppression, holocausts and attacks on Golden Temple No more disappearance of Sikhs in Punjab No more killing of Sikhs in fake encounters No more of insults of Sikh women, turban and Sikh principles No more attacks on Sikh Gurus by Indian government's agents and many more reasons but I hope you understand now. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Khalistan Zindabad
  20. R U OK . DO U EVEN NO WHATS HAPEEING TO SIKHS IN INDIA . OVER 4 MILLION SIKHS DISAPPERED SINCE 84 . OUR GURDUARAS BURNED DOWN BY HINUS N MUSLIMS , SO MANY RAPES , SO MUCH BEADBI OF SRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB , RSS AND HINDU TERROIST WANT TO RUIN N ELIMNATE SIKH RELIGON N U WANT TO HELP THEM . SRI GURU GOBIND SINGH JI SAID WITHOUT SOVERIGNITY RELIGON WILL PERISH WE NEED LAND TO BACK UP SIKHS TO KEEP SIKHISM ALIVE TO GIVE RIGHTS TO SIKHS WE R NOT MUSLIM TERROIST THE INDIAN GOVERNMENT R TERROISTS . WE DIDNT BOMB NY PLANE THE INDIAN GOVERNMENT DID THAT N BLAMED IT ON BABAR KHALSA TO GIVE SIKHS A BAD NAME AND IDENTITY U SO CALLED SIKH U RNOT EVEN SIKH BY DOUBTING UR OWN PPL HOW R CREATING BORDERS EVEN GURU JI HAD RAJ AND MAHARAJ RANJIT SINGH HAD RAJ WE LIVE AS SLAVES TO INDIA IN THE GOVERNMENT N THEN WE HAVE SO CALLED SIKHS LIKE U THAT SO NO KAHLISTAN Y . U R NOT EDUCATED ENOUGH U R THINKING OF US LIKE SOME MUSLIM TERROISTS THAT WANT LAND . WE WANT LAND BECZ HNIDUS R EMLINATING SIKHS EVERYDAY AND DESTROYING THEIR RELIGON AND NOT LETTING SIKHS LIVETHER LIVES . WE NEED KHALISTAN EVEN SANT JARNAIL SINGH JI SAID IT ONCE HARMANDER SAHIB GETS ATTACKED THE FOUNDATION OF KHALISTAN WILL BE LAID . U WHITEWASHED SIKH U R A WAHITEWAS HOR HINDU WASH FOR EVEN SAYING THAT U DONT EVEN CARE N R LUAGHN GET OFF THIS SITE U FAKE <banned word filter activated> PHONY FFFF U AJEETSINGHPUNJABI U F K N TRAITOR
  21. over 4 million sikhs have been missing . is this what badal has done . so many new dieseases which could not even have been there if someone had not put them there (RSS HINDU TERROISTS) . is this what badal has done . the whole punjab n sikhs r unde slavery is this what badal has done . beant singh killed ppl openly but badal does it behind the curtains . badal is evil . badal puts who ever talks about khalistan and punjab freedom in jail or kills them . badal does not support khalistan or help the shaheed families . badal made a museum so sikhs think hes good and so he can use sikhs for political power . Sant Jarnail Singh Ji said when Harmander Sahib gets attacked we will see who is the traitor and longowal badal all ran for there lives even after they swore they wouldnt. longowal a few days before the attack was smiling ant laughing at Sant Jarnail Singh Ji because he knew that 84 was bout to happen ur messed genie . for even thinking that . R U OKAY . SO WHAT IF THEY DID A FEW GOOD THINGS IT STILL DOESNT BALANCE OUT THE BEADBI THAT HAPPEND IT DOSENT BALANCE OUT 84 ATTCK ON HARMANDER SHAIB IT DOENT BALANCE OUT 4 MILLION LIVES LOST TILL NOW IT DOESNT BALACE OUT THE RAPES COMMITED , LITTLE CHILDREN KILLED , GURUDUARAS BURNED DOWN . DO U THINK IT BALANCES IT OUT .THESE GUYS R EVIL N ONLY USE SIKHS FOR THEIR OWN PRUPOSES . HE PROBABLY HEPLED THOSE SIKH FAMILYS FOR POLITICAL POWER AND FAME N HOW TO SAY HE SUPPORTS SIKHS . LIAR HE JUST USED TO USE SIKHS .
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