jashb

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[ADMIN NOTE] Jashb, this is a formal warning. Harassing sat or any other individual(s) on the forum again will result you in being put into Quality Control. It doesn't matter what was said and what wasn't, all that matters is someone feels like they're being harassed. Consider this a formal and final warning.

Hello Guest! :biggrin2: No, I am a "FIRM MALE" :biggrin2: :biggrin2: :biggrin2:

Lolz... I didn't even notice it before Sukhi pointed it out That's a nice way of putting it bhaji. I like this. Nice one!

Sat; Calm down. Let me start by confirming that I have no personal connection to any of the groups, channels, or organisations being mentioned. My only possible connection could be that all I am very openly KHALISTANI loud and proud and as such I will support my brothers and sisters that do not actively seek to divide and weaken our freedom movement. Now, coming to the possibility that a rival event may be introduced in June 2014 to divide and weaken the Hyde Park march. It doesn't take an einstein to work out the kind of damage that would do to my cause, which is equivalent to the cause of millions of my Sikh brothers and sisters across the globe, that is for you, and the benefit of the doubt; FREEDOM from terrorist brahmanistani (Indian) rule. Our kaum is already divided enough, do we really need to divide up our freedom rallies too? Speaking to you as your brother, can I ask you to at the very least respectfully consider the implications of organising a rival event in June? As I have already stated, I have no personal connection with any of these groups, forget even know who they are, but to take an ardas in front of SSGGSJM to support one UNITED remembrance & freedom rally and then to almost immediately (just a week later) break that ardas . Throw your toys out of the pram. Say you don't care, you're going to press full steam ahead. To me that is unforgivable. Your post says that you didn't know any of this, well you know now. The conference was held at GNG Smethwick and the videos are up on youtube. You talk about acting like children. You tell me, do adults or children break their ardas? My post (#80) did indeed ask you to make up your mind whether you want one UNITED remembrance & freedom rally, or two, three, four, however many you like, because it clearly appeared and still does that you were promoting the cause of DIVISION by advertising this 31 Dec event in this thread. Now, since I don't know you, that is either innocently ignorant of the whole thread up to this point, although still irresponsible, or plain devious. You have pleaded innocence, but not without wholesale verbally abusing valued organisations and individual sewadaars of the kaum who have kept the freedom movement burning and alive for over 30 years, and, in the face of brutal Indian dominance, still refuse to give up. Now that's true Khalsa spirit. Why d' you post arrogant, cheap, snide diatribes with comments like "what the hell", "do as you please children", "you want to grow up and get off your high horse", "so called sikhs"...??? For all your big talk of being an "amritdhari" you haven't conquered your own krodh. It seems like a habit for you as you have been arguing and bickering in other threads too. You tell others to get off their high horse. From your style of language and tone, you need to take your own advice. I say it to you plain and clear brother, you come across write unpleasant like you've got a serious attitude problem and a very heavy chip on your shoulder. Now that's your problem to sort out, not mine. But I tell you what bro, I don't appreciate you calling me a kid. That too when I have said nothing to offend you, and only spoken to you as my brother with pyaar. WJKK WJKF!

Sat veeray, pehla poora thread parrhlo. Khaas karke, post #1 to leke, #32 takk; Fer mind banalo, ke do event honai chahide aa, ke ik! Main tan moorakh han, but ehna tan mainu vi pata hi aa, ke ekta sameh di mukh lorrh hai, eho jihe petty differences karke avda bakhra event bana dena, oh vi, jithe bass 2 1/2 bandhe hi ponchan, jis nu koi support hi na karda hove, te SSGGSJM de agge kiti hoi ardas nu torr ke! Eho jihe kartootan naal sangat nu confuse kardhe aa, te poore kaum nu moorakh banaundhe aa. Sanu eho jihe jaal 'ch nahin fasna chahida veeray!

Who's mocking Hindus here? Unless of course you are mistakenly inferring that Dayanand was a "Hindu". In which event, a Jain insisting that the leader of the arya samaj is in fact a "Hindu" is probably, albeit unwittingly, one of the greatest wind-ups ever. Kudos to you bro. In case you don't understand, watch the video that Mehtab Singh has posted.

Yeah, I knew what they meant too. But hey, that don't mean it's still not funny as hell!!! I agree dude, they need to take this issue seriously. I mean like, it's kinda embarrassing! You might have to explain this to children and everything

Apparently I was there as a baby in 1984 but obviously I don't remember anything of it. I remember very fondly the rallies that took place in later years when I was a young child. Starting at Hyde Park, finishing on the Embankment. There was then a gap of about 10 years - never heard about any rally then. No coaches left from the Gurdwara. Then 2004 happened. First advertisements of a panthic event ever heard on panjaab radio, akaash radio, amrit bani radio stations (there were no Sikh TV channels back then). Huge hype. Coaches went packed from the Gurdwara. I remember meeting an uncle in Hyde Park before the start of the march and asking him why doesn't the remembrance and freedom really happen every year? He was like "it does. This year is just the first time anyone's turned up!!!" 2004 was massive. 2014 will be even bigger. I never understood the meaning of the marches when I was a child, but as a 20-year old I understood very well. Slowly, my whole view of India and the terrorist Indian Flag totally turned on its head. No longer was it a tool to wind up pakistanis. Now I saw it, minus Indian propaganda, for what it was; a symbol of Oppression. The zaalim taranga. I would never support tyrannical Indian rule ever again. I would only support the Khalsa. RAJ KARAYGA KHALSA!

^^^100%!!! Our nishana is still azaad halemi khalsa raj KHALISTAN. I cannot ever deny that while there is even the slightest semblance of breath in my body. UK veere, regarding the state of affairs 29 years on from the bloody assault on our Quom in 1984. We do not live under delusions of grandeur. India's genocide of 300,000+ Sikhs (mostly young, unmarried, teenage to 20's males) in the early 1990's that physically brutally liquidated our freedom movement, which was on the brink of success ( Takht - as per declaration of Shaheed Baba Gurbachan Singh Ji Manochahal - Takht ya Taboot ), by killing off the current and future youth of our quom, was incredibly painful. We won the battles but lost the war. We didn't resort to matching the enemy's dirty tactics. The hurt continues with this ongoing silent genocide via a seemingly endless inflow of drugs, alcohol, and the quom killing itself through its daughters. But there is a distinct difference between losing and admitting defeat i.e. giving up. We have never admitted defeat, and we are not about to give up anytime soon. Now, as for the future; We may well lose many of the battles to come. But of one thing, Guru-Paatshah has made me absolutely nischat sure; WE WILL WIN THE WAR.

^^^ This is an amazing post. Thank you bro.

I noticed the painting of Dayanand in the back, that's why I was keen to find an arya samaji viewpoint. The word's foreign origin and negative meaning has been discussed on RSS forums too. What I find awesome is the title of the book where the quote in post #39 is taken from: Maharishi Shri Dayanand Saraswati Aur Unka Kaam , edited by Lala Lajpat Rai, published in Lahore, 1898 That is; "Maharishi Shri Dayanand Saraswati Aur Unka Kaam". Kaam. As in lust. Seems to be part if his legend. He must have done a lot of kaam :lol2:

All great points veere but not going to happen until we kick out the Badal clan - Dukhbir's father-in-law is Satyajit Majithia - the man that controls the alcohol supply for much of north india! Found this about the Badal and Majithia clans; http://www.sikharchives.com/?p=15453 The Dal Khalsa United Kingdom : Traitors Gate, The History Of The Badal Ruling Family The Badal Ruling Family History of the traitorous Badal ruling family along with mistakes made by Maharajah Ranjit Singh in military policy. Also a discussion of the history of his wifes family the historic Majithia family and its history in the betrayal of Maharajah Ranjit Singh and the Sikh Misls. The hand of the Majithia family in the deliberate destruction of the Sikh Misls and the attack by the family on Guru Gobind Singhs command of Tyaar-e-tyaar cumination of their efforts in the destruction of the Tyaar-e-Tyaar command of Guru Gobind Singh. There is a discussion of the collaboration of the Majithia family with the English and the subsequent destruction of the Sikh Panth. The blood relationship of Badal and the heretica Radho Soami Cult. The connection between some descendants of the Hil Rajahs (who fought against Guru Gobind Singh) and the Badal Family. Also discussed are bloodlines, eugenics DNA and the on-going inter-marriages between The Patiala Ruling Family, the Majithia Family (Harsimran Kaurs Family) and Badalss Family (Dhillon). Not mentioned in this video presentation is the fact that The Chandigarh Tribune was started by a prominent member of the Majithia Family ( Dyal Singh Majithia?). At the time of the partition of India, he married a Muslim woman, converted to Islam and went to Pakistan. The marriage may have been prompted by the desire to keep intact the large landholdings of the Majitha family which were in Pakistan after the partition. These land holdings (jagirs) were bestowed by Maharajah Ranjit Singh on the Majitha family. The Chandigarh Tribune was later taken over by Hindu Brahmins who created a trust to ensure that the control of the newspaper remained in their hands into perpetuity. later taken over by Hindu Brahmins who created a trust to ensure that the control of the newspaper remained in their hands into perpetuity. In the video below, notice the wife of Badal worshipping the <banned word filter activated> of the Hindu god Shiva in front of her children. This worship is also performed by the Yogi Bhajan RSS Sikh cult. Also notice Badal wearing the mark of a high caste Hindu inside the Sikh Darbar Sahib

And this... http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Hindu Hindu, the word Apparently, the word "Hindu" is not present in Vedas, Puranas, Ramayana and Mahabharta. It appears that this name was given to the indigenous people of India by the Muslim invaders. They referred to the people living near the Sindhu River, as Hindus and they consider them as slaves subservient and blind. The name given to the religion which preceded the modern term "Hindu" was "Sanatan" religion and before that it was known as "Ad-Dharm". Hindu is not a Sanskrit term. Furthermore, a Persian dictionary titled Lughet-e-Kishwari, published in Lucknow in 1964, gives the meaning of the word Hindu as chor [thief] dakoo [dacoit], raahzan [waylayer], and ghulam [slave]. In another dictionary, Urdu-Feroze-ul-Laghat (Part One, p. 615) the Persian meaning of the word Hindu is further described as barda (obedient servant) sia faam (black color) and kaalaa (black). So these are all derogatory expressions for the translation of the term hindu in the Persian label of the people of India. Other observations It is said that, Moreover, it is correct that this name [Hindu] has been given to the original Aryan race of the region by Muslim invaders to humiliate them. In Persian, says our author, the word means slave, and according to Islam, all those who did not embrace Islam were termed as slaves. (Maharishi Shri Dayanand Saraswati Aur Unka Kaam, edited by Lala Lajpat Rai, published in Lahore, 1898, in the Introduction)

Found this: http://savebuddhist.blogspot.com/2008/03/what-is-meaning-of-word-hindu.html?m=1 What is meaning of Word "Hindu"? "The word 'hindu' is a non-Indian word, it's origin is Persian/Arabic. It's original meaning is 'dog,' 'low life' or 'slave'." "The word 'Hindu' is not found in any Hindu religious text or any other ancient writing. People who lived on the western side of Hindu Kush (killers of Hindus) mountains gave this name to the natives of India. The word Hindu means black, slave, robber, thief and a waylayer."

With all due respect brother - I strongly disagree. Such a move would rightly be seen by the many as the organisers turning their back on the freedom movement. It would quite likely alienate the 50,000+ that already attend the freedom rally ever year, including myself. We openly want freedom from a false, murderous, genocidal oppressive state - we have nothing to hide, and nothing to gain from denying that. Numbers are going up every year already. There was talk of 80,000+ attending last year. Even if renaming the rally pulled in 1m+, I still wouldn't support such a move. The end does not justify the means

LOL. Shaastar, reading your comments cracks me up. You remind me of folk from hackney sidez (e5, e8, e9) Endorsed. Certified.

It's not strange at all bhaji. Ask a 1% minority Sikh jat, " 'ere mate, you're a jatt , so what d' you know about jaats ". He'll most probably look at you like; "You wot? How am I supposed to know!" In fact, only Sikhs living in Haryana itself would ever have come across Hindu jaats in real life, or most probably even know that such exotic concoctions exist. Take my father's example; he recalls meeting a Hindu with the same gotra while at university in Chandigarh and being absolutely gobsmacked that a person of his own clan could be a Hindu!!! In Panjaab, there are next to no Hindus of this clan whatsoever, but a large proportion of Malwa jats belong to this clan, especially in dist. Patiala. Yet across the state border, in Haryana, there are plenty of Hindu jaats from this clan. Even met a few (visa overstayers) in London. Now, go one step further. Ask the same 1% minority Sikh jat, " 'ere mate, you're a jatt Sikh , so what d' you know about jatt muslims ". Varying reactions here. Especially if the said Sikh jat was brought up listening to silly songs like "putt jattan de". Ranging from shock, disbelief, sorrow right up to accusations of blasphemy! Again, only Sikhs who would have come from Pakistan would know that there is such a thing as a muslim jatt. Again, take my father's example; he met a Pakistani muslim "virk" in London. He asked him how long his family had been muslims because it's obvious the only jatts left in pakistan would have been those Sikhs left high and dry during partition who converted at the point of the sword in 1947! But Pakistani virk was like "as far back as anyone in the family knows". Same goes for cheema, chatha, even sandhu and gill. Whereas Panjaabi Sikh virk here in London was like "no such thing as jatts in pakistan mate; the only Panjaabis there are the ones that converted by force in 1947!!!" (err... no.) If you'd have told me ten years back that there's a film maker in pakistan with my father's gotra I dunno what I would have said! Truth is, we, just like pakistani panjaabis, live in our own bubble, that's why we 1% minority Sikh jats don't know that jatts of other regions and religions exist, so it's no surprise that Shaikhs don't know their proverbial "Khawaja"s from their "Khashatri"s .

Once you start justifying what you know is clearly wrong, you create for yourself a very slippery slope, down which you begin to slide before you reach previously unthinkable depths. Every successive evil action is worse than the last since anything can be justified under the above mindset. This is the whole trouble with the Indian brahmanistani thought system. On the other hand; The Gurus have taught us that the end does not justify the means. This, alone, is proof for me enough that we, and the indian brah-maniacal thought process that preaches "winning at all costs" are on opposing ends of the system. Jas Singh Khalsa veere, tussan ne ta akhaan hi meriyan khol liya! You see, in the west, we are brought up outside of this brahmanistani system. It is near enough impossible for us to understand the criminal brahmanistani mentality as we have never had any exposure to these brahmin texts. Only those who have read them, I.e. those born on India, would know. Compared to "holy" texts like this, the quran is an exquisite treatise on peace making, whispering sweet nothings and hugging each other. LOLLL... Bilqul sach! It's because it's been drilled into the fabric of the subcontinent for so long that even the brahmins can't invent a new name for themselves. Perhaps they sincerely believe that if you tell a lie enough times, everyone starts to believe it. This is, after all, more or less the mission statement of the Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh. Maybe, In the future, they'll go to the arabs and ask them to "please delete the letter 'S' from your alphabet so we can support our crumbling foundation of lies"? LOL "Hindu" means low-level petty thief in arabic. "Lala" means slave. Why not explain away "Lala" under the above reasoning too? Oh, they can't? Ahhh. No fair! LOL

LOLLLLLLLLLLLL I'm gonna use this one

Sach veere, sach. "Illegal" deya lagdeya!!! Lol. How dare he?? Sangatan nu matt dindah

Now I was as eager as the next Joe Bloggs to find out who is this truthful, honourable fella, kinda like a modern day Ram Jethmalani, Lt Gen S.K. Sinha, Nawab of Malerkotla. So I was fairly disappointed that the name of this supposedly nameless Sikh BJP leader gets mentioned nowhere in the article. Daily pehredar deems it sufficient to convince the masses by referring to the said leader as "Sikh BJP". It also clearly thinks it unnecessary to provide any reason or excuse why the identity of "Sikh BJP" is hidden, perhaps because it believes the sikh sangatan are gullible enough to gobble it up anyways. Come on boys. As sad as the content is, if you're going to publish the story, at least do one of the above!

Should Jews be proud of being from Nazi Germany? Oh, you have? Well blow me, I'd never have guessed. You got a pen and paper???. Or d'you want a one-liner??? Tell you what, how about one word. 1984

LOL. Whatever you say dude.