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Being Shaheed IS being in Chardi Kala!! Baba Takhur SIngh Ji was told by Sant Ji's brother that he didn't recognise the body, but it was Sant ji's. They did an Ardas that if the army enters, they will die fighting. Let the matter rest. 'Taksali' We can all believe what we want but lets get the facts straight on what you just said.. The bachan refers to Sant Jee being chardi kala (as in physically alive), baba jee confirms this in a video on youtube, and in another video made by singhs at sedgley st g,wara Capt Harcharan Singh was forced under duress to lie and identify the body as being Sant Jee's and openly admitted this after to Baba Jee and the singhs. Sant Jee was given bachan by 5 singhs to leave darbar sahib and is waiting for Guru Sahibs aagiya. A Brahmgiani Mahapursh will stay in Guru Sahibs hukam no matter what happens. You can confirm all this by asking Taksali singhs who had sangat of Baba jee. Gir basuḏẖā jal pavan jā▫igo ik sāḏẖ bacẖan atlāḏẖā. ||1|| The mountains, the earth, the water and the air shall pass away. Only the Word of the Holy Saint shall endure. ||1|| 1204

more like a couple of years

If we go by what you say then that means for every 1 legally settled 'Sikh', there is 1 who is illegal..? Anyone who lives in the uk can tell you that illegal immigrants form a small minority within the community. As for people who live legally in the uk, but who have not claimed citizenship, can still take part in the census. Here is a definition of a census directly from the national stats website. "A census is a count of all people and households in the country. It provides population statistics from a national to neighbourhood level for government, local authorities, business and communities." http://www.ons.gov.uk/census/index.html note it doesn't refer to only british citizens. The bbc links you provided are only news reports which aren't backed up by factual evidence. But as shastr said, in reality there are only a few sikhs in the world

the 2001 census put the number of sikhs in the uk as 330,000. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1530681/Diversity-index-reveals-Britains-ethnic-mix.html today the figure is probably around 350,000, the 2011 census will confirm exact numbers. the '750,000-800,000 sikhs in uk' or '1 million sikhs in europe' as claimed by some is seriously exaggerated!

Gurmeil Singhs employment tribunal is due to last for another 2 weeks and he needs the SUPPORT of the Sikh community. Please take some time out and attend the hearing at: Alexandra House Parsonage Manchester M3 2JA Monday to Fridays 9am-5pm PLEASE ATTEND AND SPREAD THE WORD!! "...British people are highly indebted and obliged to Sikhs for a long time. I know that within this century we needed their help twice and they did help us very well. As a result of their timely help, we are today able to live with honour, dignity, and independence. In the war, they fought and died for us, wearing the turbans. At that time we were not adamant that they should wear safety helmets because we knew that they are not going to wear them anyways and we would be deprived of their help. At that time due to our miserable and poor situation, we did not force it on them to wear safety helmets, why should we force it now? Rather, we should now respect their traditions and by granting this legitimate concession, win their applaud." Winston Churchill

Doing kamaayie is a must but at the same time Sikhs are not pacifists. 'aapan huthi aapna aape hi kaaj svaariyeh' The problem is that most of our community don't follow Sikhi, so there is nothing to unite them. In fact you will get more kids attending sessions and daytimer gigs than a youth programme at the gurdwara. So punjabi kids at schools and colleges are easy targets. The solution is for the youth there to join the many local martial arts groups,start getting into the right sangat and learning about Sikhi. "Until we are united, until we stand under the saffron Nishaan Sahib (Sikh religious flag), until we have unflinching faith in Siri Guru Granth Sahib, Khalsa Ji, we shall certainly get beatings." Sant Giani Jarnail Singh Ji Bhindranwale

there were also other kautaks including some campers who saw eagles flying around darbar sahib and others who heard chemtay (musical instruments) in the dorm corridors between the hours of 12-2am

Nice of Jassa to post pics of the self appointed 'jathedar' Dhumma. The Taksal has been started by Guru Gobind Singh Jee Maharaj and has been led by an unbroken lineage of Brahmgiani Maharapursh, Baba Harnam Singh Jee doesn't fall into that equation Real Mukhi is Sant Gyani Jarnail Singh Jee Khalsa Bhindranwale! Before people start questioning ''where are they then,'' they will return to lead the panth at the right time when Guru Sahib gives aagiyaa.

from last years camp http://www.saintsoldiersounds.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=61

from http://thelangarhall.com/archives/4006#comments For diasporic Sikhs, it seems routine and almost expected to wake up to news about an incident where a Sikh was banned access to an event because of his or her kirpan. Many times, we blame this on the ignorance of law enforcement, who often have never heard of a kirpan. We tell ourselves, Dont worry, we just have to teach them and theyll understand. However, when Kirpan wearing patrons at a Gurdas Mann concert are barred entry, then we must stop for pause. When a kirpan wearing citizen is blocked access from exercising their civil liberties, we as a community go into uproar mode. We file lawsuits, organize protests, and launch mass public marketing campaigns in order to exercise what we believe to an unalienable right and an articulation of our personal sovereignty. When a Bollywood movie comes out with a Sikh hero sans beard, our institutional bodies outrun and out-leap each other to be the first to cry foul. When a Baba in a Dera dresses up as Guru Gobind Singh Ji, we bring the state of Punjab to a halt. However, at the point where cultural icon and repository Gurdas Mann, goes so far as to write No Kirpans or Sharp Objects Allowed on tickets being sold at a VAISAKHI show in England, then what do we do? We let him carry forward and WE outrun and out-leap each other so we can be first in line at his next concert. Now when his concert bans an entity which is legally allowed in the public spaces of Canada, then what do we do? Do we ignore and slowly sweep this incident under the rug, like so many of our cultural problems? Or, do we stop and say, Hey, standing next to K.P.S Gill and lambasting Sikh terrorism is not ok; banning kirpans in UK is not appreciated; and throwing out concertgoers in Alberta, is simply no longer going to work.

"This movement cannot be suppressed. So much blood has been spilt for it that no bargaining can be done now. There are only two paths for us; Thakht (Throne) or Thakata (Gallows).... The ardas done at Akal Takht Sahib, and the Declaration of Khalistan are our promises before Guru Sahib and we will solemnly keep them. The Sikh Sangat should be assured that the Khalsa will be victorious." Baba Manochal Jee RAAJ KAREGA KHALSA

True, £160 can be used for better purposes but that argument can be used to apply to amounts of money in almost all contexts. The kirpan is made from good quality metal which is stronger than kirpans from India, therefore it's less likely to corrode or break easily. The amount might seem steep but is good value for money given the materials used and the design/make of this kirpan. Personally speaking, it's an ideal investment on a shaster you will wear 24/7.

Gur Ki Ninda Sune Na Kaan These moorakhs hiding behind a screen are doubting the status of Guru Granth Sahib Jee on a 'sikh forum.' There is nothing wrong with people asking questions and constructive discussion but there is a line to be drawn between that and cults pushing their own agendas. If these moorakhs want to debate, then they should climb out of their holes and do so in public.

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its hould be in sukhmani sahib or japji sahib katha, a Bhramgiani can manifest themselves around 100 times at any one time whereas there is no limit to Satguru its should be in sukhmani sahib or japji sahib katha, a Bhramgiani can manifest themselves around 100 times at any one time whereas there is no limit to Satguru

Veer Ji/ Bhenji (?) you forgot to add how much Naam Simran you do. Naam Abhyiaas is the most highest and supreme rehat everyhing else is secondary. Currently I only do 1 hour of Naam Abhyiaas for Amrit Vela :sad: But with Guru Jis beant Kirpa I hope to extend it to 2.5 hours a day. Since its summer and I have more free time If set a firm schedule rite now I think it would be more easier to maintain when my schedule becomes more busier. Personally speaking, naam simran is a must (especially at amrit vela) but in no ways is gurbani secondary to this. There are ck Gursikhs that do japji sahib, sukhmani sahib abhiyaas whilst others do mool mantar abhiyaas etc. That doesn't go to say that they are getting less phal.

This has probably been posted before, bhul chuk maaf for any repeat posts Advice on Bhagti From Guru Angad Dev Jee Taken from Kudrati Noor by Pr. Satbir Singh Translated by Admin www.tapoban.org Guru Angad Dev jee spoke very little. He would come to Sangat and give advice or explain bani and succinctly express Gurmat in short saloks. On Wealth Guru Sahib used to say that one who has recognised that the world is only temporary will not spend all his effort on gathering wealth. ਜਿਨੀ ਚਲਣੁ ਜਾਣਿਆ ਸੇ ਕਿਉ ਕਰਹਿ ਵਿਥਾਰ ॥ जिनी चलणु जाणिआ से किउ करहि विथार ॥ Jinī cẖalaṇ jāṇi▫ā se ki▫o karahi vithār. They know that they will have to depart, so why do they make such ostentatious displays? ਚਲਣ ਸਾਰ ਨ ਜਾਣਨੀ ਕਾਜ ਸਵਾਰਣਹਾਰ ॥੧॥ चलण सार न जाणनी काज सवारणहार ॥१॥ Cẖalaṇ sār na jāṇnī kāj savāraṇhār. ||1|| Those who do not know that they will have to depart, continue to arrange their affairs. ||1|| Ang 787 Guru Sahib told his Sikhs that a truly successful person was not one with the most wealth. If they can see that a human comes with nothing and leaves with nothing, why would they spend all their time on collecting money? Such money-hungry people are driven by worldly praise and seek wealth to get it. Guru Sahib told his Sikhs to forget all worldly praise and greatness. ਨਾਨਕ ਦੁਨੀਆ ਕੀਆਂ ਵਡਿਆਈਆਂ ਅਗੀ ਸੇਤੀ ਜਾਲਿ ॥ नानक दुनीआ कीआं वडिआईआं अगी सेती जालि ॥ Nānak ḏunī▫ā kī▫āʼn vadi▫ā▫ī▫āʼn agī seṯī jāl. O Nanak, burn worldly greatness and glory in the fire. ਏਨੀ ਜਲੀਈਂ ਨਾਮੁ ਵਿਸਾਰਿਆ ਇਕ ਨ ਚਲੀਆ ਨਾਲਿ ॥੨॥ एनी जलीईं नामु विसारिआ इक न चलीआ नालि ॥२॥ Ėnī jalī▫īʼn nām visāri▫ā ik na cẖalī▫ā nāl. ||2|| These burnt offerings have caused mortals to forget the Naam, the Name of the Lord. Not even one of them will go along with you in the end. ||2|| Ang 1290 Guru Sahib used to tell the Sangat not to be influenced by the rich as well. To please them, it is not necessary to humble or lower yourself. Doing this increases fear and powerlessness. Vahiguru showers his blessings on all. The rich and powerful are also just ordinary humans. When the call of death comes, their wealth will not help them stay here or extend their life. ਜਿਨ੍ਹ੍ਹਾ ਚੀਰੀ ਚਲਣਾ ਹਥਿ ਤਿਨ੍ਹ੍ਹਾ ਕਿਛੁ ਨਾਹਿ ॥ जिन्हा चीरी चलणा हथि तिन्हा किछु नाहि ॥ Jinĥā cẖīrī cẖalṇā hath ṯinĥā kicẖẖ nāhi. By His Decree, we walk; nothing rests in our hands. ਸਾਹਿਬ ਕਾ ਫੁਰਮਾਣੁ ਹੋਇ ਉਠੀ ਕਰਲੈ ਪਾਹਿ ॥ साहिब का फुरमाणु होइ उठी करलै पाहि ॥ Sāhib kā furmāṇ ho▫e uṯẖī karlai pāhi. When the Order comes from our Lord and Master, all must rise up and take to the road. Ang 1239 Work is important but when doing this, it is important to not let ego enter the mind. It is important to do simran and sing shabads when working. With simran, the individual becomes so calm and stable that no worldly problem can shake him. There is no greater education than being immersed in Naam. Leaving this and looking towards any other support or sustenance brings only pain. Those who mock the path of Bhagti are showing their own ignorance and idiocy. Helping Others a Great Virtue Guru Angad Dev jee used to say that helping others is a great virtue. There are three ways this can be done: 1) Whatever wealth or possessions you have should be shared with others. Do not waste what you have on pointless things like showing off to others. Share what you have with the poor and those engaged in Bhagti. 2) It is also a virtue to use your body to help others. Serving others prevents ego. Helping others with humility and sweetness. 3) To use the tongue to give knowledge and encouragement about the Guru and Naam is the third important way of helping others. Guru Angad Dev Jee's Advice on Bhagti Guru Angad Dev jee explained that at first when one begins bhagti, it may be very difficult because it feels as if the relationship is very one-sided. We may not feel the love of Vahiguru. During this stage, there are nine things one should do: 1) Listen to Bani with faith 2) Do kirtan onesself 3) Not to waste time without naam. Do simran with every breath. Do not spend time on fruitless activity. 4) Put one’s consciousness at the feet of the Guru. Serve the Sangat with dedication 5) Have a giving attitude and forsake the desire to take and seize. Give what you have and feel good about it. Desire Good for others. 6) Go to the Dharamshala (Gurdwara) to listen and also to do humble seva. 7) Consider yourself to be a slave of Vahiguru. Consider everything you have as his and his gift to you. 8) Know Vahiguru to be your friend. Believe that your friend will never want to harm you. Whatever He does will be for your benefit. 9) Submit your everything to Vahiguru. Even make yourself a sacrifice and have no attachment to anything. When these become a part of your life, you will feel Divine Love. Everything will seem like it is bloom. You will fee waves of love. You will be in the world but rise above it like the lotus. The Bhagats face will glow red by drinking the nectar and will feel Vahiguru’s blessings constantly fall to him. Vaheguru himself will complete the Bhagats tasks so that he is not distracted from the true goal.

Bachan from a Brahmgiani Mahapursh "Until we are united, until we stand under the saffron Nishaan Sahib (Sikh religious flag), until we have unflinching faith in Siri Guru Granth Sahib, Khalsa Ji, we shall certainly get beatings." Sant Giani Jarnail Singh Ji Bhindranwale

sabhe icha pooriyaan, ja paya agam apaara has anyone got any live recorded/commercial recordings of this shabad. n.b can't be bhai gurkirt singhs version

**edited** Lets look at the evidence Sant jee along with other 'leaders' such as longowal, tohra were leading the Dharam Yudh Morcha from the complex,, an agitation for the implementation of the Anandpur Sahib Resolution. In Sikhi terms it is perfectly acceptable for the panth to lead any sort of struggle from Sri Akal Takht Sahib and the wider complex. The government chose to attack as a first resort, and could have very easily negotiated a different outcome. For instance Harkrishan Singh Surjeet of CPI(M) noted that in a period of 6 months there were 3 agreements (between the Gov't and Sikhs)on the enactment of the Anandpur Sahib Resolution and on all these occasions Indira Ghandi pulled out. This is because she had something else in mind. SK Sinha (Retired Indian Army General): “The Army Action was not the ‘last resort’ as Prime Minister Indira Gandhi would have us to believe… It had been in her mind for more than 18 months… Shortly after the Akali agitation of 1982, the Army began rehearsals of a commando raid near Chakrata Contonment in the Doon Valley, where a complete replica of the Golden Temple complex had been built… Another training involving Aviation Research Centre Commandos was given in the Sarsawa area and Yamuna bed in helicopters converted into gunships.” Lt. Gen. SK Sinha, Spokesman, 16th July 1984 “The initial crime was celebrated and indeed had been planned a year before hand.. The army went into Darbar Sahib not to eliminate a political figure or a political movement but to suppress a culture of people, to attack their heart, to strike a blow at their spirit and self confidence.... The army which had suffered a heavy toll in the 3 days of battle went berserk and killed every Sikh man, women and child who could be found inside the temple complex. They were hauled out of the rooms, brought to corridors on the circumference of the temple and with their hands tied behind their backs, were shot in cold blood." Pettigrew, Joyce. "The Sikhs of the Panjab: Unheard Voices of the State and Guirella Violence" (1995), p. 8. http://manvirsingh.blogspot.com/ On a side note - any vintage weapons the singhs had were licensed by the government and were allowed into the complex re first hukamnama from Sri Akal Takht by Guru Hargobind Sahib, asking Sikhs to donate and bear arms and Guru Gobind Singhs injunction for Sikhs to be shasterdhari. This is to counter the ignorant assumption that people sometimes make....ie 'they took guns into a gurdwara.' The stockpiles of machine guns, rocket launchers, grenades were bought in by the army after the attack, which they then falsely claimed were recovered from the singhs. Furthermore the fortifications involved using sandbags from december 1983, when the singhs found out that the gov't was planning to attack, something which had been drawn up many months in advance. On 1st June 1984 during the afternoon Sant jee held a public meeting above one of the buildings (think it was the langar hall). By this time sharpshooters had taken up positions on nearby buildings. If they were really after Sant Jee and the so called extremists (as was claimed by the Gov't and media) then they could have fired at them from this position, instead they fired up to 34 rounds at Sri Hermandir Sahib for no reason. The Gov't clearly wanted to inflict damage on the panth The above are just some points which counter the bakwas out there

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” Joseph Goebbels, Propaganda Minister, Nazi Germany

Does anyone know where i can download the following keertan track. I think its done by Bibi Indermohan Kaur (uk)

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6th June 1984 Bhan Singh - "I was arrested along with Sant Longowal and Jathedar Gurcharan Singh Tohra early morning on the 6th. We were encircled by the Army people, throughout the day from 4 a.m. till 5 p.m. when Sant Longowal and Jathedar Tohra were taken to the Army Camp, but I along with many others was kept inside the compound of Guru Ram Das Serai. We were taken away to the Army Camp at about 9.30 p.m." Even on this point of arrest of Longowal and Tohra, the White Paper has a totally different version - "At 1.00 a.m. on June 6, Sant Harchand Singh Longowal and Shri G.S. Tohra surrendered near Guru Nanak Niwas with about 350 people. The terrorist opened fire at them and also lobbed hand grenades to prevent surrender. As a result, 70 people were killed including 30 women and children." Even Longowal is on record that he and Tohra were arrested at 5 a.m. from Guru Nanak Niwas (where the S.G.P.C. Office is now located) and kept there in Army custody the whole day. Neither he nor Bhan Singh talk about surrendering to the Army nor do they refer to the killing of 70 people including 30 women and children, by "terrorists" at the time of their surrender. Should we believe Bhan Singh (and Longowal) or would we blindly accept the White Paper's Version? On the morning of June 6, as the girl student opened the door of their small room and "came out to fetch water, what did I see but piles of dead bodies, all stacked one over the other. At first I instinctively felt that I wouldn't manage to go out . All I could see was a ceaseless mount of dead bodies. It seemed that all the persons who were staying in the Parikrama, not one of them had survived... The Army said later that they did not go inside the Golden Temple wearing boots. But I have seen some of the dead bodies of the Army men in uniform - they were wearing boots and belts." The White Paper is contradicted once more. The girl student's narration continues. It is an amazing and astonishing account of how she accidentally met Bhai Amrik Singh, Prsident of the A.I.S.S.F. and Bhindranwale's close associate. She had not met him before but once he told her his name, she recognized him at once because his pictures had come out in the papers. How Amrik Singh gave her some water in a bucket which she gave to her relatives and acquaintances, but she could not bring herself to drinking it because it was red, mixed with blood. How Bhai Amrik Singh sent her a message urging her to leave the Temple Complex at once with her group in order to escape being dishonoured or being shot dead as 'terrorists' by the Army personnel, and also to survive to tell the true story of what happen ed inside the Golden Temple to the world outside. She recounts in breathtaking detail how she picked up the courage to first come out of the Complex and then bring out her relatives and acquaintances. To quote her own words - "So I decided to try to find the way out. There was a man lying dead. I had to place my foot on him. My foot touched sometimes somebody's had, sometimes somebody's body. I had to move in this fashion. There is a staircase next to the Nishan Saheb (outside teh Akal Takht) and next to it there was an iron gate, which had got twisted because of the shelling. I pulled the gate and came out, there was nobody. The place was deserted. The doors of the houses were shut and locked from outside. I was in a haze. For I saw the locks and yet I kept shouting for shelter. Then I came to my senses, realizing that the inhabitants had locked their houses and gone away. Then I broke the mud patch in the wall of a house and entered it. One o f the doors of this house opened out into the Golden Temple. I went back to the temple through this door. I found a wounded man who relayed my message to my grandmother through other wounded persons, that I had managed to come outside, she should also come out. By then the room in the Akal Takht building, where I had taken shelter with my grandmother was already in flames. The 20-25 people in that room came out with much difficulty and reached the place where I was. The house had been sprayed with shells and bullets and there were gaping holes in the walls. We found a water tank in that house which had escaped destruction, unlike the water tank in the Golden Temple complex. First we all drank water from that tank. We met an injured man who had also taken shelter in that house. He asked us to go with him to his house. We accompanied him. He made us change all our blood-soaked clothes; some we washed clean." The narrations of Bhan Singh, Harcharan Singh Ragis, Giani Puran Singh and the girl student tear apart the White Paper that the Army had been instructed 'to treat all apprehended persons with dignity and consideration', and also that 'no women and children were killed in the action by the troops.' Bhan Singh remembers- "On the 6th morning when hundreds of people were killed or wounded, everywhere there were cries of those people who were wounded and injured but there was no provisions for their dressings and there were no Red Cross people within the complex... Many young people aged between 18 and 22 years were killed and so were some ladies. A lady carrying a child of only a few months saw her husband lying before her. The child was also killed on account of the firing. It was a very touching scene when she placed the dead body of the child alongside her husband's body. Many people were crying for drinking water, but they were not provided any. Some had to take water out of the drains where dead bodies were lying and the water was red with blood. The way the injured were quenching their thirst was an awful sight which could not be tolerated. The Army people were there, moving about mercilessly without showing any sign of sympathy with those injured or wounded. Those who were under arrest were not provided any facility of water or food or any other thing of that sort. The clothes of those who were arrested were removed and they were only left with shorts-their turbans, shirts, etc. were all removed and heaped together. Such a brute treatment was given to them, as if they were aliens and not the citizens of the country to which the forces belonged." Harcharan Singh Ragi similarly recounts- "My quarters are on the first floor above the information office and it was unsafe, with the firing going on endlessly, to stay there. Four members of the family of Narinder Pal Singh, the Information Officer who also lived on the same floor as us and we five took shelter in the basement of the Information office building. On the 6th of June, between 12 noon and 5 p.m., the Army announced that people should come out. This was the first announcement given since the Army operations began. All of us in the basement volunteered arrest and the Information Officer and myself showed our identity cards as employees of the S.G.P.C. As we were coming out, we saw that hundreds of people were being shot down as they ca me out. We saw many women being shot dead by the commanders. I also would have been, but for my little girl, Jaswinder Pal Kaur (Anju), rushing to the Army Commander and begging to save her father's life." And now let us listen to the girl student once more- "On June 6 at o'clock in the evening, they announced a relaxation in the curfew for one hour. Meanwhile, we went through some devious lanes and managed to take shelter in a house which was some distance form the Golden Temple. The Army people announced that everyone should come out. So we came out." "There were about 27-28 persons with us, 5 of them ladies, some elderly men, the rest young boys. The Army made all of us stand in queue. There were 13 boys out of which three I claimed to be my brothers. I did not know them from before. I merely wanted to save them. I don't know why, perhaps because they thought the 3 boys were part of our family but the Army released these three boys. They went away. Out of the remaining male youths, they picked out four and took off their turbans with which they tied their hands behind their backs. Then the Army men beat these 4 Sikh boys with the butts of their rifles till they fell on the ground and started bleeding. They kept telling the boys all along, "you are terrorists. You were coming from inside. You were taking part in the action. You will be shot." These boys were shot dead right in front of me. They looked completely innocent. Neither they seemed to know how to use a rifle, nor did they seem to know the meaning of 'terrorism'. They were shot before my eyes. Their age was between 18 and 20 years. I did not know who they were - circumstances had brought us together by chance. Whenever I recollect that scene, I seem to lose my bearings. "Then they (the Army people) surrounded me and started questioning me. I told my grandmother not to speak a word to them as they were speaking only with bullets. I asked them whether they had come to protect us or to finish us. I said my grandfather was a colonel in the Army... The Army man... in charge then asked his colleagues to leave me and my family members. He told me to go away quickly. And so we were saved." Giani Puran Singh narrates- "At 4:30 a.m. on June 6, Guru Granth Sahib was brought down. PRAKASH done and the Hukumnama taken, the kirtan of Asa-di-vaar started. This kirtan was not done by the appointed Ragi Jatha (Hymn singers) but by members of Bhai Randhir Singh Jatha, one member of which Avtar Singh of Parowal was later martyred inside the Darbar Sahib. The official Jatha of Bhai Amrik Singh had been martyred at the Darshani Deori the previous day. Bhai Avtar Singh was hit by a bullet which tore through the southern door, one of which is still embedded in the Guru Granth Sahib which is there since Maharaja Ranjit Singh's time. Time passed and at 4:00p.m. on June 6, some poisonous gas was spread and the Akal Takht captured, if not for this gas the forces could not have been able to gain the Akal Takht. At 4:30 the commandant, Brar spoke from a speaker on the Sourhtern Deori that all living people should surrender. All those who had come face to face with the forces had been eliminated. We (I and Gyani Mohan Singh) asked all the 22 within the Darbar Sahib to surrender and told the commanding officer that two priests had stayed behind and if need be, he could send his men for them. He did not agree with them and called aloud on the speaker that we should come out with raised hands. We decided against this because if we were shot on the way it would merely be a waste. We were in the Darbar Sahib till 7:30 when two soldiers and a sewadar were sent to fetch us. While on our way out I stopped to pour a handful of water in the mouth of the wounded member of the Jatha, who asked us to send for help. I promised to do so provided I remained alive. Gen. Brar, meanwhile announced over the loudspeaker that nobody should fire upon us. The moment I stepped out of the Darshani Deori, I saw the Akal Takht ruined and the rubble was spread all around. Hundreds of corpses were lying scattered. We were wished by Gen Brar who told that he too was a Sikh. He then enquired as to what did we propose to do. We told him that we wanted to go to the urinal and then be allowed to go to our residences. He allowed us to go to the urinal and then we were questioned of the whereabouts of Sant Ji and were told that he would not be harmed. We told them that they knew better as they were in command. We were questioned, whether any machine-gunnists were operating from Darbar Sahib to which we said that they were welcome to inspect the premises themselves. Five persons accompanied us to the Hari Mandir, one Sikh officer and 3-4 other s. When we started the Sikh officer insisted that we lead because if firing started from within, we would face them, moreover we would be shot if someone shot from within. When we reached the Harimadir, a search was carried out by them, picking and searching below every carpet but no sign of firing was traced. Meanwhile the wounded member left behind had passed away. His body was placed in a white sheet, brought out and placed along with various others lying outside." According to the A.I.S.S.F. member, "on 6th June at 5:30 p.m. we surrendered before the Army. 199 surrendered before us. We were made to lie down on the hot road, interrogated, made to move on our knees, hit with rifle butts and kicked with boots on private parts and head. Our hands were tied behind our backs and no water was given to us. We were asked 'how many people were inside? and 'where are the arms and ammunition?' At about 7 p.m., we were made to sit in the parakrama- near the Army tanks. There was firing from the side of the Akal Takht and many were injured." This is yet another convincing evidence of the dignity and consideration shown by the Indian Army to those captured, after the action was over.