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What a brilliant documentary. Bet muslims are goin to be in hidin afta that. I wonder how these modern muslim gyals are goin to feel afta seein this. Come to think of it would many muslims have actually watched this???

well im a not part of the chumar community but i have been to one as me dad knows alot of people who go there. they have pictures of our gurus in their gurdwaras aswell an even the patis there were a turban an that. they have a guru granth sahib there aswell but i know that they aswell are sikhs an many do take amrit an some from that community go to non ravidassi gurdwaras aswell. also when there is vasakhi mela in handsworth birmingham the nagar kirtan always goes past that temple and they join aswell .

well in most books it usually is with a 'W' but now so many use a 'V' i've now heard that they may be changing alot of books and use the 'V'

Not putting on weight?? U have what docs call as fast metabolism. I have it too. serius i know what u mean i eat n eat n i hardly eva put on weight. actually i'v bin the same weight for over 8 years n im 19 now. U really dont need to worry as long as you dont just eat junk food like helthy salads n stuff n roti u'l b jus fine but um wen ur older aparently us with a fast metablism will start putting on weight so serius enjoy it while it last :TH:

Gosh serius what will it take for people to feel a need for Khalistan......another 1984?? haven't we seen enuff blood shed?? Ok many people do cut their hair an drink etc etc, but serius if sikhs were to have khalistan things would be so different. In india even mentioning Khalistan is a sin manybe thats why people there seem to shun it. Perhaps they don't want another 1984. Many people who are in india have lost family member due to events of 1984. Those who don't live in india may think there is no need but their is every need. With Khalistan families will not fear thier sons being killed for no reason, people will be free to practise sikhi an im sure with a khalsitani army khalistan can be a powerful country. being in places outside india we have alot moe freedom to be sikh then those in india. Those who believe in Khalistan and are still to this day fighting for it will not let the country fall or our sikhi. So those who seriusly think there is no need should re-think cus if anythin was to happen where would us sikhs go cus we don't have a place to call our own, india is called hindustan. It belongs to hindus not sikhs and hindus can do as they please it's their country :lol:

All i can say is WOW :TH: the best albums ever. i would rather spend money buying albums like this. come on their not expensive and are not about ur usual ishq and pyaar. I big up these guys. Many young people may not like the sound of your usual dhadi's an some dont evn bother cus they think them as bland. All the tunes by immortal productions are catchy an u jaust want to keep on listening over n over. My dad who is over 50 loves these tracks an loves listenin 2 them. I just hope people dont abuse such music cus even tho on the slieve it is asked that people do not abuse the albums, many find sikhi a fashion an i so hope they dont play them in clubs or in a car while smoking. This music is not for dancing but foir trying to understand sikhi n the evnents that have taken place such as 1984. sachi i know shaheedi 400 has only just come out but i so cant wait for the next one

It's really sad to see people create such cults in order to abolish true sikhi n astonishing how people actually fall for such lies n nonsense. At end of day who ever it is someone somewhere is going to bad mouth the gurus cus serius of all religons sikhi has the most martyers and is one of the most beautiful religns in this world. It's weird how all these cults seem to have hindu beliefs but use sikhi as atract people i wonder if the indian government has something to do with these??

AH it 's really sad when someone says something like this. At the end of the day if the singhnia don't wanna be close friends don't bother. I am not a full sikh (i have not yet taken amrit). I always used to find it hard to talk to jus normal sikh family people both male and female so alot of my friends were black. Ok there are big differences of what i believe to those of my black friends but i would rather be friends with them then those who just think themselves above me and well just be fake and don't want to know me. End of day it is those sighnia who are missing out from not talking to you.

Yeh me saw the proggie last night. I wern't surprised by either tully or kushwants comments on sant ji. Tully is always trying to make sant ji out to be some kind of evil person who only had hate an the thing with sant ji having an evil look in his eye An kushwant. My grandad never liked him an i always used to wonder why he used to be swearing at the tv everytime this geeza came on. Well notice how he said sant ji was just a no body an just a person from a farming family with not much. How can he say such a thing. Sant ji was a somebody and a big part in the sikh future. What happened was in 84 and from that day on and now forever sant ji will be remembered. Have u noticed how whenever kushwant is on tv he is always wearing the exactly the same clothes.

Ok u say u dont get pakis. They drink when they are not supposed to. WELL HELLO SO DO SIKHS. So therefore u think sikhs or people from sikh families are also hypocrites. Don't get me wrong i don't wanna say enthin bad about me sikh brothers n sisters but some of em aint as good as we try an make out. Some sikhs are just as bad as the muslims.

hey girl i know jus the feelin. tellin sum1 summit importnt espesh summit such as that u wanna get married to them is ahrd. U just going to have to tell him an c if he feels the same, but if he dont things may change between the two of u. as in things get all weird. Wt ahve u got to loose. just atke the cahnce which could even end in happiness. :TH:

I don't get it!!!!!!! @ Ok if a girl/man is caught doing something against sikhi they are labelled bad. Everyone knows what they done an well then people treat them different. This is exactly the same case. No-one forces such girls to go with such boys. This girl was willing to leave home. If he hadn't rejected her would she still be feeling the same. I think not. She might ahve been lovin it. Girls have control of what they do then why do they go an do summit so stupid an then expect ppl like us 2 feel sorry for them. I know it harsh but evn a girl who's parents aren't religious or don't know much about sikhi know you don't go with a muslim boy. Such girls chose such a fate why should we feel the need to be all sorry. Being raped was wrong but she did sleep with this boy before by her own free will.

I know how u feel. It was the same kind of thing wen i started secondary skool. The majority was goreh an the minority was mixed. All u have to do is make friends u dont change the way you are. Theres always some friendly person who you can make friends with an well if there are any older sikh kids make friends with them. If u change skool they might jus sus out that u done so because u felt u did not belong. If you pull through then so can the next sikh who joins the skool. :TH:

I have to say nowadays sex is just a kehl. I rememba sum1 tellin me about two people who were to be gettin married and well sum1 in the family died an the wedding was cancelled and arranged for another date. Twice that wedding was cancelled. By the time they were to get married the girl had the biggest stomach in the world(she was pregnant). Wouldnt sum1 prefer to be pure when getting married and feel proud of the kind of preson they are marrying. If i was a man an the girl i was to be getting married to had sex with me before, i would feel disgusted. Maybe thats just my thinking. I would rather be pure then go an do some extra curricular activities that could lead me away from my sikhi an disrespect myself and my body. Nowadays girls an boys dont think each other as brother an sista. More as people we could date. I guess it's just them adjusting to western society. Yeh people should adjust but they should not forget their religion an the things the gurus and other sikhs went through for us to practice our sikhi freely.

AAAH it's likle sis's burday. Have a gud 1 choti penji. Hope u get all u want an i bet i can gess what u want.lol :TH: :HP:

Tru say but u can't just blame bhangra. Ok almost no every song that is classed panjabi bhangra is about girls/boys(gurdas maan sings about this). There should be limits. I agree that some music should not be classed as bhangra an sikhi (metz n trix,e=mc) dirty lyrics but some would argue what are we meant to sing about. Can't do bhangra about sikhi. Dancing to this would be disrespectful. can't just sing about the fields the youth would no longer listen to panjabi. Ok these people wanna sing about girls an alcohol they should first straigten out the type of video before the lyrics. Nowadays you can't watch an music video with your parents too much dirty gyals with nothin on. but we are in the west times have changed. We can't tell others what to do but only ourselves follow the right path.

Happy burday 2 ju happy burday. Hanji paji u dont know me but hey i just thought i'd say happy birthday an i hope u enjoy your yea as a 23 year old

ooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhh nnnnooooooooo I sed paji i was ment to say penji. plz mafi kardio penji meh bhaut sorry ya

Soz bt dont know which brumie u ws chattin 2 paji.lol bt me frm great barr . scott arms 2 be precise. wheres abouts u frm

All i can say is that hindustan will try an do anything they can to try an end sikhi in their cuntry. If they really want his give us KHALISTAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry but stuff that involves our brothers an sisters always peevs me off espesh wen it in hindustan. Gosh even the british government are better to us sikhs then in india an we helped get india where it is now(well my grandparents etc etc) All i can say is that this is all gettin pathetic ok ban mobiles n stuff cus they jus accesories but kara n kirpan. Bloody hell man y dont they ban wearing a tikka(u know the one that hindus wear afta doin their morin prayers) oh an the hijjab an while they at it why not jus ask ppl not to wear clothes n stuff at all then they can't complain about anything except ugly bodies. Gosh ppl get a life aint they got anything else such as help poverty rather than singling out sikhs.

What are they an what do they do? An how do they help us?

GOSH these muslims don't stop at anything. have to say they are stupid thinkin they are going to do all this cus u gotta b sik 2 convert 2 islam :doh: @ Ok i know they go for girls but unattractive(i aint had no muslim try n get me an me is not gud lookin). It's more the gullable gyals n thiko's that most muslims go for. Those girls who go round wearing a kara(steel bangle, not an actual kara unitl u take amrit) an try 2 get attention from any mans on this world. I say if those girls wanna convert let them. Only those who are intrested in sikhi an their history will actually not bother looking else where. Ok many people blame the parents. say that it is their fault that girls do this cus their parents taught them nothing of sikh. You dont have to be taught to know. If it is in you karma to be with the khalsa you will be, if not then no-one can force anyone. I'v alredy said that it isn't just girls that should be blamed but also boys. Most call going with a muslim girl having fun, i wud rather be with sumone who is pure an not just up for having fun. So maybe if some sikh boys were to not show attention elsewhere but to their own an actually realise what sikhi is things might be different. But as i said before you can't force someone if they don't actually wanna know.

Me happy that me is not the only bad spella on this forum. Na paji jee aya nu(an i know i spelt that wrong again) But yeh me is frum gud old barmingham. :doh:

I agree with Khalsa_starr. It is up to a person on whether they want to convert to another religion or not. To me those who are born into a family do not automatically become sikh/christian etc. I order to be part of sikhi you have to have taken amrit an wear the 5k's. At the end of the day many siks do say "they are forcing our girls into islam etc etc". People never actually take into consideration that those who have converted to sikhi their family an friends maybe think exactly the same as us. People are not bone idel if a girl gets suked into believing a muslim what can we do. I'm sure if the girls had principles an respect for family they would never dream of turning to another religion but turn even more towards their religion that they were born into. Who knows some of the girls who converted to islam might even be happy. We hear of girls an boys who convert to sikhi and are happy. were all happy about this but i'm sure people of their original faith are not. There are so many stories nowadays of girls being seduced by muslim boys. As a girl i get peeved of that no1 actually takes into account that sikh family boys go with muslim girls. Isn't it exactly the same. In sikhi there is equality. Why make girls out to be the bad ones

hey i was just wondering if anybody watched rooted on channel 5 on sunday? It was about a sikh boy from glasgow who goes to panjab an stuff. I actually thoguht it was good in the sense that tjose who ahve never been india or the any of the gurdwara would see this an want to experience it thyemselves. Makes me feel kinda good knowing that sikhi and our culture is being shown on mainstream tv. :TH: