Laadli Fauj

none of you have stayed with the fauj, know/experienced their way of life, what they do, how they are. none of you has the nitnem of a fauji either, so before you start running your mouths, make yourself worthy of even moving your tongues.

^exactly FROM damdama sahib maharaj gave/completed santhiyaa to Baba Deep Singh Ji, jathedar of Tarna Dal, providing him with orders to spread the mukh-bol of gurbani the way it should be read, thus Damdame Sahib Vali Taksal/Damdami Taksal. Still doesn't change the fact that Damdami Taksal was once an entity of Misl Shaheedan Tarna Dal

dont make a fuss out of it b, just go. nothing wrong in respecting and observing the beliefs of others nauve paatshah gave shaheedi for a dharam and way of life he did not believe in. however, maharaj respected their right to believe what they believed, and was willing to give his own head for it. so long as you don't end up performing their rituals n stuff, you're safe. i say go with ur mom, let her do her thing, but hang back/observe yourself

it means what it says misl of shaheeds you know how like there were 13 or so misls in punjab (i may have the number wrong, but its around there) prior to unification under maharaja ranjit singh? a misl is basically a city state or body of government (someone with more giaan please give a more in-depth definition of what a misl is). But yeah, baba deep singhs jatha became known as misl shaheedan, the misl of shaheeds

after baba deep singh ji led his jatha to darbar sahib, all of who were ready to lay down their lives and give shaheedi, his jatha, Tarna Dal, became known as Misl Shaheedan Tarna Dal, the misl of shaheeds.

shaheed singhs come back all the time

get in contact with a good nihang singh, a bajurg probably, or a jathedar. if they think you're worthy they might find you a nihangani

thats my gurdwara :D bhai gurpreet singh is the head granthi, on main taabiya, dunno the name of the singh reading sohila tho

i dont know exactly how it happened, but since the rise of nirmal sants around the time of the british would probably be around when taksal and the Dal split? im not exactly sure, forgive me if im wrong. As for reuniting, i doubt its possible, but Dal and Taksal are definitely closely related, historically and rehitwise (despite some obvious differences)

Urm that's abit confusing, so your saying Baba Gurbaksh Singh Ji was also jathedar of Bhudda Dal, as well as jathedar of Taksall and Akaal Takht? :3: hanji, thats exactly what im saying it would be like if in the AKJ, some singhs were given seva to give santhiyaa. Jathedar of AKj would remain same, and would also be jathedaar of the entire jatha, as well as this santhiyaa portion, because they worked under his orders back then, jathedar of the Dal had a LOT more authority, he was practically head of the panth. As leader of the fauj, and the panth in general, by default, the jathedaari of Akaal Takhat sahib, supreme authority in the panth, would fall to him

In puratan days, Taksal and the Dal were one entity, Taksaal was an institution IN the Dal, so jathedaar of Taksal and the Dal were the same person. Leader of the Dal back then was also usually jathedar of Akaal Takhat sahib, they had a LOT more authority than the Dals jathedar today does. Akaali Foola Singh is a good example we all know about, jathedaar of the Dal, and Akaal Takhat Sahib

no problem, sorry it was so late, didn't see your post earlier

tiro tufango bado raam jango dhamakhdhaar aniar kamand kor-rhaa panj sastar parvaan tiro--lance/spear tufang--rifle bado raam jango--revolver/pistol dhamakhdhaar aniar-- bow and barbed arrow kamand kor-rhaa--shastar similar to golaa panj sastar parvaan--these five shastar are accepted/necessary (for sikhs to keep on them) in ugardanti, maharaj says "karhoo khalsa panth teesar pravesaa, jageh singh jodhe dhare neel bhesaa" forgive my rough translation on this, its probably slightly off: i will create a third nation, the khalsaa, the singhs will awaken and wear blue banhaa khalsa mero roop hai khaas khalsa is my true roop if khalsa is akaal roop, then khalsa should look like akaal, shouldn't they? One day Guru Gobind Singh ji Maharaj asked his Singhs what Mahakaal Saroop looks like. Most of the singhs were quite, and then one stood up "Maharaj, God has no roop, hes formless" Maharaj accepted this answer, as it was true, but there was still more to go down. Sahibjada Baba Fateh Singh ji got up and said to his Father that he would be back in a bit, in Mahakaal saroop. Babaji left darbar, and after doing ardas to Akaal purakh, began dressing himself. He tied a tall blue dumallaa, complete with farlaa and shastar, comparable to that of his father's. He then put on blue banaa, did kamar kassa, and adorned his banaa with more shastar. He then came back to divaan and presented himself to Maharaj. Maharaj then told the sangat that this was the saroop of Mahakaal.

beautiful :D thanks for that

first one

i looked at the title page in my pothi, it says nitnem, das granthi, ate hor banhiyaa, so yeah, its like a super das granthi i guess, haha

hehe its the hazoori taksaal, nanded, pothi

my das granthi pothi japjisahib sabd hajaare jaap sahib sabd hajaare patsaahi 10 panj savaiyye sastr naam mala benti chaupai anand sahib chaare bareh maah tikke ki vaar basant ki vaar lava kuchaji suchaji gunhvanti sodar rehraas ardaas aarti rakhia de sabd sohilaa akaal ustat bachittr natak chandi charitr ukat bilaas chandi charitr dooja chandi di vaar ugrdanti bhagauti astotr brahm kavich sansahar sukhmana malkaus ki vaar vaar bhagat bhagauti sorathh rajput ghore asa sant kaaj sri kaal ramchand sastrmala mantr asfokat sadd lakhi jangal sikhi rehit fateh nama gian prabodh dasmesh mehmaa

thats great if the library still doesnt comply, just check the pothis out and never return them

here's the hukam maharaj game me regarding your situation: http://sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=2289

good decision sheraa, remember you're always welcome to ask ur brothers and sisters for advice, we're here for you

if u absolutely have to go, keep the shastar, as mention above, gupt. wrap them into your keski or something over time, our relatives and old family friends who arent yet amritdhari have learnt to accept that we dont go to parties and such, and the respect that. if they are open minded enough, consider talking with them, u, ur parents, and ur relatives but remember, a singhs greatest weapon is his ardas

she obviously got scared when you mentioned petition, so thats definitely something to try other things are letting ALL sangat in your area know, start protests and boycotts yet another solution, probably the easiest, would be to check maharaj out of teh library and never return them, and pay the fine whatever that may be (never too much for Maharaj)