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  1. Please stick to the topic of discussion. What does nirgun or sargun have to do with only Amritdhari gursikhs leaving reincarnation?
  2. I have been reading the comments on this topic which is very relevant for today's society. Many people have this question. Some comments have strayed away from answering the question in the topic heading. I too have strayed away in my comments. Bhul Chuk Maaf. As I was doing my Nitnem this morning this topic crept into my mind. I was doing Anand Sahib Paath and as I remember I was on the pauri, 'Sur Nar Mun Jan Amrit Khojde So Amrit Gur Te Paaya'. I felt as though this pauri provides the basis for answering this question. I want to share something from my life experience: I was born into a Gursikh family, my parents were both Amritdhari. I have never cut my hair, never ate meat, never smoked. As was growing up, I used to go to Gurmat class, Punjabi class, Kirtan class and Paath Santhiya class, But I never really understood what it all meant until I was older. I would read Gurbani but I never actually stopped to understand what Guru Ji was telling me. I always felt that I would take Khande di Pahul one day but now was not the time. I had schools exams to study for, make a career, get married etc.... Many of us Punjabi Sikhs think that oh Amrit is not that important and we are Punjabi, Sikhi is ours, we can take Amrit later on in life, whats the big deal?. I too used to think like this, the fact that I was effectively living like someone who was Amritdhari, I thought that oh I too can take Amrit later, it's not that big a deal. It wasn't until I started to listen to Maskeen Ji's kathas that I really began to understand what Gurbani was telling us. It began to start making sense. I could read Gurbani and understand what I was reading. I began to do more of my own research, listening to other Giani's kathas reading steeks, Sikhi to the Max was also extremely helpful. I felt closer and closer to Guru Ji. I began to feel that nothing else matters in this world. I felt as though Guru Ji was my best friend and I want to go and hug him so tight and never let go from his protection. Guru Ji is all about love, Waheguru Ji is love, Waheguru Ji's language is love. Whoever can love Waheguru will merge with Waheguru and achieve liberation, But to achieve this there is a process. Panj Pyare in 1699 gave their heads for Guru Ji without asking why. This is love and devotion. One who loves truly does not consider consequences, they just accept hukkam because they have faith. I began to feel the same inside me, each time I went to the Gurdwara and did ardas/matha tek before Guru Ji I felt Guru Ji's presence inside me, it was amazing. My love for Guru Ji grew and grew and I finally decided that it was time for me to show my devotion by offering myself at Guru Ji's feet. It took me 26 years to realise this. Some people realise Guru JI's love earlier, they are lucky. I will never forget the day I took Khande di Pahul, I had tears of joy that Guru Ji has accepted me as his Sikh. The most amazing thing is that each time I do Naam Simran and Paath, I get the same taste on my tongue as the Amrit I took at my Amrit Sanchar, this is what evoking Amrit is. I am still amazed to this day. I feel that my journey has just begun though, the more Naam Abhiyas I do the more the taste will stick and become permanent and one day I will receive the Dibb Dristee mentioned in Anand Sahib. It is clear to me that I had to take Amrit and become Amritdhari, otherwise I would not have been able to taste the Amrit in Gurbani. I realise now how important taking Khande di Pahul is to achieving liberation. So yes I do feel (from my experience) that only those who take Amrit from Khande di Pahul will achieve mukti. Gurbani says that those who drink Amrit live forever. To me this says it all. Our life is too short so we must make the most of it. Bhul Chuk Maaf
  3. It is possible but it is not Gurmat. Simply focusing on Naam is Gurmat.
  4. My point is that the past is the past. Yes you can learn from it, but you only have the present to do anything about it. You only have the present to decide whether you want to accept Guru Ji's hukkam and take khande di pahul. Your future liberation from this life is in your present hands, take it or leave it, it's your choice.
  5. There is something in Islam called muta. I urge people to google muta in Islam. It may relate to this subject but I am unsure.
  6. Bhai Gurdas Ji's Pauri 49 Vaar 1 explains how Waheguru Gurmantar was made. This pauri explains that in each of the 4 Yugs Guru Ji was present in an avatar form and gave the name of Waheguru that was appropriate at that time. In this the present time our Guru Nanak Dev Ji's Jyot is in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. It is from Guru Granth Sahib Ji that we will receive the Gurmantar. What happened in previous yugs is irrelevant. That time has passed. Only the Present is relevant. So please stop referring to the past and refer to Guru Granth Sahib Ji's Hukkam.
  7. Sachkhand is not a place like a planet or country. It cannot be populated. If you know anything about sikhi then you should know that Waheguru is everything and everything is Waheguru. We are given this life to break free from reincarnation and merge back into Waheguru. Gurbani tells us this. Please read and understand Gurbani which can explain better than I can. Please read if you have not done so the pauris I have mentioned. It should be very clear and self explanatory.
  8. It is wrong to show dis-respect to others we have no right. This is Ego and has no place in Sikhi. There is only one supreme Waheguru. If we start to state that my faith is better than another's then it is showing Ego even if it is true. Our focus should remain on Waheguru alone. This is Guru Ji's message. Guru Ji never shows dis-respect to anyone. Guru Nanak Dev Ji went to the Mosque and showed the worshipers the how to worship correctly. Guru Hargobind Ji built a Mosque. Bhikhan Shah Ji saw Allah's light in Guru Gobind Singh Ji. Guru Ji does not discriminate. Guru Ji points out contradictions and hypocrisies and puts everyone on the right path. Guru is the supreme truth. Waheguru, Allah, Ram, Gobind, Raheem, Khuda, Rab etc... are all names of the same light. We as Sikhs are given the Gurmantar of Waheguru and it is the name Waheguru that Guru Ji has told us to meditate upon. I have no idea if the Prophet married someone who was 9 years old, I wasn't there, BUT we do know that the very same Namaz that the Prophet did would have been the same that Baba Farid Ji did and Baba Farid Ji tasted Allah's Amrit. The Prophet may have done some good things or some bad things as did all the other avatars before Guru Nanak Dev Ji (see Bachitar Natak for reference). The point is that people will always say bad things. I have the greatest of respect for someone who is true to their faith and Waheguru such as the Hindu and Muslim bhagats mentioned in Guru Granth Sahib Ji they are all greater than me. There are very few if any that are true Muslims or True Hindus or true Christians or even true Sikhs because people are stuck in petty everyday worldly arguments and miss the glory of Waheguru.
  9. Listen to Maskeen Ji's Japji Sahib katha. This is what made me fall in love with gurbani and made me realise that I simply had to take Khande di Pahul.
  10. There are 4 pauris where Bhai Gurdas Ji mentions Charnamrit. Pauri 3 Vaar 1, Pauri 23 Vaar 1, Pauri 7 Vaar 11 and Pauri 22 Vaar 40. The point is that one cannot and absolutely CANNOT achieve mukti without Guru Ji. Gurbani keeps reiterating this and Bhai Gurdas Ji's Vaar keeps mentioning this. One may live their life by: being good, doing seva, not cutting their hair, avoiding getting entangled in the 5 evils BUT one will NOT acieve mukti without Guru Ji. what may happen by doing good deeds is that one may get another chance in the same life or in another live to take Kande di pahul and accept Guru Granth Sahib Ji as their Guru. Pauri 22 Vaar 40 explains this fact.
  11. Congratulations on deciding to learn more about Sikhi. One cannot achieve mukti without Guru Ji. Therefore one must accept Guru Ji as their Guru. Guru Ji gives us the Amrit, Gurmantar and the Rehat by which we live by. When one takes Amrit they are accepting Guru Granth Sahib Ji as their Guru. The Panj Pyare collectively as Guru Ji's form, provide the Rehat, Gurmantar and how to say Gurmantar. Without going through this process, one cannot achieve liberation. So my friend, I urge you to do more research on Sikhi, read more Gurbani, Understand Gurbani and Guru Ji will bless you with amrit and you can begin to fulfill your life journey.
  12. Please can you post the rest of the article or state which newspaper this is from. I can't find it on Ajit Jalandhar online.
  13. Vaar 1 pauris 4 & 20. Also Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj in Sri Bachittar Natak mentions Muhammed by the name of Mahadeen, stating that Waheguru created him and made him emperor of Arabia, but he spread Allah's name through force and forced people to become circumcised which does not comply with Sikh philosophy. This is why Waheguru Ji had to send Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji to spread the truth.
  14. Gurbani tells us to follow the truth which is the naam. Gurbani is for all faiths. Yes to be a true Muslim one must follow the Koran which means (for a muslim) to submit your mind body and soul to Allah. When one takes Amrit from panj pyare one has to do the same (submit to Guru Ji with mind body and soul). The name Mohammad is only specifically mentioned in Gurdas Ji's vaar
  15. Gurbani is the supreme truth and preaches the supreme truth. On page 141 Guru Ji talks about Namaz, on page 1083 Guru Ji tells to keep the Koran in your heart. There are many teekas all with different translations. We have to read them ourselves and make our own conclusions. But all the teekas come down to one thing essentially that is that Guru Ji tells us to meditate on the true naam whichever faith one belongs to. On page 1419 there is a line: Those beards are true, which brush the feet of the True Guru. Guru Ji is actually talking about the mind thinking of Guru Ji's feet not actual beard because not everyone's beard is long enough to touch Guru Ji's feet when we matha tek. See professor Sahib Singh's teeka.
  16. You must remember your sole purpose on this earth is to achieve mukti from 84 lakh joon. If you acheive mukti in this lifetime, only then your life is successful. With Guru Ji's blessing hopefully 5 pyare will visit you and you will have khande di pahul and receive the Gurmantar to start your journey to achieve mukti. I am praying for you...
  17. I would like to ask, When you cut your hair, do you think of Guru Ji? Everyone who wants to gain knowledge has the right to ask about Sikhi.
  18. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh, I am new to this forum, I saw this topic and began reading. I don't understand why people are diverting away from the original question: Are sikhs descendent of the hindu god ramchander? I want to point out I am not a scholar on Sikhi but I thought that I should share my thoughts on this topic. Firstly Guru Sahib is not a body and has never been, Guru Ji is the light of Waheguru i.e. Gurjot, which can be found throuogh Gur Shabad. It is this light that was in Guru Nanak Dev Ji from his prakash and it is this light that Guru Ji passed onto Guru Angad Dev Ji and so on until Guru Gobind Singh Ji passed on this light into the Shabad Guru, Guru Granth Sahib in 1708. For Guru Nanak Dev Ji to come to this world to spread the truth about Waheguru, he had to be born into a family. It so happens that yes this family have ancestory that goes back to ramchander but this does not mean that Guru Nanak was descended from ramchander but the family. Guru Ji is NOT human but Light. Also why stop at ramchander, he was a descendent of dasrath who was descended from someone else and so on... this ancestory can go on for a very long time, eventually we will end up that everything comes from Waheguru Ji. Therefore Sikhi is descended from the light of Waheguru, NOT from ramchander. Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj is simply retelling history by explaining why Guru Nanak came to this earth. Bhul Chuk Maaf
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