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  1. jkvlondon
    so what I got is you love love love eating chicken menses ...which were passed through the same channel the bird defecates . Most egg production is salmonella ridden and the typical production is like this : http://www.peta.org/features/egg-industry-cruelty/ so you put aside compassion and your rehit to eat flesh foods ....well done guess you don't get what Guru ji said at all try learning to cook for yourself and quit eating junk food from the stores , everything you have mentioned is the worst kind of food to put into your body .
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    dunno the stunts that the Sun pulled show a massive hatred for sikhs may2 cartoon after Captain verbal assault http://www.torontosun.com/2017/05/01/may-2-2017 notice how it digs at shaheedi of Bhai Dayal Das ji
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    really you would send your bro to a nigura /pro RSS guy for spiritual shastarvidhiya?
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    why is anyone payingany attention to Darshan when he was excommunicated for his actions??
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    point is if we look at the real idea of democracy as the Greeks has envisaged it , the power of votes was given to the stakeholders in the defence of the city-state , free people who actually put their loyalty to the people and the land ahead of personal gains . The wars, treaties, trade etc were all decided on an equals basis with all being able vote in the decision-making process. Today's 'democracy' is a farcical drama which neither serves the will of the people properly nor prevents the siphoning off of resources and power to elite individuals. It seems the misls system was fair and took regional differences into account as the locals decided the laws. The only thing now is how to maintain the control and prevent history repeating itself with a new generation of Dogra wannabes
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    just read an older thread from gurmat bibek http://gurmatbibek.com/forum/read.php?3,6902
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    we always keep the superior person on whom we rely on to our right side e.g. english saying right hand man . That is why during Anand Karaj Guru ji is on both parties right hand side at equal distance .
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    The observer lives with us , inside us He is the chitragupt , the Dharam Raj , the Almighty and the One ... stories may give our brains space to create an expectation but all things are energy . NDEs I have read seem to point out it is the soul that is the impartial witness and also decides if the person has made it /deserves freedom. The conscience of the person gives account . As Guru ji says Sabh kich ghar meh,bahar nahin , Bahar tole so bharam bhulai Our true home is our hirda , the seat of our soul - everything is there.
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    that is a fib , the documentary i watched they were cooking using onions , also I had langar on many occasions and there was definitely onions in there . In numerous itihaasic gurdwarey it is the same
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    gurdwarey used chillis, onions and ginger in thardka for sabjian and dhal , green dhaniya and the usual garam masala, haldi and chilli powder , occasional sabat jeera , sabat dalchini and long in mitte chawal
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    garlic is left out because it makes the breath smell bad that is what the older bibian taught us , remember sikhi is about practicality not superstitions
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    that is not the reason , it is a practical one sabat dhals can be left to boil they will take it better and not disintegrate with keeping warm so easily also they are more filling (remember for poverty stricken) and contain more iron, so more healthy
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    maybe offer those people occupying the benches elderly fitness/therapy classes in onsite gym ...those who are genuine will appreciate any help to be better the fakers will make excuses . Then everyone will know those in genuine need and give proper support rather than just chairs .
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    agreed it is for us to use our minds , we were told even a kinka of degh shouldn't be dropped either when when giving or receiving so what do you say to people who don't even think that way?
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    when we've done langars for family events all the extra langar was sent to homes, given to granthis or used by ourselves to avoid the sin of throwing it down the sewer system ( I cannot believe someone tried to make out it was like doing jal parvaan) . The langar should be given in smaller portions so no wastage , if people need more they can get no problems. If we all went with the mentality to just eat enough to take the edge off the hunger, it would be good for us and the langar concept. Sure rich people can eat but do we really need to eat langar if we are not in need of it just because it is pehle pangat picche sangat? I'm sure people have gone straight to darbar hall without langar many times because of the lack of need. when I was a teen and kid it was normal not to have canteen counters with serving stations , people were seated like guests and the food was brought to them after the thalis also relays of people with baltis , jugs and baskets/bowls of parshadey would ask sangat if they needed anything , nothing was too much hassle. This was showing respect and attention to sangat , now it is like a conveyer belt mentality ...big difference. I agree about the stupidity of the wastage of langar just because someone else made it ...seen the stubbornness of some too many times
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    point he was making was don't just take it as given but still do what all sikhs are expected to do 1 kirt karo,2. vand chako, 3.naam japo . Bhai Manjh ji was trying to become a sikh but Guru ji wanted him to follow rehit . Even our Guru ji's led by example by earning through commerce or farming instead of being like aj kal de babey getting fat on golak.
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    People forget that even Guru Arjan Dev ji told off Bhai Manjh ji for eating from the langar ... it is not meant for people to take for granted but to see as kirpa ... Guru ji themselves earned their own kirat di kamai rather than just eating from the sangat...
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    given that we are supposed to make people comfortable physically enough to sit and concentrate on kirtan and bhagti not so sleepy they fall asleep , the rich foods like fried stuff, pickles (which is kind of insulting the prashad aspect of langar, we don't put sweeties and sauces on karah ). Kheer is a tradition that is long-standing and not threatening to people with gluten problems . We should be aware of allergies and try to make food allergen free or offer alternatives for those in need (like the plain rice I suggested) . The gratitude is gone and that is the main problem , too much choice so , that much nakarey, keep it simple , do it well and healthy and it's a win win ... Another problem to consider: Disposing of left over langar is usually a hassle that most gurdwarey don't want to deal with so throw it into the garbage disposal unit ... and that used frying oil is another bigger problem to get rid of responsibly . Can't pour it into the sewage system as it will cause fatbergs .
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    er you have no idea that the horrible language used about non-believers stems from the copying of jewish scriptures , jews refer to non-jews as beasts/cattle etc . for instance films try to be cute and call non-jew girls SHIKSHAs explainig it just mean cute non-jew but: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shiksa "The more insulting terms for non-Jews are shiksa (feminine) and shkutz (masculine). I gather that these words are derived from the Hebrew root Shin-Qof-Tzadei, meaning loathsome or abomination. The word shiksa is most commonly used to refer to a non-Jewish woman who is dating or married to a Jewish man, which should give some indication of how strongly Jews are opposed to the idea of intermarriage. The term shkutz is most commonly used to refer to an anti-Semitic man. Both terms can be used in a less serious, more joking way, but in general they should be used with caution." taken from jewfaq.org Personally , I was ignored totally by my jewish classmates even though we were in the same classrooms for four years just because they thought whatever they thought - their loss . You cannot generalise there are extreme Jews who do believe they are the chosen , despite what their rabbis may have taught them .
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    maybe encourage pangat visiters to do active sewa in the pangat at least so it's not totally onesided and there is a chance for them to develop some nimrata. I watched a TV program recently where an Italian chef travelled to Amritsar and wanted to see Darbar Sahib guess who he was shown around by , yep the Hindus(middle class) when he asked them why do you go if you don't believe in sikhism they kind of of ehmmed and ahhed then said we are not stopped by anyone as it is open to everyone . Granted they did some langar sewa (peeling potatoes and onions) but they could not say anything apart from when langar time opens, and the times . So he went and asked sewadars more details about how they work out spices and salt without tasting etc. He was blown away by the quantities , the cleanliness, the efficiency , the taste , the sewa, the feeling of community which was zero commented on by his friends. So much so he wanted to buy supplies to donate, he bought a sack of rice and surprise surprise when he reached the langar storehouse there was one singh doing the receipts and a pandit sitting there doing jack (my husband was kind of surprised too) . what is going on are we so pushed back that hindus can traipse in and act like they own the joint ?
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    in the old days people had to travel for days to get to dharamshaley so what I said was the primary functions , remember gurdwarey also put people up for free too . I am not discounting sewa or equality aspects but the meaning of the food .
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    point of langar was to keep body and soul together i.e. provide necessary nourishment for the traveller or poor. Now it is like a restaurant where people even talk about langar as if they are giving a review for a culinary magazine . Most dharamshala would just provide dhal and roti , occasionally kheer on gurpurabs . The families put on langars like they compete outside with their cars and homes , there is no sewa bhavna, otherwise they would actually make sure their langar served the needy not their well-fed rishtedaars. I reckon there should be set langar - one dhal , one sabji , roti , plain rice for gluten free people, no nuts/seeds used , no outside mithaai/sweets . Kheer on gurpurabs .... we do not need pakorey/samosey/chips ...if people want that food the can go to a restaurant or make at home . We cannot serve that to gur ki sangat as Guru Nanak Dev ji has instructed us not eat that which will cause us pain and increase vikars . Make phikka cha for everyone and reply sweetly 'bibi ji je mitta chahida Darbar vich gurbani di mittas leh levo'
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    nothing says she has to , if an outside group sponsors her and removes her for the situation after securing her divorce/anullment surely that is not down to the sikhs there and so extricates her whilst removing blame from families .
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    He is a bit of a snake in the grass be careful : https://www.sikh24.com/2012/07/10/baba-ramdev-demonstrates-anti-sikh-feelings-takes-u-turn-on-1984-memorial/#.WQMO4n1tnIU http://www.hindustantimes.com/punjab/now-ramdev-booked-for-hurting-sikh-sentiments/story-Wi7fy3CuFAZcDbb8FcctgN.html http://sikhissues.blogspot.co.uk/2006/08/ramdev-vip-at-gurdwara-soho-road.html http://www.mapsofindia.com/my-india/india/controversial-remarks-by-baba-ramdev DDP yoga (gora exwrestler) or even Kokoro yoga I would consider better as it doesn't come with the hindu kowtowing: veteran's results with DDP just reading up on kokoro yoga , again this is a veteran who used yoga in the battlefield to centre his emotions to become a better warrior , so far so interesting
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    wouldn't take advise on health from that diseased mind ...mr Ramdev is modi's pet , take up jumprope, weighttraining, gatka, MMA, anything
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