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This is what you do went the kurd parchaar gets to you , you go to the newest sikhs and give them Guru Pita ji's pegam:

Surinder Singh's view on the whole Mann issue and singers

reply to his video:

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Thanks veer ji interesting from both angles for me ...

sorry I've underlined my answers but I feel he's not going be happy with anything , he seems determined to portray his analysis of amritdhari people a certain way. Oh well, I asked him what he meant by educated sikh but he could not clarify whether it was only world ways or in terms of sikhi (not discounting the option of both or neither).

you seem to forget most people know him from his film career prior to his singing one, and singing songs about how girls and boys should be maaf from everything , and dilsaaf hona chahida being enough is influencing people to loosen their moral standards . He is the grandaddy of the tawaifs

mate I'm married to a gora , and I do not think that a skin colour indicates sikhi or a costume ... it is actions alone ... show me when and if these people have had shown up for the panth... if you ask them to correct mispronounciation of bani to keep satkar they get upset instead of saying Ok Satbachan I'll try better.

the rapid rise rise in cancer can be directly linked to the uranium pollution in the water from factories and coal usage and the xenoestrogens run-off from the farmlands . Because of lack of clean water our people and their neighbours are suffering . The pushing for the Anandpur Resolution or even being paid for the water could have meant setting up water purification plants at a minimum . But of course I shouldn't say the politicians should have done their job and ensured the success of their constituency and the health of their constituents . Badal's terms (four so far) 1970-1971 (president's rule imposed) 2007-2012 2012- present day

erm , muslims KILL each other because of a feud started a thousand years before their birth ...so NO they are not sane examples , they are openly racist ask about mistreatment of Indian and Pakistani muslim by Arab nation on Hajj , they have black and Chinese muslims so yes they are multiracial but they want annihilate their local culture and replace it with Arab culture . Christianity is in decline in its strongholds in the West because of the mistrust between the sangat and the church , the roman catholics abuse scandals keep coming and the coverups keep being uncovered horrifying and disgusting the sangat ...so many new converts to sikhi have come from catholic backgrounds . Jatts don't believe other are sikhs ? what? I am of that ancestry but I embrace all as my brothers and sisters unless they are doing beadbhi of My Guru ji, you admit you are of the same ancestry so do YOU believe they are not ??? Don't generalise about such a major issue because you are doing the harm of disunity by spreading such BS . In India the misbehaviour of not letting sangat in or accepting their Degh has been denounced in the Sarbat Khalsa and it has been announced that no gurdwara around the globe should discriminate on any basis least of all janam. Mate if you have a problem with the rehit that Guru Pita ji laid down for us that is between you and Him ,but you cannot disobey your Guru on every turn and then say I believe in and serve Him so call me a sikh. That is being a hypocrite something sikhs are supposed to avoid like the plague... Sikhi is perfect because it came from a perfect Guru, Akal Purakh ... Sikhi is never in danger but the number of humans who want to live and use the label Sikh are not willing to put in the love and effort seem to be lowering in the Punjab . Worldwide sikhs are springing up in different countries all the time and ARE willing to learn something and bring it into their lives even if it's harder for them the reward being so great , which is the opposite attiude to 'modern' sikhs they want to change sikhi to suit themselves. Negative posts about the government is because the situations they have created are negative , to say different is to lie ... you can do the fingers in the ears, eyes closed lalala-ing as much as you want , 30 years of Badal has brought Punjab's future to destruction, the repeated looting of the golak and gurdwara land , the non-pursual of water rights has lead to the current life-death struggle , yes there is no untainted potable water thus the populace are being poisoned by thing that's supposed to keep them alive . Just because fights have been staged (30 year anniversary of blue star comes to mind) and splashed everywhere in MSM so many times to defame sikhs doesn't mean it is true reflection of the situation . The reason for fights in western gurdwarey is the committee system , people who have zero knowledge or sikh rehit are being put in charge of gurdwarey and then tell granthis ,speakers, kathavachiks, kirtaniyas to not talk against daru, drugs , about taking amrit , becoming guru wale . because they want to be left in peace to rip off the golak for their own use . As soon as we return to Punj piare system or even Sabarah system where rehitvaan gursikhs are responsible to make sure the Gurdwara becomes a dharamshala, akharda, again. EDucated sikhs: just what do mean people who have worldly gian only ? If they are not intelligent enough to work out that the message is Gurbani and spreading its love is the job, and not willing to work to that end what good is that 'education' . If lok lajja is making you guys abandon your gurdwarey , your rehit and Guru ji then I feel sad for you.

sikh channel seem to be running a character assasination of brown sikhs lately ...they gave the news about this NEW AGE music group Yoga background LP winning an award and added something along the lines that they are better sikhs because of this ...WTH? then you got others chiming in to say yep gorey sikhs are more holy, better sikhs than desi ones . Sorry but the lack of self-worth and brainwashedness is embarassing . Many sikhs of every hue are better sikhs of the past , present and future than these dress-up guys who believe all desi sikhs are impure , ignorant , that believe Yogi Harbahajan's interpretations of sikhi (milgoba of new age, yoga, sikhi) rather than the actual Gurbani. Many dress in bana but have not had Amrit , carry on suspect behaviour (tantric yoga vids, hom havan rituals, bhut pooja) and yet claim sikhi e.g. Leo di Caprio's stepmum. Frankly I suspect that the main reason they did so well was who was backing them (South park music director) , otherwise there are thousands of Gursikhs producing massive output of high quality which also people appreciate but never get awards except in India perhaps Stop putting people on pedestals just of their colour , even just because of their worldy achievements that is nothing compared to achieving in the dharmic field : sewa, simran and Kirtan.

positive contribution ? bro please tell us what special thing Mann has done for anyone himself ... the things I talked about are his personal responsibility nothing about he predcessors I don't care to go that far back when the problem is in front of me . No spine , no ethics , prepared to encourage sharabi culture then a couple of years when he can feel the seachange politically then hai hai ki hoya mera Punjab nu .... really if you believe he or his ilk give two pence for sikh kaum. punjab's problems you are deluded . Very few i.e. count them on one hand actually have done anything close to make a real difference

like I said loads of fault finding not one solution, not one finger lifted against the corrupt politicians and their gunda police too scared of going into thane.

yeah yeah we all are ...made me smile anyhoo

OK My family and my cousin's family , Mum's cousins parivars used to go , this was when I was a little one , I even did langar sewa on the inaugaral day at Calderwood ...And the thing about jatts was my folks' observations and my noticing the main families that switched ... sorry if it is not full disclosure but I was hardly of an age to become a member myself and I was not there for politics . We are from a Jatt background as were a major group of the sangat that switched , yes there were some tarkans as far as my Mum mentioned once or twice . But I have love for both Gurdwarey as they are part of my childhood.

not ironic but telling ...he is not humdard of sikhs , just another leech of the kaum's youths' blood

good at pointing the finger and yet no solutions , no sense of hypocrisy , masti baba da chela sang plenty of daru songs , smokes himself , is not a sikh , didn't marry a punjabi girl (sindhi) so aint no point . Empty man, empty song throwing blame on Mums but where's the Dads role in this? I hate all these Tawaifs who sell themselves to the highest bidder. Anyone who is mates with KPS Gill is the enemy of the sikhs and the punjabis .

problem is it's a dilemma they want an educated DIL so she can work and earn to support them and her family and yet disparage her for having an education as if learning is a curse. If you want traditional values then get an educated DIL , educated in Gurmat, Gur Itihass, Gurbani Santhiya, Kirtan , if she's been doing that studying hardly likely she's gonna have time or inclination to be bad .

My lot speak more Punjabi than Portuguese , what little portuguese they have is learnt from myself as their Dad wasn't bothered and I knew I was getting the blame for their lack of understanding. Eldest studied Mandarin because he disliked French so much , twins studied Spanish at school. I have schoolgirl German, French and Spanish but can understand most romance languages because I use compare and contrast to link vocab across languages .

there are two Gurdwarey in woolwich , the original one was a Ramgarhia Sikh Association (I used go as a kid from hackney) then the Jatts being so proud bought the church to do up as a seperate gurdwara thus the colloquial reference ...I don't believe in all that jatt nonsense . BTW Woolwich have a problem with bazurg and gurdwarey being attacked ...

well the bibi above had mentioned she was given counselling by the police and social services but it didn't help as much as talking to apne under SAS umbrella. Veer ji has mentioned there is definitely a spectrum , both in the types of girls and their reactions to being rescued (some are violent towards him because they are so brainwashed and under the influence of drugs) so he tailors his approach

They are doing aarti of Gurbani ...surely this is satkar of gurbani nothing more or less . Hindu married women do aarti of their husbands , surely we can do the same of our true husband Akal Purakh , anybody would think that any ancient sign of satkar is owned by 'hindus' but it is not ... gurbani tells us that to do dandaut is a punn ...where are these bewakoof people getting their sikhia from Gurbani or missionary bulletins ? next they will be criticising doing matha tekna because the islamic bros do that ... they seriously need to get nam japping and kirtan singing instead of wasting people's time

I think that is the main reason that Guru ji rejected celibacy as a pathway , because they said it plain Kaam will NEVER be conquered that way . Plus Guru ji also explodes the whole danda of the brahmins and imams who trick the general population . Sikhi does NOT have priests , traditionally every gursikh was trained to be able to read larivaar so they could do their sehaj paat themselves so this whole substantard celibate granthi scene is a product of our own laxness.