MisterrSingh

RSS are hit-and-run, small-scale non entities. ISIS are lethal. Although, to make inroads into Indian territory they wouldn't be able to walk in unchecked. Terror through bombings or mass shootings would be the first course of action. But, as always, it'll be the harmless man on the street who'll get caught in the crossfire. The last time i went to India many moons ago i saw an absolutely beautiful cow at the side of a busy road. Its coat was brilliant white and it was quite majestic in appearance, i.ee it wasn't weedy or malnourished. But the poor creature was nosing around in a rubbish heap, and each leg up to its knees was caked in shite. It was a sad thing to see. I imagine that would cause some issues for its skin if not removed.

I can guarantee you that the recently formed Al-Qaeda of India (and other organisations in that part of the world) will have taken note of this horrible event, and will use it to fuel any potential retribution against Indians. These idiotic, backwards Hindu villagers have committed a grave mistake that might have far-reaching consequences.

The Quran, the Haddith, and general Islamic law suggest it is you that's incorrect. Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should generally be truthful to each other, unless the purpose of lying is to "smooth over differences." There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, taqiyya and kitman. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them." Muslims are allowed to lie to unbelievers in order to defeat them. The two forms are: Taqiyya - Saying something that isn't true. Kitman - Lying by omission. An example would be when Muslim apologists quote only a fragment of verse 5:32 (that if anyone kills "it shall be as if he had killed all mankind") while neglecting to mention that the rest of the verse (and the next) mandate murder in undefined cases of "corruption" and "mischief." There is more. So either the above is wrong, not in the "correct context", or whichever other way it can be spun. OR you yourself are indulging in a spot of taqqiya. I clearly recall you mentioning a few weeks ago that you'd relinquished all ties to Islam and had become an atheist. So, what exactly are your so-called Sikh friends trying to understand about your way of life when that particular way of life is devoid of Islam? In that case surely they're trying to learn about atheism in context of how it relates to you, an ex-Muslim? So, which is it? Are you a Muslim or an atheist?

I won't be around to see those times if I play my cards right, but God help and protect those who won't be as fortunate. I can appreciate where you're coming from. It doesn't take too much imagination to extroploate current trends and moods and chart them according to how a future society will take shape. But... this is paedophilia for God's sake! What kind of cursed magic will the powers-that-be weave on people that such behaviour becomes commonplace amongst civilised society? How will it even work? Actually, don't answer that I'll offer a possible scenario for when we should become worried: when popular culture such as films and TV and music start pushing that behaviour on the public in an attempt to let it seep into the mass consciousness, to suggest it's normal and should be accepted, that's when alarm bells should ring. But, no, I cannot see it happening soon. Thousands of years of societal norms can't be washed down the drain in a couple of generations like that. I won't say it's impossible, but it will be highly unlikely.

I wouldn't even dignify his tastes by terming it as orientation. It's a sickness, a form of mental illness. There does seem to be a testing of the waters going on, in order to gauge whether society is ready to accept paedophilia into the mainstream. I'm guessing there'll be these attempts every few years to see if people's perceptions change. As I said I can't see any sane society signing off on that kind of behaviour.

I can't see paedophilia being normalised. There's just no way that's going to happen. Most parents would literally kill anyone who approached their kid with those intentions. It would have to be a pretty messed up, brain washed society on its knees that allows it to occur.

There are many indicators that help to differentiate between Sikhs who don't keep rehat and Muslims, from inflection of language, facial features, body language, general demeanour, etc, it's all very basic to spot... if you're looking. My guess those who fall for the kara-wearing non-Sikh do so because they weren't bothered by it in the first place. It's only when the relationship turns sour do we hear the pleas of, "Oh, he was wearing a kara." Yeah right.

How idiotic are some people that they're convinced by a kara as to someone's religious and cultural background? A part of me suspects the kara is just an excuse peddled by people when things turn sour. There's no way Sikhs can be that clueless, no way.

"Gandhi Ji"? Get out of it, lol. Plus, the reviewer who calls Sikh history that's passed down as "guff" isn't my idea of a ringing endorsement. Regardless, I'll be getting Khushwant Singh's Sikh history volumes because I'd like a scholarly view on Sikh history from a sociological perspective, because unfortunately the gianis and parcharaks fail to provide such information. It's not their job tbf, but a little awareness on that front would be cool.

Thankfully, I feel a lot better I'm not the only one who feels that way. Quite relieved!

For some reason there's always been a bit of a negative perception around Khushwant Singh. Isn't he anti-Sikh (or at least heavily pro-India?)

Edit: Too much info. Made me sound like a nutjob.lol

Frozen is just... ugh. Mediocre is being kind. Don't be fooled by the sisterly relationship and how it's resolved in the end. There's something dodgy about that film, lol.

Yes, it boils down to trust. Would I be wrong in saying it's impossible to place trust in a Muslim when their holy scriptures advocate lying and paying lip-service when around non-Muslims to win their trust, with one eye on a future scenario where that trust will be betrayed in a scenario that will be used to further the Islamic cause? Is that at all accurate or a myth?

What do you mean?

Curiosity. We're one of the few groups who understand them for what they are based on our bloodied and turbulent history with them (not knocking the decent sorts BTW), although as the years go by this appreciation of their true character is being lost by us.

With parcharaks there's a protracted stage of denial on the part of fanboys, occasionally morphing into visible anger and recriminations, lol. Even evidence that's as clear as day is dismissed as fabrications of the level of "CIA shot Kennedy" proportions, I.E. it's all a conspiracy to undermine Sikh parchar.

Apologies if someone is wondering why I start topics in this section of the site. I don't consider myself an intellectual in any form; too much of a pendu for that, lol. Anyway, are there any books which look at Sikh history in the 20th century in reference to our experiences in India, preferably 1947 to the 1990's? Basically, how we've been treated by the Indian government as a collective, not just individual experiences on a local level? Are there such books?

Oh yes, always put stuff into context if the kid seems to be going in a direction that isn't intended, heh. I would argue she wasn't misbehaving for ishq and stuff, but just to be able to breathe. But culturally in terms of the rules in your home and how you raise you kids it's your decision how you frame the events and lessons of the film. I'd say there's a lot of positives to be taken as a Sikh female from Brave, compared to trash like Frozen. Tangled is OK, but the kesh angle - although not obviously designed to be anti-Gurmat, lol - could undermine parental efforts on the kesh front. I was ill when I watched Tangled for the first time, and when she cuts her kesh at the end I threw my slipper at the telly in anger, lol. I wasn't all there!

The kara thing is becoming a fashion item for some non-Sikhs who aren't bothered about grooming or converting Sikh girls. Like how white people wear those Arabian desert scarf things that Yasser Arafat use to wear, lol? Those are cool, but they're associated with Islamic culture, so any non Muslim that does wear one looks like silly, lol.

Bhenji, I think you may have slightly misread Brave. Yep, on the surface the main female character (Merida) does play up to the classic teen rebellion routine, but that's just surface dressing, and it's kind of to be expected when western film-makers are behind it because that's what they perceive to be true. But I think you're judging the film entirely through a Punjabi lense which is not quite fair. The central premise of the film - and it's a unique one in as much as a mainstream animated film bypassing romance between guy vs girl - is the mother/daughter relationship. That's not social programming; that's the way things are between two headstrong personalities all over the world. After all, Merida is still a child, and it shows in how she isn't ready to take on her responsibilities her mum wants her to. She actually does step up to the plate later when the spell takes hold of her mum, and in those moments we see the mother realise her daughter isn't bad or rebellious for the sake of it. Anyway, I would think Merida displays many desirable Singhni-type attributes that any Gursikh mother would be pleased to pass down to her child. She's fearless, active, smart, yet respectful of her father - even if he is the bumbling type. She's unswayed by the male suitors of the various clans that arrive to win her hand in betrothal; that's quite rare in these films where there's always a munda/kuri angle. In the end after her ordeals she begins to see things from her mum's perspective in a way. I'd say that's pretty great as a message for young girls. The one film I'd avoid if I was bringing up my kids in a Gurmat manner would be Tangled. Girl trapped in a literal and figurative prison because of her kesh? In the end she cuts her kesh for a guy, loses her magic abilities, but the guy is safe because of her sacrifice, lmao? That's messed up as a Sikh, lol!

Spirited Away is genius. Works on so many levels. It helps to have a slight knowledge of Shinto culture if wishing to detect those deeper meanings. If not, fine, it works as an animated film on the strength of its story. The best Hollywood animated feature to emerge in the past decade is the first How To Train Your Dragon film.

Lack of organisation and incredible naïveté. They can't be so cluless as to not realise Badal will not just sit back and let Sarbat Khalsa convene without any attempts to disrupt proceedings. Announcing it nearly 2 months beforehand... madness.

Oh, you mean Disney TV like those shows like Hannah Montana, etc? Well, I've always found those particular Americanisation to be very annoying, more so for those of us who are exposed to the grounded realism of life in places like the UK. Young kids speaking and behaving in a manner that's way beyond their mental and physical means, as well as the hyper-attention to image, in terms of hair, make-up, fashionable clothes, etc. That's before we've even arrived at the values being espoused by the characters in these programmes. On the surface it's all, "Be true to yourself" or "Friends are important" mostly agreeable sentiments, but viewed through the surrounding framework of incredibly attractive, sexualised young people playing at being grown-ups, even those apparently admirable life lessons ring hollow.