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F**k knows, it may well have been that? All I remember was that lots of people were there, and someone dunked my head under the water for ages, I thought I was going to drown and die. They're dark mfs like that in my pind.

So Aulakh pendu came here, fassa'd a women raised over here. Had two kids. Allegedly abused her, and then had her killed when she wanted a divorce. And he comes from a 'powerful' family. What I want to know is: why kill her, why didn't he just divorce her?

My pind had one more than 40 years ago.

I don't. I see them as under developed pendus, whose sociopathy (i.e. inherent dishonesty and self-centeredness) gives them an edge. They are rarely whole rounded humans. I've been around them a lot. I know Panjabi vocabulary that the average pendu from back home doesn't (and I taught myself). So, I don't feel inferior there. You know most desi blokes (especially from depths of Doaba) consider much of the Sikhi related stuff we talk about here as irrelevant bollox, so i know I have more knowledge and interest in it than them. I'll tell whitey and his momma to go f**k themselves if I need too, so I don't feel like I'm excessively 'westernised'. Sure, growing up here has shaped me and made me different to a pendu, but I've spend a large part of my life exploring my Sikh culture and it has had an effect on my mentality and psyche to make me different to some average, dimwitted, football fan apna.

Family's fury over the machete killers jailed for life – then set free: Husband and hitman bombard grieving relatives with death threats from India after being deported from Britain Harpreet Aulakh, 43, and Sher Singh, 30, walked out of jail in the city of Amritsar Their freedom let them harass UK-based relatives of the victim Geeta Aulakh, 28 Aulakh threatened murdered wife Geeta's sister Anita Shinh if she came to India The pair were deported to India and were granted early release just months later Two murderers deported from Britain to serve their life sentences in India were released months after their arrival in a staggering breach of the prisoner transfer agreement between the two countries. Harpreet Aulakh, 43, and Sher Singh, 30, were able to hold celebratory parties and fire guns soon after walking out of jail in the city of Amritsar. Their freedom allowed them to harass the UK-based relatives of their victim by repeatedly phoning them and sending death threats via social media. Aulakh threatened his murdered wife Geeta's sister Anita Shinh, saying: 'When you come to India, I will kill you.' He was jailed for life and ordered to serve a minimum of 28 years after being found guilty at the Old Bailey of masterminding the murder of Mrs Aulakh, 28, in 2009. Harpreet Aulakh (pictured), 43, and Sher Singh, 30, were able to hold celebratory parties and fire guns soon after walking out of jail in the city of Amritsar Aulakh paid Singh – who was jailed for life with a minimum of 22 years – £5,000 to kill his wife after she asked him for a divorce. Mrs Aulakh, who suffered domestic violence during their ten-year marriage, was butchered in the street with a 14in machete as she went to collect their two sons from a childminder in Greenford, west London. After the trial, Judge David Paget said: 'It is difficult to think of a more vicious and brutal way of killing anybody.' Aulakh and Singh, Indian nationals who had entered Britain illegally, started their life sentences in December 2010. Eight years later, they were deported to India under a prisoner transfer scheme and were expected to serve the rest of their sentences behind bars. Aulakh had 20 years left and Singh 14 before they were eligible for parole. Aulak was jailed for life and ordered to serve a minimum of 28 years after being found guilty at the Old Bailey of masterminding the murder of his wife Geeta Aulakh (pictured), 28, in 2009 But astonishingly, the pair were granted early release months later and celebrated by holding parties with large groups of men. They documented their freedom on Facebook, proudly posing with grinning friends. In one video, Aulakh is seen firing two shots from a pistol into the sky at an open-air party. And a photo shows him with his hands on his hips next to a marijuana field. Days after his release, he used Facebook to harass his two teenage sons, whom he has been banned from contacting. Taunting his victim's sister over his release from jail, Aulakh wrote: 'What about getting life? You know what I mean.' Mrs Shinh, a long-haul flight attendant who lives in west London, said: 'He is laughing at me because he has walked free, even though an Old Bailey judge put him in jail for a minimum of 28 years. 'What was the point in spending all that money on a trial and keeping them in a maximum-security prison in Britain, for them to walk free in India as soon as they arrive? 'I'll never get my sister back, but knowing that her killers are out many years too early makes it much worse.' Mrs Shinh, 41, complained to the Ministry of Justice and after initial scepticism, civil servants were shocked to discover the truth. She received a letter from Justice Secretary Robert Buckland apologising for the 'deep distress caused by the early release' of the pair. He said he had raised the matter with Indian government officials and had been assured the pair had been returned Aulakh paid Singh (pictured,– who was jailed for life with a minimum of 22 years, £5,000 to kill his wife after she asked him for a divorce In the letter, Mr Buckland said steps were being taken to ensure the killers serve the rest of their sentence in full. While the pair are understood to have been put back in jail, their experience is likely to be very different from a maximum security prison in the UK. Sources told the Mail it was common for criminals to be granted 'weekend furlough' so they could visit friends and relatives. And a month after Mr Buckland's letter, more videos and pictures of the pair partying outside jail appeared on social media. One showed Singh, 30, posing with what appeared to be an AK-47 assault rifle. And last year, a video emerged of a bare-chested Aulakh laughing and drinking beer with Singh at a party. The background clearly shows they are not in a prison. Earlier this year Singh, who had been moved to a jail in western Punjab, escaped when staff allegedly 'turned a blind eye'. Three prison officials were suspended for negligence. Singh is still at large. Their freedom allowed them to harass UK-based relatives of their victim. Aulakh threatened his wife Geeta's sister Anita Shinh (pictured with her parents Lakhwinder and Nardesh) Yesterday Indian officials assured their British counterparts that Aulakh is now in jail. But multiple sources told the Mail he only has to sign in at the prison each day before being allowed to move freely in society. 'Aulakh is well connected in Punjab and has a powerful uncle,' a source said. 'Everyone has a price in India and he will have paid people off to enjoy his freedom.' Mrs Shinh said: 'These men are still out. I have the threats to prove it. Do I wait for Aulakh to get a fake passport, come over to England and kill us all off before anyone believes me? 'He and Singh slipped into Britain illegally the first time round, so there is no reason they couldn't do it again.' She added: 'The UK Government is sending back murderers, allowing them to walk free.' A source close to the original investigation that brought the killers to justice said: 'It's shameful that it was allowed to happen. 'I feel disappointed for the family. They expect to see justice served for the full length of the sentences and they haven't got that.' A Government spokesman said: 'These reports are extremely concerning and we have raised this as a matter of urgency with the Indian authorities.' The Indian justice department did not respond to requests for a comment. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9978861/Husband-hitman-bombard-grieving-relatives-death-threats-India.html

I think it's also going to spread through everyday people who have a deep connection to Sikh culture (not Panjabi culture!). I think these people will be refreshing for the world. And by this I mean by their openness/ honesty but also guile, strength and bravery. Those things are inspiring to people.

I remember hearing about some pardaan in Southall Gurdwara, collecting a bunch of funds to buy a tank for the K'stan movement. He took a massive amount of Gurdwara funds and then just disappeared with the money, this was in the 80s! lol Rural apnay have this herd like mentality, and if they have some event or cause, they don't want to look cheap because they feel it shows on their reputation, so they make a show of contributing, to prove they are 'down for the cause'. What I'd want to know is, what is the SGPC/Akali Dal doing about the shaheed families? They aren't short of funds. I'd have thought even those lowlifes would have sorted out the families, even if for the wrong reasons i.e. to make a show of their 'religiosity'. But that just shows you what we've been talking about regarding desi mentality - they happily give out whiskey for votes but leave these families hanging. And all of the desi folk just tolerate it. And then you wonder why some of us (who would love a Sikh country!) think the idea of K'stan is ridiculous given these characteristics (which are pretty much norms) in the panth right now.

I thought Canadian Sikhs were too 'gangsta' to let this happen?

You know what I think it is? I think being raised in Panjab very often makes you a sociopath i.e. a natural liar, who gets off on deceiving (most often their own) people and making fools out of them. It's natural behaviour for them. You can tell with the way desis, more often than not, try and con their own relatives out of land. It's like a choreaan da culture as a norm over there. You can tell by the way many desi people's eyes are that they have a ਚੋਰਾਂ ਦਾ ਨਜ਼ਰ. Whereas some of us in the diaspora grow up around a lot of other communities that are not like us. Some of these communities appear to be more united than us and support each other. They have movements within to try and bring their own societies up, and to compete with others (mainly competing with goray). This seems attractive and some of us wish to uplift our own community in this way, especially as they often look like underdeveloped, backwards country bumpkin yokels to us - which is cringe worthy. But I do think you are right, we should think twice about giving any f**k about desis, because if the ball was on the other foot, they'd probably stand around and watch us die with no problem. And then do some gay bhangra going 'bwaaaaah! bwaaaah'! Like this c**t: Bottom line: We care too much, whereas desis (especially rural juts) don't care about about anything other than money. And this has been said in a room full of desi jut 'builders' in front of me recently, and not one single jut disagreed. So any butt hurt pendus can bite their lip.

That's my point.

You were pretty sure palit puttar Zorowar Singh was false too, so I'd take your opinion on these types of matters with a pinch of loon.

Two neo-Nazis, 16, who wanted to 'bomb London because it isn't English' and ran extremist right-wing group on Telegram after going down a 'twisted rabbit hole' in lockdown are spared jail Boy A, 16, admitted founding extremist right-wing group called The British Hand In one post he told members he was planning an attack 'against the Dover coast' Group included second 16-year-old who admitted sharing extremist propaganda Court heard they had gone down 'twisted rabbit hole' during Covid-19 lockdown Both teens were spared custody after admitting terrorist offences at court today with magistrate saying he changed his mind at 11pm the night before hearing https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9973749/Two-neo-Nazis-16-wanted-bomb-London-isnt-English-spared-jail.html

That's how pendu stupid apnay are. If they understood Dasam bani in the colonial period they would've given correct expositions of it instead of disowning it or getting shankas over it. Now f**k knows what 'Indian agencies' are doing? Bottom line is Sikhs need to stop bhangra paaing like gandus, and sucking off people like Jazzy B and Moosewala and make the effort to analyse their own texts intelligently and correctly. No use crying about people making fudhoos out of fudhoos.

I think you're wrong, it was the angreez that alienated the panth from Dasam bani.

Let's keep it real. The man was so awesome even some sullay zamindaars flocked to his standard to fight mogs.

I'll do better. Here's the book: https://sikhbookclub.com/Book/Rajasthani-Documents-On-Banda-Singh-Bahadur-By-Dr.-Balwant-Singh-Dhillon

Hanuman Natak was part of the indigenous education system before goray invaded.

I think our whole perspective of Banda Singh has been coloured by the contemporary sources we've been compelled to use for his history i.e. Persian. They are full of derogatory comments about him and Singhs in general. Recently Balwant Singh Dhillon published English translations of contemporary Rajastani sources that were unknown to the panth before. These do not have all the derogatory comments. I think he was a great leader and set the precedent for taking on and defeating larger, better equipped moghul forces in full scale battles.

I notice the younger lot are like silent mice when it comes to talking about racism.

Why don't we use them like they were intended first???

@jkvlondon You should face up to it. That fuddhu stereotype that's pushed out there has antecedents with the actions of some of our own......

It's probably just some sweaty, morbidly obese sad case in his momma's basement. lol

It's obvious Guru ji gave us these texts to study and peruse and learn from.

I think he came around in the end. We should also understand the source of the shanka on Dasam bani - the colonial period. The literature produced in that time still has an enduring effect on the minds of many apnay (even if indirectly). We should understand that these may not be very mentally strong people who are susceptible to outside influences, and think in binary terms i.e. Dasam bani = Hindooism

Why don't we get scholars on it (as well as ourselves), to study it?