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I could not access sikhsangat on the weekend, was there an outage? I did not see any announcement made?

I don't read Suraj Prakash, but I do listen to katha. So does it have to be reading, or can it be listening as well? I am also doing a really slow sehaj paat of Guru Granth Sahib on my mobile, sometimes I take long gaps before I commence.

1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:

PS - It's on Amazon not Netflix or Metflix (though it should be on Metflix!) 

so people will try to search for it on netflix, then they will read this thread instead before discovering it's an Amazon original on Prime video, lol perfect 

2 hours ago, Jacfsing2 said:

I know Naamdharis aren’t proper, but they used to beat people up for killing animals, if you’re trying to say vegetarians are pacifists, that’s not exactly right.

I thought it was just for killing cows, never heard of other animals!

1 hour ago, Redoptics said:

What has being vegetarian got to do with anything? You are not eating meat, the bird is because its natural to the bird, if it bothers you so much get a budgie and feed it bird seeds. 

 

yeh get a budgie, that will show them a real Singh 

On 12/27/2021 at 12:36 AM, Guest Guest Incel said:

Seeing Sikhs adopt much of the viewpoints of either right wing or liberals. And as incels are growing as well as theories of hypergamy,  MGTOW.

can you simplify this? it hurts to read to try and understand this.

11 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

You want to feed rotiya to a hawk?

no, I am actually asking what should vegeterians feed a baaj/hawk without going against their own ethics?

before we take the side of SGPC, read these:

‘They [the S.G.P.C.] are enemies of the true Khalsa form [Budha Dal Akali Nihangs]. Because only after making pledges did they get the Act Bill passed. They [S.G.P.C.] said: “We accept the Gurdwara Act.” [The British replied], “We [British] will pass the Act Bill but the Priests [Udasi Mahants] have made pledges.” ‘’What pledges?” [asked the S.G.P.C.]. [The British replied], “That they would not raise a voice for Khalsa Raj.” They [the S.G.P.C.] said: “This pledge we will also make.” After making this pledge they got the Act Bill passed. Under the jurisdiction of it [the Act] all are S.G.P.C. Gurdwaras. They [the S.G.P.C.] are enslaved by it.’
Akali Nihang Baba Santa Singh, transcript of interview on Vaisakhi 1999

‘Committee [the S.G.P.C.] was made. Its leader was chosen making the Act. He was controlled [by the British]. The Shiromani Committee that was made, the Nihang Singhs of Budha Dal from the beginning did not accept and termed it ‘Sirmuni’ (one with shaved head referring to one who has no shame) Committee. Why? Because it was under the control of the ‘Angrez’ (the British) and it was formed with the signature of the ‘Angrez’. And out of all its donation money, six ‘Anna’ went to the Angrez and they [S.G.P.C.] accepted every Angrez term. That is why in ‘Guru Panth’ you cannot have these committees. In Guru Panth, the Budha Dal is supreme.’
Nihang Baba Ram Singh, transcript of interview on 17-4-1998

44 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

Strict vegetarian Sikhs say Guru Sahib did shikaar for the udhaar(salvation) of animal's soul.

But Baba Gurditta ji was a Sikh and not a Guru.

Why did he do hunting?

and he also became the leader of the Udasi sikhs after Baba Sri Chand passed.

3 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

If they are that strict on not even touching someone dead; how do they justify killing for Dharam? 

oh they are allowed to kill humans in battle, but they cannot touch a dead animal or at least the flesh, because LOGIC... (it may also break their amrit according to them or THEIR specific panj pyaray? emphasis on THEIR)

7 minutes ago, Premi5 said:

Not necessarily. They could still be vegetarian and just do shikaar training.

but would that fit in with their ethics?

I heard some vegeterians aren't even allowed to touch a dead corpse, because it make them ashud or something else (or some other kind of superstition)?

2 minutes ago, Premi5 said:

Fat people blaming something for their lifestyle choices of eating too much and doing no exercise...

I reduced my waist size recently by eating smaller portions, esp in evenings

but you do know a lot of people have vitamin D deficiency these days?

Many years ago I went to my GP to complain about tiredness and fatigue, but they found nothin in my blood test.

Then I went again sometime before the pandemic, this time they looked out for vitamin D and found I had I was deficient. It seems healthcare has become aware of the effect of vitamin D deficiency becoming common in people.

To be honest, I haven't completely got my tiredness under control after taking vitamin D for a few years.

2 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

That's right.

But the vegetarian Sikhs of today are not even ready to touch non veg food. How will they feed the baaz?

I don't think they can without becoming "ashud". 

22 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

I don't see why not. It's not as if the Singh who owns the hawk is sharing the creature's food, is he?

I just hope no-one starts to feed the poor animal last night's rotiya.

so what should they feed the baaj?

4 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

Sikhs hv been keeping baaz from Guru Hargobind Sahib jee's time.

But baaz is a strictly carnivorous.

Can vegetarian Sikhs keep baaz as a pet?

it's not a "pet" though. you cannot keep one as a pet, has to be kept as a hunting animal.

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9 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

No fixed amount. That's why many hv become bhang addicts sadly.

clearly mentions 5 patta maryada in the video you posted here
 

1 hour ago, shastarSingh said:

It is great sin to do mukhbari of Guru Sahib and His Singhs.

 

just learnt a new bachan from Guru Gobind Singh, this time using the Jatt word too:

"eh jatt affreya firda hai
shawtti jee gal wee apni tidd wich nahi pacha sakeya!"

10 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Meh. Channel is good but very little Kirtan crossover. 

I can't find the tracks from the 2000s, will need more research.

there is a Nihang Singh who has a stall somewhere outside, I am trying to remember if it was in the Heritage Walk area or somewhere else. I bought a Sarbloh kara from him, I am sure he will be able to help you with getting a Peshkabz as well.

49 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Bro. I found a digeradoo track saying Vaheguru and went nuts with it. 

The difference with a guitar is you hold and play multiple strings for cords. We don't do that we play one string really. But you could absolutely modify any guitar and use it differently. You'd slide on it and play scales not cords. 

Please find that aussie Kirtan bro. 

I am sure it is Dya Singh Australia, the keertan was from the 2000s, I think I used to hear it on Desi Radio.I think one of the tracks may have been singing dasam bani.

I cannot find the tracks:

I recommend daily Manji Sahib katha for the daily hukamnama

avialiable on various youtube channels.

another one I really like is Bangla Sahib katha, he's a really good kathawachak with a decent command of English as well. Mentions stuff about goray and uk as well now and then.

1 minute ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Your harmonium is no match for a Dilruba or a synth pad. Please use it at home for practice. 

This is what your hamonium looks like in 2021. You make it do anything. 

time to start a movement.... 

1 minute ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Do these referendums even do anything? Even if all the Sikhs in the UK unanimously vote for Khalistan, what will that do?

you can call in and ask them when they come on Panjab Radio. They should be on Panjab Radio this week due to the referendum voting happening.

7 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

We would be far better off using stringed insturments, even improvised insturments and synth pads than harmonium. It's a teaching and practice insturment whos sound is outdated and not optimal. 

 

yeh I want to see more improvised instruments and synth pads. I also want to see electric guitars, I think they can make a somewhat similar sound to some stringed instruments. I used to hear some keertan on the radio from Australia and he used to use electric guitars and didgeridoos, I don't think it was in Raag but it was pretty good!  Lastly, I would love to see an electric guitar played at rehnsbai uploaded on youtube for us to watch.  

Lastly, why can't we have DJs performing keertan. Since we already use an archaic instrument imported by the British called the hamronium, then DJ keertan is not beadbi at all since most sikhs have forsaken Gurus' instruments anyways! I think there's quite a few Singhs or sardars who are DJs for punjabi functions, and DJ'ing has become a regular part of the punjabi culture. So why not present keertan in a way modern punjabis and modern sikhs are used to music, instead of using the out-o-f-date and out-of-place harmonium - it's not exactly like sangat and gurdwaras are bothering to try to preserve Gurudev's instuments anyway?