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this is why we shouldn't cut our hair. we should keep our turbans and have annakh, then we don't get bullied. Then the bullies don't dare flick things like cheese at us!

lol definitely not pork if halal, probably halal lamb.

Also the girls (and boys) would have less ex partners before marriage, yeuch.

'Drink the immortal nectar and upon joining the Khalsa fold go hunting. Continually seek to perfect your use of weapons. Perform 'Jhatka' and eat goats. Do not even go near Halal meat.' -'Sri Gur Panth Prakash', Ratan Singh Bhangu, pg. 110. lol not actively!!!

of course. But I reckon the east african sikhs brought this trend in more strongly. The fathers and grandfathers had colonial british raj army soldier obeying fixofied beards and the sons in an imitation of this had trim or tramline beards. It has spread to everyone else now as well. And something super strange is happening. now sikh boys in uk and india are copying the hipster look. So now they are GROWING their beards but still keeping a haircut with no turban. WHAT KIND OF RIDICULOUSNESS IS THIS????

You should listen to Aasa dii vaar: ਮਃ ੧ ॥ मः १ ॥ Mėhlā 1. First Mehl: ਮਾਣਸ ਖਾਣੇ ਕਰਹਿ ਨਿਵਾਜ ॥ माणस खाणे करहि निवाज ॥ Māṇas kẖāṇe karahi nivāj. The man-eaters say their prayers. ਛੁਰੀ ਵਗਾਇਨਿ ਤਿਨ ਗਲਿ ਤਾਗ ॥ छुरी वगाइनि तिन गलि ताग ॥ Cẖẖurī vagā▫in ṯin gal ṯāg. Those who wield the knife wear the sacred thread around their necks. ਤਿਨ ਘਰਿ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਣ ਪੂਰਹਿ ਨਾਦ ॥ तिन घरि ब्रहमण पूरहि नाद ॥ Ŧin gẖar barahmaṇ pūrėh nāḏ. In their homes, the Brahmins sound the conch. ਉਨ੍ਹ੍ਹਾ ਭਿ ਆਵਹਿ ਓਈ ਸਾਦ ॥ उन्हा भि आवहि ओई साद ॥ Unĥā bẖė āvahi o▫ī sāḏ. They too have the same taste. ਕੂੜੀ ਰਾਸਿ ਕੂੜਾ ਵਾਪਾਰੁ ॥ कूड़ी रासि कूड़ा वापारु ॥ Kūṛī rās kūṛā vāpār. False is their capital, and false is their trade. ਕੂੜੁ ਬੋਲਿ ਕਰਹਿ ਆਹਾਰੁ ॥ कूड़ु बोलि करहि आहारु ॥ Kūṛ bol karahi āhār. Speaking falsehood, they take their food. ਸਰਮ ਧਰਮ ਕਾ ਡੇਰਾ ਦੂਰਿ ॥ सरम धरम का डेरा दूरि ॥ Saram ḏẖaram kā derā ḏūr. The home of modesty and Dharma is far from them. ਨਾਨਕ ਕੂੜੁ ਰਹਿਆ ਭਰਪੂਰਿ ॥ नानक कूड़ु रहिआ भरपूरि ॥ Nānak kūṛ rahi▫ā bẖarpūr. O Nanak, they are totally permeated with falsehood. ਮਥੈ ਟਿਕਾ ਤੇੜਿ ਧੋਤੀ ਕਖਾਈ ॥ मथै टिका तेड़ि धोती कखाई ॥ Mathai tikā ṯeṛ ḏẖoṯī kakẖā▫ī. The sacred marks are on their foreheads, and the saffron loin-cloths are around their waists; ਹਥਿ ਛੁਰੀ ਜਗਤ ਕਾਸਾਈ ॥ हथि छुरी जगत कासाई ॥ Hath cẖẖurī jagaṯ kāsā▫ī. in their hands they hold the knives - they are the butchers of the world! ਨੀਲ ਵਸਤ੍ਰ ਪਹਿਰਿ ਹੋਵਹਿ ਪਰਵਾਣੁ ॥ नील वसत्र पहिरि होवहि परवाणु ॥ Nīl vasṯar pahir hovėh parvāṇ. Wearing blue robes, they seek the approval of the Muslim rulers. ਮਲੇਛ ਧਾਨੁ ਲੇ ਪੂਜਹਿ ਪੁਰਾਣੁ ॥ मलेछ धानु ले पूजहि पुराणु ॥ Malecẖẖ ḏẖān le pūjėh purāṇ. Accepting bread from the Muslim rulers, they still worship the Puraanas. ਅਭਾਖਿਆ ਕਾ ਕੁਠਾ ਬਕਰਾ ਖਾਣਾ ॥ अभाखिआ का कुठा बकरा खाणा ॥ Abẖākẖi▫ā kā kuṯẖā bakrā kẖāṇā. They eat the meat of the goats, killed after the Muslim prayers are read over them, ਚਉਕੇ ਉਪਰਿ ਕਿਸੈ ਨ ਜਾਣਾ ॥ चउके उपरि किसै न जाणा ॥ Cẖa▫uke upar kisai na jāṇā. but they do not allow anyone else to enter their kitchen areas. ਦੇ ਕੈ ਚਉਕਾ ਕਢੀ ਕਾਰ ॥ दे कै चउका कढी कार ॥ Ḏe kai cẖa▫ukā kadẖī kār. They draw lines around them, plastering the ground with cow-dung. ਉਪਰਿ ਆਇ ਬੈਠੇ ਕੂੜਿਆਰ ॥ उपरि आइ बैठे कूड़िआर ॥ Upar ā▫e baiṯẖe kūṛi▫ār. The false come and sit within them. ਮਤੁ ਭਿਟੈ ਵੇ ਮਤੁ ਭਿਟੈ ॥ मतु भिटै वे मतु भिटै ॥ Maṯ bẖitai ve maṯ bẖitai. They cry out, "Do not touch our food, ਇਹੁ ਅੰਨੁ ਅਸਾਡਾ ਫਿਟੈ ॥ इहु अंनु असाडा फिटै ॥ Ih ann asādā fitai. this food of ours will be polluted! ਤਨਿ ਫਿਟੈ ਫੇੜ ਕਰੇਨਿ ॥ तनि फिटै फेड़ करेनि ॥ Ŧan fitai feṛ karen. But with their polluted bodies, they commit evil deeds. ਮਨਿ ਜੂਠੈ ਚੁਲੀ ਭਰੇਨਿ ॥ मनि जूठै चुली भरेनि ॥ Man jūṯẖai cẖulī bẖaren. With filthy minds, they try to cleanse their mouths. ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਚੁ ਧਿਆਈਐ ॥ कहु नानक सचु धिआईऐ ॥ Kaho Nānak sacẖ ḏẖi▫ā▫ī▫ai. Says Nanak, meditate on the True Lord. ਸੁਚਿ ਹੋਵੈ ਤਾ ਸਚੁ ਪਾਈਐ ॥੨॥ सुचि होवै ता सचु पाईऐ ॥२॥ Sucẖ hovai ṯā sacẖ pā▫ī▫ai. ||2|| If you are pure, you will obtain the True Lord. ||2|| look when people say you should shave or trim your beard, or cut your hair - then it is preaching is it not? Family members and friends etc...

Need to find the right kind of sangat like Nihang Singhs and other understanding groups. Does sikh council help in these things? I remember when they were asking tweeting everyone to support the sikh manifesto. When I mentioned halal, they seemed to have put it in a footnote somewhere. FOR SHAME!!! I am sandwiched between Slough and Southall areas, I see more sikhs preaching haircuts and shaving than those preaching to keep hair!

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IF they are just going INSIDE mandir then nothing wrong. but obviously they are probably worshipping idols which isn't the way for nirguna pooja. We respect sarguna, but don't do pooja of this sort. The only chandi pooja we do is practising pf sword in sri bhagauti. to worship in standing idol form is useless for us.

I have no problem in judging amrit dharis who don't bother with doing shastar abiyaas on purpose.

In this case, I was talking about how there were still Princely states when India has been independent for a while. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_princely_states_of_British_India_(by_region)

in the case of indian parliament, absolutely. But remember, there we had monarchies as opposed to a monarchy. Or how about a mixed system, democracy and monarchy as well? The way it was before India did the act for disabling the monarchies.

Judging is important. IT is the lack of judging which has got our panth in a lot of trouble.

Going off topic a bit. But if this applied to indian states then the answer would be because democracy has failed over there.

naam japo, kirat karo, wand ke chakko. As long as you're not obsessed with working, and not obsessed with money (these obsessions are actually a problem in many sikh families), then I have no objections.

I wish Khalsa fauj could go there and join with the Yazidis and destroy the ISIS terrorists there.

I wonder about this school. Do they teach gurmat sangeet at this school or just silly harmonium? That's what they taught at Guru Nanak School Hayes, unsure if this still is true. I would love to start a fund for this also.

this is really nice!

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ok, men will now start wearing a mask over their face, followed bye a full veil covering the whole body. then we cannot smell the perfumes. This perfumes give me hayfever and ithcy eyecs, men's perfumes too

incidentally I was reading this thread and there was a discussion on use of sukhnidaan on the last 2 pages. anyway I think it is nonsense that we serve firangh cha tea in gurdwara yet speak negatively of traditional bhang based drinks. Then there's the hypocrisy of using chini (refined sugar) in langar and even prashad. IS amrit dhari following rehat when they use chini, drink firanghi cha and coffee, and eat carb-loaded foods? Please take this question 100% seriously, it's no joke neither sarcasm, especially in the context of putting down traditional sukhnidaan maryada practised by Singhs who actually bother with following bana maryada and dasam bani and also carrying shastar hukam of Guru Sahib. I think those who put Nihangs practising sukhnidaan down are hardly even able to do a 3rd of that!

no not saying that at all. Would actually be good if everyone learnt stuff then just limiting it to amrit dhari Singhs. A good influence overall.

hey you forgot about sikh Philosophy which seems to be used more by american sikhs. I would not say sikhsangat is a success, and some topics are still not allowed which are part of maryada of Gursikh. Also I haven't seen much success from any of these forums in promoting issues effecting British sikhs such as turban hatred from other sikhs and relatives, keeping proper rehit like training with shastar and martial arts, and I am sure this forum at least is not designed for discussing halal meat being served in schools and workplaces etc. The fact that there is no forum which caters for the whole sangat is a big problem. Reddit is ok, but facebooker and instagrammer pendoos aren't going to touch Reddit when they are busy posting shraabi and nangi photos are they?

Do punjabi women wear makeup at home, I mean I am seriously asking this question?

How about Dalip Singh's descendents? lol