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Apne were getting married at stupidly young ages in the past. My great grandmother had my grandfather when she was just 13. There was a time when the life expectancy in India was just 40. Thankfully this is no longer that common but I've read in very backwards parts of Punjab it still occurs. No excuses for it in today's age. And even when it did happen in the past it was between two similar aged people, not a 65 year old an a 9 year old.

The suls have written 'Islam will rule' in large graffiti on a railway bridge right next to Ramgarhia Gurdwara, obviously as an act of provocation and the damn committee have done nothing about it, it's been up there for quite a while. I guess we are a cowardly community now. Lots of infighting but haven't got the bottle to paint over this graffiti. The sign for the same Gurdwara on the main Stoke Poges Lane road has also been deliberately changed to point in the wrong direcrion, no doubt the work of suls again. I remember back in the 90s apne threw a pig's head in a mosque as retaliation for them burning the Nishan Sahib, where has that fighting spirit gone? These damn committee members were smashing each others cars a few years ago over elections so they have thugs in their midsts, so why can't these thugs do anything about this graffiti? Any suggestions on what could be done?

Are you ridiculing him? Just look for a Sighni, most (not all) will have led pure lives

Yes quite a few suls in High Wycombe and Oxford, both of which had grooming gang cases. Do you know much about Osterley and Isleworth? Are they worth exploring?

I think you are safe in Bucks for the time being, but they will try their luck there eventually. Looking back I should have bought in Richings Park but my thoughts about schooling and my family situation at the time meant I bought here.

The outside Slough primary schools might be an option, I will see how the demographics develop in this area in the next few years. I wouldn't want to carry on living here if more and more of them move in. Where do you live if you don't mind me asking.

The outside Slough primary schools might be an option, I will see how the demographics develop in this area in the next few years. I wouldn't want to carry on living here if more and more of them move in. Where do you live if you don't mind me asking.

Yes that's a good idea, I will also see if it's possible to visit some of these schools for open days to check out the demographics. Those IT types really force acedemia on their kids to the detriment of their all round development. I'll also check out some other areas to potentially move to. It sucks because I just bought this house 3 years ago and put a lot of time, effort and money into doing it up thinking I would live here for at least 20 years if not my whole life.

I'm very worried about my 3 year old son. I live in Langley, Slough a nice place generally. In the last 5 years more suls have moved into the area. They are pumping out their usual 3-4 kids and due to that we may not fall into the catchment area for one of the best primary schools in the area. The school have literally told us that higher birth rates is the reason. 10 years ago there was no issue. But then I'm thinking I don't want my son going to such a school if that's what the demographics are going to be, I don't want him to experience the sul menace I did. The school will likely drop in standards as well with more of them. Each time I take him to the local park it's mostly full of sullees with their hordes of kids. I have no idea how they afford to live in this area with one person's salary and that many kids. Every house being sold here is usually to them or South Indian IT workers (who I don't mind). I think most apne my age have left or are leaving the area, it's just their parents left. Slough High Street is a dump full of halal eateries. There are some very good grammar schools here, that is the only thing that might keep me here and my widowed father lives very close. These guys just follow us everywhere and we're always running away from them. What to do? Sell up? I'm thinking maybe go towards Osterley/Isleworth where we outnumber them.

Yes saw this on the news today. Sadly apne are hardly better these days

The arrogance and overconfidence of these suls is something else. I was in Leicester Square yesterday, they had a stall blasting out their prayers and handing out qurans. This is a tourist packed location in Central London, not some sul ghetto. They like to test the waters, prod, prod and the inevitably they get a violent reaction. It's the same the world over.

Having multiple wives does not increase birth rate unless there are more women in a population than men, which in Punjab is not the case as it is one of the regions with the highest levels of female foeticide. If there are 5 men and 5 women and 1 man marries all 5 of the women it just means the other 4 men will not get married. The birth rate remains the same.

RIP, I there is no need to post his picture and name here, I please remove it and let the family mourn in peace.

Yes exactly, how are they making so much money selling phone covers and women's suits. I don't think the previous Punjabi owners of their shops were as well off. I suspect they are up to some wrongdoings. https://chiswickherald.co.uk/organised-crime-group-with-hounslow-ringleader-dismantled-p17812-95.htm I find them to be a halfway house between Punjabi Sikhs and Pakistani Muslims. Like Pakistanis they marry cousins and are also quite prominently involved in harassing/grooming girls, I have heard this from someone who works closely with the police.

Hit the nail on the head again. This is how apne are decorating their houses nowadays, ugly AF in my opinion, Southall has many such properties and they're becoming more common in Slough as well. Another problem is that the roads get full of parked cars because there are so many adults living in one house, sometimes 6! Richings Park is majority apne now, I think it's mostly rich people from Southall. A lot have destroyed character properties into monstrosities like above. But overall it's still a very nice area.

1,000,000% My wife's cousin and even my own neighbour have said they want to move to a more mixed area, i.e. more goreh. I keep telling them that the goreh don't want you there, they don't want to live in a mixed area and I have no problem with that. I've had goreh neighbours twice in my life and I could tell they didn't/don't like having so many South Asians living next to them. As you said, as soon as a few Indians move into an area then more flock there leading to white flight and then the Indians wanting to move again. And you're also right about friends, I've had one Gujarati friend and everyone else has been Sikh. Birds of a feather. I've had many goreh acquaintances but never someone I could call a friend.

It's the circle of life. More of them are getting well off so this will increase, especially as they pump out more children. Apne must be strong and hold on to where we live but we are generally a bunch of goreh followers so we want to move to places where they live but over time that just causes white flight in those areas. I keep explaining to our people that want to move to these gora areas that goreh don't want to live with us, whether it is the working, middle or upper class.

Afghan Sikhs are pleasant enough to deal with in their shops and some can be very friendly, but they're extremely business oriented. They will try their utmost to not let you leave their shop empty handed (non grocery stores). They still practice cousin marriages which I find disgusting and their children are not the most educated as they just focus on their parents business. I find them a bit odd in the sense they will play kirtan in their shops while selling alcohol and meat and their wives will cake themselves in makeup. Still I would much rather go to their shops rather than a sul's.

20-30 years seems about right. This is my 20th year living in the Langley/Upton area and there were a lot of apne already here so you can say we've been here in big numbers for a good 25 years. I've noticed suls coming here in increasing numbers in the past 3 years or so, no one wore kurta pyjamas or Arabic man-skirts here 5 years ago but they're fairly common now. The only Indians moving here now are the Indian IT crowd from South India or Maharashtra, the occasional Sikh family from India who have some money. UK born Sikhs are moving to places like Stoke Poges, Gerrards Cross, Iver. No doubt the suls will follow us there as well. My plan was to stay here until my son finished school at 18 but I'm not sure I'll last that long given the demographic change. Suls pump out 3-4 kids compared to our 2 kids. So they will be the majority in schools in the future. I don't understand how they afford the houses in the first place, their women don't work plus they have extra mouths to feed.

No goreh don't like it. I live in a nicer middle class part of Slough, there has been massive white flight here and in nearby Iver. Let the goreh have their own areas. Ideally we shouldn't even be living here in the first place but South Asians are unable to produce any first world country. It doesn't help that a lot of apne can't let go of their ghetto habits when they move to nicer areas such askeeping rottweilers, blasting bhangra every weekend at some party and letting off fireworks at midnight. Now the suls have started moving here and naturally apne are starting to move out, it's the circle of life here! And who the hell uses the word broad? This isn't 1930s America.

Goreh like living with goreh only, they don't want to live with Indians. Indians don't want to live with Pakistanis. It's just the way it is. The UK is a very segregated place, especially big towns and cities. The best thing is just to live with other apne.

I am a married man with a son you fool. And yes I wouldn't ever take a girl or woman to one of these melas. It was far more family oriented back in the 90s before the hordes of illegals came here.

I saw him at a mela on Sunday in Southall, Sikhi is the last thing on the mind of the vast majority of the crowd. Most of whom were drunk and acting like idiots. No danger of any artist being boycotted unless they swore at the Gurus. Makhan tried the Amritdhari lifestyle and maybe it wasn't for him. It's better that he drinks etc as a mona rather than a Keshdhari Sikh.

It just gives them an excuse to behave as they do in India. I was at a mela yesterday in Southall, the vast majority of the crowd were savages. Mostly illegal single men. They are the worst of our community here. At least the apne who came here from the 60s - 80s came with wives or called them over later. These guys are just drunk perverts who urinate on the street.

It's mostly kaleh and sul who are in the drug dealing business here. However the Afghan Sikhs are definitely involved, using their shops as fronts but they're not the violent type. Southall is mostly a lawless place, people don't follow traffic rules at all and pedestrians are just as bad, just walking into the middle of roads while cars are driving, no one has any patience whatsoever.