intrigued

oh lol

Wdym?

I would say figure out your routine and sort of do a test run by seeing if you are able to do your panj bania every day.

Here's the English version for those that want to read it: https://www.sikhroots.com/literature/books/233-biography-of-sant-baba-nand-singh-ji-nanaksar-english-volume-1/file https://www.sikhroots.com/literature/books/234-biography-of-sant-baba-nand-singh-ji-nanaksar-wale-volume-2-english/file

I wouldn't take it to be literal like God is sitting up in the heavens watching us... ਖਾਲਿਕੁ ਖਲਕ ਖਲਕ ਮਹਿ ਖਾਲਿਕੁ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਸ੍ਰਬ ਠਾਂਈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ The Creation is in the Creator, and the Creator is in the Creation, totally pervading and permeating all places. ||1||Pause|| I think they were all actual beings and not just stories/metaphors though I am confused on if Shiv, Brahma, and Vishnu were created first...can someone explain that?

Thoughts? Im confused now lol http://sttm.co/s/7468/76600 ਚੌਪਈ ॥ CHAUPAI ਪ੍ਰਿਥਮ ਕਾਲ ਜਬ ਕਰਾ ਪਸਾਰਾ ॥ In the beginning when KAL created the world ਓਅੰਕਾਰ ਤੇ ਸ੍ਰਿਸਟ ਉਪਾਰਾ ॥ It was brought into being by Aumkara (the One Lord). ਕਾਲਸੈਣ ਪ੍ਰਿਥਮੈ ਭਇਓ ਭੂਪਾ ॥ Kal sain was the first king ਅਧਿਕ ਅਤੁਲ ਬਲਿ ਰੂਪ ਅਨੂਪਾ ॥੧੦॥ Who was of immeasurable strength and supreme beauty.10. ਕਾਲਕੇਤ ਦੂਸਰ ਭੂਅ ਭਯੋ ॥ Kalket became the second king ਕ੍ਰੂਰ ਬਰਸ ਤੀਸਰ ਜਗ ਠਯੋ ॥ And Kurabaras, the third. ਕਾਲਧੁਜ ਚਤੁਰਥ ਨ੍ਰਿਪ ਸੋਹੈ ॥ Kaldhuj was the fourth kin ਜਿਹ ਤੇ ਭਇਓ ਜਗਤ ਸਭ ਕੋ ਹੈ ॥੧੧॥ From whom the whole world originated. 11. ਸਹਸਰਾਛ ਜਾ ਕੇ ਸੁਭ ਸੋਹੈਂ ॥ ਸਹਸ ਪਾਦ ਜਾ ਕੇ ਤਨ ਮੋ ਹੈਂ ॥ He had a thousand eyes and thousand feet. ਸੇਖਨਾਗ ਪਰ ਸੋਇਬੋ ਕਰੈ ॥ He slept on Sheshanaga ਜਗ ਤਹਿ ਸੇਖਸਾਇ ਉਚਰੈ ॥੧੨॥ Therefore he was called the master of Shesha.12. ਏਕ ਸ੍ਰਵਣ ਤੇ ਮੈਲ ਨਿਕਾਰਾ ॥ Out of the secretion from one of his ears ਤਾ ਤੇ ਮਧੁ ਕੀਟਭ ਤਨ ਧਾਰਾ ॥ Madhu and Kaitabh came into being. ਦੁਤੀਯ ਕਾਨ ਤੇ ਮੈਲੁ ਨਿਕਾਰੀ ॥ And from the secretion of the other ear ਤਾ ਤੇ ਭਈ ਸ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਇਹ ਸਾਰੀ ॥੧੩॥ The whole world materialized.13. ਤਿਨ ਕੋ ਕਾਲ ਬਹੁਰ ਬਧ ਕਰਾ ॥ After some period the Lord killed the demons (Madhu and Kaitabh). ਚਿਕਨ ਤਾਸ ਜਲ ਪਰ ਤਿਰ ਰਹੀ ॥ The greasy substance floated thereon because of that medital (marrow) ਮੇਧਾ ਨਾਮ ਤਬਹਿ ਤੇ ਕਹੀ ॥੧੪॥ The earth was called medha (or medani).14.

How much importance is given to the Devi/Devte in Gurbani? Dasam Patshah says: http://sttm.co/s/7438/76000 ਕੀਟ ਪਤੰਗ ਕੁਰੰਗ ਭੁਜੰਗਮ ਭੂਤ ਭਵਿੱਖ ਭਵਾਨ ਬਨਾਏ ॥ He Created in the past, creates in the present and shall create in the future the beings including insects, moths, deer and snakes. ਦੇਵ ਅਦੇਵ ਖਪੇ ਅਹੰਮੇਵ ਨ ਭੇਵ ਲਖਿਓ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਸਿਉ ਭਰਮਾਏ ॥ The gods and demons have been consumed in ego, but could not know the mystery of the Lord, being engrossed in delusion. ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਕਤੇਬ ਕੁਰਾਨ ਹਸੇਬ ਥਕੇ ਕਰ ਹਾਥ ਨ ਆਏ ॥ The Vedas, Puranas, Katebs and the Quran have tired of giving His account, but the Lord could not be comprehended. http://sttm.co/s/7429/75375 ਦੇਹਰਾ ਮਸੀਤ ਸੋਈ ਪੂਜਾ ਔ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਓਈ ਮਾਨਸ ਸਬੈ ਏਕ ਪੈ ਅਨੇਕ ਕੋ ਭ੍ਰਮਾਉ ਹੈ ॥ The temple and the mosque are the same, there is no difference between a Hindu worship and Muslim prayer all the human beings are the same, but the illusion is of various types. ਦੇਵਤਾ ਅਦੇਵ ਜੱਛ ਗੰਧ੍ਰਬ ਤੁਰਕ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨਿਆਰੇ ਨਿਆਰੇ ਦੇਸਨ ਕੇ ਭੇਸ ਕੋ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਉ ਹੈ ॥ The gods, demons, Yakshas, Gandharvas, Turks and Hindus… all these are due to the differences of the various garbs of different countries. ਏਕੈ ਨੈਨ ਏਕੈ ਕਾਨ ਏਕੈ ਦੇਹ ਏਕੈ ਬਾਨ ਖਾਕ ਬਾਦ ਆਤਸ ਔ ਆਬ ਕੋ ਰਲਾਉ ਹੈ ॥ The eyes are the same, the ears the same, the bodies are the same and the habits are the same, all the creation is the amalgam of earth, air, fire and water. ਅਲਹ ਅਭੇਖ ਸੋਈ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਔ ਕੁਰਾਨ ਓਈ ਏਕ ਹੀ ਸਰੂਪ ਸਭੈ ਏਕ ਹੀ ਬਨਾਉ ਹੈ ॥੧੬॥੮੬॥ Allah of Muslims and Abhekh (Guiseless) of Hindus are the same, the Puranas of Hindus and the holy Quran of the Muslims depict the same reality all have been created in the image of the same Lord and have the same formation. 16.86. http://sttm.co/s/7468/76600 ਸਾਧ ਕਰਮ ਜੇ ਪੁਰਖ ਕਮਾਵੈ ॥ Because of virtuous actions ਨਾਮ ਦੇਵਤਾ ਜਗਤ ਕਹਾਵੈ ॥ A purusha (person) is known as devta (god) ਕੁਕ੍ਰਿਤ ਕਰਮ ਜੇ ਜਗ ਮੈ ਕਰਹੀਂ ॥ And because of evil actions ਨਾਮ ਅਸੁਰ ਤਿਨ ਕੋ ਸਭ ਧਰਹੀਂ ॥੧੫॥ He is known as asura (demon).15. What are your thoughts? Do we give any importance to them?

Thanks a lot ?

Ok ji Just found Anand Sarovar which is 2 volumes about Sant Baba Nand Singh's life....gonna read that and then prob try and buy a hard copy if i can ?

Thank you for the explanation ji...do you know where I can find Anand Chamatkar in a pdf format?

Really interesting stuff! Here's some more info on the Nishan Sahib throughout history - http://dailysikhupdates.com/historical-evidence-of-the-puratan-symbol-on-nishan-sahib-pictures/

Lol im getting downvoted ? If u don't agree with me, please explain your position. I am open to learning and changing my view! ?

https://sikhri.org/people/nikky-guninder-kaur-singh - she's a feminist professor with a lot of western sikh influence

Which is which? I think one is Ek Onkar to Gurprasad and another is Ek Onkar to Nanak Hosee Bhee Sach

The giani ji in my gurdwara has a ek onkar on his hand...i think it was a common thing to get one in the villages

Bajjar kurehit means imo that you need to be extra vigilant of it. Tobacco is also used in ayurvedic medicine. Does that mean it is ok to take knowingly? NO and it's NOT OK to take any other intoxicants knowingly as medicine. That's my point. just because its not a bajjar kurehit doesn't mean there should be any leniency.

Not khanda like the shastar, but the symbol that is associated with Sikhi today...

Anyone know when the khanda first emerged? Also how has it evolved throughout the centuries?

Not necessarily, many of the old school nirmalas wear only white and they aren't influenced by christians

White usually represents purity in a general sense

I haven't but if someone has they should do ardas and if their concience is still bothering them, maybe go to their panj. I don't think there would be a need for pesh if done accidentally...

Sorry veerji...don't have that in the US I have Halls Cough drops instead These are the ingredients: Active Ingredients: Each drop contains Menthol 10 mg. Inactive Ingredients: MENTHO-LYPTUS: carrageenan, flavors, glucose syrup, glycerin, partially hydrogenated cottonseed oil, pectin, soy lecithin, sucrose. CHERRY: blue 2, carrageenan, flavors, glucose syrup, glycerin, partially hydrogenated cottonseed oil, pectin, red 40, soy lecithin, sucrose. HONEY-LEMON: beta carotene, carrageenan, flavors, glucose syrup, glycerin, honey, partially hydrogenated cottonseed oil, pectin, soy lecithin, sucrose. https://www.drugs.com/drp/halls-plus-cough-drops.html

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Veer ji...I am not disagreeing that tobacco is bad Your view: If alcohol is used in medicine, it is ok to ingest it... If tobacco is used in medicine, it is not ok to ingest... My view: If any intoxicant is in medicine, it is best to avoid it... Whether it is a bajjar kurehit or not in rehit maryada, why compromise on it? Also #37 of the 52 hukams by Guru Gobind Singh Ji says to not drink or provide alcoholic drinks. - http://www.discoversikhism.com/sikhism/52_hukams_of_guru_gobind_singh.html