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hmmm thats sad news but I think we should think about previous cases where Sikh youths from different countries made up these stories because of personal circumstances and wanted to cut kesh but had no other way of doing it. Lets see what comes of this case.. and hope for the boys sake its not another case of self-inflicted wound.

one of the websites muslims made trying attack Sikhism and comes from this site http://www.ar-raya.org.uk/ Registered Details Domain name: ar-raya.org.uk Registrant: omar abdullah Trading as: Ar-Raya Prisoners Coalition Registrant type: UK Individual Registrant's address: The registrant is a non-trading individual who has opted to have their address omitted from the WHOIS service. Registrant's agent: Dollamore Ltd t/a StreamlineNet [Tag = STREAMLINENET] URL: http://www.streamline.net Relevant dates: Registered on: 14-Jul-2005 Renewal date: 14-Jul-2007 Registration status: Registered until renewal date. Name servers: ns1.streamlinedns.co.uk ns2.streamlinedns.co.uk WHOIS lookup made at 21:11:00 08-Nov-2006

lol i dunno why muslims keep trying to get Sikhs to convert even though their faith is probably the most corrupt, devious, barbaric and evil minded 2nd next only to satanism. It's about time we made some sites of our own counter attack Islam on various points. I've started work on mine if you need any help with urs let me know I shall be targetting muslims to convert and in particularly for their girls to get a lil bit of re-education :D

Had it not been for the British arrival in the Indian subcontinent I believe the Khalsa Raj would have stretched far into afghanistan and possibily into persia. The afghans/pathans had long conducted raids into Indian kingdoms looting inhabitants of their richs and women. It is only the Sikhs who stood upto them and gave them a taste of the blade during maharajh singhs era that eventually pathans and other afghan tribes were subdued who had to defend afghan land rather than advance onto others. Sikhs captured peshawar, attock and many other afghan lands that today do not feature in the map of afghanistan but pakistan because of this. The British/western historians are very quick to turn a blind eye to the success of Khalsa armies in that region because of their own losses at the hands of the afghans. Many afghans also embraced Sikhism also during Sikh rule. A few muslim historians even who witnessed Sikhs fighting in the battlefield could not help but be impressed such as Qazi Nur Muhammed.

There should be more information on the site on the benefits of using it, like for example their should be a frequently asked questions page, a privacy policy, contact page, etc. Otherwise it looks good but seems a bit dodgy to be honest in regards to personal data being kept on there.

Heres what I find out about the transmitters. Name of Operator: Vodafone Operator Site Ref: 33294 Station Type: Macrocell Height of Antenna: 15.94 Metres Frequency Range: 900 MHz Transmitter Power: 24.15 dBW Maximum licensed power: 32 dBW Type of Transmission: GSM Name of Operator: Vodafone Operator Site Ref: 33294 Station Type: Macrocell Height of Antenna: 15.94 Metres Frequency Range: 2100 MHz Transmitter Power: 26.482 dBW Maximum licensed power: 32 dBW Type of Transmission: UMTS ======================= Name of Operator: O2 Operator Site Ref: 10534 Station Type: Macrocell Height of Antenna: 14 Metres Frequency Range: 900 MHz Transmitter Power: 23 dBW Maximum licensed power: 32 dBW Type of Transmission: GSM Name of Operator: O2 Operator Site Ref: 10534 Station Type: Macrocell Height of Antenna: 14 Metres Frequency Range: 1800 MHz Transmitter Power: 26.5 dBW Maximum licensed power: 32 dBW Type of Transmission: GSM Name of Operator: O2 Operator Site Ref: 10534 Station Type: Macrocell Height of Antenna: 14 Metres Frequency Range: 2100 MHz Transmitter Power: 28.24 dBW Maximum licensed power: 32 dBW Type of Transmission: UMTS My advice would be to boycott the gurdwara until those masts are taken down, I wouldnt risk my health going there how ironic it is when the gurdwara actually should be a place for sanctuary and safety for the community.

Those so called women converts to islam on those websites from sikh background are made up, remember the muslims will use deception to trick and give the perception that alot of people are converting to islam when reality is more educated freedom loving muslims are leaving islam in their droves but do not "come out" for the fact that apostating from Islam would be punishable by death. If you analyse what these so called "reverts" say it always contradictory towards Sikhism showing they do not have knowledge of Sikhism even the average punjabi girl who isnt into religion knows the fundamentals, which these so called "reverts" dont know. The muslims often boast that Islam is fastest growing religion in the world, yeah maybe in birth rate terms but in no way in the number of converts, who are very few in number. If you breed like rats you will have a rat like population lol. When you read about stories about so called sikh converts on islamic sites think of this word "al Taqqiyaa". Thats all you need to know :D

Wasnt there a election or something a few months ago where the youth where urged to stand as candidates and one of the issues raised was the phone masts. So who won the elections and what have they done about the issues at hand? If they havent or will not do anything then people from that area need to organise protests and a boycott so these fools in commitees are shamed into taking action or getting out if they dont want to help the community.

FATEH!! Here are a few pics of the Gurudwara in Mexico. GURU RAKHA!!! Thanks for sharing Fateh Ji

Mexican/Hispanic/Latino Sikhs http://www.tribuneindia.com/2005/20050515/spectrum/main1.htm

I second that, WAHEGURU WAHEGURU WAHEGURU And the brothers who are using profanity in debates with other religions, kindly stop cos it makes you look uneducated no matter how good your arguements/points maybe. If the muslim has come to debate, lets give him a debate, not abuse him. Thanks :D

Well said... that pretty much sums up Islam. When I think of "prophet" muhammad he reminds me of ghengis Khan of mongalia (a conquesting greedy babarian). But I do give muhammad some credit, for had it not been for some of his actions and supposed utterances maybe we would not have had Sikhism today. Just like without christianity and judaism and arab paganism, Islam would not have evolved. Bottom line is Islam as a credible ideology has long past it sell by date, its cleary not fit for modern world which is full of people keen on progressing in scienctific thought and real spirituality away from lustful false promises like bait to lure ones soul to the underworld.

From my understanding when guru sahib talks about hell, angels of death (azarael),etc he is talking metaphorically because at the time the gurus, saints and fakirs were addressing muslims and hindus so the terminology is used to talk to them so that they understand the consequences of their actions in their ideological language. The Sikh position on hell and heaven is all intermixed with the cycle of birth and death. Our hell is what happens in our lives prior this one or next one coming. Or our heaven can be our next stage of the soul if we progress. Law of karma is also involved.. Some people ask what happens to the souls and reincarnation if this planet is destoryed and all life along with it, from what I've read theres millions of galaxies, stars, planets,etc as Guru nanak ji stated so if this planet wont hold life who says other planetary systems wont?

Evolution is a slow process. It doesn't happen over a day for humans. Provide the name and some evidence of the theory. I hardly think this will ever be the case since global warming will not be increasing at the same rate it has in the past simply because we are coming up with alternatives to oil and carbon emission. Even then, the idea that global warming will cause humans to lose a part of the body seems unlikely. Hair are alive and absorb solar energy. the body will have to come up with something else to perform the same task in case hair are lost. If global warming keeps increasing then there will not be another ice age. The requirement is to keep hair uncut/unshorn i.e. not to distort the body or alter the way Waheguru has created us. In such a rare case of losing hair it will be perfectly acceptable way of life in Sikhi since we will not be altering our bodies. Sikhi is a way of life not a rule book of "yes" and "no". Any moral principle cannot simply be "yes" or "no". There are always exceptions. In Sikhi, action and intent both count. If your intentions are not to cut your hair but have to due to medical reasons then I see nothing wrong with it. Medical surgery is not an excuse to committ bajjar kurehat. Your action and intent both are to get yourself treated properly. It comes down to your personal decision. Every case is different. I would see nothing wrong with minor surgery but when life is at stake then I wouldn't go for it. Sikhi is very open and practical way of life. But after treatment one must do pesh and get sudhayee. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh thanks for clearing that up, as for the theory about humans becoming hairless in the future. I heard it on some radio show where a scientist was explaining how evolution due to global warming would phyiscally impact the human body, it wont happen overnight but take years possibly many decades. I will try and find out more info for you. As for no ice age happening thats not true from what I've read. Immediately after global warming has reached its peak, it followed up by a cooling effect leading to the next ice age, that has always been the case for this planet. We are living in a period between ice ages which last for 10,000 years at least.

Me an RSS agent? daam thats the funniest thing I've heard in a long time. Listen bro im gonna give you a choice either embrace Sikhism or let me enlighten you about your Islam so much so that you will cry and beg for me to stop. Then you will try to use al Taqqiyaa, God only knows how many non-mulims you probably have used it on in order for you to stop them investigating your Islam ideology properly and duped into it. Jattworld.com needs to be destoryed as does rajputsikhs.com as does ramghariasikhs.com etc etc. In Sikhism we do note care for caste if we are true Sikhs. You can get all lovely dovely with your "jatt brothers" but when push comes to shove and our ideologies clash you will cast aside your jattness and join your brothers in Islam to fight non-muslims. Its always been that way, history is testimont to that. By the way I have a muslim fiancee or should I say ex-muslim she has long rejected Islam being the educated young woman that she is and now firmly believes in the Sikh take on things. So do yourself a favor and learn about Sikhism and embrace the truth faith of God. If you want a 1 to 1 debate im all up for it pop your msn add in pm and lets roll.

From what I read of dasam Granth it invokes a lot of emotive feelings and tells alot about the writer, it is clearly not wholely written by Guru Sahib but most probably by hindu converts to Sikhism who still held strong views about idol worshipping, women and doing to muslims what they had done to them. I suspect it was corrrupted immediately after the death of Guru Gobind Singh ji during the era of Banda Singh Bahadur who massed alot of destruction (such as the sacking of the town of sirhind) and targetting other enemies/persecutors of Sikhs of the time. Those verses would have attracted many hindus to the cause of fighting who already had an eminity with the muslim oppressors. I've seen a very old battle flag standard of a battlion of the of Khalsa army which had a hindu goddess (probably durga) printed in the middle of it.

Im sure you read a few times how muslims use deception eg islam=peace when it really means submission to the ideology of muhammad Or when they say jihad means struggle within yourself when it actually means holy war against the kafir (non-believer). These are just 2 examples from the top of my head that they decieve to create a false image making out Islam is better than all other religions when in fact when you look into hadiths and the quran and you get the sense of what it really means the muslim will always lie to you to save face even when the truth has slapped them few times around the face they still will defend falsehood. In Arabic the translation would be "hypocrisy in the pursuit of a greater purpose." And this word "al Taqqiyaa" basically gives them religious authorisation to tell lies even if it contradicts what is stated in quran n hadiths.

There is a theory that humans will be virtually hairless due to global warming and climate change which does make sense. And when the next ice age will take effect the hair will be required by mammals and therefore humans will adopt and evolve accordingly. Which brings up an interesting question. What would be the Sikh/Khalsa view on the requirement to keep hair if humans one day are not blessed with it. or lets say those with genetic/medial conditions means they do not have the ablity to have hair, does it make them not a Sikh? or lesser Sikh? or what?

Parnaam Shaheeda Nu Fateh!

There is no excuse to wear veil for a muslim woman in the UK or any western country. It is not a religious requirement its a cultural practise. The hijab or other head and breast covering is required for them NOT the veil. But as a free society everyone is allowed to dress how they want but in current climate where muslims are seen as the enemy within they are further aggrovating the situation by totally seperating themselves from mainstream society. It's fine to wear your religious garbs n that but when you actually wear a face mask or want your woman to wear it cos some next man is perving on her while he is allowed to perv/look at other usually western women. Then it creates barriers and misgivings about the intentions of these people.

I was debating with another brain washed muslim and he said this "but in Quran in al Taqqiyaa it is allowed for us to lie to non muslims to show them the goodness of islam" I've never heard of this term before and I was interested so I rearched what it was all about. And this is what I found. The word "al-Taqiyya" means: "Concealing or disguising one's beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and strategies at a time of eminent danger to save oneself from physical or mental injury." A one-word translation would be"Dissimulation." In Arabic the translation would be "hypocrisy in the pursuit of a greater purpose." So all those claims that muslims will lie to get you to convert to islam and is permissble in islam was true!!!!!

I was debating with another brain washed muslim and he said this "but in Quran in al Taqqiyaa it is allowed for us to lie to non muslims to show them the goodness of islam" I've never heard of this term before and I was interested so I rearched what it was all about. And this is what I found. The word "al-Taqiyya" means: "Concealing or disguising one's beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and strategies at a time of eminent danger to save oneself from physical or mental injury." A one-word translation would be"Dissimulation." In Arabic the translation would be "hypocrisy in the pursuit of a greater purpose." So all those claims that muslims will lie to get you to convert to islam and is permissble in islam was true!!!!!

My understanding of the merging stage is like a tiny spirit merging into bigger powerful soul where you are literally free because in essence you are now part of the supreme conscience being, the almighty creator. You have finally arrived home and achieved eternal bliss/peace. No false devious promises of rivers of wine, 72 virgins for sexual orgies, false images of God sitting on a throne chillaxing with his prophets, etc.

Im gonna get me one and wear it at the annual June protest next year :D hmm not a bad pic either i could use that a msn display pic