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I don't know what you got up to at 17 "true Khalsa" ji, but I like to spend my time with the sangat at the Gurudwara saheb and online as much as I can...Is there written rules that a 17 year old cannot have an opinion in Sikh politics? I'm not on here to prove anything, just learn more; this is a youth forum, I'm 17 , I'm a youth; I have a right to post my views as much as anyone...I don't care how immature your rude 'heshe' remarks are towards me. Why do you make such a big deal in such trivial matters?

ahaha its always an ongoing discussion with that committee!

How do you get to see the tenders?

Not all of the 'fanatics' are bad people though...'terrorists' as you put it. Just cos some people did some inhumane things does not mean we should tar everyone with the same brush. You don't have to be violent to support Khalistan. I don't hate all hindu's for the anti-sikh pogroms. If the Indian Governement did help with the matters in Punjab like the western Gov do...kinda lol, it IS there responsiblity. But the governements are too busy being corrupt to care about infanticide etc. the reason Khalistan is wanted it because the Indian Governement is ineffective. can you prove that Sant Bhindranwale Ji didn anything remotely wrong enough for the Army to go into Harimandir sahib?...with respect

Yeh but I asked if I could help with the slides and they didn't bother coming back to me (by e-mail) and then I asked in person and they just said 'koi nahin' we don't need any help lol

Dancing Warrior I suggest you read this real good book by Cynthia Keppley Mahmood; who wrote about the things that happened before and after Operation Blue Star; its pretty unbiased and she's an anthropologist who made an account of what happened. Its caled 'Fighting for Faith and Nation.'

ahahaha! There's loads of Sikhs in West London but nothing ever gets organised there. I'd say I'll do it but i live in another County without a car; so its a bit dodgy to organise lol. Are there any other Sikhs willing?

That happens at Singh Sabha Gurudwara in Southall as well!

:'( its always up North! Just you wait til I get a car!

LOL: I'm doing homework as I write... fun! have a cupof hot chocolate..that'll take the depression away hehehe

Happy Birthdaaaay bhenji! Hope you have a wickid time!

Yeh I've read it! Real kool. In fact when I think about it people like Schindler and stuff and all those people who do things selflessly are inspirational.

Apart form each of the Guru's; 1. Sant Jarnail Bhinranwale Ji because he was one of the first Gursikhs since Independance that tried to fight oppression and speak his mind without worrying about the Govenment...and he fought to the end in my mind. He did things that hardly anyone else was willing to do at the time..even down to baptising as many people as he possibly could. 2. Mai Bhago; cos she was one of the first women fighters I everheard of..always was under the impression that women had no place in war etc. cos of parents til I read about her :D there are some more like; Bhagat Singh, Martin Luther King; for the same sort or reasons; fighters of oppression.

Thank you, I can't think of anything else on the spot; when they come to me i'll write them :D

lol took the words right out of my mouth...not literally- i know thats what some of you will come up with lol- neways, we need to move on and start looking forwardds instead of always loking back and sort out the problems that 'Dancing Warrior' has highlighted.

Wow this helps a lot, thanks for those bbc sources...a lot more reliable than what's being said on these posts lol...thank you veer/bhenji! I still maintain that; i am neither a supporter of sohi or malhi purely because some the thigs I know they have done...through video footage and first hand experience is inexcusable :D so can people stop accussing me of stupid stuff hehe

lol stuff like the costs of making the new gurudwara sahib and stuff like that; cos there's different views on these matters, but I have heard the 'facts' but not seen the sources?

lol i wear 3 on 1 arm...2 won't come of hehe

ahahahahahaha!

I'm a GIRL, thats right haha, and I prefer free flowing but you shouldn't be too concerned with what us gals think cos you should do it for yourself :D

What are you on? I havent posted in ages, yes I know I can count, i was just tryin to make life easier for the slower people out there.lol I'm really glad there are mature gursikhs like you around Azad maybe you need a hobby instead making fun out of people?

What the heck, you ask me to write mine in english...have you had a look at your own post? Number 1. I have not made any rumours up. Number 2. What is wrong with unity? Number 3. I DO mean well Number 4. You dont know me so I believe you have no right to make remarks about my character. Number 5. I have not made 'blind allegations' Number 6. I dont even personally know Mali and I just about have enough funds to pay for phone credit :D how can i be making money through Mali? Number 7. Can you explain my misconceptions about Khalistan? Number 8. For the 1 billionth time I AM A KAUR!!!!! :'( Number 9. Duality= the state or quality of being two or in two parts. Ok I admit I have written some slighty uneducated answers but I'd just put that down to my immaturity at times however; I am not 2 faced, because I haven't chosen a side and also from what I HAVE seen or heard, it means I have hardly any support for the current committee...just cos you support them , doesn't mean EVERYONE has to does it? Number 10. Please dont call me a serpent leech, it's rude like the other things I have politely asked you not to call me...cos like I said , they're rude. :D

wow I cant believe the same people are still argueing over the same stuff over and over... cant people just get over it, if theres THAT much of a problem; sort it out and stop chattin about it...cos this thread is gettin unnecessarily bigger we cant keep sayin the same things, if it's the truth SORT IT OUT: If you have the facts with the sources it would be good, cos I am young and impressionable haha and I find things confusing cos the counter agruements arent backed by fact, so who do you back? If anyone needs help ; I'm ready lol... just stop accusing and cussing cos its not nice especially to innocent parties. we are mean to be united, if we cant come to a conclusion on this trivial matter, how can we achieve bigger things like Khalistan? I mean really people... *Editted Post- realised what I wrote the first time was quite confusing hehe*

Thats how I wear mine. Exactly like it. :TH: How do you tie dumalla like that? I want mine like Sant Ji!

Do we know when the details about the London vigils are comin?