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cnt wait will be there :D

wikd katha any body knw if there mp3s of these kaths :D

there one this week aswell on the 3rd 3.00pm at Guru Nanak Gurdwara, High St, Smethwick at 3pm. amrit sanchaar both weeks wikd :D

any body got tracks of Acappella Dhadi Jatha recordings wikd dhadi :s ANY one

i woz thinking abt this for many days Y Nitnem is never done at darbar sahib but in every other gurdwara jus been thinking about it anyone knw y thanks sorry if sed anything wrong

doing nindyaa of Great Mahapursh they gonna end up burning in hell waheguru waheguruu sorry if said anything bad but the video they made makes me soo :s

erm one more thing when would the kirtan be uploaded :s

hmm i woz born in uk dads from the pind Harkhowal mum from ludhiana jus cum bk last aug went for a whole month loved it :s

waheguroo well sed

there cn be two programs at the sme time notting wrong abt that and its up to the sangat where they wanan go simple man :s

as parji (dal_singh) sed he ask for maafi that its on the sme day they had no idea give him a break there all ways sum sort of kirtan and there are clashes bound to happen who ever wants to go to sanjha kirtan darbar u go there who ever wants to go to akj rehnsbhai u go there simple hopefully il be at sanjha kirtan darbar :s pul chuk maf

this saroop of guru ji is not there anymore they got a newer saroop of guru sahib

barsi woz wikdddd program off the yearrrrr kirtan katha dhadi everything woz sooooo good

how many want to go just me kool jus turn up at gurdwara before 3 and ask for jaspal singh

i found this web site i think its really gud and tells u about the History of Kabiyo Bach Benti Choupai being shortened its got the full choupi sahib and everything http://www.chaupaisahib.com ikRpw krI hm pr jg mwqw ] gRMQ krw pUrn suB rwqw ] iklibK skl dyh ko hrqw ] dust doiKXn ko CY krqw ]26] sRI AisDuj jb Bey dieAwlw ] pUrn krw gRMQ qqkwlw ] mn bWCq Pl pwvY soeI ] dUK n iqsY ibAwpq koeI ]27] Kripa karee ham par jag maataa. Gra(n)th karaa pooran sabh raataa. Kilbikh sakal deh ko hartaa. Dustt dokhiyan ko chhey kartaa. (26) Sri asidhuj jab bh-ay diyala. Pooran kraa gra(n)th tatkaalaa. Man ba(n)chhat phal pavai soee. Dukh na tisai biaapat koee. (27) The Mother of the world has been kind towards me and I have completed the book this auspicious night; The Lord is the destroyer of all the sins of the body and all the malicious and wicked persons. (26) When Mahakal became kind, He immediately caused me to complete this book; He will obtain the fruit desired by the mind (who will read or listen to this book) and no suffering will occur to him. (27) History of Kabiyo Bach Benti Choupai being shortened The British were the main agents in shortening Choupai Sahib during the British Raj. The British sent a scout to Punjab to ascertain how many troops it would take to conquer the Punjab. The scout returned with an unorthodox report. It was to the effect that it would take all British troops in entire India to defeat the Punjab because the Sikhs have an unhuman bravery derived from their Banis. It was said that the Sikhs were undefeatable because they read Choupai Sahib. Through persistance and corruption the British managed not to directly conquer the Sikhs, but they accomplished something even more devestating. They were able to infiltrate Sikh management and compromise the daily 5 Banis. They were able to shorten Choupai Sahib and take off the last 2 pauris claiming that they are optional. The claim is that "In modern times Sikhs don't have the time to read as many banis as they used to". This argument doesn't seem valid being that the last 2 pauris are only 4 lines and take about 15 seconds to read by a familiar practitioner. The fact is that the last 2 pauris have never been optional until recent history. The British influence went to the extent that big decisions were made in Sikh management authorities, and printing presses. Nowadays, it may be difficult to find a Gutka with the entire Chaupai Sahib, and most Sikhs are not even aware that there are 27 pauris. The British's strategy of 'Divide and Conquer' went further than the shortening of Chaupai Sahib. They made it common practice to abbreviate Anand Sahib during Kirtan Divaan. They also unpopularized Bana. At one point Nihang Singhs were being persecuted by virtue of wearing Bana and "round" turbans. They were perceived as threats to the British infiltration because they were likely to fight back. Anyone wearing Bana and or a round turban would be picked up by British officers and 'taken away'. Another part of the infiltration was the rolling of beards. They made it popular to look western. Rolling the beard became 'smart' and 'professional' looking. Rolling beards had never been practiced in Sikh history until the British Raj. Nihang Singhs used to be a nomadic Gurdwara management group and now they live mostly secluded from mainstream Sikhism and from positions of power. The Dasam Granth used to be in many Gurdwaras (not in place of the SGGS, but in a different space) and now it is mostly seen in Nihang villages and online, not to mention the many debates about its authenticity. Martial aspects of Sikhism have become mostly symbolic in modern times. The overall goal was to make Sikhism as a strictly devotional religion so it would be easier to take control. The one thing that is very striking about this history is for the first time in Sikh history the Banis have been compromised. Until the British Raj, Sikhs had given their lives to preserve every word of the Siri Guru Granth Sahib and the Siri Dasam Granth. There are many Sikh issues today; lack of leadership, terrorism backlash, womens seva issues. Amongst all issues Sikhs could always go to the Shabad Guru knowing that it was exactly how the Gurus wrote it with their own hands. This is one thing that stands out about Choupai Sahib. Every Sikh knows the importance of the Shabad Guru being preserved. Guru Har Rai, who was so gentle that he couldn't even harm a flower, disowned his own son for changing one word of the Adi Granth. Now a full 2 pauris have been taken out of Sikh daily practice. There are ripe complaints amonst Sikhs that the overall Panth is not united, Sikh leaders are corrupt, Sikh youth are leaving their roots, etc. This could be because some of the fundamental practices have been compromised. Bana, Bani, Simran, and Seva were given by Guru Gobind Singh so that Sikhs could have his blessing and his spirit against all odds. Now Bana is mostly out of practice and Bani has been shortened. It is important to note that we are not talking about the rearranging of different sections of Banis, but the cutting off of pauris from one continuous Bani. Lets compare it with Rehiras Sahib. Rehiras Sahib as a whole has been rearranged throughout time and depending on which Jetha is promoting which version. Some Nihang versions are much longer than most versions, but no version ends So Purakh before its 5th pauri. We all know that Tav Prasad Savaiye has 10 pauris and Anand Sahib has 40 pauris. To take off the last 2 pauris of Choupai Sahib could be compared to taking off the last 2 pauris of Japji Sahib; ending at the 36th pauri (instead of the full 38) and then reading the Slok. Even in modern times it is difficult to justify this kind of amendment to Guru Gobind Singhs 5 Banis. http://www.chaupaisahib.com/ Quotes from Sikh Leaders regarding the abbreviated Choupai Sahib Harbhajan Singh Yogi - "One who recites Chaupai without the Arril lives in pain and unhappiness." (Furmaan Khalsa p.235) sorry if made any mistakes plz forgive

so have iiiiiiiiiii no colllage for 3 weeeksss yay hmm i think for 3 weeks lol

how many want to go

errm is there a train station near the gurdwara if yes any one kwn the addrres and hw far it is away from gurdwara sahib

any transport around slough area or even slough any one got number ???

i have forgiven them penji but the pain of it is still there...i guess thats what attachment does 2 u

vaheguroo ji ka khalsa,vaheguroo ji ki fateh! we all get blessed with amrit di daat,even thought we r so unworthy of it. we all make mistakes but its weird aint it, that when someone in our sangat makes a mistake, instead of trying to help that person, we gossip about them,judge them and turn our backs. we r meant to be Khalsa, people r meant 2 come 2 us for help, yet we r the 1st ones 2 judge and turn our backs. Do u think that Dhan Dhan Sahib Sri Guroo Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj would do the same? He forgave cannibals, prosititutes, thieves and murderers. Shouldn't we try 2 do the same? people come 2 us for help and we turn our backs because apparently those people arent children and its their own lives...well the fact is we r all children, and we r all still learning.would dhan dhan sahib sri guroo gobind singh ji maharaj turn his back on anyone?somehow i dont think so srb icMq quJu pwis swDsMgiq hau qkau ] sarab chi(n)th thujh paas saadhhasa(n)gath ho thako || I place all my worries and anxieties before You; I look to the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, for help. those same people who fight for the right for a well known prostitute 2 b allowed in2 a gurdwara turn their back on2 their sister. hmm.. i dont think for a minute that they did the wrong thing in that but these people, they wear guroo sahibs bana, big dhumalley and shastar and walk around like khalsa yet when someone taps them on the shoulder, their little sister, who sees these people as her vaday veers and penjis, as gursikhs and khalsae they turn their backs and they say oh im sorry uve just got 2 many issues and ur messed up and we dont want 2 get involved... a penj of mine recently had this experience and i think that this is something for us all to think about vaheguroo ji ka khalsa,vaheguroo ji ki fateh!

wjkk wjkf the next amrit sanchar i knw off in the UK will be at Brahmgiani Sant Baba Thakur Singh Ji - Barsi 2007 on MONDAY 23TH DEC 1PM AT MILTON KEYNES GURDWARA WJKK WJKF

read more banii and give collage work in on deadlines :TH: might think of sum moree oh yer one more go to sleep on time :D <_<

like the top one yes yes ^^^^^^^^ <_< :D :D

i wanted powerpoints with full Rehraas which has the full chaupaee sahib and everything and nitnem full anyone knw where i cn get these powerpoints from