Really Confused, About To Cut Hair....need Advise

[ajeeet]

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hey everybody, im 13 and i started to keep my hair 3 yrs ago. I didnt have any doubts or regrets until I started thinking about cutting it. I wanted to cut it because even though people say hair is given from God. It is also possible that our hair jus came with evolution, it wasnt something given to us. I kinda agree o the scientific explanation cuz i mean there is total evidence and there is no reason to not beleive it. This isnt the only reason i am cuttin my hair, i live in a school where almost everybody is white/caucasian. I dont get bullied much but people treat me alot differently. I had no girl that was more close to me than a freind after i wore a patka/pugh. i know i shouldnt even be thinkin about that rite now, especially me being a sikh, but its nearly impossible to help it. Everyone has some they care for more than a friend, and ive barely had that. i wish i could see the lighter side of sikhi, i mean i try to understand nitnem when i do it but its so hard to do it 5 times a day. Forgive me for bein week, i need some guidance.

Please someone give me some advise before i do something i regret, like cutting my hair. i would apreciate it a lot.

[Bored]

if ur starting nitnem nnewly, u dont need to start all 5 banis right away, read jap ji sahib and learn the meaning over and over, then eventually start reading 2 banis, and so on.

now about the evolution, simply god made the evolution happen, and along with its the hair came with the evolution.

its all part of gods plan my friend. accept it.

girls rnt gonna get u anywhere. one of the 5 evils; lust, which u need to stay away from if u want to be a gursikh. ur pretty much starting to ignore rules of sikhi, this isnt gonna get u anywhere. now can u say that wat u want to do right now makes u a gursikh?

i can seee ur problem, u need to b more educated with sikhi. sikhs took death over cutting their hair. now days ppl jus need a cheap excuse to cut their hair with no hesitation. simply bcuz they rather impress girls then heir gurus.

u probly heard of the saying:

a man shud never chose a girl(girl friend) over his friend.

as u can see....

u r chosing a girl(lust) over ur father(guru gobind) and over ur dharm(religion).

there was another topic on this recently:

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?showtopic=21612

make a wise decision, take ur time making it.

fateh

[ajeeet]

if ur starting nitnem nnewly, u dont need to start all 5 banis right away, read jap ji sahib and learn the meaning over and over, then eventually start reading 2 banis, and so on.

now about the evolution, simply god made the evolution happen, and along with its the hair came with the evolution.

its all part of gods plan my friend. accept it.

girls rnt gonna get u anywhere. one of the 5 evils; lust, which u need to stay away from if u want to be a gursikh. ur pretty much starting to ignore rules of sikhi, this isnt gonna get u anywhere. now can u say that wat u want to do right now makes u a gursikh?

i can seee ur problem, u need to b more educated with sikhi. sikhs took death over cutting their hair. now days ppl jus need a cheap excuse to cut their hair with no hesitation. simply bcuz they rather impress girls then heir gurus.

u probly heard of the saying:

a man shud never chose a girl(girl friend) over his friend.

as u can see....

u r chosing a girl(lust) over ur father(guru gobind) and over ur dharm(religion).

there was another topic on this recently:

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?showtopic=21612

make a wise decision, take ur time making it.

fateh

wow thanx. that really helped. i realize that i was actin selfish and i need to learn more about sikhi if i want to take any rash desicions.

[Bored]

np

u can learn alot from the forums on this site. stick to it. get inspired. theirs a site with english katha which will help u learn about sikh history.

http://www.ektaone.com/audio/index.php?q=f&f=%2FLectures

their all in english.

get inspired! :TH:

and videos (check under INSPIRATIONAL)

http://www.ektaone.com/video_index.php

[Guest Glasgow Singh]

also take a look at the jeevans (lives) of some of our great brothers and sisters who gave up their lives to keep their kesh - surely if these pyaaray gursikhs could undergo horrendous tortures - that i dont think id even be allowed to detail on a family website - they never once gave up and got their kesh cut...

Take some time out singh to read up on these people - thats what i did, and although i never really wanted to cut my hair - reading up on them made me appreciate how lucky i was, and that rather than everyone in school - I was the normal looking one - everyone else was difiguring themselves!!! lol funny when you realise that!!

As far as evolution goes, there is a shabad in which Maharaj tells us how we evolved from stones etc - im sure one of the more learned members of the sangat can give the exact shabad. . .

If you feel u wana talk anytimes - just pm me :D

[Jasmeet Kaur]

Hair - a Divine gift

Wednesday 18th of October 2006

Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir Singh Jee

Introduction

The essential five external Sikh-Symbols (5 Ks) are a unique gift to a Sikh from the Great Guru Gobind Singh Sahib and a baptised Amritdhari Sikh should, under no circumstances, willingly part company with any of them. Among four prohibitions (Kurehet) removal of Kesh (hair) is the most significant. To keep hair intact is the first and the foremost duty of a Sikh. The Guru gave paramount importance to Kesh as is apparent from the fact that in the sweet memory of First Sikh Amrit (Baptism) Ceremony of Five Beloved Ones, the relevant place at Anandpur Sahib was named Kesh-Garh.

The Sikh Panth are proud of one of their great sons, Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir Singh Jee, who lived a life of a true Gursikh and suffered every hardship in the true sense of a determined and completely dedicated Sikh of modern times in treading the path shown by the Gurus. He sang Akhand Kirtan and loved Gurbani from the inner depths of his heart. His viewpoint on the basic and fundamental question of Kesh (uncut hair) is best described in the dialogue between him (Bhai Sahib) and the prison Superintendent at Nagpur Prison, where he spent 7 ½ years out of his life-imprisonment because he had taken active part in the Freedom Movement during the first quarter of the 20th century. The dialogue makes an interesting reading strictly from a religious point of view. It reveals the deep faith Bhai Sahib held and sustained in the supreme Will of the Karta Purakh (God, the Creator) and the acceptance of God’s gift of Kesh, without meddling with it in any form.

What I have done in this respect, is an attempt to translate in English Bhai Sahib's writing on the subject from his book entitled "Letters from Prison", I have every hope that our younger Sikhs will, by reading through this, further strengthen their faith in one of the most prominent symbols of Sikh Dharma. This brochure is being printed with the concurrence of the Central Office of the Akhand Kirtani Jatha.

Kirpal Singh M.A.

Kent, UK

7th September 1979

Importance of Hair

Is it necessary to keep a full-length hair intact?

(A Dialogue between Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh Ji and the Prison-Superintendent Mr. Gupta at Nagpur prison.)

One day, it so happened that the Prison Officer bought a poor quality and a cheap brand of hair oil for our use while in prison. I refused to accept it, and asked him to get a better quality hair oil instead. I had already washed my hair with a strong soap, which had made my hair very rough and dry. I was to comb my hair only after it had been softened with hair oil in order to avoid damage to it. Without combing my hair, I was not going to take my meals. The Prison Officer, jailer and other staff with the exception of the new Prison-Superintendent, knew well about my problem.

I had washed my hair in the early morning, then midday came and passed and it was now late afternoon yet nobody bothered to supply me requisite hair oil. As a result of their negligence, I had to go without lunch and supper as well. Next morning it was Sunday and the Prison-Officer did not turn up for duty while the Prison-Superintendent usually stayed away on Sundays. On the third day, the Superintendent kept himself busy inspecting another section of the jail and nobody bothered to enquire about me. Everybody, perhaps, took it as a trifling matter and nobody brought me good quality hair oil. The prison superintendent knew nothing about it at all.

On the fourth day, when the Superintendent was on a round to our ward, the prison officer and others joined hands to complain against me telling him that, under protest, I had been on a hunger strike for the last four days. The helpless yet kind Superintendent came to see me and the succeeding dialogue commenced between us.

Prison Superintendent: Well, Randhir Singh! Ever since I have taken over here in this prison, this is the first time that someone has bothered and harassed me with a protest in the form of a hunger strike. Why haven’t you taken anything for so many days and why have you made me carry the burden of it all?

Myself: Good Sir, I haven’t done anything to make you feel the burden of my not eating anything for the last four days, nor have I harassed you in any manner. It just happened that I had washed my hair four days ago and I could not obtain proper hair oil for my use. Had I known that I was not likely to get proper hair oil, I would not have washed my hair with caustic soap on that day. After washing hair with caustic soap, it becomes rough, dry and entangled, and unless hair oil is applied, its combing becomes rather impossible. Hair oil softens the hair and they do not suffer from dropping off or breaking off during combing process. We, the Sikhs, have a strict religious order to comb our hair twice a day and we are forbidden to eat with our hair uncombed. So I could not eat anything out of respect for my religious commandments. It is not correct to say that I resorted to this as protest to your authority.

On hearing this, the kindhearted Superintendent got very much displeased with his prisonstaff and asked them why he was not informed of this problem earlier. He immediately ordered for a good quality hair oil. Within half an hour, good quality oil was brought and the Superintendent himself came and while handing it over to me he said very humbly, "Please forgive me, you had to suffer this trouble undeservedly because of my unawareness and absence. I should have respected your religious sentiments. I am sorry for what has happened this time. I promise it won't happen again."

Myself: Thank you very much. The fact is that both in the prison department and in other government departments, the sense of responsibility and integrity have vanished and the employees in general have become selfish and dishonest. The prison storemen buy the cheapest items for prisoners and charge the highest price from the government. Nobody bothers to investigate, especially in a prison. The poor prisoners do not dare make a complaint, and even if they do, no one listens to them. I have had a bitter experience during my prison sentence. There is a lot of meanness going on. There are only eight political and criminal Sikh prisoners in this prison. They would need hardly one large bottle of coconut oil for their use throughout the month, but these people depict such meanness that they bring the poorest quality oil and in this way, they cheat the government and exploit the poor prisoners.

The prison Superintendent listened to this all and accepted the criticism of the misdeeds of prison management. He assured me that he’d be taking steps to remedy these shortcomings. Then, all of a sudden, he raised a question and asked me, 'IS IT NECESSARY TO KEEP LONG HAIR?’

Myself: Is it necessary to keep the head on the human body?

Supdt: The body cannot survive without the head.

Myself: If, however, it could survive, would you be willing to get rid of it? (If the body could survive without the head, would you remove the head?)

Supdt: The head is more important and is an integral part of the body. With the head the body becomes complete and without the head, body cannot survive at all.

Myself: Have you placed the head on your body yourself?

Supdt: No, God has placed it there.

Myself: Undoubtedly God has placed the head on your body. If, however, it were placed by you, perhaps, you could afford to remove it as an unwanted burden.

Supdt: Of course. But how can we remove or afford to get rid of something given to us by God?

Myself: Well, suppose, if someone removes that God-given head from the body, what would you call that person?

Supdt: Undoubtedly, he would be called a tyrant, oppressor, murderer and an assassin.

Myself: If someone asks you questions as to why you have kept a head on your body, what will you think of him?

Supdt: It would be a sheer stupidity on the part of the questioner.

Myself: Just the way, our heads are placed on our bodies by the Creator Himself, the same way, the hair on my head and yours as well, have been grown by the same God, the Creator. Therefore, your question regarding keeping of long hair is irrelevant in itself, because it is not I who has grown it there, but the hair is God's gift. Just as the head on the body is God's special gift, so is the hair given by Him. It is our first and foremost duty to look after the hair (God's gift) as we would like to look after and protect our head. Those who do not maintain God-given gift on the head, (cut off or completely shave off their hair), are, in my well-considered view, ungrateful and disloyal to the supreme will of God. I consider them murderers.

Supdt: No, they cannot be called so, you can give them some other name, because in cutting hair no blood is spilt.

Myself: You mean if blood is spilt, then alone it can be called a murder or assassination. What if someone is strangled to death? Would you still not declare it a murder, because in strangling a person, no blood is spilt, though death does occur? It is no use indulging in verbal arguments. You know very well that in certain methods of murder, not even a drop of blood is allowed to spill. Would you not call perpetrators of these crimes as murderers? If not, what else will you call them?

Supdt: Excuse me, the head when once chopped off renders the body dead and the head does not grow again. But on the other hand the hair completely shorn off or hair cut short start growing again. There is a world of difference between the two instances.

Myself: Do you believe in reincarnation or transmigration of the soul?

Supdt: Yes, I do.

Myself: Nobody dies even after death, because the soul migrates. Those who kill others cannot kill their souls. The soul cannot die and it continues to take new births. The attempt to kill a soul goes in vain. There can be no success in doing this. In the same way, the effort of those who cut or shave their hair time and again, goes futile because the shaven or cut hair continue to grow again and again, the same way as the soul of a killed or dead person takes birth again and again. The difference, however, is only this that the soul moves on from one life to another and the killer or the murderer does not realise it, but the hair continue to grow until death of the person.

Persistent growth of hair acts as a rebuff to the efforts of the shaver. The way in which the life-spark of a soul exists in the total life-spark of God, the same way, the life-spark in the hair continues to exist in the life-spark of the human body until its (body's) complete destruction. It is very important that each hair on the human head and on the entire body be kept intact, because these are created there by God - our Creator. The hair on our head and body grow to such length as is needed by the physiology and biology of each individual body according to God's plan. The hair grows to certain length and then stops growing further naturally. Any attempt to undo the Creator's work by either trying to artificially make hair grow thicker and longer or get rid of it is our folly and also against the Law of God. Women do not have hair on the face. Any human attempt to grow it there would not succeed. Similarly, to cut hair from the head is also sheer folly. God - the Creator, has given beards to men but they shave them every day and try to look like women. But Nature does not let them do so. They shave but Nature administers a snub to them every morning by letting it grow again. The shavers receive double blow, one from the shaving blade and the other from Nature when every morning new beard comes out in defiance of their intentions. But they do not wake up to the ultimate Reality. Women as well suffer humility when they try to cut their hair and look like men by imitating them in this mad pursuit. Both male and female have gained absolutely nothing from this pursuit.

The question should have been "Why Nature's gift (Hair) should not be left intact on the head and elsewhere and why should it be cropped?" But, surprisingly, questions are asked the other way. The stark reality is that there is an overwhelming majority of people who defy the Divine because of this habit inherited from others through centuries and have mistaken the shaven face and shorn hair as a natural form. The reason is that, in the world, there are so few and so rare people who stick to and are consistent with the Eternal Law of Nature. When any person from powerful nations of the world chances to have a glance at a Sikh in natural form, he wonders at the latter's completely natural face and asks the question: "Is it necessary to keep hair intact?" In his ignorance he forgets that hair like other limbs of the body is part and parcel of the human body. A Sikh would never allow a single hair to be removed from his body because he bows to God's Law, he understands that hair growth has a purpose behind it and believes it a sin to do otherwise; just as a doctor would not advise to close a pore on the body.

This is a very complex question you have raised. Volumes can be written on this topic. We do not have enough time at our disposal to do full justice to the discussion on the sanctity of our hair. Those who raise such objections are usually Arya Samajists. Are you not prejudiced like them?

Supdt: (Smiling) No, I am not that much of an Arya Samajist, though, to some extent I am inclined towards Arya Samaj beliefs and practices. But I have asked this question to you just spontaneously. Even though you have used some very blunt epithets but I have, all the same, liked the line of your argument. A lot of my misconceptions and suspicions have vanished now.

When you leave jail, I wish you would write a detailed book on the philosophy of hair and propagate it throughout the world in all languages. Your argument that in cropping hair or shaving beards people just follow suit, like the movement of an individual sheep in a flock, has impressed me. All of our rishies, sages and prophets in the ancient times, were kesbadharis (with natural unshorn hair), which means they kept their hair intact. There is evidence that up to Mahabharat times all Khatries, Brahmins and religious leaders used to have long hair intact. In old Hindu books and scriptures it is written down how ignoble it was to cut hair and it was, in fact one of the seven punishments under the then state law. Lord Krishna, our Avtar, substituted cutting off hair of Rukmani's brother Rukman for death sentence in pursuance of her appeal to save his life. Rukman was so angry with this. He was so much grieved that he called his sister his enemy, because it was she who had recommended the cutting off his hair. Rukman himself thought that this punishment was worse than the death sentence.

I value your viewpoint, you are really a Singh with high ideals, Sardar Randhir Singh! No other Singh has ever convinced me like this. A grain of cogent argument is more than sufficient for a seeker after truth. Well, time has passed so quickly. Let us leave it there. Namaste. We will see to the rest later on.

Myself: Sat Sri Akal. 'Later on', surely does not so easily.

To be honest, the occasion to continue that dialogue 'later on’ never arrived again, but that prison Superintendent struck me as a very kind and a thoughtful person

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Panthic weekly

[Sachkhand]

Why the hair?

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh

A Gurmukh Singh was telling daas of his experience when he was in University. It was a conversation between him and another student:

Student: “Singh why have you got long hair and a big beard?”

The Gurmukh Singh was very clever and questioned back to him:

Gurmukh: “Why haven’t you got the hair? It was there in the first place but you have cut it off. Why have you cut it off?”

Saying this the other student couldn’t answer and just made up some excuse about cutting hair makes a person look more clean.

Daas can say the true fact is that the ones who cut their hair aren’t clean and are getting slapped by nature every morning. When one cuts his beard and shaves it regularly the next day it comes back. Thus proving that hair was actually meant to be there in the first place. Daas believes that this nature slapping us on the face telling us how foolish we are.

Daas remembers distinctly a conversation he had with a mona (one who cuts hair) and remember him saying he can understand Sikhi but never why one has to keep their hair long. Even though daas had given him a good explanation on why the hair is essential he still questioned it and never accepted what daas was saying. This is because ones mind becomes so blackened with filth that they follow what there minds tell them. Like sheep they follow each other and never use Guru Sahib’s teachings.

dyKw dyKI sB kry mnmuiK bUJ n pwie ]

They all show off and pretend, but the self-willed manmukhs do not understand.

What daas means by ‘Like sheep they follow each other’ is that the ones who cut their hair are just copying what others have done and without understanding or logic they cut their hair as if it is nothing. This is what sheep do. Sheep run around in fields following each other without understanding of what they are doing. In this same way the self-willed manmukhs are copying each other. The women are following the men by cutting their hair shorter and men are copying the women by wearing earings. In Kaljug everything is becoming opposite.

Here is an extract daas found on the internet regarding this topic. It is an extract from Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir Singh’s book, Undhiti Duniya.

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The mortal of evil leaning, burning the evil desires, wear evil adornments and ruin thir lives even in the next world. All the adornments and beauty of falsehood are transitory and of no avail after death. Aping the false adornments the women of other faiths, the women who forsake their own dress-code of Sikhism in pursit of the latest fashion, come to grief, as the following Gurbani quotes illustarte:

mwiT guMdwe^ØI ptIAw BrIAY mwg sMDUry ]

I have woven my hair into lovely braids, and saturated their partings with vermillion;

AgY geI n mMnIAw mrau ivsUir ivsUry ]

but when I go before Him, I am not accepted, and I die, suffering in anguish.

Leaving aside the simple way of Gursikhi God-Oriented Gurmukh ladies, is to have trss-knot at the top of the head covered with turban, as per the khalsa dress code. Those who delve in fashionable hair-dos and make-up are paving their way to hell. The above Gurbani makes it clear, delving in fashion leads not to true love, but only to wailing and grief in the Court-Divine. Should these sikh ladies have fear of awaiting Justice-Divine, so well explained repeatedly through the Wisdom of the Guru, they would not dare to delve in falsehood of fashion and spoil their life in the hereafter.

Fearlessness of the futre life after death and the non-belief in its existance is to get engrossed in the filth of characterlessness. Even in this world, the schorching of characterlessness leads many to their living verily in hell in prime of their youth. The worst may still be awaiting them when they depart in disgrace. Here is gurbani qoute to illistrate this.

dohwgxI KrIAw ibllwdIAw iqnw mhlu n pwie ]

The abandoned brides cry out in their suffering; they do not attain the Mansion of the Lord's Presence.

dUjY Bwie krUpI dUKu pwvih AwgY jwie ]2]

In the love of duality, they appear so ugly; they suffer in pain as they go to the world beyond. ||2||

Deprived of the love of the Beloved Lord, the true Union of Love, depicted inGurmat, the mortal beings delving in the evil adornmants truly lament as the discarded beings here in this world and also in the next. Their miserable plight of wailing and grief has been witnessed by Satguru as also by the ones graced with Divine-Sight, Saintly Gursikhs and devotees. Says the Guru, the unfortunate ones are not destined to find the Lord's Abode nor is it feasible. Given to worldly fashion, adopted by women of ill-repute, like adornments of lustful gaudiness make a person appear ugly and unclean. Such ones are bound to suffer in the hereafter. Unlimited shall be their misery and sufferings. Rest assures there is no escape from this fate. Never slacken your vigil regarding life that awaits in the hereafter, for the mind- oriented shall certainly be meted out punishment there.

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Daas would like to end this post by saying that the keeping the hair is accepting the divine will of Waheguroo and it is a basic principal of Sikhi. It is known to be the Moar (stamp) of Sikhi and without hair one can never be classed as Sikh of Guru Sahib. Keeping hair itself is Gurmat and accepting hair is accepting the will of Waheguroo which leads to a better life. Remember Gurmat itself is beautiful as one learns to live for Naam and not for himself. Without accepting the will of Waheguroo and keeping long hair one can never progress spiritually and is left spiritually blocked.

Daas would like to a benti to all people reading this. Could you please let others know about this website as it would benefit others as well yourselves. Also ones who are thinking of keeping their hair should do so as soon as possible. When one is thinking of doing something good they should do it straight away as you never know your mind might change your decisions. Anything bad we are thinking of doing should be delayed and if possible stopped.

Please forgive this kookar for any mistakes.

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh

[Khalsa]

Pyare Veerji,

How can you forget the love and sacrifice of Guru Gobind Singh ji?

He happily sacrificed His Sahibzadas for us and said,

"Inn Putran ke Sees Par, Vaar diye Sutt Char,

Char Muye to Kya Huya, Jeevat Kayi Hazaar"

which means, "I have sacrificed my Sahibzadas for my Sikh sons, So what if four have died, so many thousands are alive"

How can you forget the Sikh martyrs? Bhai Taaru Singh ji?

A Sikh says, "Sirr Jaye ta Jaaye, Mera Sikhi Sidak Naa Jaaye"

U tell me, whats an idenity of a sikh?

His turban, his uncut hair, his uncut beard is the first and foremost identity of being a sikh.

Other things follow after this.

If you lose this, believe me my brother, you lose being Guru Gobind Singh ji's son, you lose being a Sikh, you lose the support of God, you lose your identity, you lose your home, you lose yourself.

Coz at this time, your 'Mann" is ruling you....What is Mann? It is a rascal's laboratory, a rascal within you that wants to destroy you..

Dear friend, I would request you not to do this....I am saying this coz if you sink, it would not only be your pain, it would be my pain also coz you are my brother...We are a Sikh family.

Why do you say you have no one to care for?

If you don't cut your hair, you will get your true partners, who will be there with you always...who will never leave you unlike those worldly girlfriends who may ditch at any moment...

And believe me, the ones who respect and obey their Guru; Guru never lets them down.

It may be phase/exam of your life. If you change your decision today, God will change your destiny.

At last, I pray before my Waheguru to bless you and save you from being a 'Patit'.

Best Regards

hey everybody, im 13 and i started to keep my hair 3 yrs ago. I didnt have any doubts or regrets until I started thinking about cutting it. I wanted to cut it because even though people say hair is given from God. It is also possible that our hair jus came with evolution, it wasnt something given to us. I kinda agree o the scientific explanation cuz i mean there is total evidence and there is no reason to not beleive it. This isnt the only reason i am cuttin my hair, i live in a school where almost everybody is white/caucasian. I dont get bullied much but people treat me alot differently. I had no girl that was more close to me than a freind after i wore a patka/pugh. i know i shouldnt even be thinkin about that rite now, especially me being a sikh, but its nearly impossible to help it. Everyone has some they care for more than a friend, and ive barely had that. i wish i could see the lighter side of sikhi, i mean i try to understand nitnem when i do it but its so hard to do it 5 times a day. Forgive me for bein week, i need some guidance.

Please someone give me some advise before i do something i regret, like cutting my hair. i would apreciate it a lot.

[Khalsa]

Hi dear ajeeet,

I would like to know what have u decided finally?

plz reply if possible.

Best Regards

[Bored]

if ur starting nitnem nnewly, u dont need to start all 5 banis right away, read jap ji sahib and learn the meaning over and over, then eventually start reading 2 banis, and so on.

now about the evolution, simply god made the evolution happen, and along with its the hair came with the evolution.

its all part of gods plan my friend. accept it.

girls rnt gonna get u anywhere. one of the 5 evils; lust, which u need to stay away from if u want to be a gursikh. ur pretty much starting to ignore rules of sikhi, this isnt gonna get u anywhere. now can u say that wat u want to do right now makes u a gursikh?

i can seee ur problem, u need to b more educated with sikhi. sikhs took death over cutting their hair. now days ppl jus need a cheap excuse to cut their hair with no hesitation. simply bcuz they rather impress girls then heir gurus.

u probly heard of the saying:

a man shud never chose a girl(girl friend) over his friend.

as u can see....

u r chosing a girl(lust) over ur father(guru gobind) and over ur dharm(religion).

there was another topic on this recently:

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?showtopic=21612

make a wise decision, take ur time making it.

fateh

wow thanx. that really helped. i realize that i was actin selfish and i need to learn more about sikhi if i want to take any rash desicions.

i believe he wants to stick wih sikhi and learn more aout it khalsa :TH: