Are Their Parts Of England Were Sikhs Get Bullied By Muslims

[virk30]

and if so how in the world are their sikhs getting bullied by muslims, this is a slap in our faces

http://www.westernresistance.com/blog/archives/2008_01.html

reading some of these articles, this stuff is pathetic how in the world do these guys fear ppl who marry their cousins

Izzadeen is a follower of Omar Bakri Mohammed, who used to belong to Al Muhajiroun. After Bakri disbanded Al Muhajiroun in October 2004, Izzadeen helped Bakri to lead two derivative groups. He is currently awaiting trial on terrorism charges. Bakri urged his followers to claim welfare benefits from the government they hated. His followers had no problem beating opponents in the street. Bakri's followers, such as Abdul Muhid (pictured right), have engaged in harassment of Sikhs and have fought with police. These followers have used violence and intimidation, the methods of street gangs, to gain "respect".

Sikhs and Muslims, though classed together by British media as "Asians" have been engaged in gang warfare since the 1990s. In Slough, west of London in 1997, fighting flared up between a Sikh gang called Shere-e-Punjab (the Lions of Punjab) and Muslims from Chalvey, a suburb of Slough called the Chalvey Boys. Shere-e-Punjab had been formed in Handsworth, Birmingham, in the 1980s, and has grown to include parts of London, Slough and Derby. When the Slough violence erupted in 1997, with reports of Sikhs terrorizing Muslims in their homes (and Chalvey Boys responding by attacking Sikh homes, stores and cars), a group was set up in the town called Aik Saath. This group lasted for eight years and acted as an intermediary between Sikh and Muslim gang members.

After 9/11, tensions between Sikh and Muslim youths returned, with much of the conflict centered around schools. On May 16, 2006 violence occurred between students of two schools in Burnham in Slough, in which one student was stabbed. A year earlier, one of these schools, Burnham Grammar School, had given a Sikh student permission to carry a ceremonial knife (kirpan) in class.

In Derby, violence between gangs of Sikh and Muslim school students took on surreal proportions. In October 2001, an argument over the events of 9/11 led to a gang of youths, apparently Muslims, breaking into Derby Moor Community School. A girl from the school had allegedly argued with Muslim girls over the American Al Qaeda attacks, and one Muslim girl had her headscarf ripped. The gang who invaded the school she attended carried axes and hammers. After smashing windows, the gang attacked students and the teachers who tried to intervene. Five children were taken to hospital. One of these, a 15-year old Sikh girl who was thought to have been involved in the earlier argument, received spinal injuries and a fractured skull. After the attack, a Muslim gang paraded outside the school, chanting "Osama bin Laden".

Tensions between Muslims and Sikhs had been exacerbated by distribution of a letter which urged Muslims to get Sikh girls drunk and convert them to Islam. The letter came from a group calling itself "Real Khilafa", which appears to have been a front group of Al Muhajiroun.

A fortnight after the school attack, a 22-year old Sikh male was ambushed by a gang of Muslims in Derby. The assailants carried hammers and crowbars. Harjit Singh Sandhu received a broken leg and cuts to his head and face. Sandhu's friend said that the injured young man had run into Muslim shops for help but received none. Previously, Muslims had tried to run Mr Sandhu down in a car which drove onto the sidewalk. A Muslim gang called the Youth Muslims Organization continued to patrol Derby's streets calling out Osama bin Laden's name.

[guptveer1469]

Oh my god... Waheguru Waheguru

Whats happening Singho? Can any Singh(ni) from UK confirm these escalated tensions? I knew of problems, but didn't knew they were this much and dangerous? What is sangat doing? Any Sikh fighting clubs?

WJKK WJKF

[virk30]

accept the youth who have the balls to go to war with the pakis, rest of the sikhs or majority of the sikh youth in england needs something to bring them together and to grow some balls if this is going on and attack back and destroy these pakis

or those old school shere punjab guys need to get alot of these youth together and put that fire in them to protect their community and to attack these pakis and to stand up for and protect fellow sikhs

[Jeevan]

If the Sikhs had an idea they would lose lives, land, homes, Gurdwaras etc. for the creation of Pakistan how many would have chosen a different political path many years before?

The world at the moment is facing up to extremist Islam this is not just affecting the West like 9/11, 7/7 but places like Somalia, Eygpt, Sudan, Nigeria where central governments are trying to get a grip on their countries and stopping a slide in to civil war.

The 20th Century was a battle of democracy over Fascism and Communism, the 21st Century will be a battle between Extreme Islam and the rest of the world!!!

[virk30]

but sikhs shouldn't be taking this in england instead when they try terrorising sikhs the sikhs should smash up all the muslim areas and just find and smash the extremists, and get all these old baba who act like brave sikhs but arn't that run the gurdwaras to fork out the cash or money from their pockets or gurdwaras to pay for these guys lawyers if the mulsim community try's charging these guys

[Jeevan]

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

[Jeevan]

BBC NEWS

Sectarian violence hits Pakistani town

By Aleem Maqbool

BBC News, Gorja, Pakistan

On a street in the small Punjabi town of Gojra, house after house stands gutted and looted.

One home in particular is the focus of attention. The windows and doors are gone, what is left of the furniture lies gnarled inside, and some of the ceilings have collapsed. People are peering into a small bedroom at the back of the building.

It is from here that the charred bodies of six members of the Hameed family, from Pakistan's minority Christian community, were recovered. The youngest of the dead was four-year-old Mousa.

We found his father, Almass Hameed, 49, in a crowded hospital ward nearby.

'Shocked and crying'

"He was such a bright boy. His teachers complained that he was cheeky at times, but nobody could doubt how clever he was. But now he's gone," Mr Hameed said, breaking down.

“ It was like the most horrific movie. They destroyed our lives ”

Almass Hameed

He described how an angry Muslim mob came through the area, known here as the Christian Colony.

"I think there were thousands," he said. "My elderly father went out to see what was happening and they shot and killed him. We were all shocked and crying. Before we knew it, they were breaking into the house."

Mr Hameed explained how he and nine other members of the family hid in the bedroom as the house was over-run.

"We could hear them smashing everything and dividing our belongings amongst themselves," he said. "Then they started beating on the door saying they would teach us a lesson and burn us alive."

Soon after, a fire was raging through his house.

"We just couldn't breathe," he said. "I grabbed my eldest son and managed to get out of the room through the flames, my brother came out with one of my daughters, but the rest were stuck and we had no way of rescuing them."

As well as his father and Mousa, Mr Hameed lost his 11 year-old daughter, his wife, a brother, a sister-in-law and her mother.

"It was like the most horrific movie. They destroyed our lives."

'Fired shots'

Tensions had risen after allegations that Christians in the nearby village of Korrian had torn up and burnt pages of the Koran at a wedding a few days earlier.

"They started it," 19-year-old Omar Ali Raza said in Gojra's marketplace.

"We Muslims are the victims. We gathered to protest about what they did to the Koran in Korrian and just wanted to walk through their area, but they threw stones at us and fired shots."

"Of course it is bad that Christians died," he added. "But they provoked the Muslims here. I don't understand why everyone is on their side."

But an elderly Muslim man passing by interrupts. "The responsibility is with the one who actually burns the Koran, not all Christians," he said. "Here, we live together, and there were no problems before this."

As it happens, a local police chief, Ahmed Javaid, said he believed the claim that Christians desecrated the Koran was not true in the first place.

"Yes, pieces of paper had been cut up to look like money at a Christian wedding, but they were not pages of the Koran," he said.

"However, the rumour spread and the issue became politicised."

Very soon after the allegations from Korrian surfaced, politicians from several parties held large rallies denouncing Christians in the area, calling for action. These were not just politicians from expressly right-wing Islamist parties.

PML-N leaders have visited Gojra in recent days, expressing solidarity with minority communities. But Christians here say they are sceptical.

They accuse the party and others of having previously taken advantage of anti-Christian feelings rather than helping to calm things down.

'Rare' violence

Senator Pervaiz Rashid, at the headquarters of the Nawaz party, told me it was very serious in its commitment to minority rights.

"We acknowledge there were problems in Gojra, and it is an embarrassment," he said. "However, it was an isolated incident and the local president, Qadeer Awan, has now had his party membership suspended."

"I do not believe that there are any other local politicians in our party involved in such activities."

Violence of this scale against Pakistan's estimated three million strong Christian community may be rare (this is the worst such incident in seven years), but complaints of discrimination are certainly commonplace.

The government says it has opened an inquiry into what happened in Gojra, but Asma Jahangir, the chairperson of the Human Rights Commission, is not expecting the type of change she thinks is needed.

"For too long the Pakistani state has protected people with extremist views," she said.

"It is not just political parties. There are radicalised individuals, and supporters of militant groups within the judiciary, the education system, the bureaucracy and police as well."

This was not the vision of Pakistan held by its founder, Muhammad Ali Jinnah.

"Minorities, to whichever community they may belong, will be safeguarded. Their religion or faith or beliefs will be secure," he said just weeks before Pakistan's creation in 1947.

"They will be, in all respects, the citizens of Pakistan without any distinction of caste or creed."

But as Pakistan prepares to mark its independence day, many of its citizens do not see any cause for celebration.

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Published: 2009/08/12 00:57:55 GMT

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[Jeevan]

BBC NEWS

MP defends Muslim wedding walkout

A government minister has defended his decision to walk out of a Muslim wedding in east London because he was told he must sit apart from his wife.

Jim Fitzpatrick, food, farming and environment minister, left a ceremony at London Muslim Centre, Whitechapel.

The MP for Poplar and Canning Town told the BBC the segregation showed a degree of intolerance in the East End.

But a spokesman for the centre said the segregation was at the request of the couple getting married.

Mr Fitzpatrick, whose constituency is home to a large Muslim community, blamed the tough stance on the Islamic Forum of Europe (IFE) - a controversial organisation that calls for Sharia law - which is based in the same building.

“ The vast number of my Muslim constituents who've contacted me have expressed sympathy ”

Jim Fitzpatrick MP

He told the BBC's Today: "This is a very exceptional occasion, it's a new occurrence.

"It perhaps demonstrates that there is a degree of intolerance - certainly exclusion rather than inclusion which we are trying to build in the East End."

Mr Fitzpatrick added: "Certainly the vast number of my Muslim constituents who've contacted me have expressed sympathy that I was placed in this predicament."

Mohammad Shakir, a spokesman for the centre, said: "Segregated weddings have always been popular in the Muslim community - the London Muslim Centre has facilitated them for over five years.

"It is part of the attraction for Muslim families so they can celebrate their happy day in a religious atmosphere.

"We have always allowed non-Muslim guests to be seated together without segregation, but this is entirely at the discretion of the families who hire the halls."

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[virk30]

were you have high volume of muslims you need sikh groups to terrorise them, the shere punjab should never disapeared