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What is the Sikh attitude to homosexuality? Sexuality in Sikhi relates to the marriage of a man and woman and the sacredness of their singular physical relationship. It is a means to creating a future of children that can live in elevation and mastery. When speaking of homosexuality and even bisexuality, the implication is that the relationship is based on sex. The Sikh way of life is a system of living for achieving harmony of the mind, body and spirit and living in God consciousness. If you are focusing heavily on the physical aspects of your relationships, then you are already out of balance. Those who have an issue with sexuality preference should be encouraged to direct their mind away from flirting with their own sexuality. Let it go. When ever these thoughts come up, they should direct their mind to meditate on "WaheGuru". People should be encouraged to develop their capacity as a "God man" rather than a "gay man". There is no such thing as same sex marriages in the Sikh Gurdwara. RESPECT AND DIGNITY FOR ALL Although Sikhism does not find homosexual behaviour acceptable, Sikhism does not "hate" or believe that homosexuals are damned to hell as propagated by some religions. As Sikhs we are taught to have principles (asools). A Sikh does not accept any lifestyle other than the Guru's Way but also prays everyday for "Sarbat da bhalla" (the prosperity of all humanity). Gurbani tells us that God is without hatred and animosity. We are all the children of God. The Gurdwara is open for all no matter who they are or what they've done. God loves us all regardless of our thoughts or actions. ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਦਾਤਾ ਦਇਆਲੁ ਹੈ ਜਿਸ ਨੋ ਦਇਆ ਸਦਾ ਹੋਇ ॥ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਅੰਦਰਹੁ ਨਿਰਵੈਰੁ ਹੈ ਸਭੁ ਦੇਖੈ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਇਕੁ ਸੋਇ ॥ "The True Guru is the Merciful Giver; He is always compassionate. The True Guru has no hatred within Him; He beholds the One God everywhere." (Ang 302) BEING BORN HOMOSEXUAL AND NATURALLY INCLINED? Whether homosexual inclinations, tendancies and behaviour are natural or not does not hold any weight when discussing Gurmat (the Guru's teachings). It is possible that urges, inclinations and desires may be natural to some, but in Gurmat a Sikh is not supposed to act upon or follow on all urges of sexual desire/lust (or any other vice). ਮਨ ਕਾ ਸੁਭਾਉ ਸਭੁ ਕੋਈ ਕਰੈ ॥ ਕਰਤਾ ਹੋਇ ਸੁ ਅਨਭੈ ਰਹੈ ॥੨॥ "(In the world) everyone acts according to the inclinations of the mind. (But the one who remembers and meditates on the Lord's name doesn't follow the inclinations of the mind, instead with the blessings of Naam becomes) the image of the Creator Lord and remains in a state free of fear. ||2||" (Ang 1167) Taking the help of Guru's Shabad, we are supposed to fight the sexual urges. ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥ "The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||" (Ang 1195) Just because some sexual urge is 'natural', it does not mean that it is good to act upon it or follow it. Some people have incest urges and they too are natural to them. Should they follow those urges or subdue such urges through extensive reflection of Gurbani and Naam Abhiyaas (repetition of the Divine-Name). Some are paedophiles and have such horrific urges. Does it mean that the paedophiles are supposed to follow their urges just because they are 'natural' to them? Gurbani teaches us that urges, inclinations or desires can be subdued through reading, listening, contemplating and understanding the Guru's Shabad, keeping company with the Saadh Sangat (company of the Holy), sewa (selfless service) and Naam Simran (devotional remembrance and meditation of the Lord). ਕਾਮ ਕ੍ਰੋਧ ਲੋਭ ਮਦ ਮਤਸਰ ਸਾਧੂ ਕੈ ਸੰਗਿ ਖਾਪ ॥ "Sexual desire, anger, greed, pride and envy are destroyed in the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy." (Ang 1223) SAME-SEX RELATIONSHIPS? Having premarital relations with the opposite sex is same as having premarital relations with the same sex - they are both unacceptable in the Sikh faith. They both are the result of Kaam (lust) which a GurSikh must be able to control. Guru Sahib prohibits the Sikh from even gazing at another with the intention of romance, lust, or sexual affection: ਪਰ ਤ੍ਰਿਅ ਰੂਪੁ ਨ ਪੇਖੈ ਨੇਤ੍ਰ ॥ "With your eyes, do not even gaze (in a lustful manner) upon the beauty of another." (Sukhmani Sahib, Ang 274) ਦੇਖਿ ਪਰਾਈਆਂ ਚੰਗੀਆਂ ਮਾਵਾਂ ਭੈਣਾਂ ਧੀਆਂ ਜਾਣੈ ॥ "Men should look at the opposite gender as mothers, sisters and daughters, (women should look at the opposite gender as fathers, brothers and sons)." (Bhāī Gurdās: Vār 29/ Paurī 11) SAME-SEX MARRIAGE According to the Sikh Rehit Maryada, the Anand Karaj (Sikh marriage) can only be between a Sikh man and woman only. Sexual relationship can only be between the couple married under the Anand Karaj maryada. Denouncing the practice of same-sex marriages, Jathedar of Akal Takht, issued a directive with the seal of Sri Akaal Takht Sahib that prohibited any Gurdwara in the world to hold such ceremonies. Jathedar Giani Joginder Singh Vedanti described same sex marriages as an ‘anti-Gurmat’ trend that had no place in Sikhism. ਸੋ ਸਿਖੁ ਸਖਾ ਬੰਧਪੁ ਹੈ ਭਾਈ ਜਿ ਗੁਰ ਕੇ ਭਾਣੇ ਵਿਚਿ ਆਵੈ ॥ ਆਪਣੈ ਭਾਣੈ ਜੋ ਚਲੈ ਭਾਈ ਵਿਛੁੜਿ ਚੋਟਾ ਖਾਵੈ ॥ ਬਿਨੁ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਸੁਖੁ ਕਦੇ ਨ ਪਾਵੈ ਭਾਈ ਫਿਰਿ ਫਿਰਿ ਪਛੋਤਾਵੈ ॥੧॥ "He alone is a Sikh, a friend, a relative and a sibling, who walks in the Way of the Guru's Will. One who walks according to his own will, O Siblings of Destiny, suffers separation from the Lord, and shall be punished. Without the True Guru, peace is never obtained, O Siblings of Destiny; again and again, he regrets and repents. ||1||" (Ang 601) Guru Sahib gave Sikhs Hukam (Order). Hukam and Rehit (discipline) put boundaries on our behaviour. We all need discipline in life. Some may say why we do you stop people from smoking, you do not believe they are equal to you? But reality is everyone is equal, but as a Gursikhs, we choose a 'Niraala Panth' (a Distinct Path). The 'Niraala panth' is defined by Rehit and Hukam. Marriage is two souls merging into one. However even this union which is not based on Kaam (lust), but love, respect and within Gurmat, even that is also temporary. The true Union is between a person and Akaal - this is permanent. When one achieves that union, everything else is put into perspective and is incomparable. Even if a person is naturally homosexual, as one cannot become one, or a person is heterosexual and full of lust (Kaam) or not, and lives as a true disciple of Guru, all of them should search for this 'true union', because without it there is no way to quench their thirst. To obtain this union, one has to forsake all, and live in the discipline of Gurmat Rehit (discipline in accordance to the Guru's Way), and have a longing for the Darshan, Blessed Vision, of Waheguru. RESPECT FOR ALL HUMAN BEINGS A Sikh of the Guru treats all humanity with dignity and respect. We may not agree with homosexual's lifestyle, and occasional mannerisms, but we could also on a personal level not agree with the lifestyles of 95% of humanity who love to drink, and others smoke, etc. So we should not be hypocrites and judge some and not others. One should strive to appreciate every human as they are on a humanitarian basis and build upon their Jeevan (spiritually disciplined life). A Sikh should share common positive virtues. If someone sees God inside you then one should direct the other person towards Gurbani. The fact is the Amritdhari lifestyle does not allow of homosexuality, and this is not debatable.

Thur 30th July, 2009: 6pm-9:30pm: Akhand Keertan Gurdwara Sri Guru Singh Sahba, Sheehy Way, Waxham Court, Slough, SL2 5SS Fri 31st July, 2009: 5:30am-10:30am: Asa Ki Vaar Gurdwara Sikh Center, Sawyer Lawn, Drayton Bridge Road, West Ealing W13 0JP Fri 31st July, 2009: 7pm-10:30pm: Akhand Keertan Sri Guru Singh Sahba Gurdwara, 2-8 Park Avenue, Southall,UB1 3AG Sat 1st August, 2009: 5:30am-10:30am: Asa Ki Vaar Khalsa Primary School,Wexham Road, Slough, SL2 5QR Sat 1st August, 2009: 7pm-5am: Raensabaayee Keertan Sri Guru Singh Sahba Gurdwara, 2-8 Park Avenue, Southall,UB1 3AG

Vahegurrroooo excellent post above

Bhai Ravinder SIngh ( Delhi ) will be attending ...wooo hoooo

It essetial everyone signs this peition this movie is a direct slap in the face of every Sikh, these people Raped , tortured , and murdered tens of thousands of Sikhs and now they are gloryfying it in the form of this movie. Making us look like terrorists

May Guru ji just bless you with the ability not to judge other Gursikhs especially those who are doing kirtan with rass and brining the Anand of Gurbani to the sangat. If you enjoy raag kirtan thats great but don't judge another gursikh he's your brother and you speak of him like he's your enemy???

May Guru ji bless you with the Anand that the rest of the sangat feel when listening to the keertan.

Amazing kirtan recommend downloading Gupreet singh & Satvinder Singh, the atmosphere was electric

Excellent seva can wait for your next post :WW:

Giani Guvdew SIngh and Bibi Sant Kaur from Australia will also be doing kirtan

If a one partner was to take amrit then then they are not to have aphysical relationship with the other partern as they are a patit. There fore anyone can take amrit alone but need to have self cotnrol over lust

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/cove...92746-24083453/

You are right there shoudl be more doen in local Gurdwara's but this comes down to the youth, its only when they make the effrot that these things will start happening.

not good news

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intresting

Gurfateh ji There is an Amrit Sanchar this Saturday at Raensabaayee Keertan Jun 20 2009 to 7:00 PM to 5:00 AM Guru Nanak Gurdwara 128-130 High Street, Smethwick,B66 3AP

IN MEMORY OF ALL THE SHAHEEDS OF 84 AND ONWARDS THERE WILL BE AN AMRIT SANCHAR AT THIS REHANSBHAI

Bhai Joginder Singh - Organ donation -Sikh perspective. www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqTowUO2r2s

What happend to the Discover sikhi show , that has been the most inspiring show since you'ved aired

THIS MONTHS KIRTAN IS IN REMEMBERANCE OF THE COWARDLY ATTACK ON SIRI DARBAR SAHIB BY THE INDIAN ARMY 25 YEARS AGO WHICH LEFT THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT SIKHS DEAD & INJURED, MANY MORE THOUSANDS WENT THROUGH TORTURE, KILLINGS, RAPES AND HARRASMENT A BENTI TO ALL SANGAT TO ATTEND AND JOIN IN THE KIRTAN TO REMEMBER THOSE WHO FOUGHT FOR TO KEEP OUR SIKHI

A BENTI TO ALL THE SANGT BRING PROFFESIONAL BANNERS AND LEAFLETS , COME DRESSED IN BLUE WITH ORANGE DASTARS SO WE MAKE A MASSIVE IMPACT, WE'VER GOT THREE COACHES JUST FROM OUR GURDWARA GOING MORE NAMES COMING IN EVERYDAY. ITS YOUR DUTY TO LET THE PEOPLE IN YOUR AREA KNOW, GET THE COACHES BOOKED AND GET TEH SANGAT THERE WE NEED TO SHOW THE WORLD WE HAVEN'T FORGET OR NEVER WILL

Notice how badal is sitting on a chair in Gurjis darbar

If someone reads it or not what difference does that make to your day ?? lol

Yes I must be lol yes you are because you are anti-raagmala! get a life! support your guru's bani! I do read the article