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Wow, so full of information. Khalistan all the way.

Done and all of my friends will do the same.

What’s the status on Suicide in Sikh religion? Sh. Darshan Singh Feruman went on hunger strike in support of Punjabi Suba and departed from this world on Oct 27, 1968. Would that be considered a Suicide? If not a suicide then what it will be called?

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Bhul Chuk Mauf, Wasn't this Shabad written by Guru Arjun Dev Ji in his letter to Guru Ram Das Ji? "Mittar Pyaray Nu, Haal Mureedan Da Kehna" I got confused here! Can somone Please clear this out? Guru Fateh Jio.

WaheGuru Ji Ka Khalsa WaheGuru Ji Ki Fateh Kalma Singh is a good and unique name. Just one question for you. Do you have anything to do with sn name "DesiRudeBoy" on some other site? If Yes, then hit me up in my inbox.

Daulat Rai in his Books "Sahibe Kamal, Guru Gobind Singh" on page 107 "O, hindus! there can be no more ungrateful people than you. No other nation can boast of ingratitude of a deeper hue than you. No other nation has in her the fell spririt of disregarding her patriots. Who can be more savage and hell-ben on turtuing the rue lovers of her land?" Daulat Rai further writes: O. Mother India, these are your offspring. Your most favorite, the eldest Brahmin son (Ganga Ram) had already shown his true color of deceit, ungratefulness, shamelessness, indeceny and inhumanity. Now be proud of your second worthy son, The Kashatri, Dwan Sucha nand who felt no hesitation in wreaking his vengacne on the Guru, by sending his tender sons to certain death. He was not to be oudone by his elder Brahmin brother, in meanness, jealousy, col-blooded inhumanity and devilishness. These are your true begotten sons. These mean and selfish sons cause you endless pain and greatly torture your mind. These sons of your are consumed by jealousy and hatred for your other children. They are thirsty for the blood of their own brethren and like leeches, they aere even engaged in sucking it. O woebegone Mother, whom can you accuse and complain against when your own children are eager to kill one another? O, who can defend you then? O, Mother, you have been seen the work of your Brahmin and Kashatri sons, who a claim preeminence over your other sons. Now Guru Gobind Singh has taken with him your lowly son, the Shudra to defend you. But the jealous, mean and haughty elder brothers won't let them gain enough strength to achieve their goal. In their wickedness the wretches the ignoble elder brothers-work against you and their own good. Their wisdom has been sonsumbed by their wickedness. O, Mother india, pray to the Almighty for your sons. Supplicate the Lord to teach them to love one anothe and foster firm bonds of Khalsa brotherhood. Daulat Rai writes on page 106. The Brahmins could not tolerate the breaking up of the caste system and the discarding of the tradition of Janje-wearing. They created a furore over this. The Rajajs of surrounding hill tracts were set against the Guru by the Brahmins who declared that Guru had denigrated hindu Dharma. These Rajas were already jealouf of his growing power and saw a challenge to their own Supremcacy in his crusade against caste distinctions. The Brahmins incited them to hound the Guru persistently without giving him a breather so as to break his spiriti and disperse his bedgraggled crowd of an amry...... ........ The Guru - The great Gobind Singh - was preparing to sacrifice his all for thee, was busy whole-heartedly to lift thee out of thy degraded state to a higher level of self-respect and decenty and yet thy people stand agains him out of jealousy and selfishness! This is all due to the ungratefulness, hatred and jealousy that tis suffused in they veins. It is because of theis perverse stuff in you that you have been condemned to slavery. In short, the Rajputs who claimed to be great fighters ans stupid Hill rajas turned against the Guru. The latter, commenced making preparations against him with a view to harassing him. But the heart of Guru Gobind Singh was dauntless and nothing could trouble him. The Hill Rajas fired the 1st shot against him in a cowardly and unsoldierly way. They asked him to leave their territory, get out of Anandpur and pay for the damage and destruction casued by his people. This compensations should be made in hard cash. In the case of non-compliance with these conditions, the combined army of the Hill Rajas will march against him. The Guru's father Guru Tegh Bahadur had bought the land and had set up a village there (Note newly RSS propoganda on this is that A hindu Raja donated this land). The Guru, a fighter by instinct and a crusader for freeing the country from foreign dominance, could not be expected to submit to such terms. He sent back the reply that he would pay the claimed damages with his sword and re-purchase his stay at Anandpur with bullets (Rifles were out in market by this time). You can view the Gun on this link The Rajput Kings did not like the tone and tenor of this reply. Their blood rose in vengeance and they drew their swords. They attacked Ananpur a number of times. Sikh Religion and making of Khalsa broke the back of Brahminism so all Brahmins are jealous of Khalsa Panth. Daulat Rai: The Khalsa of Guru Gobind Singh was a group of people who were determined and daring, truthful and trustworthy, and dedicated and devoted to their Guru and Dharma. They proved their mettle and credentials time and again. The high castes had kept themselves aloof and hence the qualties mentioned above could not be attributed to their inclusion. In fact, these people had over a long period of bondage and subjection to persisten tyranny lost whever good qualities they ever had. the Kashatris, once known for their fighting powers, valour and self-respect, were offering their daughters, willingly and with some sort of pride, to the Muslims. The Brahmins were ready to sacrifice their country in order to save their dhoti from disrespect and were not pertubed over the sale of their women in the bazars of Ghazni for pretty sums of two dinars. These communities could not be said to contribute to the wonderful quallities of Khalsa. I can type up more if any Veer is interested. Guru Fateh Jio.

My pyare veer, I DONT watch TV. I consider it to be a kurehit to watch TV. But yes, on the interet, I have heard these stories about world ending in 2012. I dont really believe in such stories. And what I have written is not based on these stories. All this science, industrial revolution is nuthing but MAYA, its an illusion and its going to end and we will be back to horses, bullock carts, rural life. But the problem is that before we come back to the rural world, more than 1/6th of population has to die. Start prepareing for a life without oil and electricity. XHarinder Ji, This is off the topic but MAYA concept is hindu philosphy According to hindu Vedant, it emphasizes that the world is false, a myth (Maya). It is an illusion (Maya) of fallacy it is infered from here that what we see is different than what reality is. To make the point across here is an example: One misapprehends a hare with horns when seen from a distance, which infact are not there. One sees mirage in a desert that gives an impression of prsence of water which actually is not there. A rope appears like a snake in the darkness of night, it in not a snake. Similarly the world too is a trick (Maya) or a doubt. It is not here in relaity but appears to be there. Such is the realtionship of Brahm and a human being, as that of darness and rope. The esixtence of rope is confirmed but not tht of a snake. The doubt about the prsence of a snake emerges from the presence of a rope. Similarly the existence of the world depends upon the existence of Brahm. It is nothing in itself. And more confusin views have been propagated by Vedant in respect of existence of the worldd. Afte deliberating on Brahm, world and maya, we come to a conclusion tht we can neither call the world true (reality) nor false, or even reality-false. Like maya (mammon) it is describable. Finally the world has been called MAYA in hinduism. GURMAT does not hold the Universe as a trick (Maya) or something doubtful. Unlike Vedant it does not consider it something false or unreal. This universe has been created by the True Lord Himeslf. He himself resides in it. Therefore, the world is REAL & TRUE. On the other hand , the visible Universe keeps experiencing changes all the time. The root and conscious objects operate and exist under these rules only. The old is vanquishing while the new are taking their place. In order to bring home the ever changing/altering nature of the Univers, the fact that all that has been produced in the world will end and by, GURMAT has also called the universe a mountain of smoke or a dream. Back to the MAKING OF KHALIATAN this was discussed on another post, so look it up. Khalsa is a Universal and Khalsa Raj will be universal. When an indivual becomes Khalsa power of ONE then this ONE planet is Khalsa Raj. Think of it as a Pind as mentioned by another Singh. Don't limit Khalistan to Punjab only. Also read the sticky's. Guru Fateh Jio.

Totally agree with you. Sikhs of Punjab were born in the Concept of Sikh religion. Sant Bhinderanwale went village to village and took them out of Concept of Sikh to put them into the Conception of being Sikh. As result people turned to Sikhi and Punjab was drug free. Sant Ji spoke the very truth but still there were lot of so called Sikhs who opposed him as well. Guru Fateh Jio.

Sat Kartar Sat Kartar was concept at the times of Guru Nanak Dev Ji. Tenth Nanak gave it the final overall to Bole So Nihal Sat Shri Akal EDIT : WaheGuru Ji Ka Khalsa, WaheGuru Ji Ki Fateh. Who ever wanted to be part of Sikh (ism) religion had to take footwash of Guru's feet and drink it. This was done to brake the Brahmin supremacy. Tenth Nanak changed this as well when he dministered Khandy Batey Da Amrit and removed all caste creed distinctions amongst the Sikhs & established them into a new order of Khalsa, the hindu hill chieftains felt very distressed. When Guru Ji also advised these chieftains to become Khalsa, they said tht they were prepared to partake Amrit if the container for the low caste was made separate and a separate one for them. Guru Ji replied that the sole aim of administering Amrit is to remove the caste creed distinctions. If the container is made separate, what good would this Amrit means?

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I've seen few here are quite misunderstood on Sikh religion or what is Sikhi. Specially topic in "Gupt" Hair Issue I am new here this might have been touched before put putting it out again. Also listen to this video and put out your feedback without getting in arguments as we all are suppose to be on the same page, Express your views and thoughts don't attack each other by taking somone's lines and translating in your own limited knowledge. Guru Fateh Jio.

Sorry brother, but answering to your views coul;dnot be just typed out in one paragraph. Hence, I answered with my views for each topic seperately. Please donot get me wrong, I in no way say that a Gursikh can live without cutting his hair, NO, never. What I was answering to and presenting a more borader point in; is the fact that IT IS NOT A super hardcore necessity, THAT YOUR DAMNED if you dont have hair. Please dont encourage such thoughts. There can be many reasons a sikh who prays to god as lovingly as you do can be a cut surd, point in bringing up Namdev Ji and Kabir Ji was the same, true lovers of God. regardless, I bow before Dasam Guru jis orders and await Almighty Lord Har Har hare / Vaheguru's blessings to do the same. It is sad how some stupid hardcore ppl think they are the true followers of god but they dont even know what Jap Ji sahib , Sukhmani Sahib, rehras Sahib, Akal Ustat stand for...they just dont know. Hence when a person from a different religion meets them and asks them about GOD, they go on OUR LORD IS THE MOST POWERFUL LORD, ONLY WE GURUSIKHS ARE WORTHY OF HIS COURT..blah blah freaking blah...stupid illetrate punks. How different is that from those jihadis, who they think the lord loves them more than the whole world and all other religions dont stand up to theirs. Maharaj created all religions, have respect for everything not just yourselves and your biased thoughts. Singh Vigilance ji, you have already done langar sewa to me just by writing it. I humbly appreciate your service, and salute you. I salute every pathi sitting and reading Guru granth sahib ji when I bow to our Guru Granth sahib ji (matha tekna)..WHY??? He takes my lords name, our lords name. I am in chandigarh brother, do let me know where you are. And i will do my best to visit you on a weekend, however this time you will give me the honour of serving you langar or help you in some other way. Someone asked what is Har Har Hare.. You still dont know after reciting Jap ji sahib, Rehras sahib? Har/Hari, is what our guru's reffered to the Allmighty as. He has billions of names. Vaheguru/Hari/Har Har Hare, is just what I prefer addressing Maharaj as. I can take your lines and cry over them as well but HINDU ALERT HINDU ALERT Not worth my time. I can really step on your tail but few others have done a good job. I usually get out of line and quite abusive when it comes to propogating hindus like you, I can just sense it in your lines. ewwwwww So you can take all the lines and cry the ocean over it. Sat Shri Akal not namaste

I think it's not the battery it's your laptop, Replace it. Lol U've heard the others.

I don’t worship idols or anyone but Nirankar Vaheguru, if you would like me to leave I suggest you and others petition the admin of this forum and I will leave. Why do I have a picture of Shiva up? Because Shiva represents “That which is not” and he cheeses narrow minded village folk off. So in your view "Narrow minded Village Folks" have no value they are not worthy of Guru's Bani? Explain What is Nirankar in your view? Net Warrior

Sun Singh Ji you are absolutely right. Obviously, Jap Har Har has knowledge about God and the path to achieve it but Guru's path is not for Jap Har Har. Singh Valiance great work on explaining things. Jap Har Har Nobody is forcing anything on you to keep hair or not. It's completely your choice and you are reasoning your way out by saying that living in Anti Sikh neighborhood pushed you towards this. Basically I can see your parents were the reaon you had to keep long hair, it was imposed Sikhi, fault is not yours but of your parents who were Sikh impostors. It's understood Guru never blessed your parents. That imposing of keeping hair became the reason. Yes Guru will do kirpa one day and without imposing you will realize that you should keep your hair long. My Question to you is and I am not looking for an answer based on Gurbani What does long hair do to you? Guru Fateh Jio.

Who's asking? "A Jatt?" edited you are a victim of a caste system even in ur quote it's about Dhanna Jatt, you are divided. Sikhism is a religion and it's not some "ism" Nonesens, Got it BOY? Keep ur divsion Jatt to yourself and limited to your family no need to bring it out in Public. If you need more on the "ism" then let me know. edited Khalsa AkalPurakh Ki Fauj.

Brother keep your hair as they are valuable and very valuable. A Story for you. The snow of Kashmir caught fire on 26 December 1963. Inspite of severe cold and snow, many Muslims, filled with anger, were setting fire in the Market of Shri Nagar. What was the matter? Once sacred HAIR of Hazrat Muhammad Sahib which was lying safely in the Mosque of Shri Nagar for many hundred years was stolen by somone. Rupees One Lack reward was annoucned for a person who will find out that hair and Rs. 500 to the person who will give clue to find out by the Kashmir Govt. It became so serious that Nehru specially had to announce on the Radio to provide all the required help. Although the Muslims do not keep hair themselves but the vast faith and zeal which they exhibited for the ONE HAIR of their prophet who kept hair was the excellent example of their devotion for the prophet. Do you about Pir Budhu Shah? This Muslim fought on the side of Guru Gobind Singh Ji in the battle of Bhangani. At the fair well Pir Budhu Shah asked for Guru Ji's Kanga and sacred hair and placed them in Golden Box and had Darshan of Guru Ji in those hair and Kangha after bath at the time of his morning prayers. This Kangha is still lying in the Treasure of Maharaja Nabha. Guru Ji sent letter to congregation of kabul on 26th Jeth Samvat 1756, he wrote: Ek Onkar Sat Guru Ji Sahai Sarbat Sangt Kabal guru Rakhega, tusa ute sadi bahut khushi hai. Tusa khande da Amrit Pnja to Laina. Kes Rakhne, ih sai mohar hai. Kachh Kirpan da visah nahi karna, sarab loh da karha hath rakhna, dono vaqat kesa di palna karni, sarab sangat abhakhya ka kutha khave nahi, Tabacco na vartna, bhadni tatha kanya maran wale se milap n rakhe...Gurbani parhni, WaheGuru, WaheGuru Japna, Guru ki rahit rakhni. Bhai Nand Lal Singh Ji (Poet of Guru Ji's court writes that he can sacrifice both the worlds over the One Beautiful Hair of Guru Ji. Har do alam keemte, Yak tar muye yar ma. In "Tankhan Nama" he writes the order of Guru Ji to Sikh as: Kangha dono waqt kar, pag chune kar Bandh-ee. "Pag Chune kar bandh-ee" mean a Sikh is to untie the turban layer bye layer and each time tie the turban laye by layer. Starching the turban and tying one day and then removing like Cap and using like this many day is not accepted. This is symbol of Laziness. Poet Sainapat aka Saina Singh writes in Gursobha: Huka n peeve, sis darhi n mundave so to WaheGuru WaheGuru Guru Ji Ka Khalsa. Concept of keeping hair and beard unshorn was in practice long ago. Guru Gobind Singh Ji sealed it as a must for his Singhs. Bhai mani Singh Ji Shaheed writes in "Gyan Rattanavle" that when Bahi Mardana Ji started for preaching 1st time accepting the order of Guru Nanak Sahib, he asked for his advise from Guru Ji. Guru Ji said: 1. Keep the hair unshorn. 2. Do Nam Simran rising early in the morning. 3. Serve the righteous persons who visit you. When Bahi Nand Lal Puri came to Guru Har Rai Ji in village Galotia, on asking for advice Guru Ji said: 1. Keep hair unshorn. 2. Don't use tabacco. 3. Don't war cap. When UNO came to know about the precepts of Guru's in Shri Guru Granth Sahib, it got some Banis translated in English and some other languages. When this compilation was ready, the great Research Scholar and historian of America, Mr. Tyanabi was selected to write its prface. An American woman asked Mr. Tyanabi that you have written about the persons of whole world, met person of different caste and creed, have understood their rites-customs and religious philosophies. On the basis of this experience can you tell me that who is the most beautiful person of the world? Mr. Tyanabi immediately replied "A gursikh with Hair and open beard." On hearing this she was astonished and immediately asked another question "Tell me that who is the most ugly person of the world?" Mr Tyanabi replied by changing the first reply to some extent "That Sikh who has shor (cut) his hair and beard" Asa ki //: Hukam maniai hovey parvan ta khasmeh ka meha paesi. Khasmeh bhave so kari, manho chindia so phal paesi. Ta dargeh paidha jaesi. Babba Ji don't commit a murder of your hair. If Guru can sleep on the floor for us and we cannot make a small sacrifice of Rugby? If you have passion for Rugby then play with your long hairs. Be the underdog and Guru will do Kirpa and you will become a role model, health and wealth will be at your feet. Choice is yours, You want to be blessed by Guru and be famous? OR You want to be lost cut your hair and lose the Glory you are about to get in your future?

Bhinderanwale has been dead for close to 2 decades, its about time the sikhs of punjab man up and clean up thier act. Our community has a problem of idolizing the leaders of the past without working towards the future. Sikhs need to remove themselves from a postion of followers to individuals, sikhs are stuck in an unfortunate cycle that makes them rally behind single leaders and then they become dissarayed until the next one pops up. SunnyGrewal I totally agree with you. But their is a process which needs to be followed. Do you think you can dig out the Sikh youth of Punjab out of drugs and put them in a corner and they will start reading Gurbani in a night? When you go to Punjab to talk to these people you need to speak their language. Was Sant Ji effictive? YES because he spoke in their language and these farmers are working too hard and have no time for becomming that individual you are talking about. They have become animals working with animals and no support what so ever from the Govt. "They have become animals" and here I am talking about poor Sikh farmers not filthy rich. These farmers can only follow there is no way they can become leaders. Mehtab Singh "On another note, by taking this step, won't the Sikhs be indirectly punishing thousands of innocent and starving poor people for no fault of theirs? Will Gurujee, who started Langar to feed the hungry ever forgive those Sikhs who do this? I am interested to know that as well" Those thousands of innocent are the very reason those Anti Sikh Govt's are in place and these are very same people who were involved in 84 Anti Sikh Riots. Sikhs can stand up and act as a result their own condition gets better without doing "Chak De Phatey". Govt of India is holding enough reserve to feed it's population two years of protest can bring Govt of India to it's kness for sure when they will have to open up their own food source for the public. It's a very good system if implemented Govt will answer and will start to care for the Ann Datta of India. This just not include Farmers of Punjab and it goes for the farmers of India regardless their religious backround. If hindus can have Langars in Mandirs then let's put them to test and let's put the Govt to test if they can come any close to Guru Nanak's Langar. Do you think these farmers are Sikhs? as they are doing some sort of poopy drug or so. But again all is talk no action, Yes Idea is right here but who is willing to get our smart heads together and put it to work? It's quite entertaining to type up our ideas and become some sort of self appointed scholar but again it's a Net world How many of us can spare some time and are willing to do something? Give me the count. Mehtab Singh and SunnyGrewal are 2 and I'll be the last. I'll do Guru Fateh If I can have at least 50 reader joining in.

He is picking on little young Sikh boys with well planned attack where his bunch of looser friends are probably standing behind the camera. I bet if this guy picks on somone of his own age and most likely won't repeat his stupdity in future. What's the point he is trying to make? Expression of his hate? Well what ever he's done didn't make any point as it seems like those Sikh boys had no clue from where he is comming from and what was his motive. But Yes action is needed to put an end to his stupdity. Any Singh from UAE, With his actual where abouts? or suggest some solid solution to end this beside calling upon non acting Police. Guru Fateh Jio. PS: SunnyBondSingh Ji, Can you direct me to this guys phone number? Thanks BondSinghJi, I called the number and phone is switched off and I'll keep calling till I exchange words with this fool.

XHarinder Ji, So when u moving to BC? I'll tell Gora Atheist gone Sikh due to my level of thinking to fetch you at the Airport. But again with ur level of thinking Sangat is must and when you go to Gurudwara then you'll have to deal with this Sangat and this Sangat will offer you chairs in Langar and other Sangat will oppose then comes to the Guru Ka Langar with Pizza ordered or Subway Sandwiches, how can you not interact with these people? You want to come to my level? Try living 6yrs without talking to anyone. Only then you can come down to my level of thinking, comone be as humble as you can be. And G.Kaur did hit the point. Thank You G.Kaur Ji. Jo Sukh Chajju De Chaubaray, Na Balkh Na Bukharay. Stop living in fear of future, learn to live in Present. Guru Fateh Jio.

Mehtab Ji you got a point. Same was done in Khalistan case but that was back then when india thought they can cut Punjab out from the rest of the world. Farmers are uneducated and youths are hooked on drugs, Thanks to Punjab Police of India. But these very farmers hold lot of power. Crop was delayed just 2 months this year into the market and every sector pancked as crop in market circulates the money and then Bhayia not comming to punjab but going to other industrial states for work. As result at present Punjab Govt is trying to get in moderen Machinery for farmers after all it's bread and butter of India but they keep it at the point where they don't let this butter melt . Bharti Kisan Union is there to bring awarness in farmers but again top leaders turn politicians and turn their back on farmers. If Govt can impose delayed planting of Rice and impose fines who plant early then Farmers should have right to grow what ever they feel like. If Farmers get organized and start to plant desi wheat rather than Amercian as production is far less then nobody can say that Sikhs are trying to starve the hindu nation. They are the owner of their land and can do what ever they want. Also know this Sikhs are not allowed to purchase land in Rajistan and Badal family supposingly a Sikh family, lol. Purchasing lots of land in Rajistan every year, and state of the art irrigation system is in place. Obviously they will be in favor of diverting waters of Punjab to Rajistan by canals. They are getting their share of wealth by kissing Indian Govt's rear. Punjab's farmer (Sikhs) will starve in future and lots of other evils comming along as Govt is failing to do anything for Punjab, read news on the right on Water Pollution. Who's looking for the benefit of the farmers of the Punjab? Nobody, and all we can do is type up here and that's the end of the story. But we can change all that by getting organized and let "Singh_Valiance" be the leader in Punjab on this issue and everybody can support him from here. It's all about action and putting the idea to work, since we are so worried about our fellow Sikh farmers, who might not even be considered Sikh by a lot as these farmers cut their hair and their kids are hooked on doday or fansi. Who will do the Justice? ONE man force is needed. Body like Sant Bhinderanwale is needed to free punjab from drugs and to bring the revolution. Guru Fateh Jio.

You should know that Farmers cannot store food more than they need, So another alternative is grow only as much is needed. If they just do this for 2yrs in a row, I bet you Govt will be on it's knees and condition of farmer will dramatically change, Govt will step in to protect the farmers. Your option 2 selling to market on it's own or to Pakistan. Who will impliment it? You think Indian Govt will allow it? Few months ago I heard some news that a website was created where farmer can go online and sell out of state, I am sure somone here might be able to put up the link. But even if that site is working then for poor farmer who will put up the listing on the net? If that site is working model then we should get together and start to donate computers to those villages and make sure you don't send computers from here, get money buy them in India. Few years ago I sent about 100 of them at somone's request and it was some politician and to this date they are supposingly sitting with the customs and I don't even want to know what happened with them. Guru Fateh Jio.

Sikhs in cold places in Europe shud seriously think to migrate to BC. I am warning u people, GET THE HELL OUT OF UR PLACE BEFORE ITS TOO LATE...... Take my predictions seriously, i am a real true sant babaa, hahahahaha Migration based on what? Enough FOB's over there. Visiting is OK but living you can't even think about when majority population is Gavar. Some lady wanted "pi-epa" from me and it took me about 20mins to figure out that she wanted straw. Then other one was asking me if I ever had a "Pee-Ja & Sttraaa-Bary chake" She asked me what I do so I told her that I do Janitorial work and recently have been promoted just to clean the toilets with brush, at this she told me that she works in a Candy Factory wrapping candies and she does this sitting in Couch. A Year ago my borther in law moved there and couldn't stand it and was back in 3 months. Next topic how to deal with Fobness?