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WGJKWGJKF ... Try giving Sikh Help Line a call. http://www.sikhhelpline.com/uk/index.php If not any good then just contact me and I see if someone can provide you with some support. Thank you for highlighting this. WGJKWGJKF

WGJKWGJK, I personally think you should marry her, you had pre-marital relationship you both consented. At some point you should marry, that does not mean you should continue to indulge in this activity. This is our sister / daughter and you both have violated the Sikh way of life. Personal message me if you need someone to talk to, or even if she needs some counselling we are here to help. We need to contain this so you and her do not go and think it is ok to indulge in this sort of behaviour whilst you are both are single. We are living in Kaljug and there is a lot of fire and hot energy in youth, we need you both to put that energy into your Sikhi. This can be done only by the Grace of the True Guru. Goto the Gurdwara on your own take in the hukkamama and apply it to your life. As gianiji to translate and when you do your ardass beg for forgivingness. I agree nobody is perfect, only the True Guru is perfect in every way imaginable. Dhan Dhan Maharaj Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, Dhan Dhan Teri Sikhi. WGJKWGJKF

Maybe Waheguru is telling you to don a Dastar .... and stand out from the crowd :cool2: let us know if you need to know how.

So do you go there often ? :biggrin2:

Futhehji. This bhai sahibji is a ledgend. Can't wait ........ Wgjkwgjkf

Please can you personal message me with your details and I know someone you can talk to. WGJKWGJKF.

WGKKWGJKF - Same here when i took Amrit the Punj Pyare did not mention anything, even though I told them the position. My wife was fully supportive and kep't her in the loop. When you took Anand Khraj in front of Maharaj you were a couple. Everyone else is a grandmother, mother, sister and daughter. Personally and please forgive me if I have got this totally wrong why do some punj pyare have these rules and the other do not. I did say to the punj pyare i can guarantee my head but not my wife's. They siad ok thats fine. Back to you veerji. Go and get your wife back on the basis that you will have a Physical Relationship, then move out from your parents. So you are both together away from parents and start building your life. You may have to do pesh later if you feel you must. Regards to your loss of the unborn. Do some Sukhmani Sahib paat, Chaupi Sahib for the loss. Maybe karma coming to bite you or your wife. Do ardas and beg for forgivness of what has happened and beg for that soul to be with the almighty. Bhul Chuk Marfee. If you need someone to talk too then I got someone who is good at these issues personal message me. By the Grace of the True Guru. WGJKWGJKF.

Futhehji, It's easy just make sure you fill in the form honestly. When i bought the missus over, they wanted 3 pay slips so i sent 6, they wanted 1 p45 I sent 3. I sent them all our letters exchanged, qualifications text messages and emails. Sent them photos, mortgage statements and bank statements. The trick is not to give them an excuse to say. They looked at the application and did not even interview my wife or me. This is the most important part is the declaration that you have a job (with proof from a letter from HR), enough room in the house (mortgage statement and declaration) and enough funds in your account so you are not dependent on government funds. My wife came on an engagement Visa on the provision we get married within 2 months of her landing ..... any more info email me ajitpal_lotay@hotmail.com Dhan Dhan Maharaj Guru Granth Sahib Ji

I agree give him a good beating -------------

Vaheguru Ji Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Futeh. If you need to go then just go. You do not have to dance, drink and eat meat. I usually end up as the driver for these things and end up at the back of the hall looking up at the ceiling. Last time I went to the local Gurdwara and stayed there until the party finished. I know family members are going to drink so I just go as i would rather not risk them drink driving. Sometimes all it needs is an image of a Gur Sikh to change peoples lives. My two ruppees worth! Sangat ji may have different views. Vaheguru Ji Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Futeh

WGJKWGJKF - If anyone needs someone to talk to personal message me and i can put you through. It's good to talk with the Saadh Sangat. WGJKWGJKF

Waheguru Ji Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Futeh Please can you personal message me and I will put you in touch with some bibea who have gone through similar situation. It's good to talk with the Saadh Sangat. Waheguru Ji Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Futeh

Just goto the SAS website. It is all there. http://www.sasorg.co.uk/ wgjkwgjkf

WGJKWGJKF Does any of the Sangat know about this? http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/photo.php?fbid=10150111307892175&set=a.439219992174.217651.560162174&theater

futehji, I must admit sometimes i do go to the weddings and parties, as a driver. usually end up at the back of the hall staring into the ceiling,or thing about the Gurus. I remember one time where there was a hall not far from a Gurdwara and i went in till my family came out of the party hall and called me. I guess Guruji tests us in all sorts of ways, and just sometimes you will be tested. Have faith in your Amrit and always remember we are the sons and daughters of Guru Gobind Singh Ji. I know it mammat where i need to go but then if i dont somebody in my family may end up drink driving then if something was to happen ..... then what? In my opinion you need a balance of spiritual and temporal awareness ... just my opinion i maybe wrong... wgjkwgjkf

A Beauty Parlour is no place for a Gursikh. wgjkwgjkf

wgjkwgjkf I have nominated Roop Singh, Leeds wale as i believe his knowledge of Sikhi is high and he is in touch with the common issues of the panth. Please take a look at http://www.roopsingh.com/ Now how do we make this happen? Is there any other people who have been nominated. Roop Singh is available. wgjkwgjkf

Navneet Singh (Coventry Wale) Kam Singh (Coventry Wale) Tarsem Singh (Coventry Wale) Roop Singh (Leeds Wale) Sukha Singh (Gravesend Wale) Mohan Singh (Birmingham Wale) SAS (Sikh Awareness Society) Davinder Singh (Coventry Wale) Whats the procedure now ...... do we need to contact them .... Just give me a shout if you need any of the above parchar's Ajitpal Singh

wgjkwgjkf - Jas Singh Ji Thanks for the post, a lot of Sikhs come to this cross point in their lives. The main thing is we need to look at our Guru's for role models. Guru Sri Gobind Singh Ji is our true father. The question you should be asking yourself is 'What kind of son's and daughters are we if we do not represent our father?' If you want to discuss more then send me a message. I can put you through to some great Singhs who will show you the path towards the Guru. wgjkwgjkf

Veerji is correct. Let us know where you live, and maybe we can get someone to talk to you on a one to one basis. Or just send one us a personal message if you do not want to disclose. wgjkwgjkf.

WGJKWGJKF Who was the speaker?

WGJKWGJKF I will ask around the Coventry Area. WGJKWGJKF

We are not here to emmulate, compete or compare. The point i was making if it works for you then it's all good. Just cause our veer takes 7 mins does not mean he is not doing it correctly. If anyone wants a DVD on how to Bani Shud then message me and I will try and get it to you. WGJKWGJKF

WGJKWGJKF 7 mins is quick. To put this is perspective Baba Deep Singh did 101 Jap Ji Sahibs a day @ 25 mins 25 * 101 / 60 = 42hrs @7 Mins 7mins * 101 / 60 = 11.7 hrs So Baba Deep Singh must be going at some to to 101 JapJi Sahibs per day Sant Jarnail Singh some said used loads as well. Doing Japji Sahib quick in my opinion is not a problem as long as you take something from it.