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btw, slightly off topic, but my mate went to wikipedia and found something along the lines of: Vaisakhi is widely celebrated by sikhs in the Punjab (a province of Pakistan) i think it was this actually: Vaisakhi is widely celebrated by sikhs in the Pakistan province of Punjab But anyway he changed it to: Vaisakhi is widely celebrated by Sikhs in Punjab. Also good discussion+education for people on sikh channel discussion last night, especially the part about the indian government not recognising the sikh faith and regarding as a part of hinduism - by law which a lot of people don't know about

As people have said already - compromise. The thing i took from your post was that he said he's like his mother to come and stay with you guys AFTER his sisters are married. Now i don't know how long that will be, but i'm guessing if you marry him in 'year 1' then it will take another two years at least for the sisters to marry - can't see two girls of one family being married in the same year. so initial stages of family life will be on your own anyway. a) it is VERY rare that a guy says straight up, i want to look after my mum when she's alone - usually it's an obligation b) no offence or whatever but in reality how long do you think you will have to look after her anyway after his sisters are married; and how long will she be able to 'affect' your kids lives - if she's that sort of person - with her getting old and not being able to offer much more than love and comfort to grankids. c) as i said, you'll be on your own for a while, and then you won't have long with her, and even then you'll probably be working mostly, AND when you're both home your husband will most likely do most of the caring. d) you will have time alone with your husband until sister's get married, and after that she will most likely, on occasion, go and stay with her daughters. Also where would his mother go, if he wasn't there to look after her? living on her own? in an old peoples home? (which i've never heard of from an indian family, although it probably happens)

they should put that winston churchill quote up about sikhs not wearing helmets, only turbans, in the world wars

yeah that was a bit different from the first time i wrote it, but basically all the same stuff. I was gonna say, i'm sure it could be improved if someone wants to use it, let's see what happens...

Remember this and recite it when you see a pretty girl etc. dekh praayian chungian, mava, bhana, dhian janai

wow, now that's a proper complaint lol. i sent this, not as good but there you go: I am writing to complain about Adil Ray undermining the core principle's of a baptised sikh. During the talk about the cancellation of the Gurdas Mann Concert Adil came out and said along the lines of "that's a stupid reason for having a kirpan and do sikhs really need them?" The kirpan is a symbol of the sikh faith and is also defined as the sword of mercy. Used to defend others in dire need and when a person is in a life threatening situation. When he comments upon other asian religions (hardly ever), he's made to take it back and apologise, as are other people across the media. He has been impolite about the sikh religion on previous occasions as well, and this must not go on. Convieniently that particular show http://www.bbc.co.uk...etwork/adilray/ is unavailable, where as previous ones are still available. Also in terms of respect for the sikh faith, hundreds of thousands of sikhs fought and died for the allied forces in the world wars, where as the were hardly any hindus or muslim. That is not bias, it is what the unbiased records from various sources show. i hope the bbc will take the corect action. In my opinion, an apology from Adil on his show and a warning to him about his furute conduct would suffice at this moment in time. Thankyou, from A sikh. Dam, so many typos, oh well they'll get the gist of it

i made a complaint, but looks like i'm gonna have to do it again. wrote a really long 'letter', went back to copy and paste to put on here just in case, but the info wasn't retained. i clicked forward and sent it just in case. Here http://www.bbc.co.uk/asiannetwork/adilray/ on the right hand side, previous shows are available, thursday one isn't...

yeah good one, someone hit a nerve? :rolleyes: the ramgarhia and ravidas name their gurwara's after their jaat or after bhagat ravidaas trying to signify a 'low caste' gurdwara. oh i give up, before going any further, some people are just uneducated and unwilling to learn or realise what unity means. if you go to a smagam at a gurdwara, say you go to a rehansabhai all the khalse in the sangat are khalse - nothing else. once you take amrit, caste goes out the window, so it doesn't matter what caste you are. if you haven't taken amrit then you can float around in the caste system without realisation of what guru ji says - not everyone does but it doesn't dispell the notion. there's 101 things i could go on about. but what do they matter when those that don't wanna listen, won't. and those that want to listen will have already heard. there are those that want unity, and those that will always look to cause problems and can't see past their ego. guru kirpa kare... vjkk, vjkf

vjkk, vjkf some of the comments under the video, and you can imagine amongst people, are that he's a sant and we shouldn't say bad things about him. and that people just do matha tek but it doesn't mean he condones it. he's done so much good and donated so much etc etc. all i know is, if he doesn't condone matha tek to him he should be coming out and telling people not to do it, and have people around him to stop people doing it. and when mann done it - he had his back to guru ji :o and we all know the meaning of that. and whatever gurdwara that was - the khalsa does not do moorti pooja - and they had a photo to bow down to, i think i know who's it was but not 100%, but it doesn't matter who was in the photo. also this guy looks like the one who made people put tilak on sggs is it the same one?

:6 idiots

vaheguru

noooo, if we can help her to not do it then it's better - or do you not think so...

stop thinking like that as well, becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. if you keep saying you're addicted, then everytime you go to play it, and maybe you don't want to - you'll end up saying oh i can't help it i'm addicted. NOOOO sometimes you just have to say know. change your thinking to that you just really enjoy playing it, but you don't HAVE to. and try today or whatever to realy cut down and play less. NO MATTER WHAT - set a time or something and even if you're in the middle of something, save it ASAP and switch it off and something else, maybe listen to kirtan/katha on pc while you're on here. it might not happen the first day - but then you'll be really disappointed and it'll happen eventually - you'll 'grow' out of it, i used to play ps2 for hours in the summer, but i hardly play now

I'm slowly getting around to posting on this 'topic' but what are the mods doing - can't you copy and paste the last page and make a new thread on meat and rehat. and bring this one back round to whatever it was meant to be :umm:

There's this bibi from germany, who is a white bibi, she became a sighni, speaks punjabi perfectly and does katha. she's really outgoing, but quite strong in her views. anyway, this below is after you're married, let alone before ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ਘਰੁ ੧ ॥ सिरीरागु महला ५ घरु १ ॥ Sirīrāg mėhlā 5 gẖar 1. Siree Raag, Fifth Mehl, First House: ਕਿਆ ॥ किआ तू रता देखि कै पुत्र कलत्र सीगार ॥ Ki▫ā ṯū raṯā ḏekẖ kai puṯar kalṯar sīgār. Why are you so thrilled by the sight of your son and your beautifully decorated wife? ਰਸ ॥ रस भोगहि खुसीआ करहि माणहि रंग अपार ॥ Ras bẖogėh kẖusī▫ā karahi māṇėh rang apār. You enjoy tasty delicacies, you have lots of fun, and you indulge in endless pleasures. ਬਹੁਤੁ ॥ बहुतु करहि फुरमाइसी वरतहि होइ अफार ॥ Bahuṯ karahi furmā▫isī //ṯėh ho▫e afār. You give all sorts of commands, and you act so superior. ਕਰਤਾ ॥੧॥ करता चिति न आवई मनमुख अंध गवार ॥१॥ Karṯā cẖiṯ na āvī manmukẖ anḏẖ gavār. ||1|| The Creator does not come into the mind of the blind, idiotic, self-willed manmukh. ||1|| It's more about detachment kis naal keechai dosti sabh jug chalanhaar and ਏਹੁ ਕੁਟੰਬੁ ਤੂ ਜਿ ਦੇਖਦਾ ਚਲੈ ਨਾਹੀ ਤੇਰੈ ਨਾਲੇ ॥ This family which you see shall not go along with you. <a class="dict" href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A5%E0%A8%BF" onmouseover="ddrivetip('isāth /i From Sātha', 250)" ;="" onmouseout="hideddrivetip()">ਸਾਥਿ ਤੇਰੈ ਚਲੈ ਨਾਹੀ ਤਿਸੁ ਨਾਲਿ ਕਿਉ ਚਿਤੁ ਲਾਈਐ ॥ They shall not go along with you, so why do you focus your attention on them? AND ok too long to quote but http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=1353&g=1&h=1&r=1&t=1&p=0&k=0 if that link works - at the bottom, salok sehaskriti muhula 5, read to bottom and then go onto 1354 for another couple of paurian. so the 5 thieves, KAAM, krodh, LOBH, MOH, hunkar - are all fed by such a relationship, especially the capital letter ones. but krodh to others who might look at ''your'' boyfriend and hunkar that he is ''yours'' occurs, but is false and avoidable. As you say you seek physical contact/attachment. I know it must be difficult for you, and maybe you don't want to make that sacrifice as it were. but listening to katha, understanding the meaning and gian guru ji is giving us will elevate you above it - BUT it is not easy to obtain that, it is a stage of 'intelligence'/budhi/gian, where eventually you might posses brahmgian. and i don't believe you should have premarital sex, as part of maryada - it would unnatural if it's protected, and if it's not 'safe' then you might become pregnant without being married and there are plenty of quotes for that from guru ji. bhul chuk maaf karni, Vaheguru ji ka khalsa, Vaheguru ji ki fateh.

I think i've seen your blog, while searching for kirtan. if it's the same one can you post the vaheguru simran done on the guitar by a bibi ji - sounds beautiful

anything?

like shadow said, i think you should ask panj piyare. and if you absolutely can't do without it, maybe they will say do a certain amount of japji sahib's each day or whatever. are you taking for a set period or indefinitely?

question - are vegetables included in the 84lakh joon?

I dunno, i'm not in canada, just saw the story

LOL, sorry dunno why but that did make me laugh. maybe i shouldn't get a PS3 then. It's just about discipline i guess. when you're doing path and simran just concentrate on that, realise that this is the time for naam japna and relax into it and realise that you will have loads of time for PS3 anyway. like if you're on holidays, you could play from mid morning to late afternoon and stuff, but when you have to do path, relax and don't rush it cause the PS3 aint going anywhere, your time for bhagati is. Also when you're playing ps3 some games require less concentration where you could be doing moolmantar and simran. while for others you could have bani or katha playing on your hi-fi or whatever - with katha, you might not be fully concentrating, but somethings will go in. you could have kirtan of shabads and simran and sing along while playing, that's really fun sometimes even just to listen to. Also in what way were you into sikhi more than you are now - so what has lessened since the ps3 obsession lol

http://sikhsangat.org/2009/08/vancouver-sikh-school-fire-definitely-arson-police/ Vancouver, Canada: A Sikh school was set on fire on Thursday but shockingly the Canadian police has confirmed that the fire was deliberately set, and are appealing to the public for assistance in locating a possible witness. The fire spread quickly and destroyed the Khalsa School near the intersection of Fraser Street and 45th Avenue in East Vancouver. There were no injuries. ... Holy scripture recovered The school’s little gurdwara was also destroyed, and many feared the Sikh holy book, the Guru Granth Sahib, had been destroyed, but after the flames were extinguished, firefighters entered the charred buildings, recovered the scriptures, brought it out covered in a white cloth and turned it over to a school official. The Granth Sahib was undamaged, and members of the gurdwara attributed it to the will of the Akal Purakh. A Sikh granthi dressed in white robes and a white turban spread a large white sheet on which which the scripture was placed, and then wrapped in the sheet and carried by the priest on his head while the sangat followed behind.

how can you say khalistan is unjust, when it hasn't even been created yet - and you don't know what it means or what exactly it will be like . Was the rule of maharaja ranjit singh unjust - that was khalsa raj, a united and inclusive raj. also if you don't believe in it then you won't agree with it. But if khalistan is created, and if it is say deemed the land of the pure and free exclusively, how can you call it unjust. Where caste and creed would not exist, as it is only within the khalsa that such things are destroyed, if you're not an amritdhari sikh then you are seen as being part of a certain jaat or culture - not a discrimination, just a fact. However, whatever your background, if you become amritdhari, it goes out the window and there is equality.

how can you say khalistan is unjust, when it hasn't even been created yet - and you don't know what it means or what exactly it will be like . Was the rule of maharaja ranjit singh unjust - that was khalsa raj, a united and inclusive raj. also if you don't believe in it then you won't agree with it. But if khalistan is created, and if it is say deemed the land of the pure and free exclusively, how can you call it unjust. Where caste and creed would not exist, as it is only within the khalsa that such things are destroyed, if you're not an amritdhari sikh then you are seen as being part of a certain jaat or culture - not a discrimination, just a fact. However, whatever your background, if you become amritdhari, it goes out the window and there is equality.

humkire, that really was an inspiring post, thank you.