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look at the comments, the musis are going on about masala for some reason. does anyone know who this guy used to be and where he is now?

you contradict yourself mate. of course i'm not saying we do it forever. sometimes the end justifies the means. learning to fire guns, fight, organise military forces, is not something you are born with. you have to learn it. i thought i was pretty good at military stuff until i was thrown in a room with other people my age and other races and tested. i was above average, but nowhere near a military genius. but with the right training and my own hard work thats changed. you mention a hundred years ago, but most of the goreh alive then are dead now. and if you are an officer, you will be the one who gets saluted. i could say the same about all those sikhs in the hindustani armed forces. we want to create a state safe from evil and corruption. if our generation has to do somethings that arent appealing and avoids them then we wont get anywhere. like you said 'if only sikhs could train sikhs'. well learn what others need to know and teach them.

thats a good idea trusoul. and to those who say they are too old for sixth form, if your unemployed the army has a lot of skills that it can teach you. if you have a job then there is the TA (officer or soldier). if your at uni think about this http://www.army.mod.uk/UOTC/joining.aspx http://www.ulotc.co.uk/ i'm sure most unis have one.

no, he thought they wouldnt fight. then they battered him. then he ran off back to canada. pretty simple if you read the article. i'm sorry but now you sound like those gimpy hindu punjabi canadians who get all their battles fought by sikhs. stop spreading hate. i've been to canada and i couldnt stop laughing. most people view canadians dimly in the rest of the world, that now seems to apply to both the white and sikh population there. there are 278,000 sikhs in canada. there are 380,000 sikhs in britain. canada has a population of 33 million. britain has a population of 64 million. go and do the maths. also sikhs are more spread out in britain. if we concentrated ourselves in 2 minicolonies then we would 'run ****' as you lot say. its part of epigenetics. have a look on wikipedia or a proper textbook. genes is not all about height and weight, study a bit more about it. i was going to go into a lengthy explanation with an analogy but most people wont get it and just accuse me of this or that so i wont bother. http://www.torontomuslims.com/thinking/muslimsincanada.asp ^worrying trends. its only recently musis have outpopulated you. it wont be long before they use those numbers. oh well. no one ever said genetics is the sole cause of anything in your life. thats just dumb to believe. epigenetics explains how it works, and the the guy you mentioned is just getting fame and money off people's simple beliefs and lack of understanding of how science affects our lives. Also why do i feel so much animosity from our canadian brethren? were we not from the same stock 50 years ago? are we not still the same? in times of trouble we will only have each other!

i bet these people would have whined when sirhind went up in smoke aswell.

i'm only condmening him because he got caught. if you want to do these things, use your bloody brain. at least the article gave the main things that will be used against him, so take note. plenty of people do it and get away with it.

For centuries, Hindu women have worn a dot on their foreheads. Most of us have naively thought this was connected with tradition or religion. But the Hindustani Embassy in London has recently revealed the true story. When a Hindu woman gets married she brings a dowry into the union. On her wedding night, her husband scratches off the dot to see whether he has won a corner shop, a petrol station, a ladoo shop, a taxi cab or a B&B in Britain. If nothing is there, he must remain in Hindustan to answer telephones and provide us with technical pain-in-the-assistance.

wow that is bad. in between gang shootings and coconutism i think canadian sikhs are becoming an endangered species.

you mention some good points but i dont think you saw something i noticed. the sinhalese are basically sticking 2 fingers up to the west and especially britain. why are they so ballsy? they must have got the nod from somewhere to go all out and not worry about the west's reaction to the atrocities. and its election time in hindustan....... sonia gandhi? or maybe i'm thinking too much.

we dont know that, they may have tried their best. she may have been religous but love drives some people crazy. as for the guy in question, someone i know did something similar and never got caught. its only a crime if you get caught lol!

slumdog <banned word filter activated> = a leader in the old country or in the diaspora who is corrupt and stupid yet very cunning. they dont care for the sikh nation but will use patriotism and sikhi to hold others in their power. they may not be educated at the best institutions but they know how to play the populace, and have popular support because they know all the tricks. read about leaders like cromwell, washington, bismark, mandela and then look at our lot. its time to wise up and create good strong leaders of the panth rather than waiting for them to fall out of the sky. europeans/white americans are not naturally cleverer than us. but they know how to train their youth to maintain a society/nation/country. fgs look at the fact that england has not been invaded fully for almost a thousand years now. a thousand years! we cant even protect amritsar from hindustani armour and troops. and that has to change. also i did not mean id1ots are only found in slums or punjab. if it came across as arrogant or racist then it was not intended.

well if they dont they will end up like those dead bodies in the pictures on the sky news site. its their choice. i'll help, but no one person can carry a whole movement in an intelligent direction. i know that sounds c0cky, but sometimes it seems our leaders like to pull the wool over our own eyes and then complain when we get screwed over. in the end if there is another Ghallooghaaraa, well i know i got a pretty good chance of surviving. if it means the weak die and the strong carry the panth on, then i hope it happens. i know that sounds harsh but thats my opinion so if anyone reads this and doesnt like it then tough.

i hope you noticed how threads about sikhs in the uk always have a certain someone who likes to slander his brothers. anyway back to the topic: what can we learn off our colonial cousins so we end up as tough as they are?

An English prisoner of war was held by the Germans. The Englishman was shot all over the place, and okay until one day when the German told him, "Englander, your arm is infected with gangrene we must cut it off." The English prisoner said, "Well, okay, but could you drop it over England when you go bombing." The German replied, "Ya, that vill not be a problem." A few weeks later the German tells the Englishman that they have to cut his other arm off. The Englishman says, "Well, could drop it over England like you did last time." "Ya, that will be done," says the German. The next day the German tells him that they have to cut his leg off. Once again the Brit says, "Well, could you do the same as before." The German replies, " ya." The next the German tells him they have to cut his other leg. "Well," begins the Brit, "could you just..." The German snapped, "No! We think you are trying to escape!."

i know what those spanish words mean but emos are emos and i dont like looking at them. also when i said acting like emos i didnt mean physically but their attitude and outlook. if i saw a sikh looking like one i would batter them till they saw sense. dalsingh: that commercial always freaks me out when its on tv. if the hindustanis find out i dont like emos i'm screwed.

kaljug singh why the hell did you put that up!! omg take it down. eurghhh. i wasnt implying that sikh boys are like emos, but now that you mention it, i do see some moping around and acting like them.

Ha! your better of trying to draw blood from a stone.

emos are pale faced kids with weird hair cuts who mope around whining that their lives are miserable and generally being a binch of ***ts. a lot of them are in coventry and other depressing places. if you want to see what they look like type emo into google image search. but be careful their pathetic nature will make you depressed. and no they are not a seperate genetic race. can we go back on topic as emos are really annoying and depressing.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8055015.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/default.stm Well well. It looks like the end of the road. the bbc have a few good discussions on it, but i'm going to create this thread to discuss what is on everyone's mind. what went wrong? the reason i ask is that there are many parrallels with the tamil freedom struggle and the khalistani movement. but the tamils went that one step further - true sovereignty. they controlled a third of the island, built a navy, maintained an air force, along with many other trappings of a nation state. 'so what?' you may ask. my point is this: if we create khalistan and just make it up as we go along, our enemies will just buy bigger guns and then obliterate us. and that is if we create it. looking at the state of the panth and the attitude of many in east punjab i cant see how we could maintain a large armed forces(500000-1000000men and women). now some will say waheguru promised it to us or that the americans never bothered forming a govt until well after they kicked the british out. yet in our lives we face many tests that waheguru puts us through. so why would waheguru just give khalistan to us? surely building a country will be the biggest and hardest test for the khalsa, and will definitely not be achieved by apathy and lethargy. it will require action, preparation and unity. and keeping any state we build out of the clutches of our enemies (internal and external) will be another test for the khalsa that we all supposedly say we are part of. as for american history, all i can say is that the americans wanted one main thing: less tax (some things never change lol). this is what they all fought for. also they had men like washington who were great visionaries and created institutions that would rival all of those in europe. what reason do khalistanis fight for? the uniting principles? to kick hindustan out of east punjab.........a little vague isnt it? of course some of you will propogate some points that could also be considered reasons but they wont apply to every east punjabi. maybe we should start thinking about this. or not in some of your cases. also where are our great leaders. it took 150 years for bhindranwale to come after the death of hari singh nalwa(the true hero of the khalsa raj). but now we have no one. of course there are those quasi-scholars/gurudwara committee lot/wannabe jatha commanders who will all say they should lead. but most of them are lucky to have a peanut between their brains. none understand how the real world works or the preparation that is needed to create a country. the ones who do know the world want to keep us in the dark so they can sell us down the river when the price is right. why dont we resolve this? stop pushing your kids to do dentistry/accounting/pharmacy just because that will mean they can buy you a mercedes when you retire. let the children do what they are good at. let them be the best. let them study at the best institutions that they can but make sure they remember that their duty is to the khalsa. khalistan cant afford to be led by some slumdog idiots. i pointed out in another thread that before partition our leaders where uneducated compared to the hindu and muslim leaders - and look where we ended up because of that. another point is that the americans had massive amounts of help from the french and to a lesser extent the spanish and dutch. after the americans won the other 3 european countries left them alone. who is allied to us, and who would let us live in true independence? and dont say pakistan, they hate our guts and would want to rule us as much as the hindustanis do. so dont expect waheguru to do anything if you sit on your <banned word filter activated>. dont listen to those who say dont worry about how khalistan will work, we'll sort that out later. if you do, expect to see yourself lying dead on the open ground like those tamils. and i'm not just on about in east punjab. sikhs are not safe in any non-sikh country forever. we wont be safe in a sikh country either if we do not outwit our internal and external enemies.

YOUR THE GUY IN THE WHITE T-SHIRT AT 00:38!!!!!!!!!! LOL. WHAT PRIZE DO I GET?

lol, i could sense a trick so i read the column from top to bottom but didnt see anything wrong. then i read the whole thing and was like 'oh s***, i just got owned' lol. An Italian, a Scotsman and a Chinese fellow are hired at a construction site. The foreman points out a huge pile of sand and says to the Italian guy, 'You're in charge of sweeping.' To the Scotsman he says, 'You're in charge of shoveling.' And to the Chinese guy, 'You're in charge of supplies.' He then says, 'Now, I have to leave for a little while. I expect you guys to make a dent in that there pile.' So the foreman goes away for a couple hours and when he returns, the pile of sand is untouched. He asks the Italian, 'Why didn't you sweep any of it?' The Italian replies, 'I no hava no broom. You saida to the Chinese a fella that he a wasa in a charge of supplies, but he hasa disappeared and I no coulda finda him nowhere.' Then the foreman turns to the Scotsman and says, 'And you, I thought I told you to shovel this pile.' The Scotsman replies, 'Aye, ye did lad, boot ah couldnay get meself a shoovel! Ye left th' Chinese gadgie in chairge of supplies, boot ah couldnayfin' him either.' The foreman is really angry now and storms off toward the pile of sand to look for the Chinese guy ...Just then, the Chinese guy leaps out from behind the pile of sand and yells... 'SUPPLIES!!'

A very true point.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?p...3-5-2009_pg7_50 does anyone have anymore details on this?

A professor at Mumbai University is giving a seminar on the supernatural. Getting a feel for his students, he asks “How many of you believe in ghosts?” About 80 of his students raise their hands. “That’s a good start I suppose. Those of you who believe in ghosts, how many have actually seen a ghost?” About 30 students raise their hands. “That’s good. I’m really glad you’re taking this seriously. Ok, has anyone here ever talked to a ghost?” About a dozen students raise their hands. “That’s a great response. Has anyone ever touched a ghost?” Two students raise their hands. “That’s fantastic. But let me ask you one last question… have any of you ever made love to a ghost?” One student in the back raises his hand. The professor is astonished. He removes his glasses, takes a step back, and says, “Son, in all the years I’ve been giving this lecture, no one has ever actually claimed to have slept with a ghost. Why don’t you come up here and tell us about it.” The brahmin student replies with a nod and a grin, and begins to make his way up to the podium. The professor says, “Well, tell us what it’s like to have slept with a ghost.” The student replies, “Ghost? Oh… I thought you said ‘goats’!”

Two Gujaratis, both student of I.T., were talking about the American Astronauts. First Gujarati: What's big in going to the moon, anybody can go there. We are Gujaratis. We will go direct to the sun. Second Gujrati: But sun is too hot, it will melt us. First Gujarati: So what, we will go at night.