Hoshiarpuria

Thank you for the very brilliantly presented and worded magazine about our Mahan Shaheed Sikhs, I hope the readers and the wider Sangat will financially support the next issue.

But you mentioned it before that you dont trust anybody and requested Nevaforget84 to publish a list of needy families so that you can go to Panjab and help them directly...this means you have not done so ! Anyway there is always the "ego " clause to hide behind ! Go on Khalsa Aid,i am with you ,thank god Hulka is not the majority !

So , Hulka Sahib JI What has stopped you all these years from doing anything for the poor Sikhs of Panjab, i am sure you have been to Panjab a few times. At least Khalsa Aid video put the thought of helping Sikhs of Punjab or you would spend your life doing nothing positive. If you go to Panjab to help the Dharmi Faujis i will give you £50, so go ahead and help the needy, no excuses now.

HA ha ha ha ha ...you are not only funny but also the type " DO NOTHING AND DONT LET OTHERS DO ANYTHING EITHER " ! Its shocking how helping the Dharmi Fauji has got anything to do with what you wrote. Its not Khalsa Aid that has put this thread on. The Sikhs in Panjab are under threat from Ravidassias, Rada Swamis,Noor Mahlias, Nirankaris and Christians and you slam other Sikhs. Why dont you raise this with Khalsa Aid ? I bet you have done nothing for the Dharmi Faujis ? Also these Faujis probably drank, ate meat etc etc so does it mean we shouldnt help them...? I hope Khalsa Aid reply to your comments. I wonder why we are in such a state, now i know after reading your extremely negative thread.

Well Said !!

We have already let these Singhs down, please dont let history repeat. Come forward and " adopt " a Dharmi Fauji , i am sure Khalsa Aid can facilitate this.

This is why the Sikhs should support Khalsa Aid instead of giving to the likes of Christian Aid

Lets Say you do a charity event, walk, run, bike ride etc for Khalsa Aid, Oxfam etc. then the chosen charity will provide you with relevent clothing with their logos etc. They will need to know that you are actively fundraising and at least meet a minimum fundraising target , ie £2000 etc.

Is the Federation Of Sikh Organisations ( FSO ) also involved in organising next years Trafalgar Square event ?

I fully agree with Bakaree, it seems that the shouting of slogans once a year is not the way to remember or respect the Shaheeds of 84. The Sikhs who attend the rally in London are the ones who mostly know the history so its our duty to reach out to non Sikhs en route and in Trafalgar Square.I think its vital that we include non Sikh speakers from the British government or human rights organisations ie Amnesty International. We definately need refreshments especially as Langar is the core of Sikhi.the video clips need to be no more than 3 mins long and the banner which read " INDIAN DEMOCRACY " should have had a question mark or something similar or it looks like we were promoting indian democracy.We also have some speakers who have not changed their speeches since 1984 and i think its about time they were given very very little time.AND PLEASE NO MORE " INDRA <banned word filter activated> MARO JUTI " she got more than just juti. We should also invite European Sikhs to attend the London rally, if we can go to France for a day trip then i am sure they can come to London for a day too.Lets make London european centre for the protest !

Will they also register Brit Asia as a Charity ? http://www.charity-c...sidiaryNumber=0

Badal orders security forces to stop the 84 March......Gurdawaras sorrounded in Ropar and Mohali http://www.sikhsiyasat.net/2010/06/02/badal-government-on-the-foot-prints-of-indira-gandhi-aurangzeb/

Please watch first few seconds of this video and you can hear for yourself the insult " Jhanjar Fateh Balandi ". Does anybody know the <banned word filter activated> Danny C, his asking for a thapar.. http://www.punjabimob.tv/videos/658/fateh---danny-c.html

Yeah, lets wait and see . There is no rush to hand money to anybody and then regret it. The money should be handed directly to Sukhwinders Singhs wife or his parents .

Wasnt Jay Sohal the researcher for the 1984 BBC DUCUMENTRY ??

Wasnt Jay Sohal the Turbonolgy maker the researcher for the BBC 1984 DOCUMENTRY ??!!

Balanced ??!! you must be joking...NOT A SINGLE MENTION OF THE ANANDPUR SAHIB RESOLUTION WHICH WAS THE KEY TO EVERYTHING !!

On tonights ( 2nd Jan ) Sikh Channel show " Southall Student Crises " the panel consisted of fraudster Harbans Singh Kohli ( also appeared on previous shows ) , Kohli has conned many small shop keepers out of tens of thousands of £££s . He was sentenced to 4 yrs in prison in 2006 at Northampton court, its a joke that Sikh Channel appointed him as a contact for immigrant student affairs on their behalf !! Sikh Channel probably enjoy donations from the Gurdwara in Ealing which MR Kohli runs and dont care about his victims etc. RUBBING SALT INTO THE WOUNDS OF SMALL BUSINESSES WHICH SUFFERED DUE TO HIS GREED !! http://community.thirdsector.co.uk/search/SearchResults.aspx?u=2583&o=DateDescending

No, they didnt want to go back to India. They informed us that they that they had financial constraints and had either used their entire savings or borrowed heavily.The link Matheen has provided explains the issues the illegal immigrants on Ceuta are facing. Ceuta is not classified as European soil. There are many NGOs in Ceuta providing vital relief etc, we will always be on standby if there is any humanitarian needs for these guys. ".. Recently, the Spanish authorities are really restrictive," says Mr. Cardín. "Only 10 percent can obtain the visa and generally these are really extreme cases, as for Iraqi or Kurdish refugees, victims of sexual and religious discrimination, or people needing deep medical treatments not available in their own country. For the others, only repatriation remains."... ... " After the Indian ambassadress visited the city in 2007," says Gurpreet, spokesman for the "rebels," "the situation became ever worse; almost 50 percent of us were repatriated immediately. Thus, as sign of protest, we decide to take shelter to the forest. We hoped to come to the attention of the community, but, as you can see, after one year, we are still here.... Why didnt the Sikh Channel mention that these guys were approached by Khalsa Aid ? Were the Sikh Channel aware of the approach ?

We must all remember the living Shaheeds behind bars in Hindustani jails and assist their cases wherever and however !! Good luck and well done to SOPW !!!

Now you guys suggesting Sikh Missionary Society for the Langar ??? I was led to believe that all Missionaries are evil ! Admin Note: Looks like the soon-to-be-couple have been given enough suggestions. On behalf of all Sikhsangat administrators, moderators and members, we wish them a happy, blessed and Gursikhi-filled married life. We pray that Gurujee always graces you with chardi kala.

WELL SAID BUNDHA !!!! Its sad when we turn on people or orgs who are genuinly trying to be positive !!! so idiotic !! Congrats to the happy couple, best wishes !!

Ok , *edited* , pls answer just one question " Why dont they show the amount of money coming into their account from the Sangat ?

Its obivious the SC is avoiding it, they had the "EMERGENCY " standby panel ready !!!

SO TRUE !!!!!!!