Deep Singh

Chardee Kalaa Ji, What is the project about? There are lots of 'techie' Singhs/Kaurs here..someone should help you. BTW...what kind of dictionary is it?

:lol: sorry jio, i have not bought the softwarez yet...i was thinking of doing that, but it is too expensive for me (compared to my need for such a punjabi word processer)

Dr. Gupreet Singh Lehal has made the 'Gurmukhi OCR'. Contact him: gslehal@yahoo.com It costs Rs 5000. He has also made the software AKHAR, which is a powerful Punjabi word processor with of uniques featues for Punjabi such as 1. Font conversion between any of the common Punjabi fonts 2. Import/Export to ISCII, Unicode, PDF 3. Support for DOC, HTML and RTF formats 4. Bilingual Punjabi/English spell checker 5. Support for additional dictionaries 6. Onscreen keyboard and support for Romanised Punjabi input 7. Punjabi-English and English-Punjabi Dictionaries 8. Limited Search engine for Guru Granth Sahib 9. Text analysis utility That also costs another Rs 5000. These softwares have not been 'published' yet officially, but he will 'sell' you for that price. I have also contacted bookshops/dealers in Punjab, and none has such software...the only way to get it is: through the man who made it... there have been a couple of articles about him in the Tribune. preety good.

this is old news...and we found out after checking it that the man was related to the family, ie he was a punjabi christian, and not there to seek converts, just there as a family member.

You are absolutely right Mehtab Singh ji...Nit means regular...i just couldn't find the *word* in sense it also means new, but regular is better. regular can be used differently also....look at this...regular like 'simple', or 'common'....or regular like 'going on', 'without stop' etc. it is the last meaning i guess. Nit means that it should be done in punjabi 'naveh siro' everytime. 'nit nit nahi jamdeh surmeh, sant jarnail singh ji wargeh' (that is like dhadi vaaran/kvisri...something like that). it means warriors like sant ji are not born everyday. so that is why i chose to write "new", it should be every day....i know my logic is jammed. :lol: when we think regular, it is in the sense of 'continueous' (not like Akhand), or better 'routine'. so regular is perhaps a better suggestion. i thought of just 'naveh siro' (every time newly) as Nit, that is why...

yeh i understood...congrats! the strange thing is...written danish and norwegian are almost the same...but when i hear danish people speak...it sounds like german.. and i don't get it...

Confused? It is understandable, Yasmin. Yeah...we are talking Sri Guru Granth Sahib, not simply a 'book' for us...it is our Guru...or Prophet..or whatever that is supposed to attach us with God. Yasmin...all Sikhs have Gutkeh, that are extracts of the main Scriptures/Writings, such as the ones that are to be recited in a day, called Nitnaam Bania [nitnaam = 'nit' means new, naam = name, Bani = scripturual work; the Works with Everyday (new) Name...new in the sense that it should be done each day newly] Also Sikhs who want to learn about Gurmat, have Pothis or Sanchis. These have commentary in Punjabi (mostly), or Sri Guru Granth Sahib in several binds (ie Pothis). So Sikhs do use commentaries, various translations, and also have Main Works in Gutkeh (extracted texts). But do have Guru Sahib at home...we need to have a seperate room, and give Guru Sahib the respect, and for that one person has to devote him/herself to the service, therefore most Sikhs don't have a Saroop (or 'copy' of Guru Sahib) at their homes. In India lots of Gursikhs do have...it is a bit harder outsite with the time schedule and different way of life. Such a Saroop does not have translations, or commentaries, only the original text as-it-is. So it is the Guru....therefore most of Sikhs are comfortable with SGGS staying at the Gurdwara. Or if someone decides to have Guru Sahib at home...the same rules as the ones followed at the Gurdwara should be used.

he is a good guy...but i don't think he will be able to solve the turban issue. even though he may try. just as probably all muslim leaders have tried, but it didn't work for them either. france is an independent country, and they don't care about what outsiders think of their policies. that is my opinion.

You are just great Aman bhaji...thanks a lot :lol: this is one of those when i am really happy...i don't mean happy like i am laughing...just happy inside, as Sukh...u know what i mean :T:

Jahan Veerji, one thing is certain: that is ONE HECK OF A NEWS SORTING! thanks a lot...

Khalsa mero roop, thanks a lot for asking this question....i was actually thinking of asking it myself...so now i can just read the replies. but now...i figured out...i would never be able to have Guru Sahib's parkash at my home. (i don't fullfil the requirements) But then again...i am happy with Gurdwara, so i know there is proper respect. I can carry on with Gutkeh and Pothian.

Singh MC...you got one heck of schedule there...good luck with the workout. Chaatrik mate....you are right. I used both the machines and simple free weights. when you are using machines, it is kind of easier...cause you don't think of balance....you just grab the thing and start working on it. but with free weights, you have think of having the correct balance, doing it correctly. a simple advice to everyone... if you are working on weights: when we use weights, there are basically two things...first you take the weight up and then you go down with it. when you are pulling it up (or down..it depends on the exers.), do it fastly. i mean give whatever you have got...and your goal is to bring the weights up smoothly, firmly up...not so slow. but when you have got it up...you have to go back to the original position....that you need to do slowly, also soft and firm....so you feel the muscles opening up and getting stronger. continue with this activity in series.

IT IS URGENT!

Mkhalsa Ji, it doesn't really matter if he is an ex-militant. or if he is not from some particular group....he was the head of KCF. and when he is telling that his group killed innocent people, that has to be true. i don't see any logic that he should lie there....ever if he got money or anything from india to say that. if it was just tribune saying something, i would understand, but he is quoted saying this...that is his words.

That is a shocking report....but it looks like an honest opinion to me. We can't just gloryify Kharkoos without knowing that also innocent people were killed! It wouldn't be right....it is not the way of a Khalsa Warrior! The above article highlights something most Khalistani groups say went wrong in the struggle....they trusted ISI-Pakistan, but at the end...it was the Butto govrn. which handed the Kharkoos to India (as per the claims i have heard from some Pakistanis). If we want a homeland...the fight should be our own...we can't trust others. my opinion. all others have their own interests in the field, and in the end...that will get back to us. Coming back to the original article....the problem with plane hijacks is that humans are used as shields. In the case of Sikh hijackers, Dr. Harjinder Singh Dilgeer has written a book. They didn't use weapons to hijack...just fake bombs.

Thanks for the post. Mkhalsa! It makes sense..

I am going to start a kind of special topic.....it is related to what happened in russia today. The thing is: i was thinking....in the 80s and 90s...we all know that indian authorities killed thousands of sikhs. and we also know that kharkoos fought for independence. but it is also true that there were sikhs who hijacked planes, who robbed banks, killed innocent people...all for Khalistan. It is right that by hijacking planes, they got the interational attentiob, by robbing banks...got the money from india.....BUT nothing can justify killing innocent people. i don't mean Sukha-Jinda finishing Vaidya and Beanta etc...i mean school children as the ones who were killed in russia today. NOTHING CAN JUSTIFY A SUCH ACT! I know that most people will say that they were not Khalistanis or true Sikhs, but that doesn't matter...it doesn't matter if they weren't from this jatha or that. i am aware of kalleh kache wale, and they were terrorist cops...not Khalistanis. BUT the Kharkoos i am talking about, they were common Khalistanis, from Dal Khalsa, KCF, etc. they hijacked planes....also some killed innocent in shouting and engagement with police, or families of policemen. that is not right! I just like to say...i don't support that kind of "khalistani freedom". If someone is going to do something for Sikh Nation: DO IT IN THE RIGHT WAY! be active, be educated, be active in politics, use your right to vote and work within the ethical framework. hijacking planes doesn't help...nor does killing innocent people....remember Waheguru is everywhere....you mustn't hate others. that is like hating Waheguru....would you do that?

Badal is really messed up... http://www.tribuneindia.com/2004/20040902/...2/punjab1.htm#2 But Giani Puran Singh Ji, alongwith Sangat's help....carried Sri Guru Granth Sahib all the way to Gurdwara Ramsar Sahib!

:wub: Only Punjabis can make something like that... :TH: They say this thing has to do with the food we eat.....

i am missing Khalistani.

Great News Jio! Just for a note...now it is 'fact' that there are 1-2 million Sikhs in Pakistan. 25% baptised Sikhs of that is about 250-500 000.

BUT WHO WANTS PUNJABI SOFTWAREZ?? (come on...this may be your last chance)

Singh, I have got Persian and Sanskrit grammars and software, also Arabic. We need to figure out how to share. for Braj Bhakya or Braj Bhasha, i am afraid no genuine software is available. It is close to "dialects" of Hindi langauge, so learning advanced Hindi can help. But i have access to couple of books on Braj grammar...i have to scan them to share. I haven't read them myself yet either. The problem is the are in devanagri script, and written in difficult Hindi, so understanding the grammar of Braj wouldn't be a piece of cake.

keri pasha/boli sikhni tusi?

Being a Khalsa shouldn't mean you neglect Punjabi! Nor should you force it on someone...if someone is a Khalsa from outside Punjab...who is forcing them to speak Punjabi. just learn Gurmukhi enough to read Gurbani. They can learn there own local languages....hindi, gujarati, tamil whatever... Guru Sahib wanted us to learn as much as possible...why not start at what is "ours" .now i am talking to punjabi sikhs, if non-punjabis are reading, they can replace ours as yours. Once you are done with Punjabi, start on other languages. (if someone is a language-geek and want to learn new languages, i may be able to share language learning software)